Finnish Baseball with Susie and Colin
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2014
- We bring some friends from the US to a Finnish baseball game in Jyvaskyla. Finnish Baseball is NOT like American baseball. We were aware of this going in, but still didn't look up the rules beforehand. So, we attempt to figure out what's going on here. I apologize for our ignorance. It's quite an interesting sport, and I want to learn, and perhaps play, this local pastime.
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The colored "turkey" is a signal held by the coach. The team has certain signals for different purposes. For example, they might've one when, for example, red is showing, then you run to the next base, or another one would be that when some other color is showing only the "head" (the runner gotten farest on the field) is running to the next base. They are usually more complex than just a colour but easier this way. No-one except the team knows the signal, but the opposing team might have a designated person for trying to make out the opponent's signal.
I love Pesis. I always catch games when I am in Finland
Pesapallo is much faster than baseball, I`m not saying its better than the American versión ,but it`s a much better option than Softball and 10 times better than slowpich softball, because in slowpich softball all they do is try to hit homeruns with no other strategy in the game..Pesapallo is a much more intelligent game were the batter have to master the control and direction of the ball to try and fool the outfielders. making them move there ass during the game! with way more tactics, and this is coming from an ex cricket Fastpich softball and baseball player from Australia,,Pesapallo does exist in Australia , but in a small level,..but at least we have it!
nice concise description, and comparison with baseball too.
I really think it should done some anglophone as yourself, who has played both pesäpallo and baseball him-/herself. And doesn't hurt to have played cricket etc. also.
@@timomastosalo Thanks! I am a guy! I live in Spain for many years now.(half Spanish and Australian) Angel is a boys name in Spain, Love Finland and was in Tampere for some time.Lovely country . Want to come back sometime for a visit.Also been to the U.S. where my Pesapallo glove got stolen in Kansas . Oh well,these things happen!!
Thats why softball tournaments usually have homerun limits of around 2, after that its an out.
@@ryanmerriam3255 Yes. Slow picthsoftball has variable rules in different competitions.
Basic difference is that finnish baseball has much faster tempo and a lot more strategic element in it. It's much easier to hit the ball, but there are more restrictions for where you can hit (If the ball hits ground inside playing field and then goes out..it's fair hit). So it's not just about swinging as hard as you can and hoping that the ball would go far. Hitter has to think about WHERE he wants that ball to go and HOW. Pitcher is still by far the most important player since he can make it a lot harder to get the desired hit. He can change tempo, he can have unpredictable height in his pitches and he can target unfavorable part of that pitching plate. Then he can use foul pitch (target outside the plate or have too short pitch) to confuse hitters and runners.
Top level games are rather difficult to follow for beginners..but rather satisfying when you get the hang of this game. It's relatively easy game to play for beginners..since on that level there's very little strategy involved.
I don't see the superior strategic element. You seem to be assuming that baseball players aren't trying to hit the ball in a certain way.
Steve H It's more like th tactical happens more often, because the runners are active more often. Because there's less duel between the pitcher and the batter, and more action between bases. Also, the faster tempo makes it sometimes demanding to react quickly play after play, especially when illegal hits happen, because then the runners have to return to the base they left during that play. The very next play might demand them to run fast immediately they touch the base where they returned.
The tactics and mind reading attempts happen in the messages the teams send to their team mates, especially when batting. The team leader gives messages to the runners with a 6(?) coloured fan, the 'turkey'. Sometimes the fielding team learns quickly what the colours mean, and plan B has to be implemented.
In that case softball's a much much much more """tactical""" sport than baseball lol
Doubly so for slow pitch softball. And don't get me started on kickball.
Steve H - Sorry, you sound too offensive to be really interested in this. Seems like you walk the road of the typical haters, just judging it inferior simply because of the vertical pass, and because there's a backline too. So no automatic homerun, if you hit a long monster. Alas, no use of prejudging it before getting to know it. And there needs not be a rivalry 'which is better, period'. It's possible to like both of them - they are same family, after all. I like to watch the pitches and homeruns in the American Baseball - spectacular.
