Bikers need to STOP DOING THIS!!!
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- čas přidán 5. 01. 2023
- Bikers need to STOP DOING THIS!!! My biggest pet peeve I see on a regular basis is motorcycle riders that ride with their feet down at low speeds. It's dangerous, and it's a terrible habit that can be broken. As you start preparing for warmer weather, go out and practice your low speed maneuvering, and that includes popping your feet up on your footpegs or floorboards as soon as the motorcycle starts moving, and don't put them down unless the motorcycle comes to a complete stop.
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I constantly challenge myself to keep my feet on the pegs as long as possible. How slow can I go without having to put them down is the game. It's definitely something we should all practice. You'd be surprised how slow you can actually go without needing to put your feet down.
I do that as often as possible, just because the light is red doesn't mean my feet have to go down
@@jerlaine1638 Had a traffic cop book me for haveing my feet up stopped at a red light.
Dumbass watched me balance for a couple mins then decided to book me.
oHH. Its on bitch..
Had my day in court and go-pro vid showed him up as the ignorant prick he was. Judge decided he needed to have some re-education time lol.
Covered my court costs and a days lost wages.
Worked great, he went to dickhead cop kindergarten and I got a payed day off to ride 😏😎
100%. The "Slow roll" balancing game is a good one to play at lights.
That's always been the game. I like a perfect balance at a four way stop. Makes you look like a pro
We practice with "slow races" when we are waiting for others.
Absolutely 100% agree with you. I moved from a VROD to a Road Glide 1 year ago and I watched everything I could about it as I've never ridden one when it got delivered. But I knew I wanted it. And the biggest thing I learned was - if the bikes moving, get your damn feet up. Never drag them. And I promise you, it is 100% better. Yes, it took me a few months to get used to a much larger, heavier bike. But I love it. And your dinky legs are not going to hold up the bike. If it leans, it's gonna fall. Let it fall, pick it up and keep riding. But your 1 leg is not going to hold up 1000 pounds guys. Thanks for the reminder
What he said - please stop, don't drag / hang your feet off the boards when you're running slow. Now I will say that Main Street during Daytona Bike Week in March shows the worst of the worst skills. All of us snowbound Yankees pull our bikes down to the warm FLA weather and many haven't touched their bikes in 4 to 6 months. And many get hopped up and crack that throttle right out of the gate. Most forget that riding an MC is a perishable skill and that's obvious during Daytona bike week. I've seen more crashes during that rally than any other rally.
I live in new Orleans Louisiana and I still go take a ride to find a empty parking lot to practice slow motion movements
Wisely spoken, and explained well. Even in my first year of riding motorcycles (1971) I wondered why some of the dudes take off at the green light, outriggers out, and then dragging their boot tips behind them for half a mile. One of the manuals that came with a motorcycle worded it well also: "Your ankles are a very complicated construction. Protect them."
Thanks Monkey, this was drilled into me 45 years ago and i've never forgotten , but i see people doing it all the time .
When I first got in the trades and old timer told me once " never underestimate the difference between 30 yrs of experience and 1 yr of experience 30 times" you always gotta be workin at getting better
Both feet off, front break, front end dumps, off balance stops.
I've tried doing the foot drag, and it just feels weird to me. I guess that I've developed a good practice through the fact that I find the bad habit uncomfortable.
Once saw an Old Biker Gift a Young Rider one year a set of Training Wheels for a Bicycle and told him to put those on his bike until he could learn to drive it
As a beginner rider ( started in July of 2022 ), I totally agree. I find the bike easier to control with both feet up and on the pegs or floorboards. Before knowing better, I did this a little. It didn't take me long to realize it was making me more unbalanced so I quickly quit doing it and never really picked it up as habit.
Look up Ride like a pro Jerry Palladino on YT.
That is funny because there is a local sheriff motorcycle patrol in my area that I see on a regular basis that drags his feet at highway speeds.
I rode mini bikes, and dirt bikes as a kid and when I was finally old enough ta get a license(1976)the instructor asked how long I had been riding? Said: you did everything great but... get your feet on the pegs! I still remember. I also practice slow ride, even took 2nd at a Rodeo once. lol Being from St Louis do you remember "Humpin to Please"?
