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  • čas přidán 28. 12. 2018
  • We continue our Best Space Marine series today. This time we take another look at the Security Operations from Avatar and their noble battle against the Na'vi.
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  • @vladimirdragonov
    @vladimirdragonov Před 5 lety +401

    Imperial guard
    When you lose 2/3rds of your force and still outnumber the enemy

    • @lordpfeiffer8490
      @lordpfeiffer8490 Před 5 lety +19

      Thats what conscripts are used for they have alot 6 mintues life expectancy.... while battleharden guards men can expect to live through mutiple battles. Also tanks and vechile crews are highly valuable and won't go in unless they need them to hold the line or make a breakthrough.

    • @bensnumber1fan708
      @bensnumber1fan708 Před 5 lety +20

      cadia stands!

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 Před 5 lety +22

      The Guard loses 2/3rd of its forces but the enemy loses 9/10ths of its own!
      Imperial Guard are OUTNUMBERED in most battles!

    • @vladimirdragonov
      @vladimirdragonov Před 5 lety +9

      @@christiandauz3742 if your fighting tyranids or works yeah...eldar? Tau? Any planet dumb enough to rebel?

    • @aaronsouthard8366
      @aaronsouthard8366 Před 5 lety +9

      THE EMPEROR PROTECTS

  • @tomaszskowronski1406
    @tomaszskowronski1406 Před 5 lety +37

    "There's a space soldier circling somewhere around Uranus, probing for threats in order to keep your ass safe". Thats a triple pun. Bravo.

  • @L0stEngineer
    @L0stEngineer Před 5 lety +277

    Wow American Ben, that was such an intricate tapestry of slurs, innuendos, vivid metaphors and alien degradation that any space drill instructor would shed a tear. In fact, it probably reached critical mass and is still orbiting as we speak.
    Edit: Thanks, for the call out at the end. It is much appreciated.

    • @tavernburner3066
      @tavernburner3066 Před 5 lety +7

      I think there slowly ramping it up until we get to the imperial guard. Them being the most xenophobic of them all.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar Před 5 lety +2

      @@tavernburner3066 nah, try the Deathwatch marines of the ordo Xenos

  • @azrael1263
    @azrael1263 Před 5 lety +107

    Suffer not the alien, the mutant, the heretic.

    • @kirillzakharov7336
      @kirillzakharov7336 Před 4 lety +2

      The invader is the one who deserves suffering before anyone else

  • @almostamateur
    @almostamateur Před 5 lety +351

    anyone else secretly rooting for the space marines the whole time?
    edit: "secretly" because your species-traitor "friends" are watching with you.

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  Před 5 lety +65

      Yes.

    • @General_Eisenhower1945
      @General_Eisenhower1945 Před 5 lety +6

      @@GenerationFilms they would have one. But that wouldn't be good for business

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 Před 5 lety +21

      As a Warhammer 40K fan I say purge the Xenos. For the God Emperor.

    • @Phenixtri
      @Phenixtri Před 5 lety +8

      Fun fact there is a pretty dam good 40k / avatar cross over fan fic where pandora gets colonized by the IG in the form of the steel legion regiments supported by adeptus astarties and adeptus mechanicus. Needless to say the IoM wins ..... That is until the tau show up then things get interesting.

    • @suspicioususer
      @suspicioususer Před 5 lety +1

      "Secretly" lol

  • @gavinlee27
    @gavinlee27 Před 5 lety +89

    Generation Films are the kind of guys that play Stellaris exclusively with fanatic xenophobic ethics

    • @danielpichardo7749
      @danielpichardo7749 Před 5 lety +15

      Gavin Lee is there any other way?

    • @Rainbowhawk1993
      @Rainbowhawk1993 Před 5 lety +5

      So they are the military Division of the Greater Terran Union of the Templin Institute?

    • @harbour2118
      @harbour2118 Před rokem

      And whats wrong with that?

  • @michaelmccabe3079
    @michaelmccabe3079 Před 5 lety +89

    Security contractors, bounty hunters, and mercs can come with asymmetric advantages, but a hotheaded leader will usually throw them away.
    Another two key ingredients are reconnaissance and indirect fire weapons. Without good reconnaissance and constant dismounted patrolling, the mercs can't project power over a large area. Dismounted patrolling would also be necessary for developing an understanding of how terrain and wildlife will affect operations, while also wardingoff boredom from being stuck on guard duty for 8 hours.
    Indirect fire weapons are also crucial. The navi have no means to counter them, and so coordinated batteries of indirect fire weapons can ensure that no units are isolated and vulnerable to destruction in detail. Indirect fire weapons would also do more damage to anything that is bulletproof.

    • @doctorhunger921
      @doctorhunger921 Před 5 lety +8

      To be fair, they're not exactly a standing army, OR meant for projection of force. They are on Pandora under the official capacity of "security personnel".

