Motorcycle Club Clubhouse Etiquette - Don't do what I did!
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- čas přidán 22. 09. 2022
- I once made a huge mistake in protocol and etiquette at a motorcycle club clubhouse. If you are ever invited to an open house or event at an MCs clubhouse, there are rules to follow, some aren't obvious. This one might not be obvious, but it's a biggie.
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Excellent points made. I had a situation a few years ago that could have been bad. My girlfriend and I were at a local bar that would have bike night every week. After we parked our bikes and were walking to the bar, there were some 1%'s in the parking lot and their women were polishing their bikes as they stood there drinking beer. As we were walking by my girlfriend blurts out, that's ridiculous. Very quickly I was like never mind, that's none of our business. Thankfully no one heard her, I had to explain to her that they live by different rules than we do.
It may have been a misstep but you may have saved alot more grief coming from the 1% club hosting the gathering of a Lost brother. JMO. Respect
I used to ride with a bike club, and very often tests are planned for prospects to test their responses to certain situations - this often involves starting skirmishes out of nowhere, but it’s usually between bike club members, never usually the public (unless provoked) - it sounds like these guys were testing your reactions to that certain situation
I guess mistake or not you did the right thing. This world is already way too cold and indifferent. Friends should look out for each other. Great content, keep up the good work! I’m not a rider but enjoy watching your videos. Pretty cool, informative and you seem to be a cool dude to have a beer with!✌️
Hey man, I've followed the channel for quite a while now. Love it. I like that you can Fuck up and own it. You could have kept that nugget of information to yourself and no one would be the wiser, but you shared it for the knowledge to everyone. Thanks!
"Would you guys walk outside and finish this discussion? Were at a funeral." Only thing you can do ....been there
It was this type of video that brought me to your channel over a year ago. Been here ever since! Keep it up!
Awesome! Thank you!
Recently had one of your videos recommended to me and while I’ve mainly been watching these videos I look forward to getting into your builds and other videos. Genuinely enjoying your content brother, ride safe, and thanks for everything you and your organization does 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Great piece of information right there. So glad you shared. You are right. What we would normally do as a so called “civilian” doesn’t fly in a club scene. It’s a different world. 👍
I did not know that. Not to that extent. Good to know. Appreciate the knowledge as always.
Now you know how good of friends you have.
I made the worst mistake ever when I opened the front door of the club house during a party at a 1% club. I went outside and got something out of my bike and instead of going to the back door like i should of i went to the front door and walked in. The door should of been locked but it wasnt wheni walked in the whole room stopped and looked at me it was the most akward moment in my life! Thankfully i was friend with a lot of the members and the P was a very close friend of mine.
Great advice. I was in a similar situation about 45 yrs ago following a funeral for two Brothers of a local club lost in a firefight. I was invited to the clubhouse and got a painful lesson from guys (patch holders) that I knew pretty well. I spoke to one a few weeks later and he let me know no was harm done, that emotions were high that night (obviously), but I learned a valuable lesson - Don't make waves and if necessary leave the situation completely.
Good Advice. That's my brother, my family, we work out our own shit. don't interfere. Much respect.
I appreciate the wisdom. I could definitely see myself getting on the wrong side of something like that.
I miss the days of fighting from my youth. Sound stupid? I've lost teeth, had blackened eyes and my nose broke. I've done the same to brothers and mutual assholes. But once the fight was done, if I lost- when I could stand and see I stepped to the bar and bought the other guy a drink. And I have had drinks bought for me. Few people have respect that runs that deep.
You were lucky and your friends are just that, Thank You for sharing.
You are in my prayers
Hoka Hey
Love people who can admit their mistakes especially publicly! Nice TJ.
I made a mistake with a local dominate in a phone conversation.
I mentioned a member, not by name but a town where my other house is and we both frequent the same bar.
He immediately said “shut up! Too much on the phone!”
So it was a learning lesson for me that day.
It can happen and as an outsider I think everyone has made a misstep once.
Great vid - thanks
That's a good one also. Text and phone is a no no.
I hope that you and your family are safe. Sending prayers.
Best advice ever! Remember who you are and know your place.
Woah conflicting! You're friends but they are brothers. 💯 natural reaction but 💯 never get in brothers business. Sad but true.
Thanks for sharing. I would have done the same and good to know it is a no no in that situation.
