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  • Comparing some 5.7x28 and .22wmr ammo using the FN PS90 and Keltec CMR30. FN 195LF, Federal Speer TNT, and Armscor ammo Which one did the best?
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  • @hoosierplowboy5299
    @hoosierplowboy5299 Pƙed rokem +43

    Good comparison, Tools. Have had a soft spot in my heart for the .22 Magnum ever since I rolled a running groundhog at 60 yards some 50 years ago... great little round...

  • @jeloughman427
    @jeloughman427 Pƙed rokem +14

    The 30 grain Federal Speer TNT is a varmint round. It did exactly what it's supposed to do.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +5

      Good to know.😎👍

    • @jeloughman427
      @jeloughman427 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@ToolsandTargets 22 mag is my favorite caliber and that Speer TNT is my favorite round. The fireball out of my PMR-30 and Walther WMP shooting them is a whole lot of fun 😁

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +3

      @@jeloughman427 They went off like a grenade from this CMR!

    • @khaliljefferson9191
      @khaliljefferson9191 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

      Tnt went inuyasia... ..

    • @sheltonnielsen7277
      @sheltonnielsen7277 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

      ​@jeloughman427 how does your parents 30 do loading these?

  • @truthhurts7836
    @truthhurts7836 Pƙed rokem +63

    I know now that I don't want a 5.7 for the price of the guns and the ammo. I'll stick with my 22 magnums as well. Great video as usual, keep them coming 👍.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +3

      Thank you sir.

    • @salextodd2
      @salextodd2 Pƙed rokem +3

      I agree with the sentiment that “
 I don’t want a 5.7 for the price
” Unfortunately, my revelation has been delivered after acquiring two of them.
      That being said: Tools, do you foresee a difference in results if the ‘Tool of choice’ was a CMMG Banshee chambered in such a caliber - or just more of the same for more money???

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +3

      @@salextodd2 I imagine you're lookin at the same results.

    • @summers9911
      @summers9911 Pƙed rokem +3

      I have the ruger 57,ruger lc,keltec p50,psa rock57x2(optics & non optics). Cmmg 300mk 57 upper. Something about that 5.7x28 round,been in love with it since i discovered it a few years back. I know that ammo is pricey atm but the more manufacturers that make more firearms that use this round,the more the price should drop. I think this round is a good home defense round due to the penetration not being so deep & the speed of it is more than enough to do the damage needed to stop an intruder or small game. I like the 22 magnum as well & own a few firearms that use em,but what i like about the 5.7 round is the ability to carry a massive ammount vs 9mm or 556/223. As with any ammo,all can get the job done if the placement is right. I will be taking all my 5.7,s to the range here soon to sight them in(after i green dot bore sight em) then i will be doing some small game hunting with my ruger precision 22mag this year. But my 5.7's rock 57 has become my EDC. This pistol is just B.A. & the low recoil def helped my accuracy a lot. Stay safe,great video & yall be safe out there.

  • @disgustedvet9528
    @disgustedvet9528 Pƙed rokem +45

    i'm sticking with my 22 mag .

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +4

      😎👍

    • @zanegardner6488
      @zanegardner6488 Pƙed rokem

      Why?

    • @disgustedvet9528
      @disgustedvet9528 Pƙed rokem +10

      @@zanegardner6488 Because i already own a rifle ( old Marlin ) and a new 8 shot Taurus revolver in 22 mag. See no reason to throw money at new toys just for kicks.

    • @zanegardner6488
      @zanegardner6488 Pƙed rokem +3

      @@disgustedvet9528 id rather have a 5.7 over a 22 mag if i can pick my caliber

    • @sizedjoker2353
      @sizedjoker2353 Pƙed rokem +7

      Same here it's cheaper 5.7 is just to expensive for me to care about getting it or a firearm chambered in it

  • @Donald_R_DeCicco
    @Donald_R_DeCicco Pƙed rokem +9

    That is wild. I definitely did not expect the Armscor to do so well up against the 5.7 in penetration. The 5.7 is a beast but i gotta give it up to the ole 22wmr. Great test sir

  • @randalbigirvirvin1153
    @randalbigirvirvin1153 Pƙed rokem +13

    That was a really cool comparison. The TNT definitely lived up to it's name. That was explosive for sure.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +4

      Yes it was.đŸ’„đŸ˜ŽđŸ’„

    • @michaell397
      @michaell397 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@ToolsandTargets Now you know just why it is called TNT! It is a fantastic varmint round and within reaonable ranges, glances and damage to property on the farm is very unlikely as they come apart on impact.