    • @justinthompson6364
      @justinthompson6364 Před 5 lety +4

      @@doctorhunger921 This series is examining them as "space marines." And they're already quite militarized (note the mechs and armed aicraft). I don't think either of those improvements would be much of a stretch.

    • @michaelmccabe3079
      @michaelmccabe3079 Před 5 lety +6

      @@doctorhunger921 Correct on both points; however, I am comparing them to mercs and security forces in Africa during the 1970s-80s, when tribal warfare, Communist raids, and wildlife were all threats that required said security personnel to range far outside the wire in order to protect the workers and intercept any incoming attacks. Quite a fascinating period of history.

    • @EthanThomson
      @EthanThomson Před 5 lety +2

      one issue with IDF on Pandora is range. lots of tall trees and canyons in the way

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 Před 5 lety +1

      @@EthanThomson
      The Artillery and Flamethrowers of the Guard would easily take care of that

  • @machadamius5130
    @machadamius5130 Před 5 lety +71

    This guy's better not screw up or butcher the Imperial Guard

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  Před 5 lety +21

      Haha, we will do our best to deliver.

    • @andrewkorzinek
      @andrewkorzinek Před 5 lety +13

      @@GenerationFilms just remember, "The planet broke before the guard did!"

    • @baker90338
      @baker90338 Před 5 lety +1

      Astra millitarum are godlike in their armor and artillery, and damned in their infantry. Few enemies of man can survive against the 1 1 B A R R E L S O F H E L L from the baneblade, the heavy armor of the Leman Russ, and the near infinite range of the death strike missle launcher, or the basilisk’s cannon’s sheer power. The Astra militarum is much like a WW2 Soviet force.

    • @L0stEngineer
      @L0stEngineer Před 5 lety +1

      Well.... Butchering the I.G. is kinda the point. Its a legitimate strategy, it drains the enemy of ammunition as you prep for a bayonet charge.

    • @aaronsouthard8366
      @aaronsouthard8366 Před 5 lety +5

      Well if they do they will be Blammed by a commisar for having a lack of faith in the God Emperor

  • @ironstarofmordian7098
    @ironstarofmordian7098 Před 5 lety +14

    American Ben. My senior drill instructor when I joined the Space Force.

  • @CommanderM117
    @CommanderM117 Před 5 lety +10

    you gotta a admit Miles Quaritch shooting at the traitor and Holding his breath was pretty awesome

  • @Indoor_Carrot
    @Indoor_Carrot Před 5 lety +4

    "Circling Uranus, poking for threats to keep your ass safe"
    Brilliant XD

  • @TheFuri0uswc
    @TheFuri0uswc Před 5 lety +73

    Just use naplam, agent orange, and orbital bombardment

    • @FrozenLord66
      @FrozenLord66 Před 5 lety +2

      when the humans get all of the Unobtanium than exterminatus the planet of thos big blu xeno filth

    • @greensleeves5710
      @greensleeves5710 Před 5 lety +2

      White phosphorus

    • @arieson7715
      @arieson7715 Před 4 lety +5

      @Hoàng Nguyên It didn't work because the north vietnamese had rat tunnels, the Na'vi don't.

    • @jeremyholland4527
      @jeremyholland4527 Před 4 lety

      Do you know hard is it to get the VA to pay for injuries related to orbital bombardment? Harder than agent orange.

    • @over6006
      @over6006 Před 3 lety

      US marines : just like nam

  • @lucofparis4819
    @lucofparis4819 Před 5 lety +44

    SecOps lack armored combat Infantry vehicles, main battle tanks, and air superiority fighters.

    • @duncanharrell5009
      @duncanharrell5009 Před 5 lety +7

      How, exactly, do you intend to ship, supply, maintain, or, hell, use them on Pandora? It’s a huge jungle moon, with little to no dirt roads and only the Firebase (whatever the main base was called), could even remotely pretend to keep those working. Remember they only have roughly 12 or so supply shuttles that can transport troops and supplies from Earth to Pandora and takes years to get there. They can’t even send a fully built tank. They’d have to disassemble it and then have the tools and facilities to reassemble it and then store it. Also, what about the fuel and ammo problem?

    • @lucofparis4819
      @lucofparis4819 Před 5 lety +13

      @@duncanharrell5009 Did you see the size of their starships? The size of their shuttles? It's more than capable to transport and deploy tanks and fighters. It's even big enough to deploy satellites and assemble a space station. Just take a look at the size of the trucks who actually "just" serve as transports for unobtainium between the mine and the base. Now, take a look at the size of the base itself. You'll quickly realize it's the size of a big airport. Yeah, they're more than capable to have all these toys. Yet they don't use them. Instead, they use puny mech suits barely able to enhance a soldier overall utility on such battlefield. SpecOps literally deserved to loose. At this point. No artillery, even as tanks, is a crime in this context.

