HiFi ROSE Streamers DESTROYS all others - Best HiFi Streamer award
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- čas přidán 2. 05. 2021
- Looking for a hifi network streamer, audiophile streamer, hifi streamer, music streamer that can play tidal, spotify, qobuz, youtube, etc all within your finger tips with a beautiful 4k display? High end audio does not have to ugly anymore !
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ROSE RS150: eng.hifirose.com/malllist/?idx=9
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Three Extra things:
1. Both units comes with basic plastic remotes that functions excellent
2. Both units can be used with Wifi and I never recommend Wifi on streamers BUT... Wifi or ethernet - both works equally well on these
3. I never say this but... I feel like these are probably the only streamers you will ever need... as of this video. You will be the first to know if I find something better but kinda hard to imagine one that's better than these streamers
I am really digging the production value of these vids. Also Kstyle bbq is so good!!
I have a LeEco lex626. Aluminum body, gorilla glass; waterproof; 4 GB ram, 64 GB storage;1920 pixel display; 21 mp camera; 10-core 2.3 GHz processor; USB-C; Runs games very well. was IIRC, $114.00 3.5 years ago. Otoh, it is a LeEco - no upgrades, not even sure they are still in business! See: www.giztop.com/leeco-le-s3-x626.html
I'm going to guess why these boxes cost what they do is because audiophiles are a distinct minority. Not enough volume to justify a thin margin. What I want is for Sony to put a very good DAC and streamer into the next PlayStation - one box to control them all, one box to find them. But I think I will have to be very very patient. :)
As I said in my comment below about one week ago... these things are like toasters, and they already have a new one coming out, the RS250! (they should have a comparison table on their website so one can quickly get through the marketing crap) I just cannot keep up with these custom computers in a box. But I am looking at their site now anyways.
You prolly dont care but if you guys are bored like me during the covid times you can stream pretty much all the new movies on instaflixxer. I've been streaming with my girlfriend for the last few days =)
@Beau Israel Yup, I've been watching on instaflixxer for months myself :)
I always find these comparisons even more interesting. Please make more of them. THANKS, bro!
Spent an hour doing audio room correction with spectrum frequency pulses. Huge difference now! Increased level of frequency that registered lower in-room response & lowered those frequencies that were dominant. Every room suffers from 'suck out' of some frequencies. How do you do a room correction?
Get an SPL meter and a graphic equalizer that will generate continuous spot pulses that you can measure in-room levels with your meter. Adjust all freqs to same SPL. The pay off is worth the effort.
Some modern equipment has room correction software and do automatically.
Hi,
Thanks for the great review.
Appears to be a contender for the Mytek Brooklyn Bridge II, which has a roon core. I'm waiting for its release and to read some reviews. Possibly you would consider reviewing it? Due for shipping in July 2021 and retailing for about $3500 USD, so in a similar price bracket to the Rose.
Cheers
What a good background of heritage, background, barbecue and good intro and overview into streamers. Thoroughly enjoyed!
How does the DAC in the RS150 compare to stand alone DACs? What does it compared or what level external DAC would one need to go to notice or justify adding a stand alone DAC to the RS150?
Thanks Jay. Great humour in here as usual 🙂 Interesting video too but I have already ordered my streamer. Nevermind that's hifi 😀
Quality of your review and the video quality is second to none!!!! Thank you from Denmark 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
Just got my Rose 150B last week. Love it. Great sound, everything works perfectly. Only issue is Albuquerque is spelled incorrectly on the clock/weather screen. I emailed Rose and received a prompt reply that the misspelling would be corrected. I was very impressed. Would I buy it again?.? In a heart beat.. My best. Dan. Albuquerque.
I noticed some differences on both displays. It seems de Rs 150 has a display with lower resolution. Both devices are displayed at my local dealer. Has anyone noticed that too?
I just bought the rose 150b. Stunning. I do not like streamer/dac combos and have been wrestling with what my digital front end will be for my much loves wilson Sabrina's. I have an lta ref2 pre and a codo continuum ts power amp with very hi end cabling. I'm now done. The speakers are now gone when I play music. I feel no flaw in the system and have finally reached the point where I now just listen to music, not my gear...
Extraordinary product. It is not the bartock or the mola mola, but is is shockingly good for the price. Easy easy easy to use and I didn't even need the manual to set it up....