  • @kevinchavey8289
    @kevinchavey8289 Pƙed rokem +11

    Very interesting vid! I love and own both calibers, but the .22 WMR is my personal favorite. You work hard for this channel and its appreciated. Keep em goin.....

  • @bobg.8954
    @bobg.8954 Pƙed rokem +7

    Brother, you do for sure go way above and beyond for your viewers, great job and really good video! Thanks T

  • @thereindeertherabbitthebat592

    That was a really cool video, thanks a bunch for doing this one 👍 Really appreciate it.

  • @keithtate1241
    @keithtate1241 Pƙed rokem +4

    I like the performance of Armscor ammo. Thanks for the Jelly test and have a great weekend.

  • @scarifrougeone7225
    @scarifrougeone7225 Pƙed rokem +2

    Yo Tools great test and commentary bud. Thanks for adding the Armscore in that was great. I was wondering about those 5.7X28mm and now I know. The Speer is it’s name đŸ’„TNTđŸ’„explode on impact pretty much thanks for that test. Overall the .22WMR all day long cost and variety of ammo is huge, plus the penetration and expansion. Really enjoyed this one bro! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐5 Star! Stay well, be safe.

  • @GlennCJudah
    @GlennCJudah Pƙed rokem +2

    Thanks for this test! I was thinking about the new LC carbine in 5.7. Now I am leaning toward the Keltec CMR 30. !

  • @electrochubb
    @electrochubb Pƙed rokem +4

    The Armscor mags are great performers. Thanks for your detailed test sir.

  • @jeffray6197
    @jeffray6197 Pƙed rokem +7

    Great test video, as always! Looks like beautiful weather to be out at the range!!
    Stay safe brother!!đŸ‡șđŸ‡žđŸ‘đŸ»

  • @poisonPpaully
    @poisonPpaully Pƙed rokem +6

    Those Speer are custom made for pistols as self defense rounds if I remember correctly designed to open up at slower velocity I think the extra speed through the carbine just tore it apart

    • @AK-ky3ou
      @AK-ky3ou Pƙed rokem +4

      No they’re not. Not the tnt bullet

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +3

      These are different from the Gold Dots. I noticed later that there was a squirrel on the box, so maybe they're varmint rounds meant to fragment like this.đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž

    • @haagy13
      @haagy13 Pƙed rokem +1

      The TNT bullet is a varmint bullet with very thin jacket designed to come apart on impact. The bullet performed exactly as designed.

    • @poisonPpaully
      @poisonPpaully Pƙed rokem +1

      @@ToolsandTargets your right I saw Speer and my brain went straight to the gold dot I stand corrected

  • @TheHillbilly1979
    @TheHillbilly1979 Pƙed rokem +2

    Really enjoyed this video, I’m glad you threw in the Armscor ammo because that TNT was pretty disappointing lol
 I’ve always been fascinated with 22mag from rifle or handgun , thank you for another great video I always enjoy your content.

  • @Papaw58
    @Papaw58 Pƙed rokem +3

    The Speer TNT is designed to " Explode " on Impact, so it performed as it's supposed to. Great Video

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      Good to know. Thank you sir.😎👍

    • @Papaw58
      @Papaw58 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@ToolsandTargets Love your Channel and all the Great Videos you put out. I know there's lots of work that goes into it, and We appreciate it. Thanks Tools!!!!

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      @@Papaw58 Appreciate that!

  • @johnnyv.223
    @johnnyv.223 Pƙed rokem +2

    SUPER comparison, Tools. The Armscore looks to be the most effective of the three rounds you tested today. I'm wondering if the TNT might do better than in the carbine in the shorter bbl pistol that Keltec makes. Thank you for a real good one today!

  • @BulletsB4Guns_2A
    @BulletsB4Guns_2A Pƙed rokem

    Good video Tools. Thanks for all you do brother..