    • @dinocha0s
      @dinocha0s Před 5 lety +3

      And good ol artilery

    • @user-gc1hg9sp9k
      @user-gc1hg9sp9k Před 5 lety +3

      SecOps cannot use tank because tank cannot move throught deep jungle

    • @user-gc1hg9sp9k
      @user-gc1hg9sp9k Před 5 lety +2

      Basically, this war its like vietnam war, but in foreign planet

  • @TheLordUrban
    @TheLordUrban Před 5 lety +80

    Buncha babes in the wood. Give me two regiments of Catachans and I’ll reduce Pandora to a quivering pile of xenos gore.

    • @danielpichardo7749
      @danielpichardo7749 Před 5 lety +23

      Don’t waste resources soldier
      Half a regiment would do

    • @Mailed-Knight
      @Mailed-Knight Před 5 lety +2

      The point of the RDA was to complete their objective with minimal xenos causalities.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Před 5 lety +9

      why bother with deploying jungle fighters? all we need is the raw resources of the planet, just virus bomb or nuke the planet from orbit then send the death korps of krieg to clean up the resulting wasteland before strip mineing the planet.

    • @spartacusthebringerofrain3007
      @spartacusthebringerofrain3007 Před 5 lety +7

      Then they'll terra form it too good as new just in time for a space hulk with a billion orks on it to destroy it again.

    • @nathanieljernigan1147
      @nathanieljernigan1147 Před 5 lety +1

      @@spartacusthebringerofrain3007 hey now, that's only if a Hive Fleet doesn't get to it first. Or if the world isn't infact secretly a Tomb World. Or place of importance to Eldar. Or within proximity of Dark Eldar Raiders. Or infected by genestealer cults and then hit by a Hive Fleet. Or is just lost to the bureaucracy of the Imperium, leaving the small starting colony to be left to their own devices and fall to chaos.

  • @amfriendly6723
    @amfriendly6723 Před 5 lety +126

    Flaws? (Laughs in Astartes)

    • @szymonbollin6277
      @szymonbollin6277 Před 5 lety +7

      Black rage, the red thirst.

    • @hmsrenown9749
      @hmsrenown9749 Před 5 lety +5

      Pauldrons.

    • @ethanmaloney3438
      @ethanmaloney3438 Před 5 lety +7

      Actually I think they are planning to use the imperial guard instead because of the same reasons they didnt use the spartans from halo. I am hopeing they do a super soldier comparison though.

    • @justinthompson6364
      @justinthompson6364 Před 5 lety +5

      @@ethanmaloney3438 It's kind of hard to analyse the imperial guard due to the inconsistencies between units.

    • @ethanmaloney3438
      @ethanmaloney3438 Před 5 lety

      Agreed but a general overview may be possible, for instance the variety of worlds mean that regemennt from different worlds will be better in different combat scenarios. Also most have a general type of gear.

  • @randycheow4268
    @randycheow4268 Před 5 lety +77

    Why these guys kinda look like a mix of the Colonial Marines and UNSC marines except they had mech suits

    • @mylegocustoms3443
      @mylegocustoms3443 Před 5 lety +10

      The UNSC has cyclops

    • @SinistralRifleman
      @SinistralRifleman Před 5 lety +12

      Because James Cameron directed Aliens and Avatar.

    • @akessel92train
      @akessel92train Před 5 lety +2

      My Lego Customs don’t forget Mantis

    • @ironstarofmordian7098
      @ironstarofmordian7098 Před 5 lety +3

      @@mylegocustoms3443 they kinda suck. The MI power armor of the books would smoke every faction period. They can even dish it to Imperial space Marines.

    • @AlanGChenery
      @AlanGChenery Před 5 lety

      All three of those factions have mechsuits.

  • @CAP198462
    @CAP198462 Před 5 lety +3

    Imperial Guard/ Astra Militarum
    “You have sullied your hands with filthy parchments of heresy guardsman...too late”

  • @rossato2109
    @rossato2109 Před 5 lety +3

    The "fornicate with spaceships" made me spill water on my keyboard lol.

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 Před 5 lety +5

    Negotiations with aliens:
    Shoot it
    Take all resources
    Improve humanity

  • @tomfuller4205
    @tomfuller4205 Před 5 lety +2

    I love the opening monologue.

  • @oliverewarthopkins7818
    @oliverewarthopkins7818 Před 5 lety +4

    "Nuke them from orbit".
    "That's so cute" says the Galactic Empire, while patting them on the head.

  • @Banchoking
    @Banchoking Před 5 lety +31

    I wanted to see an alternate version of this movie where the humans were uplifting the na'vi and the villains were na'vi Luddites and human traitors.

    • @htoodoh5770
      @htoodoh5770 Před 5 lety +8

      Isn't that already the premise of the movies?

    • @drows3y_tiger344
      @drows3y_tiger344 Před 5 lety +7

      @@htoodoh5770 if you flip it around yeah. They want the human traitors and aliens to be the "good guys"

    • @htoodoh5770
      @htoodoh5770 Před 5 lety +1

      @@drows3y_tiger344 true

  • @HistoryBoy-oh7mb
    @HistoryBoy-oh7mb Před 5 lety +3

    American Ben with a Southern Accent? I LOVE IT!