Love this story. Thank you for sharing
I was at a clubhouse open house steak cookout. I was half in the bag and talking loudly and cousin up a storm, not aware of my surroundings. This old timer with his color's on called me out all red faced and ripped me a new ass!!!! My granddaughter is over there. 😮 I apologized up and down big time! Luckily, it worked out, and I didn't get my ass kicked. I'll always pay attention from now on at an MC club of who's around me .
this is a year old.......how did i miss it ? in Real Life i'm the Quiet guy (why i watch your video's and not make them lol) out in the real world i have broken up fights, but clubhouse that isn't mine.........i just sit quietly and mind my own business, When i was the VP of a support club i went to a Mens night put on by our parent club, i grabbed a coffee and a seat and thought i would be fine, till a couple of the girls came over and started doing things on the table i was sitting at, and i politely said i was Happily married and staying that way, and they went elsewhere LOL but to this day there are things i never talk about even with friends cause i know subjects they are not into getting into, and i have always respected that space with people and while some think it's weird i'm quiet, some think i'm stuck up or just an asshole but those really close to me respect that i respect their space.
Cool story bro! You nailed it, let them do them
I can see you doing that. That story is life in general. As long as it's not in my shop(things could get broke/ neighbors could call the cops) not my deal.
Mine was loosing a big poker hand and messing around because everyone was drunk I made the mistake of flipping him off in fun saying you kicked my ass. Let's say I'll never do anything like that again. Certain ways you can talk to close friends and it's different when you get around the dudes that don't play them games. Everyone knew I was kidding so they saved me but then I had to go. I was invited back a month later. Wheww
Yes, you were wrong to get into their business. You could have very well saved their butts though. By them forgetting for a moment their issue with each other and turning on you, it gave them a moment to think about what was going on, and could have very well prevented problems with the 1% club. The ends may have very well justified the means, so to speak.
I've been in a similar situation before, but it's always been with guys within my group. I have got in between two guys before, knowing that they would likely get mad at me, but I diffused the situation to where it didn't get out of hand. Sometimes you need to be the one to take the heat for the greater good.
I agree! If they had got into an altercation they most likely would be glad he at least tried to stop it. Sorry but I just couldn't call people friend if they acted that way towards me. Better have him break it up than have that club on your ass for disrespecting their funeral with an altercation.
Great videos man
Yeah, I get it.. protocols. But the real breach of protocol was your "friends" disrupting and disrespecting a memorial gathering at which they were guests. You stepped up, and may have prevented other issues. Had the gathering been at THEIR OWN clubhouse or location well O.K. then, but it wasn't. Considering their lack of self control and how these brothers treat each other, and quickly turned on you, I wouldn't be exposing myself to that likelihood ever again. I think their idea of friendship may be different than yours.
I think an MC club might look at what you did as a positive showing some huge courage
That's what you would do in the "normal" world? Interesting perspective.
I think you did the right thing in stepping in.It would of look bad your buds starting a fight in
someone else house.Your ownly fault is you cared enough to step in.
Yup at least you knew your mistake , good on you , glad you didn't get yourself schooled the hard way , regular folks think differently , you were being regular folk , hard to seperate the two , glad you saw the mistake .
Nope , I disagreed with you for one point . If they would have gotten into it with eachother the 1% club may have seen that as a disrespect and being they were in mourning they may have stabbed or shot one or both of your friends . You went with your heart that may have saved their lives
You're not wrong for sure. Starting crap during their mourning could have been seen as an an offence.
You're right I'd rather let them cap each other. And decrease the population 🤙🏼🤙🏼
@@gilbertmal6033 yeah. So let my friends kill each other? I feel like you aren’t a fit for this channel and should find entertainment elsewhere.
Sounds like you were being a good friend to both of your friends.
This is one of those things that's easily forgiven. I'm in a large 1%er club and if they would have done this at one of our funerals, it would been bad for those two and honestly you would have came out a hero in the situation. I can just imagine the consequences.
That's a hard isntict to keep in line. Spend most of your life keeping friends from fighting and when you're in their world you gotta ignore it.
Great story. People need to hear that. It will help keep them safe in tge real world! Stay safe. Alaska out hunting!
Humm that's a strange friendship. Sounds like you are not REALLY a friend unless you wear their patch. Even though it went against protocol your heart was in the right place. I think that you trying to prevent an altercation is better than how they would have looked if they had actually got physical. Think of the repercussions if that dominant club had seen them get physical.
Life lessons and respect, have a nice day
Clubhouse Funerals.
Bring a cheap cooler filled with cold beers and give it to the club.
Speak to those you know, and share your sorry for the loss.
Leave afterwards.
Yes, you were invited, but the fact is there is always an attitude of "Your not one of us."
The longer you hang out, the less likely your going to leave in good standings.
Sounds like Miners Site bar in the Early 80s Kalgoorlie West Australia
If people think you are weak they will think they can run their mouth
Totally get why you did it, but yeah, that's a hard no in the club world. However I gotta ask about the Marshall in the background. Is that the mini fridge Marshall? If so Fuckin awesome. I want one of those.
Its the fridge, yep! Wife got that for me.
Great story, well told.