You repeat the same misinterpretations people got answered years ago in this video - Angel Smith explained 3 years ago the difference between this game and Softball, or slow pitch, or how many versions there are of Baseball. He's an Australian who's played all these games, so you'd benefit of listening to him.
Slowpitch softball is still closer to Baseball than this game: You can aim for the long monster hit. Finnish baseball has stripped the batter of the weapon of a long hit, and the pitcher of the incoming fast pitch. THAT makes the game more challenging - no easy points, no easy pitching outs. Hence, more tactical game is needed. Not saying Baseball doesn't have it, this sport just needs it more, for not having the OP guns in pitching and batting.
The batter can make as long hits as he likes - just he has to get the ball to touch the ground inside the field first. And at the top level the fielders have sometimes a very tight stranglehold of the field. Some fakes and pinpoint accuracy needed to surpass them.
It's mostly solved in the running game, where you need to react fast AND smart. Like under fire in the military field. The zig-zagging running route simulates that too. The out has two stages: 'wounded' and 'dead'. A wound comes if the batters hit is caught mid air, if he makes it t the base, he's not out, just not allowed to continue as a runner. This can be avoided by getting back to the base you left, before that catch is made. Which is not always an option, your team mate might be coming there.
Just love Baseball, but don't let that make you underestimate this game. Learn more about it - before that your comments reveal how little you know about it. Best if you try it out, there are some teams in America. And any Finn Hall will find someone to show the ropes. Finns are mostly in NY, LA, Florida cities, Great Lakes (Northern Minnesota & Michigan peninsula by the Lakes).
When you don't feel like arguing a point, just put words in the other persons mouth and argue against that. The idiots guide to arguing on the internet.
"Y-y-you're j-just a hater." It's just a game, kiddo. Don't get your entire ego wrapped up in it.
If one catches the ball without the ball hitting ground, that is not automaticly out. If the batter manages to take first base before the ball get's there then the batter get's "Haava". Haava = Batter leaves field but no out. If a runner is out of base during the same then the same happens to them and they need to get to next base before the ball gets there. I enjoy American baseball more than the one we have here in Finland. Thought I have never played the American version but it's more enjoyable to watch at least.
It's the same rule that applies for all the bases. If it's a catch one can be outed from the first base too IF the ball gets there before the runner.
Joonas Pulkkinen And I said the same applies to runners too.
Game Finnishers The point was that you can be outed from first base too. In your original comment you said there's no out, so I just clarified it. If a player manages to deliver the ball to the first base before the batter, it's out no matter wheter it was a catch or not. The only situations where there's no out even if the ball is on the baseplayer before the runner are blocking (i.e. a defender blocks the path of the runner when the defender is NOT trying to catch the ball) or on "free-run" (two missed pitches if there's a runner on the field already, one missed pitch if there's not runners on the field. The free-run comes automatically to the active head of the runners, meaning the active runner gone the farthest on the field. On some occasions a referee can judge a free-run for all the runners on the field, but it's very rare.) Trust me, I've been a referee for 6 years, and still counting, myself.
Joonas Pulkkinen Aah. Took me a while to understand that you meant runners sprinting back to their starting base. Yeah I forgot that rule.
W opinion
From an American point of view I’m very intrigued. So from what I gathered a Finnish person visited America and caught a baseball game and adapted it to what I’m seeing. Saw another video of an outfielder chasing a ball into a river. So I guess the ball stays in play even if it ends up in the drink
Yes, as long as the balls first bounce is within the field its a good ball and the opposing team has to go running after it. If it bounces over a fence into the woods, too bad, youre going around the fence and search for it. Its not a home run automatically.
You can see how this came from "house rules amateur baseball", you cant just leave your only ball there and its more fun to have the keep going, adds more exitement to a "home run" .