  • @nobleman9393
    @nobleman9393 Před 5 lety +30

    For Argentina!

    • @martinxy1291
      @martinxy1291 Před 5 lety +2

      why? were not worth it. America is literally 40 times more worth

    • @oam6626
      @oam6626 Před 5 lety +1

      Martin XY fucking Angola is a thousand times better than Argentina

    • @nuttmc4803
      @nuttmc4803 Před 5 lety

      @@oam6626 no UGANDA IS BETTER

    • @angloempire6935
      @angloempire6935 Před 5 lety +2

      Falklands are British

  • @EvolNioxis
    @EvolNioxis Před 5 lety +14

    American been speaking the true true lol 1:38

  • @alexvogel610
    @alexvogel610 Před 5 lety +2

    Even on earth you see militaries adapt to their environment; look at the last half of the 19th century up through the beginning of the 20th century. While the European land powers were trending towards light caliber small arms, especially in side arms (Czarist Russia went from the .44 Russian down to the 7.62 Nagant; Imperial Germany dropped from 11mm to 9mm, France adopted the 8mm Ordinance cartridge), frontier powers like the US and Great Britain retained large caliber stopping weapons like the .455 Webley and .45 ACP and .45 Colt. While European powers were mostly concerned with stopping peer Armies, the US and Brits were factoring in both other humans as well as wildlife and native threats. While .32's and .38's were often considered adequate for civilian defense, the US insisted on the .44 as a round capable of stopping a horse, not just a person. The Brits, likewise, were not only facing African and Indian natives, but also lions and elephants and tigers on a much more regular basis than their continental contemporaries.
    In current times, 5.56 is more popular than 7.62 because you can carry more of it, it has a flatter trajectory, better armor plate penetration, and it will adequately stop a human threat. A 7.62 or other full size battle rifle will do a much better job with terminal ballistics, but a 5.56 will give you a better chance to make that hit. Moving forward, a small round like 5.56 will be far less effective on a 10 foot tall blue space monkey, and pretty much useless on armored space rhinos. The troops should have figured that out a generation before, and started importing weapons appropriate to the threat at hand. Figure a way to cram an explosive tipped 20mm into a convenient package, mount gatlings on the mech suits to bring up both stopping power AND hit probability. These things are available, they just need to make use of them. There are shoulder fired 20mm cannons today--there's no reason they couldn't be improved upon and adapted for a future space force.

  • @justicetaylor2695
    @justicetaylor2695 Před 5 lety +3

    I just remembered an important line from the film.
    "Don't touch that or you'll go blind." Said by the females navi scientist when the new dude was looking at his navi ponytail nerve bundle.
    The threat of going blind from touching a certain part of your body sounds familiar... Like, yah know, a reason given not to masturbate.
    I don't know if it's literal or a don't fap reference, but I wouldn't want to find out.
    What if instead of going blind, you make normal masturbation obsolete since you can't out pleasure directly exposed nerves?

  • @linuxoperatingsystem6402
    @linuxoperatingsystem6402 Před 5 lety +15

    10 Features that made the TIE Defender the best TIE. Try 17 i think

  • @bigslurpee2078
    @bigslurpee2078 Před 5 lety +2

    I love this. It's great. Thank you.

  • @xestril3877
    @xestril3877 Před 5 lety +2

    BY THE EMPEROR THE WAIT IS ALMOST OVER. The Imperium of Man's glorious guardsmen shall storm the field.

  • @vice-jofficial7414
    @vice-jofficial7414 Před 5 lety +2

    Best of the humanity have to offer 👌🏻👌🏻

  • @scifience8297
    @scifience8297 Před 5 lety +25

    please do a video on the most powerful and most realistic starfighters in sci fi

  • @nothingclever7582
    @nothingclever7582 Před 5 lety +16

    It my be sad but I always wanted one of thare masks

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  Před 5 lety +4

      Do you live on a planet that has an atmosphere with carbon dioxide levels too high for human habitation or just a collector?

    • @nothingclever7582
      @nothingclever7582 Před 5 lety +4

      @@GenerationFilms no but it looks cool

    • @MalfosRanger
      @MalfosRanger Před 5 lety +1

      @@nothingclever7582 That's relatable. One of the clearest distinctions between alien savages and human civilization is appreciation for headgear. Only primitives shun hats, helmets, or scarves.