Definitely one of my pet peeves. I use to see it all the time in downtown Chicago. I'm sure there are legit safety concerns as you mentioned, but to me it just looked lazy and amateurish.
Also, if I'm on my way to or from the gun range or liquor store on a Saturday or Sunday morning, there are a ton of large empty parking lots available and it never hurts to take a minute or two to dive into one and crank out some figure-eights. 👍
Thank you! This is one of my major pet peeves when I see people doing this. When I'm coming to a stop my bike stops moving before my feet come off the pegs and when it's time to start moving again my feet come up as the bike starts moving I watch people constantly at slow speeds dragging their feet and it drives me freaking insane!!
Exactly!
Still have a few months up here. Been keeping the snow shoveled away from the shop for easier access.. great time for thorough maintenance thorough.
Thanks for the reminder. Just got back. Pretty rusty.
Slow speed riding skills are absolutely essential to riding big bikes. Also, the bikes wheels act as two gyroscopes. Above 5-7 miles per hour, the bike WANTS to stay up.... Plus, during slow speed maneuvers you WANT to ride the clutch and the rear brake, it acts to help keep the bike UP. You can also shift yer a$$ in the seat to help counter steer. It's just practice,practice,practice... Ankles and knees are NOT designed as landing gear.... My .02 cents.....
Worse is walking the horse…coming to a stop or taking off slow…
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I agree with you about the feet. I've given up on trying to explain to people why it's stupid.
People saying there are no hills or curves in Florida is another thing that needs to stop.
People that say that, clearly have not explored the state. 🤦♂️
I have never been a foot dragger but I have been riding for 40 plus years and found a lot of help from taking a riding course with Jerry. I have always wanted to whip a bagger around like you see on the police rodeos. Not that good yet but I am a hell of a lot better at slow speed maneuvers
I can't tell you how many times I've said out loud "pick your damn feet up" watching someone do exactly what you are describing.
That style of riding is highly recommended by shoe repair shops and shoe stores😂🤣😂
LOVE THIS VIDEO! It needs to be said. Foot draggers drive me nuts. Also, kudos for talking about taking a riding class. I've been riding almost 50 years (fuck I'm old!), I'm a daily rider, but I still take riding classes every decade or so just to knock the stupid habits I formed out of my head. I learned to ride as a kid and my Dad taught me. He was an NYPD Motorcycle cop. His first lesson was, "Any asshole can hold onto a bike at 70. A rider does it at 5." That's so true and a great reason to take riding classes every now and then to remember that and ace those skills again. Thanks again for a great video.
I was told this by numerous professional, L.E. motor officers "once the bike is moving your feet are on the boards". THANKS P-MONK!
I stopped riding several years ago. I raised 2 kids to high school graduation, before I got me another bike a little over a year ago. It did not take me long ( about 20 ft out of the driveway) to realize that all of my riding skills had rusted away. In most cases I don't drag my feet. Unfortunately we all have these people who want to creep up on a stop light. Well that's when I am guilty of dragging my feet. Those people in my area will open up 2 to 2 and 1/2 car lengths between me and them, and I'll drag soles while taking up the gap. Otherwise I try my best to not do it any other time.
I’ve seen this so many times. Crusty old grey beards that look as if they have been riding for decades until you see them hanging their feet while moving slowly.
I cringe when I see people dragging their feet.... I grew up on dirt bikes and learned that lesson real quick!
Absolutely Correct!!!... Thank you... Happy New Year... From Glendale Arizona...
Good video, glad you came back to this. My bikes are in an insulated garage finally, up here on the frozen tundra, for the first winter ever... they are happier. Next a work table for one so I can tinker the hell out of em.
I blame it on people wanting to be "One of the cool guys" by copying Superbike racers who put both feet down on the cooldown lap after the checkered flag.
I love practicing my slow speed skills! Watched a lot of Robert Simmons and Motoman vids and really enjoy it 👍
The feet down is how we spot the noobs.
Picked up my Street Glide back in October and before that, it was two years since I've ridden due to moving and life. I've been riding every opportunity I can get out since then and every time I go out, I pop into an empty parking lot at some point during the ride and practice my slow maneuvers because it's always a good skill to improve. I'm always looking for ways to learn something that will help me keep the rubber side down and me in the saddle.