  • @MidwesternOutdoors01
    @MidwesternOutdoors01 Pƙed rokem

    I like how you added the energy #’s đŸ‘ŒđŸ»đŸ”„

  • @Kaelland
    @Kaelland Pƙed rokem +3

    From Federal's website for the Speer TNT ammo:
    "When you rely on rimfire for putting down distant varmints, reach for Federal Premium SpeerÂź TNTÂź. The bullet's thin jacket results in explosive performance on impact, and its reliable priming and propellant provide extremely consistent ballistics.
    Extreme accuracy
    Explosive expansion on impact
    Speer TNT bullet design
    Reliable priming and propellant"
    Seems to me like the idea is for it to expand reliably at longer ranges. If you're up for it, maybe try the TNT in gel at 100+ yards and see if it expands instead of fragmenting once it gets downrange a ways.
    That said, if it will fragment reliably at shorter ranges, it may be a good choice for short range pest control where overpenetration may be a concern.

  • @robertseafield5810
    @robertseafield5810 Pƙed rokem +3

    Great video! Glad you are trying the carbines. Please do some more in pistol calibers.
    The Speer TNT bullets are for rapid expansion in varmints.

  • @jeffreyrobertson7652
    @jeffreyrobertson7652 Pƙed rokem +2

    Another good test video Tools enjoy watching them Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong đŸ‡ș🇾

  • @theturkeysopinion
    @theturkeysopinion Pƙed rokem +6

    Fantastic test! I just did a video on this round and this is the exact test I wanted to see.
    Great job.🩃👊👍

  • @just_hobbies
    @just_hobbies Pƙed rokem

    Excellent video. Very precise.

  • @AK-ky3ou
    @AK-ky3ou Pƙed rokem +2

    The tnt will expand from a naa mini mag through heavy clothing. Won’t penetrate very far through anything.

  • @jamespahlsson8133
    @jamespahlsson8133 Pƙed rokem

    Love that 5.7x28, thank you for doing this video.
    You are the best.
    Jim

  • @Dwayne7834
    @Dwayne7834 Pƙed rokem

    Good gel test. The tnt did good for shooting squirrels or rabbits. The others had good penetration for sure. Thanks for the video.

  • @buzsalmon
    @buzsalmon Pƙed rokem +1

    Good one Tools! All tricky for me!

  • @jonathanhallenbeck1726
    @jonathanhallenbeck1726 Pƙed rokem

    I really like this comparison. Fantastic job. I have been looking at that new Ruger LC carbine for my wife as she is recoil sensitive and at 4 ft 11 she needs a youth stock or adjustable. Now i believe I'll look for a similar setup in .22 magnum.

  • @irafowlerjr.7492
    @irafowlerjr.7492 Pƙed rokem

    Helpful info, thanks

  • @terrell48
    @terrell48 Pƙed rokem +5

    I’m afraid my choice would be the 22 mag and an alternative is a 22 Hornet, never had any desire for a 5.7x28, a good comparison might be the 22 tcm, I believe Rock Island makes a carbine in that caliber

  • @ronaldperkins4222
    @ronaldperkins4222 Pƙed rokem +1

    I've loaded lots of Speer TNT in .222, .223, .22-250, & 6mm Rem & can verify they explode. Devastating on groundhogs & coyotes. Very interesting test.

  • @jeffreybean5363
    @jeffreybean5363 Pƙed rokem

    That was a very unique test Tools..loved it..👍đŸ‡ș🇾👍đŸ‡ș🇾

  • @keithrichardson4333
    @keithrichardson4333 Pƙed rokem +2

    Would be cool to see the american eagle fmjs or FN 198s tested next to these. Maybe the gold dots if they can be found and the price isn't obnoxious. I did expect a little more from the 5.7, but really fast lightweight rounds do tend to decelerate faster than heavier rounds so I really shouldn't be surprised. Excellent test.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      Thank you sir. I almost used the American Eagle instead of the 195LF's. I tested the 198 against the 195 here 😎👍 czcams.com/video/TbSkgahZEOQ/video.html

    • @keithrichardson4333
      @keithrichardson4333 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@ToolsandTargets thanks for the link. I didnt know you already tested these

  • @YellowHammer26
    @YellowHammer26 Pƙed rokem +4

    I believe the Speer round is a small game load and honestly I don’t know anything about the 5.7 round except if it’s supposed to expand and didn’t with that velocity then I don’t think it will ever expand. The armscor round performed really well with good expansion and penetration plus it was a good bit heavier. Thanks Tools 👍👍

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      😎👍

    • @Logan-py8we
      @Logan-py8we Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +1

      the federal TNT isnt a small game round its a "varmint" round. the expansion on the armscor was pathetic given the distance the test was done at. that thing should have had much greater expansion than that.