  • @DoodleMan149
    @DoodleMan149 Před 5 lety +1

    1:35 best string of adjectives for the Navi I've ever heard lol

  • @linguisticallyoversight8685

    Dune fremen Fedaykin
    Or even the fishspeakers
    Or how about the emperor's personal Sardaukar
    Hell anything from Dune

    • @freezetasticvoyage19
      @freezetasticvoyage19 Před 5 lety +1

      Klingons, Jem'Hadar, or Yautja, even

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin Před 5 lety +2

      The Fremen and Fishspeakers are barely human anymore after thousands of years of mutation and controlled breeding

    • @davidegaribaldi1503
      @davidegaribaldi1503 Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah that'd be nice; I personally would like to see the Sardaukar

  • @juanrobles3183
    @juanrobles3183 Před 5 lety +2

    Man this video had me laughing all the way!😂

  • @greensleeves5710
    @greensleeves5710 Před 4 lety +1

    I almost cried at the anti-Na'vi statements. As a former member of secops, it's not every day a hardened space warrior is reduced to a sentimental old human

  • @thehalobrony9050
    @thehalobrony9050 Před 5 lety

    I am so happy that they brought up the AVATAR: THE GAME. I have a deep love and nostalgia for it, and the graffic of that game is impressive!

    • @AmericanUnionState1824
      @AmericanUnionState1824 Před 5 lety

      I love that game because you can fight as a R.D.A Soldiers a kill some Nav'I scums.

  • @nicholasleon7819
    @nicholasleon7819 Před 5 lety

    That death of hope trailer footage at the end; YOUR FIGHT IS WITH ME TRAITOR

  • @KICKASSoBASSIST
    @KICKASSoBASSIST Před 5 lety +1

    #4 no ejection seat is probably due to the vehicle being designed specifically against the navi. If that’s the case of course some things won’t be added because they would be seen as unnecessary

  • @dracovirals7705
    @dracovirals7705 Před 5 lety +1

    Avatar movie is my favorite it's very relaxing and dreamy to watch.

  • @kolinmartz
    @kolinmartz Před 5 lety +9

    Sec ops has awful ballistic protection. The glass on their vehicles’ cockpits can’t even stop subsonic arrows. I’m pretty sure they’re also only wearing soft body armor like Kevlar. Plate inserts on plate carriers will have no problem stopping subsonic projectile. If you try to tell me that the Na’vi arrows have the same kinetic energy as a rifle round then you’re telling me that the film has bad science to begin with.

    • @ericjohnson7234
      @ericjohnson7234 Před 5 lety +1

      Yep. It's supposed to be symbolic, which in my opinion just ruins the film.

    • @bloodtypeinfinity5143
      @bloodtypeinfinity5143 Před 5 lety +1

      An English longbow could kill a man in full plate armor. I don't know what the draw weight is for a bow made for 10ft tall blue monkey people, but I'm guessing that body armor thick enough to stop it would be too heavy to be practical for unenhanced humans. I mean, it could pierce ballistic glass for goodness sake!

    • @doctorhunger921
      @doctorhunger921 Před 5 lety +2

      The arrows couldn't penetrate the glass though. They had to be divebombing them at a hundred miles per hour on their little dragons and stuff to actually generate enough kinetic energy to put their arrows through the glass.
      And you'd be hardpressed to find ANY body armor that could withstand the draw weight of those bows and arrows. Each arrow must be at LEAST 3 pounds, and are tipped with bone arrowheads laced with naturally occurring carbon fiber, and each bow must have a draw weight somewhere in the 300#'s range, making the arrow travel around 350f/s. I don't think any ar500 plate could withstand the force of a bowstaff flying at you around 200mph.
      By the way, the muzzle energy on a 5.56 is 1200 ft/lbs, whereas the Na'vi bow and arrow has 5600 ft/lbs of energy. That's...That's pretty crazy. That's comparable to the infamous .470 Nitro Express cartridge, capable of producing up to 5100 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. At that point, bullets like 7.62 NATO and 5.56 aren't even on the menu. The amount of power these bows are packing are immense.

    • @bloodtypeinfinity5143
      @bloodtypeinfinity5143 Před 5 lety

      @@doctorhunger921 Maybe not the flyers, but couldn't the bows penetrate the cockpit glass on the mech walkers?

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 Před 5 lety

      @@doctorhunger921
      I bet that the Carapace Armor that the Scions of the Guardsmen of the Imperium of Man would stop one of those arrows
      The Scion is still wounded but still alive and capable of fighting
      Scions are so OP they would kill all the Navi within just days

  • @nathancrever5161
    @nathancrever5161 Před 5 lety +2

    Sir, yes sir!

  • @lordundhimself1310
    @lordundhimself1310 Před 5 lety

    American Ben....you're a genius.

  • @mastershangchi3410
    @mastershangchi3410 Před 5 lety

    I really enjoyed playing the avatar game. Played it a few years ago. Great fun.

  • @scriptonite2182
    @scriptonite2182 Před 5 lety

    That t-shirt got to love it.
    And I subscribed because of it

  • @bliblablubb9590
    @bliblablubb9590 Před 5 lety +2

    "so ask yourself: do you like sex with animals or do you support the troops" best quote ever

  • @noah.w1697
    @noah.w1697 Před 5 lety +3

    you must add the valiant marines from star craft, to support them in there fight against the Zerg and Protoss scum.

