Guilty Gear Strive - 5 amazing things you can do with Roman Cancels!
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- The Roman Cancel is the heart and soul of Guilty Gear Strive and in this video I want to show you 5 amazing and fun concepts that are possible with it! From slingshotting yourself around the screen to creating dastardly whale mixups, the world is yours!
0:00 - Intro
0:38 - Turbo charge momentum
3:08 - Turbo charge command grabs
5:53 - Turbo charge utility
8:55 - Turbo charge super moves
12:40 - Make charge motions easier!
14:25 - Final thoughts
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We keep talking about Roman cancels on this channel, but only because there is SO MUCH THERE! So in this video is sort of a grab-bag of concepts with Roman Cancels. From being about to use a roman cancel as a slingshot for momentum, to creating possible checkmate situations with super moves and more hopefully you find some of these tricks helpful! Keep in mind any character specific stuff in the video, many characters can emulate the same kinda tricks!
So the #system-mechanics channel in the GGST discord was messing around and discovered some dank tech. You can taunt cancel normals then drift PRC cancel to get a command grab on block. You can also replace RRC with taunt-canceled PRC in quite a few combos to forgo the extra hit and scaling that comes with the RRC pop. This added 25 damage to my Leo's B&B and makes some combo extensions possible where they otherwise would not be.
Is there any reason you chose to cancel bandit bringer with hs? Should it be a longer button or does it not matter? (Pot main here, im assuming from watching this i can hit megafist, cancel the recovery when they block it, then hit hs, to land fast, and pot buster/low) cant wait to try it!
@@metalgeartrusty cause HS will whiff, you want it to whiff. If it hits it ruins the whole thing. And yes works the same with pot and megafist, and you also want a slow button so you don't actually hit them
Just curious if this is known tech, but any time you can dash cancel, you can get a blue roman cancel. This works with cancelling air normals to air dash, same way as ino can cancel. And for giovanna and sol you can get blue roman cancel when dash cancelling normals.
You can also get the purple roman cancel if you activate just after hit stop. The taunt cancel is new to me but the delay might be easier in general. It's still pretty useful to avoid the penalty from red roman cancel.
Legend has it that rooflemonger looks at the comments as a mixup
I absolutely adore how they somehow made the roman cancels both more simple and more deep. great example of how streamlining doesn't have to equal dumbing down.
Number 1: having fun
YEAH…yeah!
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@@GoldenHue בבקשה איש ראנדומאלי
I agree with the narrator going “DANGER” when Zato became Sonic for a minute, that’s terrifying.
A little addition to the momentum section, if you RC drift vertically you cancel any horizontal momentum
turns out saw some footage where you can retain momentum. this game just has too many options! lol
@@Bimbes_McFly im pretty sure if you Roman cancel cancel (heh) you keep momentum
Optimal ram colors have the orange laser so you literally can't see the orange dust.
This is some real ancient hidden tech
Fantastic video mate. I play Faust and using PRC on his scarecrows for movement and grab set ups is really cool. Faust has a lot of issues, but at least he's really tricky
Mechanics like that are what can make a character get better as a game ages
Scarecrow PRC haircut is my favorite thing to do with Faust outside of the 100 meter item toss super lol.
Tomorrow is KoF trailer day again! Duno if I will be able to get that and another GG video out the same day but I will try but NOTHING stops the kof train! especially because we didn't have a trailer last week :( Big Potemkin guide is coming up in a few days, and also a GG strive tier list but... not your standard tier list, its the kind of tier list only I can make, when you see it you will know 🐵
so either MORE gg, KOF or BOTH and an eventual pot guide? mate there's no losing condition there, you rock
This game just keeps getting better.
That thumbnail had me thinking about RC cars.
Guess you could say I got RC'ed Mixed Up
The momentum is one of my favorite things about the Roman cancel. When I discovered that I could do this the day I learned fast cancels I was amazed. One of my friends plays Nago so I actually tried implementing this technique a lot in my neutral when he tries to anti air me. I’ve also used it to bait a jump attempt from Iron Savior and fast canceled into j.S to catch them by surprise. Also, as an extension tool to go for a overhead after it’s blocked. Another thing that I like to do with Millia is utilize her j.H from the fast cancel to land and continue a combo. Gatling>iron savior>drift fast j.H miss>c.S>combo time. This game is too fun.
If you like roman cancels Joe can combo fwd+LK into back+LK
james chen had a small vid early on with the fast purple roman cancel off of mega fist (whiff j.P) and he just flew from full screen into face for pot buster, but damn does that hammer fall PRC give me another option lol
I can't seem to find the video... Can you link it?
@@asixix1319 it was on twitter twitter.com/jchensor/status/1402180138607857665?s=19
Me rubbing my hands together: Yes...this will do just fine
I'm a brand new GG player, but loving this game. I get destroyed everytime right now but the vids along with grinding the training mode have been helping a lot. Thanks and I look forward to the next ones!
Sane here. Me and my brother went in blind and I always having a blast. Jumped into mission mode and was taken a back by all the crazy tech and complexity of the game. Gonna beat him up when we play again
Man, I couldn't gush enough about how cool Roman Cancels are in Strive. All this trickery you can do really encapsulates the dev's idea of "mischief", and in a way that's surprisingly easy to execute thanks to the button macro. I'm a new player, and I have never been good at combos or executionally-difficult moves, but I could see myself trying some of this with a little time practicing. I've never felt that way about a fighting game before. I even thought of a couple of things I could try with Faust while the video was going on! It's just so wildly freeing to be able to look at the complex stuff, the real meat of the game, and actually be able to participate.