  • @chazzy1237
    @chazzy1237 Pƙed rokem +5

    Love the 57 ammo! I have the Ruger 57 and it shoots really nice! Just expensive to shoot

  • @Bob-lq9ys
    @Bob-lq9ys Pƙed rokem +2

    Armscore for the win , as the old saying goes > the proof is in the pudding

  • @rex116
    @rex116 Pƙed rokem

    Awesome video like always thank you very much
    I have a Winchester 9422M in .22Mag and I like it .

  • @gort4016
    @gort4016 Pƙed rokem +4

    I would love to see how the FN 5.7 X 28 40-GRAIN V-MAX (SS107) would do in this test vs. CCI Maxi-Mag 40 gr HP. I don't care much for the featherweight (27 or 30 grain) rounds in either 5.7x28 or the .22WMR.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      I almost used the VMax 5.7 against a VMax .22 Mag, but I figured they would both just fragment to pieces.

  • @LuckyDog350X
    @LuckyDog350X Pƙed rokem +8

    I was not very impressed with any of them to be honest, especially the 5.7 don't get me wrong that PS90 is a very cool tool I just can't bring myself to get one considering the price of the tool and ammo. I don't really see it as practical for anything other than range fun. Have a good one brother see you on the next one.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +3

      Agreed. I just had to have it.😆😆😆

  • @briarsandbantams
    @briarsandbantams Pƙed rokem +1

    .22 WMR remains a fine choice for general mucking around the family property and woods scrounging. Varminting with lighter projectiles or small game hunting with less explosive rounds. I keep hoping 5.7 will turn into a modern replacement for .22 Hornet, but its just not seeming all that versatile with the ammo available.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem

      Yeah, they're too busy cashing in on mediocre ammo for it.

  • @chretired
    @chretired Pƙed rokem +9

    Now that was a really interesting test Tools. I sure didn't expect those results. From all the hype about the 5.7 I sure expected much better results from that round. I will say most of the test I've seen of the 5.7 have all been shorter barreled handguns. The TNT sure did "explode" on impact. Would be interesting to see if it's any good against a real life target, most likely only for some small game. I wonder what it would have done vs. some kind of barrier, be it clothing or otherwise. Now the other 22 mag seems to have performed very good. With cost of both equipment and ammo the 22 mag is my choice over that 5.7.
    Be safe and ever vigilant.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      Appreciate ya, brother!😎👊

    • @a1racer441
      @a1racer441 Pƙed rokem

      The 5.7 has like 3 times the impact power of the 22mag plus you will get longer distances with greater power then the 22. Just be ready to pay for the 5.7 premium.

    • @donrichter3523
      @donrichter3523 Pƙed rokem +1

      Well, no, it doesn’t. Tools calculated the energy. On top of that, the bullet action was pathetic. If it can’t penetrate 12 inches of clear gel, it sure as hell won’t in 10% or in actual bodies. The round is pure hype. Even 198LF will only penetrate a few inches in gel after going thru a lvl2 panel. Sure it penetrates, but does little after doing so.

    • @snowballsvlogs621
      @snowballsvlogs621 Pƙed rokem

      Don’t forget the round is designed to tumble as well, not designed just for penetration. The wound tract of the 5.7 is devastating and is designed as a military round.