  • @mericanjoe4070
    @mericanjoe4070 Před 5 lety +18

    No nuke? Well that's a 3

  • @Fede_uyz
    @Fede_uyz Před 4 lety

    Space force veteran here... deployed with the 32nd moon jumper division, 46th Space recon regiment to the Fra'ckshaq 2 solar system back during operation Blue Force for 6 back to back tours back in 2078-2081 (Space Recon Force, stationed at Echo-7 FOB in Fu'thar region.) The streets of Oldor c7 saw some of the hardest fighting the Recon Force has engaged to this day.. i even remember clear as oldor' day when i gor my SCAB (Space Combat Action Badge) took a sonic ied to our armored transports... we lost some damn good men that day.
    Made it all the way to Lunar Sargent before taking a goddamn anti-gravitationsl mortar roud 10 meters from my position.
    Hearts (all 3 of them) and minds people, all 3 hearts and minds
    Also, dont expect orbital support, we cleared half a valley of oorklugs before they gave us the time of day (which ironically it was innacurate since they were using mean space time)

  • @alluringming
    @alluringming Před 5 lety

    You guys should do something with battletech-mechwarrior universe. I see many people do videos about halo, Star Wars, warhammer, aliens, and other sci-fi franchises but don't see many involving battleteach/mechwarrior series. They have many factions that be comparable to space marines and do have an impressive space fleet. Anyways good video and look forward to next one

  • @lazyeclipse00
    @lazyeclipse00 Před 5 lety

    I laughed so hard at “ I get , reading is for aliens “

  • @toptiergaming6900
    @toptiergaming6900 Před rokem

    I got an idea to fix the nuke problem. Take some of the antimatter from one of the ISVs and use that to make a bomb of similar power. Only afew grams would be needed when the ship store several tones of it on board in those massive spherical tanks. Siphoning of some of that to fuel a bomb would be easy

  • @fireberrytaco
    @fireberrytaco Před 4 lety

    This is why humanity will never be able to expand in a way we can never imagine. We humans are the best monsters.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Před 5 lety +1

    I wonder how the PREDATOR would go on safari on Pandora ?

  • @astronomicaldreamscape6156
    @astronomicaldreamscape6156 Před 5 lety +11

    I have a video idea for you
    Compare all the space marines and see which is best/worse

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  Před 5 lety +5

      We just might do that!

    • @blazeace1155
      @blazeace1155 Před 5 lety +4

      that is unfair to all non-warhammer 40k space marines

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 Před 5 lety +1

      Catachan Guardsmen can rip normal humans into pieces with their bare hands!
      Their Knives are more dangerous than Lightsabers!
      Death Korps DO NOT RETREAT OR SURRENDER!

    • @blazeace1155
      @blazeace1155 Před 5 lety

      @@christiandauz3742 also one main advantages of the I.G. is theirs numbers, to not say the support of superheavy tanks and the legio titanica

    • @lancer737
      @lancer737 Před 5 lety

      @@blazeace1155 believe it or not it's not. You have to remember mundane things do kill Marines often, and theirs things more dangerous than them in other factions.

  • @ryanhartigan8758
    @ryanhartigan8758 Před 5 lety

    One other big flaw (which I don’t know if it’s cannon) but some of the ground units that partook in the Battle of Pandora were actually just civilian miners armed by quarritch and probably lacked any combat experience. The scene got deleted from the movie but it’s on CZcams if you look it up.

  • @gaberesendez6492
    @gaberesendez6492 Před 5 lety

    hey that’s my buddy at 2:17 😂😂

  • @urskinaattori203
    @urskinaattori203 Před 5 lety +2

    When earth starts to send space marines to space i will be the first one to voulnteer

  • @a.d.3352
    @a.d.3352 Před 4 lety +1

    Kill for the living,Kill for the Dead in memory of all those who fell on Pandora.

  • @jdmolina4307
    @jdmolina4307 Před 5 lety +3

    Humanity first!

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 Před 5 lety +4

    Lets do a best mechanized forces in Sci-fi. My suggestion is the ESF from Gundam 00.

    • @randomelite4562
      @randomelite4562 Před 5 lety

      Barry Bend What do you mean by mechanized. Likes Mechs?

  • @Stratonetic
    @Stratonetic Před 5 lety +2

    Flaws? There are none, the space marines from AVATAR are what you think when you hear Humanity First and that nominates them for an automatic ten out of ten.

  • @willbob6473
    @willbob6473 Před 3 lety

    Got a good laugh out of that intro

  • @zombiephobe2230
    @zombiephobe2230 Před 5 lety

    I have to contest you on the argument about the bows. The smallest bow they would use would be bigger than the English longbows from the 1300s at around six feet long. Those things were devastating against French armour (steel plate). Besides, since the invention of gunpowder, armour has not been able to keep up, advancement-wise.