Stef from Toronto here. I dragged feat for 20 years. Totally stopped that over the last couple of years as I train slow speed maneuvers
Agree. It serves no purpose other than cause a potentially hazardous situation. Additionally, it further delays your time to get to the rear brake.
I always try to keep my feet up. When stopping I keep my right foot on the brake and plant my left foot. I don’t care if I’m just sitting in traffic and only moving 5 foot forward, my feet are on the floorboards.
Great advice I agree with you I practice to get better. Great video have a great week 👊👊👍👍👍
Fantastic! I am guilty and have never really thought about it. I appreciate bringing awareness.
Glad it was helpful!
Good information, practice your slow rolling a must
"You can do something wrong for twenty-five years"..Great statement dude! As a sporty bike rider for thirty-plus years, I have been to probably a dozen track day instructional classes. I learn something new from every single instructor because none of us think the same. You and I live in different worlds on similar vehicles, I really like your videos because it gives me a glimpse into a subculture of motorcycling that I know nothing about. Keep up the good work!
👍thank you. Keep up the great work. I have ridden with guy's that wear out a set of boots before Tyers.
LOL Foot Draggers. I spot them in videos too. I remember watching, I think, Cycle World on Sunday afternoons late 60s early 70s, They'd always end the show with "Keep your feet on the pegs" 7 points of contact hands, feet, ass, knees
Great advice, feet down are an anchor ready to be ripped off
Riders don’t practice slow riding. You can practice by seeing how long you can keep you feet on the pegs or boards when coming to a stop. Practice, practice, practice!
I took MSF course when I was 19 and I learned so much. I’ve recently switched from a ‘21 KTM SMC-R to a road king which weighs about 650lbs more. Whole other set of skills. I didn’t need a back brake on the smc-r. Grab the front brake of a road king at 15 mph while the bars are turned and see what happens. Who would have thought the “slow bikes” would have taught me to ride the right way.
great advise !
I have ridden for decades, and have often left my feet dragging. Not because I think I need my feet to help me do anything... I just like it. It's like letting my foot trail in the water when going slow in a boat. I don't think, "if the boat sinks, I'm already halfway in the water!" I just like how it feels.
But, a few years ago I left a gas pump without picking my right foot up. I wasn't watching closely enough, and found out that "curb" bumped out a bit at the end of the isle. The curb caught my toe and dragged it backwards, which wouldn't have been a problem if I didn't have rear crashbars right in front of my saddle bags. The crashbar made sure my ankle kept moving forwards, but the curb made sure my toe DID NOT move forwards. It stretched my foot away and back in a way that it was never designed to do. I didn't break anything, but it was "tender" for about 3 weeks. I consider myself lucky. Now, no matter how much I enjoy the "foot dragging" fun, I don't do it.
Call it lesson learned.
My cousin is a Motor officer and they train to instantly raise your feet to the boards. Cause he says he can’t explain it it but the road becomes like Velcro and you feet can stick to the pavement and then bad things happen.
Bought my second bike 2 years ago, (my first bike was 40 years ago, had it for 6 weeks, got T-boned and Haven’t ridden since the crash…) have now done 30,000 fresh kms (Ontario, Canada) and still feel like a noob. I have more seat time than many of my biker buddies but they think “Years” makes their experience supersede my seat time. I always listen to any advice given from them. NEVER do I drag my feet and I practice (almost) EVERY time I go out. 5 - 10 mins in a parking lot before or after highway rides.. After 2 years I am at about a 22’ u-turn targeting 18’ this year on my 2016, 915 lb full bagger Road Glide Ultra… Looking forward to May when the weather warms up enough to start practicing again!! Great advice, wish more would listen!!!
Seriously great advice. Practice is always good 👍
New to your channel. Great stuff. Re-rider here (rode many moons ago, jumped off for 15yrs & just got back in the saddle). Thanks for doing these vids man, it's good learning material.
Welcome back!
Oh man.....I have always preached this. Been riding sportbikes most of my life and bashed other riders for the same thing. Great to hear and put it out there!!