Omg Jay! I came here because I have never heard of HiFi Rose, until this past weekend ,when I was ta my local hifi shop. And now my wife and I are going out on this Friday night to try a new Korean BBQ place that just opened up here in Colo Springs! I have been eyeballing it for a couple of weeks now, thanks for the push! Now I am getting an amp/streamer and dinner! LOL
Nice review on the ROSE 201E man, very advanced use of skeuomorphism to add some realism. I don't stream; I just need a good media player that can play FLAC from an external USB SSD. Question is, is there a limit on how many albums and audio tracks the RS201 will read? There are many units that claim for example 4TB of storage etc. but cannot actually read and catalog all the folders and files on an external SDD or HDD. Most importantly, how is the customer service /support for HiFi Rose products? The 4K video not really a big deal, Firesticks have been doing that for years; not elegantly but doing nonetheless. Any way I may have to start putting away some extra bucks, the more I read about this thing the more its starting to grow on me. I have an SMSL DP5 and I'm a bit disappointed with.
Also, if we would choose to play music from local SSD storage, would it generate album cover art from internet or it would appear blank or it would look for an art cover inside the folder where music is stored? Thank you!
LOVE the change up ... Yes man .. get outside =) ... will you do reviews of outdoor speaker systems? .. what makes them different?
Is this unit as good as a VPI Prime Turntable with a really good cartridge?
Hi, as I understand you can also play movies from local SSD storage, how do they appear, as a list or movie posters? Thanks.
as a lot of others have asked, does this unit have a full pre-amp inside, like a Cambridge Edge NQ? or is it just IC controlled volume, which as an audiophile, we will need separate pre-amp?
Hi.. Is there a pure streamer model without Dac chips? With a high quality USB Output?
Good video. I had a rose250 but one day the screen was suddenly frozen with rose logo and i couldn't reset it. It has no physical reset button to the fabric settings... So after communiting with the company, they couldnt' find a solutuion and offered to change the mainboard... Then i have read many similar complaints about the product. Now i have a new rose250 but i am afraid of facing the same problem again.
I have an Auralic mini, SMSL SU9 Dac, Cayin cs55a, audio physic classic 10s. Would the best musical upgrade be to change Dac for rme or qutest or trade in for the likes of hifi rose rs250 or maybe lumin d2, your input would be gratefully r
The transition sequence at 3.44 is absolute genius! Your writers must be costing you a fortune 🤑
If you buy from the company website, do you have to pay an import tariff as is required when buying from China above a certain price?
How about pairing buchardt a500 with Rose RS150 via XLR cable? Would it work fine?
How about the Rose RS 250 mid range Between those 2 which is around 1500 euros ? What would’ve be your opinion? Thank you and Greetings from Portugal. Fernando Almeida
Which preout level settings do I need to use on my RS150B? Currently I have it turned off. Does it depend on the type of amps or recievers? Is it safe to check one by one to see which one better? Thanks
I have to say this is one of the best reviews I have seen. Most people put me to sleep. I am about to sell my Blusound vault to buy this. love the display point & add my own SSD. Just wish it was a little cheaper.
Hi, Jay what is your honest opinion on the following two streamers which is better the Rose RS150 or the Ps Audio DirectStream Dac, I know you have reviewed both so I would like an informed opinion please .many thanks, Regards Marko.
How good is the dac in this unit? in Holo may leage?
Jay, nice review! And nice find. How good is the DAC?
Any chance you will review Michi X3 ?
Jay you should also check out the Auralic Altair G1 and G2 series streamer DACS/Pre-amps
Hey Jay. Is there an audio dealer in Canada tha you know of that caries the ROSE streamers?
Help me out...please tell me the best possible setup using my Dali rubicon 2 speakers...I'm presently using marantz model 40n, Rel T7x...class B to me sounds better than class D and I need ARC...I think I need more power do get the most out of these Dali rubicon 2 ...
Bulgogi-love it! Did you take Darko's jacket?
Our Hungarian ladies definitely do a fantastic job of HiFi video production! Top work all round! Gratulálok Rebeka 👍 🇭🇺 🎵 And great work on another storming review Jay, you give me great inspiration for my channel across the pond! 🇬🇧
Have you tried this as a preamp or just as a streamer? (sorry, I wasn't sure from the video)
Jay would these units benefit from a higher end DAC such as an MSB Discrete?