  • @CheemsofRegret
    @CheemsofRegret Před 5 lety +1

    The greatest flaw the Marines have, and thus greatest advantage that the blueskins have, is plot armor

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 Před 5 lety

      Even the Ultramarines (who have more plot armor than these chumps and the Rebels) get wrecked, usually by Chaos or Tyranids

  • @Klipik12
    @Klipik12 Před 5 lety +5

    I feel like with the amount of parallels made in the movie between na'vi and native Americans, insulting them as much as possible at every turn is maybe bordering on not okay
    But as long as it's not serious I guess?
    😬

    • @danielpichardo7749
      @danielpichardo7749 Před 5 lety +3

      starkiller187 natives didn’t have sex with trees
      Or did they?

    • @manicmike1293
      @manicmike1293 Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah I dont think its serious. It's like a mix of satire and thinking like the guys in the setting would be thinking. Since he's been doing alot of videos on space marines set in sci fi, i think hes doing it with a degree of campiness and xenophobia that are built into the different settings. Think of it like he's cos-playing as a Mobile Infantryman from Starship Troopers (the movie) and kept quoting "would you like to know more?" or "the only good bug is a dead bug" every 5 minutes.

    • @eyesofstatic9641
      @eyesofstatic9641 Před 4 lety

      Really? Jesus. Holy fuck thin skin and the inability to appreciate a decent video. Just look at fucking history and see everyone has taken land to get where they are. Pathetic tbh. Drawing false connections to further your own disillusioned fantasy. Read a book and please, for the love of god, cite a civilization that wasn't found on conquest or territorial gains. I will be waiting for a PM to discuss the matter. I will accept any proof otherwise. "As long as it's not serious i guess"

  • @theecapitan
    @theecapitan Před 5 lety

    I feel like I might be a little late to the party but what about he M.A.C.O from Star Trek Enterprise? I’d be interested to see a video on those guys. Again I loved this video so thank you

  • @RDeathmark
    @RDeathmark Před 5 lety

    I've always loved the breathing thing of the movie because I head cannoned it is that the reason humans couldn't breathe on Pandora was because they came from Earth that was so polluted and with such a tainted atmosphere that the pure atmosphere of Pandora without pollutants was incompatible with their lungs anymore

    • @zjschulling
      @zjschulling Před 5 lety

      You dont just become "used" to a polluted atmosphere. Evolution takes thousands of years. Their lungs are the same as ours

  • @mollof7893
    @mollof7893 Před 5 lety +5

    What are Generation Film’s thoughts on *Cat Girls?* They aren’t really humans but they’re still sort of humans.

    • @popejpv
      @popejpv Před 5 lety +2

      I imagine the Humanity First doctrine would be along the lines of the Imperium’s which clearly states “Purge the alien, the MUTANT, the heretic!”

    • @bliblablubb9590
      @bliblablubb9590 Před 5 lety +1

      This weakens the genepool of humanity and promotes bestiality. They have to be seen as alien scum trying to fish for human pity and therefore have to be eradicated. Damn you for even waver infront of the enemy and showing mercy!

    • @MalfosRanger
      @MalfosRanger Před 5 lety

      Domestication is a time-honored human tradition.

    • @firebladeentertainment5739
      @firebladeentertainment5739 Před 5 lety

      let them not only talk about cat girls, let them talk about any half human species like lamia, centaurs, spidergirls and anything else found in fiction that is partially human and how they could be integrated into a mixed species military!

    • @alphamoon_
      @alphamoon_ Před 5 lety

      @@popejpv Don't they let some mutants serve in the IG?

  • @Sophistry0001
    @Sophistry0001 Před 5 lety

    How hard can it be to stop arrows? I'm going to assume that the bows used by the Navi have a heavier draw weight then human bows because they are so much bigger, but even still some plate armor with a high tech alloy and maybe some kevlar style gambison underneath should be enough.

  • @34Francoa
    @34Francoa Před 5 lety

    I am pretty sure Alan said they were doing the Imperial guardsmen American Ben from his first video he made when this started. Since the Space Marines were way to OP and would be used in a "Spec Ops" deal since that basicly what they do if normal forces cant handle it. I could be wrong I guess but he said when you guys do spec ops focusing like sparatins and other elite forces space marines would be in it American Ben. Sorry if I am wrong but thats what I remember from his video the first one when this started.

  • @fernejoseph1363
    @fernejoseph1363 Před 4 lety +1

    long live man!!!!

  • @davidegaribaldi1503
    @davidegaribaldi1503 Před 5 lety

    Keeping the best for last I see

  • @lrn5152
    @lrn5152 Před 5 lety +1

    I remember rooting for them for some reason. I kind of think James Cameron made the RDA unethical killing machines. And the justification they use to invade Pandora was pretty crappy too. I wish there was more to it so people wouldn't just be coaxed into siding with the Na'vi (treehumpers lol).

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 Před 5 lety

      Sadly there is historical reasoning for the RDA
      Look up the Congo Free State
      -Chopping of Hands is a common practice
      -15 MILLION dead black people

  • @wmdragonj
    @wmdragonj Před 5 lety

    Would love it if you tackled 30K/40K Warhammer space marines.