    • @KCTPgaming
      @KCTPgaming Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

      @@a1racer441you do know they are like super identical ballistically right? Speed , weight , size.. 5.7 is just center fire, and has better ballistic coefficients. 22 mag is 2200fps with a 30 grain bullet, the 5.7 he was using clocked around 2300 with a 27 grain bullet
 lol where do you get 3 times the power? They are given out the about the same energy with these velocities lol. I swear people think 5.7 is a fucking 5.56 lol

  • @yuvgotubekidding
    @yuvgotubekidding Pƙed rokem +6

    Penny for penny the .22 wmr is smarter. I guess the 5.7 is kind of a designer caliber. As always good test. 👍👊đŸ‡ș🇾

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +2

      Have to agree.😎👍

    • @marcocastillo368
      @marcocastillo368 Pƙed rokem

      Im inclined to agree especially when the new Extreme Long Range ELR ammo is available here in the US.

  • @RL-RL
    @RL-RL Pƙed rokem +3

    That was a great idea adding the Armscor, or this test would be a bust. Also, I know a way to save you some money on that 5.7 ammo and that tool...

  • @noahmercy-mann4323
    @noahmercy-mann4323 Pƙed rokem +1

    The 22WMR TNTs are great on prairie poodles and European starlings. Very low chance of ricochets or pass-throughs, and they drop the vermin decisively. Not great on critters much larger than jackrabbits, though. I like the fact that the 5.7 is more reliable than the rimfire and can be reloaded, but not enough to get one, at least not in a carbine/rifle.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      Yeah, I only got it because I wanted the PS90 specifically.

  • @trustnot9
    @trustnot9 Pƙed rokem +1

    GREAT TEST, AWESOME TO WATCH.....

  • @wasntmeXYZ
    @wasntmeXYZ Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    Those Speer TNTs might work better out of a pistol and a tad lower velocity. You should try those in the PMR30.
    The 5.7 did exactly what it was designed to do. Tumble and yaw while dumping the energy into the target creating a very nasty wound but I’d like to see a bit more penetration out of those.
    A very good video comparison and proof that the 22 mag isn’t such a bad choice for self defense it’s only draw back is the rimfire which isn’t always as reliable as a center fire.

  • @Toxie2725
    @Toxie2725 Pƙed 10 dny

    5.7 had adequate penetration for is use and a better wound cavity, but for more money. I've got both...so I'll keep using both!

  • @Cr0wmagnum
    @Cr0wmagnum Pƙed rokem

    I'm not sure what would be "even" between them both. Perhaps 40gr Federal ball in 5.7x28 from a Ruger57 vs. Win 45gr fmj from a 16-22 inch bbl? Love both rounds just in different platforms. Never had a use for .22mag in a handgun. Great vid none the less.

  • @jmichaelcarbonniere9549
    @jmichaelcarbonniere9549 Pƙed rokem +2

    Good test, Tools! The TNT is a varmint round so perhaps not the best comparison? I've never been a big fan of the 5.7 x 28 while I'm a huge fan of the .22 Mag! I think that with the proper ammo the Mag will more or less hang in there with the 5.7. The 5.7 has pretty much priced itself out my range while the .22 mag hasn't gone up quite as much as most other rounds. I'll just stick with the 22 mag until I suddenly get rich or a 5.7 falls out the sky and lands in my lap!
    Cheers,
    crkckr

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      Thank you sir. The big squirrel on the box should have clued me in.😂😂😂

  • @texastomsshavingtips6359
    @texastomsshavingtips6359 Pƙed rokem +1

    The TNT(ℱ) bullets works like the VARMINT GRENADE(ℱ) bullets, they are pelt saving varmint bullets!! I would use that Armscor ammo for small game hunting!!

  • @joemorganeatmyshortschannel

    I think the 5.7 we get isn't quite as cool as the red box that's ss109 but 22 mag you can afford

  • @g54b95
    @g54b95 Pƙed rokem

    Great test! I was surprised by how well the Armscor performed. Not sure if you've done it already, but have you tested various styles of .22wmr against eachother in the gel? I picked up some .22wmr during Ammogeddon for my Heritage Rough Rider, Speer Gold Dot Personal Protection Short Barrel 40gr GDHP-SB. Curious how this compares against other 'non-short barrel' .22wmr. What the hell, if you have one, how about in the 16" bbl Rough Rider? That's the gun I have chambered for .22wmr so far...I bought what I could for it when I saw some, and it happened to be the short barrel defense ammo. Love your work, man.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      Thank you sir. I have done quite a few different .22 mag tests from the different barrel length Rough Riders.😎👍

    • @g54b95
      @g54b95 Pƙed rokem

      @@ToolsandTargets I just watched your .22LR / .22WMR with the 6" Heritage Rough Rider...will check out the others, too! Thanks!