Great vid as usual. nice warm looking leather jacket, where's it from? Im looking for something like that for winter here in Canada.
Lol. Nice closing shot! Rose is advertising in every hi-fi and lifestyle mags here in France too. Strange to see such unknown brand going at a hefty price tag for their products. For music streaming purposes, going head to head price-wise against established lifestyle products such as Naim's Uniti Atom, Star or Nova... Even if specs are a little bit different... Would likely play safe and go with Naim and get a good amp "for free" on top!
Naim is probably the worst deal on the market. Sky rocket prices for what the brand offers in their products.
@@joaoroman9583 Do you other brand in mind that's better?
@@tommons7934 Lumin. Or Lindemann. Or Aurender.
thanks for keeping us up to date
I have just been watching this video and was just wondering is this a Roon Core? You didn't make that clear @6:18
Have you been able to use the 780 cd player?
Jay what’s the name of the streamer you bought? It’s from a Canadian company? Can’t find your video?
I'm throwing some love for the Weber Kettle! 👍🤜
Trying to decide between the Hifi Rose 150 and the Holo Audio May DAC. 1) what's the difference between the 150 and 150b? Just the DAC Chip? If I went with the Holo Audio, what streamer should I look at? Love the videos!
Picked up a 150 & matching CD drive. Impressed with build quality, software & functions need some work. For example, it can convert an analogue signal (such as from a turntable) to digital, then send that digital signal to an external DAC. But it won't let you save the digital track and replay it. Why it can't save & play the converted digital signal? Also, the Rose app has issues, like with double albums. Currently, the best workaround it to use Roon or other software. Rose has a forum to post questions, but they are not good at responding to posts. So a mixed bag.
IMHO, the first expensive streamer that presents a solid justification
Agree
Personally, I'm not sure. The screen seems to lag pretty bad when swiping @9:30. If that is the case it would definitely be a deal breaker for me.
I recently bought the RS150 and was curious if anyone else has noticable backlight bleed on their screen?
How good is the dac in this unit?
Very nice review! I have Rose rs 150 and is amazing.
Alex from Italy
Are you using a DAC and Preamp with it?
@@beslemeto no i use only amp with it
Was hoping for a critical comparative review, this is just a sales demo of the features it has, which was quite repetitive in places. How many different ways can one say the front panel screen looks beautiful. On paper looks like a great product but there's still so few reviews anywhere on the internet. My concern is most of money might be going towards the screen and features at the expense of sound quality. Love how this company have taken a risk and made a software based lifestyle product that might end up being audiophile too. Worried about the longevity though and whether software will be supported and if it might become obsolete. Plan to take a listen at my local dealer and compare it to some similar priced audiophile products.
Oo Gosh .. Sean needs to upgrade his camera kit to a 4K Camera.. I can see the grains nice and clear on his video 😉 😀
How do I purchase them in Canada?
So I got the the Rose RS250 and how in the heck to you get it to recognize a external hard drive? It has two USB ports USB 3 and another one USB Female end as you would see on printers. Just curious if a external drive can be used?
Is it formatted properly?
Where did you purchase the RS201? I've been looking for one with no success? Thanks.
You can buy direct from their website.
How about best streamer at $500 or so price point? Or best RasberryPi streamer? (With DAC included? )
Quick question. Because they don't have the Spotify app, does it actually affect the quality of sound by just beaming it with Spotify connect? Great Channel bruv! Followed.
Is there a difference in soundquality when exkluding the DAC?
Bought a RS250. Really like it. Easy to set it up. Nice community that care‘s. Greetings from Switzerland. :-)
Orchard Audio out of NJ has a Pecan Pi Ultra Streamer with a color 5" TFT touch screen display for $850. Warranty and service is in the USA too👍
except they're all sold out until later in the month
@@DustinDonohue yes, it's a very popular unit and like you mentioned, they will have more in a few weeks. Not any streamers that I can think of for $ 850 with a Touch screen, xlr and RCA outputs as well as a propietary built in DAC.
Does it has a dac, and pream inside?
It has a DAC,but will it compete against high end DAC like Holo May?I don't wanna be forced to buy an expensive DAC after purchasing this unit...
The competition is coming! You should take a look at the EverSolo DMP-A6 Streamer...