There are over 1.400.000 that has the same ( One year ) Video as You ! Its Not yet as Popular as DARUDES Running Video at Helsinki - called SANDSTROM ! Where They Run around Helsinki - with The Rules of The Game on that BRIEFCASE ! Even Down Under at Auckland NZ -They made Their version of IT - trying to get more ATTENTION & LIKES than The ORIGINAL ?
Foul ball on third strike = batter's out, no zone for that
When there are no runners, first pitch off the plate warrants a base. When there are runners, two pitches off the plate for the same batter advance the front runner one base. The rest of the team yell out information to the runners, such as if there is a foul pitch for the pitcher to spare as a tactical move (it takes two to advance the runner, remember) and if the pitcher's gonna throw the ball out (he has to give the ball to the field after every faked pitch).
If a runner is not at his original base when the ball is caught straight from the air, he's "wounded" and has to advance to the next base. If he gets there safe, he's just removed from play but not out. The term "wounded" is a remnant from the early years (the game was developed for the post civil war white guards as physical exercise and out used to be called "dead").
Between batters the ball has to visit any other base but home.
A million times better than the US baseball ... that said, even when I scratch my balls, it's already a better sport and more interesting than US baseball. I love Finland, great people.
Simon Brunel you can really tell by all 27 people in the crowd.
i mean let's be real unless it's the red sox MLB games have pretty much the same attendance
Pseudotaxus this is pretty similar to minor league attendance. You would need to add about 25,000 people for it to equate to an average MLB game.
sarcasm, and when you look at video footage of baseball crowds it pales in comparison to any other major US sport
Pseudotaxus not really. MLB averages more fans than NBA and NHL arenas even hold. The NFL, NASCAR, and college football are the only sports that outdraw MLB. Those sports only have games/races once a week. MLB teams play at least 6 times a week.
This is considerably more entertaining than 21st century American professional baseball. Players actually have to run all the bases rather than jog after hitting it over the fence, and almost every batter has to be put out at a base rather than have a game with 20-25 strikeouts between the two teams.
It's much more strategic and fast-paced
@@solaredI think dead ball era baseball is better. Like 1900-1919
@@ThekiBoran definitely better than the sport in its modern form. i'm biased, but when you understand this sport, it's just as entertaining.
Come on guys - it is only 90 deg difference - try it and you will love it!
It’s derived from the US baseball by a professor who went there. It’s supposed to keep the teens and young men healthy and entertained. It’s rather popular in small towns, not in the cities.
Tampere IS Not a City ?
@@holoholopainen1627Bruh, it has 200,000 people...
Ah, look at that sky! What a beautiful day for Pesäpallo ...
I'm finnish and while I like watching pesäpallo, I somehow also enjoy watching american baseball. It's a different game.
Is this blernsball?
+CallmeCram pesäpallo
Finnish Baseball
it's in the description.
What IS That ? Where Do They play / that Game ?
I don’t see Leela or fry
Where Do They play That ?
There are some similarities of Pesäpallo and Baseball although there are far more differences
mcatuara1 the same skills are required tho?
This is the weirdest game of Blernsball I've ever seen
Does all The Games has to be The Same ? In Different Games - The Rules tell You what to Do !
Those birds are fit
Calvinball?
second spacious is for the only seventh circumspect over his limb from limbo
What game is this
100 years of PESAPALLO - born at Boston Mass !
I was expecting to see sharks playing baseball
NFL Prospect Report thats pesäpallo not baseball
Fins vs Finns - as ITÄ vs LÄNSI
Baseball on acid
This is hilarious..
What kind of food is at these games?
+peter wyatt middleton. Boiled turnips?
+peter wyatt middleton. "Makkara" --> sausage. No bun, though. Just the sausage. Its a little underwhelming, but its the Finnish professional sport watching snack of choice. :)
Polarbear meat an Mämmi.
Free Booze & Sauna Ilta !
It turned Out to be Mixed SAUNA - but I had to Drive Home My Motorcycle !
*What.... The..... Fuck.....*
I need the rules and explanation why do they need to hold up their hands and yell though?