I couldn't even think of what you meant before you actually showed it lol never even thought to have my feet like that, wow
This is very true. Thanks for posting
I like your description of the roads in Florida. 100% spot on!
45 in St. Louis today, rode for two hours with both feet up!✌️❤️🎣
Absolutely can’t agree anymore. Thanks for the reminder.
Good rant! Thank you. The foot dragging drives me nuts, just like bad form in the gym and the shooting range.
Good point!👍
That’s one of my pet peeves when I see some one riding slow dragging their feet especially on the highway when it’s bumper to bumper
And I find it actually funny that you put this video out because I was considering doing a video on this topic just a few days ago.
Great minds!
I agree I was an instructor for 4 years I have yelled at many classes" put your feet up" I am a big fan of doing parking lot practice hone those skills.
So true, rode for years self taught from my Dad. Moved to California, took a course to get legal, and because of that course, I'm alive.
Do a course, learn the emergency and riding maneuvers. This may save your life one day!
I’m so glad you made this video, I’ve been bitching about this for years, and my wife even said, “that sounds like you” pick your damn feet up!
That's embarrassing man. My right foot never leaves my foot board and brake even slow rolling in a parking lot!
Ha. Finally made it to Sturgis last year. I saw a whole lot of extended outriggers. You could almost hear the shoes scraping. Every intersection in every town. Deadwood, Custer, spearfish, rapid city, Sundance. Everywhere. Not gonna lie I did it from time to time and had to consciously retrain my brain and bring myself back out of it. All the stop signs and stoplights and the constant fear of the overzealous cops. It's hot as balls. Traffic just crawls. No breeze. Full sun. Its frustrating. Maybe you're tired, thirsty and hungry, too. You're looking around praying for a parking spot (Deadwood) that never appears. You just got cut off from your buddies in town so you're going through scenarios in your head about where they went or where you should go. I bet you if you could film anybody for long enough under those conditions, you're gonna catch them dropping their hooves sooner or later. It's just important to realize it sooner than later and re correct yourself.
None of that has anything to do with riding and controlling your motorcycle, correctly. Since there is ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFIT to dragging your feet, there is no reason any person should do it. It doesn't make riding easier, it doesn't help in any way. Whether you're tired, frustrated, hot, cold, mad, happy, lots of traffic, no traffic, or any other situation, ever.
It's like saying when I'm feeling a certain way, sitting in traffic, my A/C isn't working, I can't find a parking space, and my wife just left me, I open the door and stick my foot out.
AND, if you’re dragging your feet, you’re only using the front brake. Front brake only can put you down very quickly in some slow riding situations.
Congrats on 80K!! My favorite you tube channel!!! Keep up the great work!!
Wow, thanks!
I do the same every spring with the fig 8’s and low speed maneuvers.
Thank you. I have told my sons this. But what kid listens to their parents.
Well said. Thanks for posting this. I took the basic riders course in 2016 ND I been riding since 1986. Can always keep learning.
Well said!
Spot on! Thanks for the vid, this is something I tell people all the time as well.
Thanks for watching!
12 year riding academy coach from Michigan. 100% agree. if the bike is moving at a walking speed or above, it is trying to balance itself. Get your feet up on the footrests. Basic Rider course has several chances to get this concept into new riders' heads.
I see it a lot with small scooter riders and it bugs the crap out of me. Even on a small, lightweight machine, your foot catches a rock or a crack in the pavement wrong and you are going to damage your foot or ankle and probably end up going down.
Also agree on the importance of dusting off your skills in a "safe" environment before you go play in traffic if you haven't ridden in a few months.
popping those feet up will make you a much better rider. Keeping those feet down, well if you ever get a foot caught under a footrest will break an ankle at best and maybe a leg or worse. Keep em up....down on stop and up when moving. Great tip on finding a vacant parking lot and practicing.
Great advise! You are so right it needs to stop being done.
Exactly!
Ultimately it comes down to training, most people don't have anywhere near enough and would benefit from a parking lot class or two. A local instructor said if you have 25 years of experience and no training then you have 1 year of experience repeated 25 times.
Thanks for your advice, I haven't been riding motorcycles for a long time now but I'll probably be getting back in the saddle and I'll remember what you said, and yes I also subscribed to your channel 👍
Mark from lowell ma.
love ya videos and most important learn ya friction zone on the clutch. helps with the feet from touching ground.