No 4k video but focused on music with a screen that looks a lot like the HiFi Rose !
And the price is a bargain ;-)
Hi J. I’m looking at audio lab 6000n as a streamer. Wanted to your input. My budget would be up to 2500$. Matching up with a Bryston BP26 and Totem winds. Any input would be appreciated
No reply because this kid is basically selling this stuff and making lots of money doing so indirectly.
Snake oil
Who is selling Rose products in Toronto area?
Seems like a great unit that offers things I don't need/want like MQA, airplay, etc, but as it's in the price point of other higher quality streamers, and the display a killer addition, seems like it could be a solid choice.
Well...I was excited until I see the price. 😵 Looks like it will be a Bluesound Node 2i and my Anedio D2 Dac,, for me.....
I would give you 2 thumbs up if I could. One for the BBQ + 2nd for the audio review
Did you use it as a preamp?
Are you going to look at the dmp-a6?
A feature that the Rose streamer obviously does not offer is room correction. So I will keep my Linn Selekt which is a Pre, Streamer, DAC and does room correction. Room correction has a much bigger impact on sound as exchanging a DAC.
At the moment I am back to using my linn cd players and cd's, since 10 months of streaming my newly bought streaming player is now unusable and the app is out of date and not firmware upgradable. This was a total waste of my money. My linn genki's I am now using at this moment, using the variable volume output into my 2 1997 avi S2000MI for mids and treble, one amp per speaker, and my late model dual monoblock 1994 serviced restek challenger for bass duty into my late and last model monitor audio gold reference GR20's. Even the genki beats the now defunked tidal streaming player and with the genki's older burr brown dac and HDCD capability.
What you want is the NAD M33 that has Dirac Live and does streaming/DAC decoding and amplification all really really well.
Nice! Combining my 2 hobbies of audio and BBQ!
Doc from Back to the Future called ☎️ .... he wants his hair back! Lol 😂
"No, no, no, no, no, this sucker's electrical, but I need a nuclear reaction to generate the 1.21 gigawatts of electricity I need. Marty McFly : Doc, you don't just walk into a store and-and buy plutonium!" But you can buy white hair dye🧓
IMNSHO, it looks very cool.
I still don't get the point. We spend how much on processors or av units then buy another DAC. Don't get me wrong I have one but there has to be a better solution. Sad thing is I am using an oppo as a transport then had to buy another Blu Ray to do 4k. I really don't get why these can't all be one unit with apps to download like a fire stick which I also have. Seems nuts to me.
I find it odd you used the clip you did to indicate the screen is very responsive, because it looks very laggy and unresponsive when I play that segment back. Was that an isolated incident or is the visual representation what can be expected?
Is slow motion lol
.... 60fps to 24fps
Why did you wait so long to review this product? Just bought a second streamer which is good. But the display on this bad boy is wicked. It also uses a great dac chip.
There's a good reason for that!
Screens are noisy [larger adds more].
Analog & digital isolation is better.
Separating power is quieter.
That's why you don't find many "High-End" all-in-one units.
What you said would've made sense if Linn did not release their new flagship streamer last month, which features a huge screen as well.
@@GlaciaDay
Are you implying that because it's a Linn, the screen size doesn't matter in reguard to noise?
On the website, there is no mention of the screen for the Klimax, if it were indeed a "Key Feature" it most certainly would have been mentioned.
The Majik has a CRT screen, similar to a computer; sure you're aware of how much noise those generate.
@@saint6563 But the fact is the pioneer of streaming music and probably the most high end companies that make a streamer has a huge screen on their flagship product. Same goes for Boulder, METRONOME, etc.. Also, as you mentioned Majik has a CRT screen. This conversation has turned out to be pointless for both of us as You have no idea what you were talking about and no idea what a CRT screen is.
@@GlaciaDay
hahaha
How can you say I don't know about something I know about?
Sold CRT displays last Century & am knowledgeable on many other display technology.
Just because companies are using large displays, doesn't prove they don't add noise.
Duh.
The reason you're bailing on this discussion is because you have no facts to back up your lame assurions.
'Well this company does it' doesn't cut it!
Bye.
@@saint6563 CRT? Really? A modern streamer has a Cathode Ray Tube screen? Well, that is a shocker.