Thanks for listening
Good vid bro
Glad you enjoyed
Great info thanks, Ive been to club drink nights, i just treat it the same as if i went to a strangers home, take off your sunglasses, Introduce yourself, im not opening doors or drawers i have no business in, and if their club Logo is on the bartop dont set anything on top of it ! Mainly its just being respectful
Lol. Yep, but you learned. NEVER get between club members fighting. I had to stop a non patch biker from interfering with two of my club brothers fighting one time. He was heading that way and I got in his way and told him to stop and not even think about it.
somebody could have gotten stabbed or shot if they actually started fighting. then the police would have gotten involved. your heart was in the right place. glad no one got hurt.
Hello sir I saw a guy in Cuba wearing the cut of a large reputable club at a bar I'm just wondering the logistics of this in a country such as that I heard there is a club culture there thx
I’ve held back a brother 4 times. Twice at the Chip this year. A brother your ok but never a non. And if it goes down you back brother no matter if right or wrong.
You seem like a really good dude.
I try!
Sorry to be old school, but if your lad gets in a beef with another patch, it's between them and no-one else. If your lad gets a pasting, then be there for him, and the other lad if you're friends with them. It's a bit like rugby. It's handbags at 10 paces, but you let them get their beef out between them, and before long they'll be having a pint together.
Well...For all you know your interaction may well of prevented a fight or worse, nothing to feel bad about, you did what you thought was right, no one can take that away from you.
One thing about brothers its all good till it aint good....then its all good again.
But where does your friendship end & where does the patch membership starts with them. They should have taken it outside & off of the 1%er's property but in heat off the moment people don't think.
As long as it doesn't jeopardize your club, your friends club & the 1%er's then it's all good
May I suggest that if you go out and comeback standing at the door, and say 'there is an oil leak all over the pavement', both advisories would be please to lend a hand to tother - and you can say - see - I knew you two could be pals !
Stuff happens but I think you meant well and if you didn't, you'd know it. The question I have is did they hold a grudge or was it like anyone that gets angry and let it roll off?
Oh it was gone minutes later like it had never happened.
I'm tryna figure out if I can wear my cut in a different clubhouse
So really they're not good friends
Yeah I made a comment at a biker bar suggesting a person quit harassing a girl and wow that could have really turned out badly. NO one had on colors but I was the new dummy and didn't remember to keep my mouth shut.
Got a club member that lives right across from me. One day some of his fellow club members come visit and are all standing in the yard. Well I was going for a ride and passed by the house. After a few mins of riding I have one of the members behind me at a stoplight. Light turns green he and flys past me on the right side and dodges between me and the car in front. I headed back home and he's back in the members yard laughing as I pass by. What was the deal with that?
He was just trying to get a rise out of you.
@@ProfessionalMonkey Gotcha, could have just gave me the finger. That would have been safer. Young kid blonde hair, must have given him a Jax Teller vibe lmao.
IMO those are the club members I can't stand. He probably saw you leave and told his brothers he was going to go mess with you, then he more or less laughs in your face about it when you return. Neither of which he would likely do if he were by himself, but he gets the "tough guy syndrome" when he knows he has backup . If I were one of his brothers I would have a talk to him about acting like that.
question if someone wants to open a new mc what are the steps to go through in organization and how to verify if a name is take ?
Contact the dominant 1% club in your area and ask.
I don’t get the club thing, but if that is what makes them happy so be it. However, if a club expects me to play etiquette games I ain’t playing. I am talking about if our paths cross. I would never go to a club to hang out.
You did what a lot of us would’ve done.
I get that it was the wrong move, in the wrong place, but a LOT of us would have committed that same Mortal Sin, and learned the same lesson.
Regardless, I’ll bet both of those dudes know why you stood up, won’t hold it against you.
I call few people “Brothers”, but as huge as some of them are, I’d never hesitate to jump in between them, and say (and I have) “If you hit me, you’ll kill me, and then you’ll have to deal with the Mrs., and it will suck to be you.”
(Don’t laugh too fast, because when the women get pissed off, I’ve seen the toughest men I’ve ever known, scatter.
Everyone knows;
“Happy Wife, Happy Life.”)
ya if its not your club its not your business. We are an MM and we even still have problems.
I have a question, I belong to a riding group that has ties to a men’s fraternal organization. We have the word “Sons” in our name and on our vests. This past week another group that has “Sons” in their name demanded that we not ride with our vests on because of that word. Our leadership has made the decision to require us to put our vests away and not ride with them on any more.
What are your thoughts?
It's a difficult one breaking a rule when you were jus trying to be a good man and good friend. Acting in the moment is a hard one
Bad position to be in. One of those damned of you do and get yelled at by your friends or damned if you don't and your friends get even worse spot with the 1% club by fighting at their Clubhouse in a time of mourning, Glad all went ok. Hell of a spot to be in for sure.
Thanks for the school.