Video was in my recommended, so I decided to watch! Glad I did. Subscribed. I've rode bikes since I was 16, but it was only a few times here or there through the years. I've now been a consistent rider for about 5 years now and I'm always open to learning how to ride properly! Great video man!
Great video and happy New Years good sir. I couldn’t agree more with this. It’s just asking for something to happen I feel.
I wholeheartedly agree. I practice 'slow racing' in stop and go traffic, it drives the four wheelers nuts though. You don't have to be in a parking lot to practice everything. However, it's best to start there. Great video. Thanks!
Been riding since I was a kid. Every winter is shut down from Nov 1st to mid April at best. I go on vacation or rent a bike while traveling for work to get some seat time in the long dark Alaskan winter. I watched the Jerry and Robert vids religiously before riding the twisties in Maui. Preloading, trusting the centrifugal force, working the clutch and back brakes in slow turns kept me off the rocks and out of the ocean on the Cliffside.
Iron mountain was an awesome ride!!! and so much better by keeping control under power and not fighting the bike. I'm 6'2" 320 lbs and I can't benchpress a bagger if hard pressed in a tight turn. Learning never ends, practice is never over. keep the relationship with your ride fresh!
One tight turn uphill on an Indian Pursuit in the gravel.... grabbed the front brake... and was catapulted off when it over on the guards. Nothing hurt but my pride and jeans, but I learned!!!
You were lucky to not get hurt!!!
My bikes up for the season due to a destroyed primary/clutch gearing and shaft...I also as the season resumes go to the local parking lot where they hold rider classes and put some skills time on before I go on any long rides
So True, i as you know have been riding since i was 5 years old, and i have ridden and raced all sorts of motorcycle and little over 25 years into my riding experience i was a member of the Seacoast HOG chapter in 1992 and the chapter needed a certain number of Member to take the Beginner Riders Class with the MSF to get an Award for the Chapter, so i went thinking what are they going to teach me............They Taught me i didn't have a Clue How to Ride, and i was So Impressed with what they taught i then took the intermediate class, and the Advanced class and the class at Loudon Raceway the Penguin Racing School, i became an MSF Coach and a Harley Riders Edge Instructor, my job at a service manager kept me from teaching many classes but i still loved it, and in 2023 i will have 59 years in the Saddle and a Friend is an instructor for the Pro Rider Class Police riding coarse and i am hoping to take it in 2023 (was supposed to in 2022 but my bikes were in the shop most of the summer) I'm a Strong believer in Rider Education and learning NOT TO CRASH !!
How safe is one trying to ride a motorcycle like it's a lazy boy recliner ? 🤔🙄
Absolutely 1,000,000% agree! I see that a lot over here in AZ as well.
So true! As stated practice it and break that bad habit! Thanks!
Amen!!!!!! Drives me fn crazy seeing riders do this!!!
very good point
I'm dusting mine off here in NC on Wednesday
I caught the toe of my boot (the sole part) in a crack in the pavement and it almost took my leg off. From then on I never put my feet down until I'm just about stopped.
I fully agree with you on this point.
Glad someone else called this out.
I shattered my knee in a dirt incident a bunch of years back and have lost a lot of strength in that leg. Getting back aboard after a few years away took a little empty carpark practice, but def needed to reset those habits built over decades.
I clocked over the 60yrs mark, only 160lb ringing wet so i need every bit of leverage i can muster. feet on the pegs give that extra. Never drag my feet.
Plus it looks goofy as F.
Kind of a point of pride to have my feet up within an inch or so of movement, and down at dead stop.
Duck walking in inching traffic instead of constant working the clutch is a different story.
I do the same thing in a local parking lot. Practice u turns and figure 8’s as slow as I can. Makes feel smarter anyway lol
Learned that the hard way only had the front brake just set it down but still had to pick it up
I rode with a rc for a few years an there was a couple guys that would leave their feet down till it was time to shift into 2nd drove me nuts.. my dad always drilled it into my head at a young age to get your feet up as quick as possible
Totally solid facts!!!
Good video... I also cruise around and reacquaint myself with my bike before riding season starts :-)