Indeed, I looked into this earlier this year and even corresponded with the manufacturer with some questions. Nice thing is it can rip CD's too if needed and they say it has lots of sources of meta data. However, my preferred music streaming service is Amazon Music HD and they don't have plans to support it. Oh well...
Are you trying to say that it can rip CDs using an add-on CD drive? I saw no CD slot, so it, by itself, can't rip CDs, unless I'm missing something.
@@cablebrain9691 Correct ! (if my memory is correct)
@@cablebrain9691 you may connect a simple portable cd player to the rose It has a an cd rip application in it.
Ya, but do you like it as much as the Totem Tribes?
Nice video production! 👍🙃
Wow, it looks like the future has arrived with that unit!
Is that BBQ ash in your hair? 😂. Super vlog 👍🥸
NAD M33?
CZcams music for me, along with my Synology NAS, plus vinyl, Radio etc. PC for music playback with external DAC... lovely display gives great album artwork, full screen touch screen, live bio etc, and didn't cost an arm and a leg 😃😊
And it’s a messy ugly ah setup. Compared to a clean, sleek, all-in-one. To each their own I guess.
The bigger one looks awesome. But I use Roon and it is a shame it doesn’t run the core , as I would be using my nuc to feed it Roon , bit pointless.
I have that same Webber kettle. 🤘🏻
Damn!!! No mention of the Headphone jack on the 201E model... SMDH
Love this guy. Friggin awesome. You rock Jay🤟
I'm getting Darko vibes in the post production and cutscenes... On purpose or...? Great review btw !
But let’s be clear.... There’s only 1 John Dario
I borrowed a Rose rs150, was impressed with all the functions, the display, Rosetube, very easy to use, Fantastic app, but compared to my old Nad M50 piece of old junk, the Nad sounded much better, the Rose sounded cold and lifeless. I tried with both internal dac and my Audio note dac. The Rose is all show no go. Such as shame.
Omg I had that same MP3 player in 2001-2002. Then my dad saved up for months for Christmas to buy me the first iPod. I loved that MP3 player. I though I was the shit back then walking the hallways at school. I had a Walkman then discman, then the a dell pocket pc and then iPod. I miss those days.
"I love BBQing... and there's my neighbours' dog..." you rock! :-)))) Jokes aside, I love kimchi and BBQ! Tried authentic stuff at Suwon-si ;-)
And the video with fire and sparkles is really cool!
That NEW Cambridge Evo 75 and 150 steamer might be up here with these Rose models
They're just as sexy, intuitive and feature rich.
The cambridge is more competition to NAD M10 but I feel the rose hifi is a different breed altogether ... I don't know of any streamer which can play you tube ad free and project the video at 4k to your display .. this stuff is sick ..
Nice looking units but they don't make a version without built in amp. A dealbreaker for people who wish to feed a power amp. Even the 150 would have a snowflakes chance of driving my Magnepans. Maybe they'll make a un amped version in the future but by that time I would have the Rose in my rack. Plus only the Rose has the 4k streaming. Not important to all, but it is to me.
The 150 is an unamped version. Similarly they have just introduced 250 which is an unamped version of 201 .. check their website
@@ajaygeorge79 I meant the Cambridge Evo 150 which has an integrated amp. The Rose 150 is the one I'll hopefully be getting soon.
This is a really entertaining review.
Looks like the Rose apps are fresh off the press. 1k downloads....not many reviews. I'd be leary of that alone. Are you buying the 4k model for yourself?
Every time jay says upper model & lower model take a shot
How does it compare to the bluesound
I have both. Bluesound doesn't even stand a chance against this one. The difference in sound quality is like night and day for me. Then there's the price difference as well.
I have come to the conclusion and concluded that even one of my older and lowly cd players, namely the linn genki wipes the floor with a high quality newly bought streamer 10 months ago, that now is incapable of tidal streaming due to out of date firmware that is now non upgradable because of tidal's recent new firmware changes a couple of weeks ago. So much for putting faith in a streamer technology that is out of date after 10 months of usage from new from the date I actually bought into it. Since the genki cd player wipes the floor with the tidal streamer, no loss except for wasting my hard saving up for some new worse technology going out of date quicker than aging a year in my life when bought from new.
So the hifi rose no longer supports tidal?
I will definitely be buying the RS150, but I am in the US and will wait for it to become available at US retailers. Can't wait!