  • @randyweber2275
    @randyweber2275 Pƙed rokem +3

    I knew those 5.7 sleek looking bullets were a gimmick....love the 22 mag, always have....a rough rider is a great plinking revolver, and with the 22 mag cylinder gives the thump a raccoon/opposum he needs sometimes.

  • @TommyboyGTP
    @TommyboyGTP Pƙed rokem

    Speer's TNT line is a varmint/predator rapid expanding round so it did exactly as it was designed.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +2

      You would think the squirrel on the box would have clued me in.😂😂😂

  • @ironmikehallowween
    @ironmikehallowween Pƙed rokem +1

    I love 22 magnums. I use it quite a bit. I am interested in those 5.7s though and hope they start making them in pocket pistols. To me it’s kinda like a 22 magnum center fire. I love my 22 Hornet more than the 5.7, but There doesn’t seem to be much interest in making small handguns utilizing that superior cartridge.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem

      Yeah, maybe too much pressure to make it small enough and cost effective.

    • @bryantbutlermf
      @bryantbutlermf Pƙed rokem

      The hornet is what I’m looking for I have the mag now I’m in love with the thing

  • @timshelley8635
    @timshelley8635 Pƙed rokem

    Great video! Wonder what the CCI Maxi Mag would have done? It's my go to in 22 mag.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem

      I would have brought something like that instead if I had realized these TNT were varmint rounds.😆😆😆

  • @ronaldbarnes8302
    @ronaldbarnes8302 Pƙed rokem +6

    The only advantage the 5.7 has is being a center fire. The 22WMR TNT would be an awesome groundhog round. The 40 grainer definitely impressed. Thanks for sharing Tools!

  • @jarrettmoore6237
    @jarrettmoore6237 Pƙed rokem

    All the "TNT" labeled rimfire rounds I've shot in 17hmr and 22mag has done exactly what you experienced.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      Yeah, apparently I didn't realize they're varmint rounds. The squirrel on the package should have been a clue.😆😆😆

  • @dt3852
    @dt3852 Pƙed rokem

    Great testing

  • @ogbobbye
    @ogbobbye Pƙed rokem

    I have the Ruger 57 bought it just for fun but with the 5.7 x 28 ammo prices I don't get to have much fun. I am thinking about selling the 57 and picking up one of the Rock Island Armory M1911 A1 XT 22 magnums. after seeing the Armscor performance I may do more than just think about selling my 57. at the very least I will be able to afford to shoot the XT 22 magnum more.

  • @rontate7719
    @rontate7719 Pƙed rokem

    Definitive,and decisive,
    A great deal of info .
    And
    I am of the 5seven Persuasion...
    Thanks
    9.24.2022

  • @l.a.3887
    @l.a.3887 Pƙed rokem

    Great testing 👌

  • @artkoinis607
    @artkoinis607 Pƙed rokem +2

    5.7×28 does it perform against body armor the same way as people say? Like the demo 😎

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      I haven't personally tested it. All I have is hard armor.

  • @Mr_New_Vegas_685
    @Mr_New_Vegas_685 Pƙed rokem +1

    The only reason I have 5.7x28 is because I love my ps90 sbr. It’s a very niche caliber. Shooting it is always fun so that’s the main reason for mine.

  • @billdye3530
    @billdye3530 Pƙed rokem +1

    I'm picking a 380 with Ranger T ammo. 😆 TNT is designed to blow up quick that's why hunters use it on fur bearing animals. It doesn't blow a hole thru both sides of a hide. Armscor did pretty good. Very good comparison. Thanks. 👍 👍 đŸ‡ș🇾

  • @Nutty.357
    @Nutty.357 Pƙed rokem +1

    The Armscor looks pretty good to me! Maintained its weight, good expansion, ample speed even though slowest, good penetration, cheap(er)! lol! Did good! Have a good one!

  • @MrSumGuns
    @MrSumGuns Pƙed rokem

    Center fire is more reliable than rimfire. Do a test on the 40grain 5.7x28 and decide after those results. Awesome video thanks!