Raziq Azrie Rohaimann because it helps runners.
"Very interesting game we have to learn more about it." :D Sure dude. I especially love that "Why did i come here?" facial impression.
To play Ball - Everybody Does That !
You dont seems to understand - WHY People play Sports in General - Do You ? Do You know How many % of OVERWEIGHT - People has nothing to Do with Sports ? That is close to 100%
You fucking kidding me? I'd obliterate the ball.
Can you imagine the top sluggers in MLB in this? Holy FUCK.
Yeah, I can imagine. They all would suck.
The ball must hit inside the field or it is a faul.
@@XtreeM_FaiL You're on a special kind of drugs if you think an average MLB hitter can't routinely hit for singles in this.
Home run and your out!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
+MrPete8680 no the homerunner stay in 3rd base and can try exstra points, if he can make it team gets one more run..
The ball has to hit the field within the boundaries - if it's over the back line, it's out, as well as it'd be over the side or front line
The Mr. Pete Channel to be honest, both of the games are really boring. And I am a finn, I should like boring
Thank God the Indian's have not found out about this game, If they will There will be a Influx of "Cricket is Better" "Kohli is King and better" "Sir, I like this game but cricket is Better and India number 1"
There is a small federation of this sport in India,not very large and it´s a new sport over there, and a world cup not long ago was played in Pune India 2019
Bangladesh and India both had men and woman teams representing there countries
Thanks to Your Comment - this IS The FASTEST CROWING SPORT in INDIA ! - but which Indians You talked above ? Do You know a Holiday Destination called as WEST INDIES ?
Nay nay.
This has nothing on blernsball
Dumbass its pesäpallo 🌚
+WhileUrReadingThisNameImStealingUrCake&Cookies I didn't say it wasn't
xd
whatever floats people's boats. i don't understand the sport but i'm sure there are Finns who don't understand baseball either so it's all good
+fluffynoses This is indeed true. I started watching baseball videos sometime ago and got very confused when players were allowed to move forward, even though an outfield player caught the ball from midair. Wounding is such a basic integral concept in Finnish baseball that I hadn't even considered the idea that that wouldn't be a rule in the regular one.
That sher is some funny lookin' baseball you guys play..
This what baseball looks like to people who have never seen baseball.
This is over 100years - since The Boston Red Sox Game Lauri " Tahko " Pihkala went to see ! Nobody told Him the Rules - but He wrote everything down on paper ! This was before TITANIC was build - so He Had to take a Liner back to England and then to Finland ! You must remember that there was No Computers then ! He introduced The Game to a local Club Klubi - and was a PIONEER ! This Game was introduced to World Wide Audience at Helsinki 1940 - 1952 Olympics ! Everybody had hopes - that at Next Australia 1956 Games There would be several International Teams already !
Now You seen IT ! There Are many Games - that You May have never heard of ?
Why do they wear helmets
Ball is pretty hard
They Hit the Ball - so It flies like a Silver Bullet !
The ball is hard enough to kill a player if it hits your head from short distance. These things have happened.
Its harder than baseball
wait...what just...what? XD
why are these french people ruining american sports, gg
Google allows naughty words like Fuck and Shit
this was the ultimate answer, Probly i augh on this for next month. Thank you sir for that
sausagefinger12 Typos hit again, Propably i laugh is the correction
vvvortic You will need much snazzier hat to troll here. You silly booboo did you not knew that trolls originate from Scandinavia and we have much more pedigree on that field.
+vvvortic Don't know why the French do so,
I rather watch these here Finns playing pesäpallo
fast and smart.
Maybe you need to loose or lose the hat
to notice there's a big world around you
beyond the hot hat.
That's so 'out' in about 5 years
When this game just keeps rolling.
+sahiblindberg "An American who thinks all the Europe is the same" versus a European who thinks all America is the same. Tell me good sir, what is the difference, and is the other entitled to be declared superior?
Further evidence fins are odd.