  • @dylanwight5764
    @dylanwight5764 Před 5 lety

    When your mother picks you up from school and tells you she needs to get a few things from the store on the way home: "i want this mission high and tight. I want to be home for dinner."

  • @danieladamczyk4024
    @danieladamczyk4024 Před 5 lety +1

    Remember that soldiers didn't make A bomb.

  • @zacksilverstone7642
    @zacksilverstone7642 Před 5 lety +1

    I think the humans need an actual tactical technician that knows their way around. The chief from the movie is more of a military instructor rather than an actual tactician. I believe THIS is why they lose in the movie.
    "When all things seems lost, hope come from an unexpected place, from an unexpected person, with an unexpected plan."
    Quote from Silver Stone, RIP to the Original.
    Another one?
    " It only takes one, to lead us all. It only takes one, to break us apart.
    IT. ONLY. TAKES. ONE."
    Quote from the same guy as the above.

  • @spaceman081447
    @spaceman081447 Před 4 lety

    At 8:46, ". . . intergalactic war . . . " Four light years away from Earth is not even close to intergalactic distances.

  • @Nonexister1
    @Nonexister1 Před 5 lety

    Love the series so far but ejector seats are generally only installed in single pilot fighters. The act off firing a rocket tends to burn those around them.

  • @davidlink3787
    @davidlink3787 Před 5 lety +2

    Sneering Imperialist mode engaged. if you want to deal with uncultured blue barbarians who are in your way, don't give them a chance to engage you, just drop rocks on them from orbit. Sneering Imperialist mode disengaged.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 Před 5 lety

      That would mean LOSING ALL THAT RESOURCES AND GREEN MOONAY!!!

  • @torinjones3221
    @torinjones3221 Před 5 lety

    I was wondering if your gonna do the Coalition of ordered governments Gears. Since they are sci-fi they're just no from earth nor are they actually fighting aliens. Well unless they did in fact come from one of Sera's moons

  • @ClearGrit
    @ClearGrit Před 5 lety +2

    Tree F%ckers Is the best insult

  • @oscardighton8580
    @oscardighton8580 Před 5 lety

    When you review the imperial guard?

  • @andrewk.l1887
    @andrewk.l1887 Před 4 lety

    There's a space soldier circling around uranus, probing it to keep your ass safe. Fuck it got me.

  • @basemaus3728
    @basemaus3728 Před 5 lety +26

    wait a second, is this a scientific analysis or just propaganda for the secops?
    it definitly is propaganda, but alright humanity first

    • @shagnasty9028
      @shagnasty9028 Před 5 lety

      There's even an air force ad on this vid... I see whats goin on here

  • @sovietman0529
    @sovietman0529 Před 5 lety

    hello i like this series

  • @LucefieD
    @LucefieD Před 5 lety

    On a real note though I was totally pulling for the marines in Avatar lol

  • @owenwildish331
    @owenwildish331 Před 5 lety

    oh maybe you could do a battle royal type thing when you're done with these flaws and advantages videos (hopefully not too soon) and figure out which team wins overall?

  • @vladimirpootis3200
    @vladimirpootis3200 Před 4 lety +1

    Humanity first, everybody else never.

  • @jittersfpv6872
    @jittersfpv6872 Před 5 lety

    What about the marines from Space Above and Beyond..the 58??

  • @zjschulling
    @zjschulling Před 5 lety

    Really disappointed we didn't get an alternate ending featuring the humans flying overhead and mowing them down to the tune of fortunate son

  • @UncleMikeDrop
    @UncleMikeDrop Před 5 lety

    A nuclear strike would be a bad idea for them even if they had permission because they're trying to obtain resources from Pandora. As a space faring organization, their best option would be to use a heavy mass driver from high orbit. A single heavy projectile could have oblliterated home tree and left no fallout to interfere with the mining operation. I also wonder why they weren't able to get human volunteers for gene therapies in order to acclimate the human body to Pandora's atmosphere.

  • @Ariana321
    @Ariana321 Před 5 lety

    11:45 That "Death of Hope" trailer footage...

  • @Phantom6.6.6
    @Phantom6.6.6 Před 5 lety

    Please do a video on star crafts terran marines

  • @miniaturejayhawk8702
    @miniaturejayhawk8702 Před 5 lety

    Avatar has a Videogame ?
    I WANNA PLAY IT !!!

  • @Irmarinen
    @Irmarinen Před 5 lety

    Can't wait for WH.

  • @scottbraun2457
    @scottbraun2457 Před 4 lety

    The biggest disadvantage here, is they're fighting an entire sentient biosphere, and when clued in by a defector, finally has had enough of the invaders. "Never piss off MOTHER NATURE".

  • @TheTrueMilkMK1
    @TheTrueMilkMK1 Před 5 lety

    How about the factions in planet side 2