  • @calangel
    @calangel Pƙed rokem

    Yes, the Speer TNT is designed to do that. It is a bonded bullet, made exactly like a gold dot, but the jacket is much thinner.
    With your demonstration, it's obvious that factory 5.7x28mm doesn't really make sense vs factory 22WMR, just about regardless of the barrel length. My PMR 30 never has issues anymore. As reliable as a center fire.

  • @salextodd2
    @salextodd2 Pƙed rokem

    That was a very much unexpected result in the jelly. I’m wondering if that SPEER round wasn’t an anomaly - seeing the differences in velocities. Did you try running another round of that ammo to see if the same results o occurred?
    Still not sure I would reach for my PS-90 for anything more than target practice/plinking (especially given how much FN is charging for the 5.7 rounds)!
    Thanks for the eye-opening, jaw-dropping, most educational jelly test, Tools!!

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +2

      Thank you sir. Apparently, they are varmint rounds designed to explode like that. Didn't realize that until later.😆😆😆

    • @salextodd2
      @salextodd2 Pƙed rokem

      @@ToolsandTargets That’s good to know. I’d hate to be the one that would have to pick the metal out of any game taken down by a SPEER .22MAG that is meant to be eaten. 😂
      Thanks again, Brother-from-another-Mother!!

  • @marcocastillo368
    @marcocastillo368 Pƙed rokem

    Once the new ELR rounds are available in the US I would like to see this comparison again. Unless of course someone can get you some of that new ammo! I think it'll be close!

  • @donrichter3523
    @donrichter3523 Pƙed rokem

    I think you will find the most consistent 22 mag is the Speer Gold Dot, with Hornady Critical Defense in 2nd place.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem

      I've tried both of those. Great stuff.😎👍

  • @steveshannon6497
    @steveshannon6497 Pƙed rokem

    There supposed to fragment. I’m pretty sure the tnt is billed as a varmint round. Another great video!!

  • @jimwest1967
    @jimwest1967 Pƙed rokem

    I just read on the federal website that that tnt round has a very thin jacket for explosive performance.

  • @sakfpv8444
    @sakfpv8444 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    Im sticking with good old 9mm. Cheaper, its been perfecred for a century, and the tool selection is amazing. 22 mag was going to be my first pistol a couple years ago, but...rimfire is just (by design) less reliable. It could be 1 out of 200 rounds, but ive got 4000 through my canik and not a single issue. I like them odds.

  • @rjw261984
    @rjw261984 Pƙed rokem

    Good test as always! đŸ‡ș🇾

  • @DisgustedGenXr
    @DisgustedGenXr Pƙed rokem

    Cleeter sprint boat killer!!
    My chrono was giving me issues whenever a cloud would come by. I turned on the LED bars and it was fine. Might be the shadow that is giving you the errors

  • @earlmorrison8163
    @earlmorrison8163 Pƙed rokem +1

    Space gun day !! LOL !! Thanks for the video

  • @billsiegloff2150
    @billsiegloff2150 Pƙed rokem

    All Speer TNT projectiles are extremely thin jackets designed for rapid expansion. They have warnings not to load to extreme velocities like 22-250s or 243s

  • @davidjernigan8161
    @davidjernigan8161 Pƙed rokem

    The TNT rounds are designed as a varmint round. So, it worked as designed. There used to be a CCI TNT 22 mag round. Don't know if it is the same round as the federal. I would stick with the 22 mag since I can buy a lot of ammo for the difference in price between the PS90 and a 22 mag rifle.

  • @peterscott225
    @peterscott225 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    I'm impressed with the budget priced armscor.

  • @jaxturner7288
    @jaxturner7288 Pƙed rokem +1

    Looks beautiful out there right now.
    Not long till my favorite hat will be back on your head again though. 👍

  • @1madmaxx80
    @1madmaxx80 Pƙed rokem

    5.7 is impossible to find in my part of Chinada. I'd like to see more mfgs using the calibre. That Armscor looks real nice! Gonna have to keep my eye open for it locally
    👍👍

  • @arby2348
    @arby2348 Pƙed rokem

    It would be interesting to see the 5.7x28mm Speer Gold Dot performance.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem

      I need to see if you can get that stuff these days. A year or so ago, it was impossible to find in stock.