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Brothers should never argue in public …. We never argue in public we do that shit in private …. You argue with a brother in public everyone thinks they can argue with a brother …. You weren’t wrong they were …. My opinion
WOW! "Your not one of us".
That's when you find knew friends.. they should have more respect at a funeral..
Well, there's always the other scenario. Getting in between a husband and wife and trying to cool things down and they both turn on you. All the uglies come out when fighting.
You...make mistakes!?!?! Now my image of you is tarnished... 😉 but I will say this... One of the top 5 rules of being a stand up guy... if you fuck up, own it. ...and last time I checked we all fuck up at some point.
IMO, a huge breach of etiquette is when I'm asked by GDIs (as the secretary of an MC), how many members are in my club. That's club business, and nobody else's.
The answer is always "enough."
@@ProfessionalMonkey Agreed, but the question itself is grating.
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Do you apologize for something like that? What happens after making a MC Faux Pas?
An apology goes a long way…
Lmao yeah brother you should have known better. You didn't get the brotherhood beat down so count yourself lucky.
I grow up in a 1% club and have seen everything from a beating to a dude set on fire, its definitely a different world.
You may have subconsciously understood the issue and subsequently the consequences that your friends could have suffered. Then getting into an altercation in another group clubhouse is definitely means for some sort of punishment.
Today there is a service for a club founding member. The impact this individual has had in the MC world is beyond measure.
They should have given you 20 lashes for the cardinal sin that you committed. Then the next offense, the death penalty
Top 20?, damn man you need to edit your freinds list, and you can start with your two "friends", in this story ....they have no respect at all for you, or the 1%ers at a wake ... But what do i know...
Eh. They’re my buddies. Club stuff is intense and hard to understand from the outside.
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Exact reason why I would never ride or associate myself with a club. Some of the biggest cry babies on the road and they all think their shit don't stink. But it's all laughable. Lol
Actually you did the right thing in intervening to stop a fight - says a lot about the decadent biker world.
If your friends get mad at you cause you tried to talk them out of fighting, they’re not actually friends.
I want to join a hog chapter but after watching some of the things one needs to do and not do, I’d be too afraid I would do the wrong thing now, totally unintentional. I just want to meet some new people, especially ones that have the same interests as I , motorcycles. Im too old to have to constantly watch my back, I would never mean any harm or disrespect to anyone. But after watching several of your videos, It sure doesn’t take much to do something wrong, totally unintentional.
you should be safe in a hog chapter riding group
They don’t sound like good friends
They are, I just broke a cardinal rule in the wrong place.
Having not been there and still in the learning process of what is and is not appropriate, it sounds like you had just two choices...both bad. Bad choice 1 was what you did. Bad choice 2 was to have done nothing and let those two suffer the consequences of getting into it in a clubhouse not their own. Said clubhouse was that of a 1% MC mourning the loss of a brother. From where I sit, admittedly very far removed, you chose well.
If stopping two people you care about from fighting is WRONG, maybe you folks should reevaluate your priorities. When a party foul is worse than stopping a fight, you need to reevaluate your sense of right and wrong, and what you're sacrificing to play by other's rules. No way to live, bowed down by choice.
These club stories are tough to listen to for me. I find they are just like every other apologist of every religion. Forcing arbitrary rules of behavior on members to enforce compliance within while "rebelling" against nothing. I have a tough enough time dealing with the "norms" I have no time for the motorcycle club mentality, the violence or the victimization of others.
So, why do I care what is tough for you? Ya know, you aren’t entitled to liking everything you hear. If it’s not for you, move on, stop being an entitled child.
Monkey. ….You have a very cocky attitude toward some of your supporters.
Isn’t what you said ironic? Bikers are by default persons who generally rebel against authority. To join a club with arbitrary rules seems to naturally rub a person who rebels against authority, in a wrong way. Especially when the arbitrary rules have zero logic 🤷🏽♂️
Sounds worse than gangs
Gangs you grow up in
Wait…leave your glasses down?
Yeah, you're supposed to look a man in the eyes, not with your shades down like some State Trooper.
@@roguecheddar gotcha, I wear glasses, was thinking shades, but wanted to be sure. Thanks for clarifying
FIND BETTER FRIENDS
Are they motorcycle clubs or motorcycle gangs?
Club.
Cool story,pics or it didn't happen!LOL
Yeah, pics in that situation would be a no go...
@@ProfessionalMonkey LOL!
My bad did not mean any disrespect
Huh? What did I miss?
@@ProfessionalMonkey nothing just put my foot in my mouth and got called on it .
My bad means FU.
Ride and mind yo business
This is nonsense. Why would you want to hang out with these people?
That's an ignorant ass rule
Bikers have there own rules don't get involved, my friend did he was a prospect for the Blue Angels, he said it wasn't for him