  • @randlerichardson5826
    @randlerichardson5826 Pƙed rokem

    About the only bullets I’ve used and loaded over the years Tools that are the closest to the grain of the bullet is Speer bullets. I’m a Nosler fan but there can be as much as 1-2 grains either lighter or heavier than they say on the box of the bullet being used. Most Speer bullets are within a 1/10tn give or take being the same stated weight. I’m like you buddy I didn’t expect that bullet to come unglued like that. Be safe and GOD BLESS y’all buddy Amen 🙏

  • @josephpacchetti5997
    @josephpacchetti5997 Pƙed rokem

    I don't have much 411 on the 5.7, judging by the velocity and non-expanding projectile, I was expecting a complete pass through, also the tip of the 5.7 looks like a hollow point, It could be that it has a better ballistic coefficient than a spire point solid, I have some CCI TNT 30gr that is claiming 2,200 fps and states that it has an explosive impact on varmints, but that is probably from a 24" barrel, also have some CCI 40gr pointed soft-point claiming 1,875, And I've not fired any of them, thank you for this interesting video, Stay Safe My Friend. 👍

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem

      Thank you sir. 5.7 is a very niche round without a doubt.

  • @timriley2503
    @timriley2503 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    I like the TNT. Great energy dump.

  • @semichiganandy2127
    @semichiganandy2127 Pƙed rokem

    The Armscor looked really good. I'll pass on a new gun with new ammo (5.7) and pick up some Armscor.

  • @KD-lb9bg
    @KD-lb9bg Pƙed rokem

    The 22 Magnum White box equivalent for the win 🏆, Lol.
    Thanks for another fine Jelly Time test.

  • @georgezeigler3858
    @georgezeigler3858 Pƙed rokem

    Good video I will stick with my 22mag also like the looks of the new r
    uger 5.7 ammo still expensive

  • @chrisgabbert658
    @chrisgabbert658 Pƙed rokem +1

    👍😊🎯 the tnt acted like a 17 hmr . đŸ’„

  • @thealarmclock9307
    @thealarmclock9307 Pƙed rokem

    I died when you said aight y'all, it's " bUt tHaT aInT tHe rIgHt aMmO jelly time

  • @VT2k6
    @VT2k6 Pƙed rokem

    It would be interesting if you really ran the test with R&R Weapon System 5.7x28 rounds, which are actual defense rounds and are getting closer to 525 foot pounds of energy out of PS90 barrel. The FN cilivan offerings of the 5.7 are really neutered down in performance in comparison to what FN offers police and the military, the R&R 5.7 ammo is a lot closer to Law enforcement and military capabilities. I also believe that Vanguard Outfitters offers a similar round called the Black Dragon Fang...again although the FN ammo is way easier to find its far from the best in what is out for 5.7 defense ammo.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      Pretty sure I basically explained this exact point in the video. What you see here is what the majority of people who buy these guns can expect.

  • @charlesmorgan1879
    @charlesmorgan1879 Pƙed rokem

    Baby bean gelly time ! If I were to get one of those would be 22wmr , armscor did well. Thanks Gellmiester T&T

  • @tonkatank045
    @tonkatank045 Pƙed 13 dny

    its crazy how small that 5.7 bullpup is! thing looks like a childs first rifle in your hands lol

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed 13 dny

      Yeah, it would really look like a toy with me holding it if it was the SMG version.😆

  • @jeremymcauliff8485
    @jeremymcauliff8485 Pƙed rokem

    If you get a chance, run the Armscor ammo through your Walther WMP.

  • @rwdchannel2901
    @rwdchannel2901 Pƙed rokem +1

    I would think the CCI with Hornady V-Max .22 magnum would be really similar to the 5.7x28 because it has 2300FPS.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  Pƙed rokem +1

      Yeah, I figured it would just fragment to pieces also but maybe I'll test the V Max from both of them.

  • @brian770
    @brian770 Pƙed rokem

    the cci maxi-mags TNT do the same thing, just like they are supposed to, its all i use in my pmr-30, epic stopping power, and would not want to get hit by it.

  • @robertwess4556
    @robertwess4556 Pƙed rokem

    Cool ammo test