I really do feel all the work the devs did to make this game approachable-yet-deep is really paying off. Strive really is such an impressive piece of design and I'm so looking forward to seeing it grow and develop.
Finally, a GG video telling me to do something with 100% meter thats actually viable
It's really cool that you can get full meter by hitting with burst in neutral, it's made a huge difference in some of my matches
"How fast was he going?"
"Whippin' fast."
"WOAH!"
Last night I definitely saw someone use the techniques you demonstrated for Faust and Ramlethal in game, which I hadn't seen before. Looks like people are paying attention :)
Ur tutorials are helping me alot! Keep up the great vids❤️💯
Great in depth yet simple explanation of some kinda advanced concepts!
Really appreciate you man! As a Pot main I obviously enjoy your content, but your general tutorials and guides are great for beginners/casuals like myself. Much love for putting in the work to make our lives a little easier. 👌🏾
Some Axl applications:
1) Make them block rensengeki full screen, then fast RC command grab.
2) Hit them with an anti-air 2S or 6K, cancel into One Vision, RC the recovery of One Vision, then let it rip!
8:55 i learned that 100% meter OD -> continue pressure from a sonicfox vid during beta 1 and have absolutely been using it to squeak out W's with anji
Good info on some wild stuff. I'll try to remember those. Thanks!
Brilliant video, I’m definitely trying that Roman cancel ‘trick’ with Ram lol
As a new Guilty Gear player oh my gosh it is so complex but also fun to think of ways to use it
My favorite thing is to condition with hamerfall rc pot buster to train them to jump. Then with max meter you rc wait for the jump and send them to heaven
Yeaaa, I’m definitely not playing anywhere near your level if you do these in battle; I’m putting in that 3am grind tonight 😂
so much needed help in his videos. so good
Thank you roof, was talking with you on twitter yesterday about who's channel to look at etc for GG content, now I know exactly where to go 👍 lol these guides help us noobs a shit load!
May asserting her dominance twice mid-whale is the most amazing of them all.
I think when RC gets figured out some absolutely monstrous combos and mixups will be seen. Im already having a blast getting people with the hammer fall RC into pot buster nonsense
There's a crazy combo that Axl can do using the momentum RC glitch. Basically he RCs part of the Axl Bomber, which makes him go flying, in fact if you do it wrong you go IN FRONT OF YOUR OPPNONENT LOL. But if you do it right, you end up following your opponent to the corner without crossing up, where you can continue the Axl bomber corner loop.
Glorious thumbnail as always.
Now I know how to approach potemkins looking for jumps or long ass normals from the other side of the map lol
Great tips!!
These are vicious.. going to use that Ramlethal one!
That Ram demonstration just gave me a heart attack. She's already good!
I'm labbing Axl RC and it's a bit hard since his playing style is a zoner.
Thanks for the dirty may tech my friends are going to hate me
These sol bandit bringer mixups are about to change my life holy shit thank you
I been playing strive without RC and as soon as I get comfortable this comes out 😭
Back to the lab for me
Chipp had this in Xrd too with YRC, so glad they kept this lol.
Thank you for that zato missile tech, i'm bout to style on my friends with that
Rooflemonger, sir you are proving my point… RC is scary to the point that it DEMANDS RESPECT on both sides.
Shenanigans are COMING!!!
This whole game will revolve around who is better with their Roman cancels
Whhhhooooaaa gonna have to try that zato one out! Thats amazing imagine sending eddie along with it lol
This is a whole new world to me
4:20 that was forbidden tech. Free cmnd grab for pot😰
if I may make a request for a future video: I've discovered that certain normals have different properties depending on whether they're gatlinged immediately or delay gatlinged/linked. for example giovanna's close S causes a small launch if you immediately cancel, but if you wait for the hit freeze slayer style the opponent's feet will have time to touch the ground again and you can hit them standing with H. this lets you do things like rc into OH/low/throw or super into OH/low/throw, which wouldn't work if they were juggled. I don't have a big enough platform to tell people about this stuff and I'd enjoy seeing you find new applications for it.
You are doing the lord's work with these tips and tricks GG strive vids!!! Please continue these I'm a GG scrub and i need to be spoonfed these intermediate and expert tips T___T
All these cool applications make me wish we had even more meter
I been watching your video recently and I really enjoy them because I’m recently getting into fighting games (kof 14 because of a friend) but I’m so nervous to go against others cause I feel like I’m going to completely fail. Guilty gear is gonna be my next game to try
I been only playing for roughly 3 months
Gonna try some things with millia and Ino using the momentum tech in the video
Whaaaa, you used to play E. Honda? That's awesome
Dosukoi! Dosukoi! Dosukoi! Dosukoi!
Thanks for the tips roof, gonna try it against my buddy's axel tonight. Gonna just LAUNCH myself like big ol cheeto
Didnt know chef john did fighting game tutorials as a hobby
You're a fuckin legend bro, thanks.
That intro always makes me smile lol
weeELCOMe
9:20 Ziodyne cancel flashbacks impending
Man when I found out what roman cancels were back when I started Xrd, I thought it was some cool shit. And then Strive made them into so much more and now in my opinion, it's probably the coolest mechanic in fighting games, there's just so much room to do creative, cool shit and style on people with them, almost infinite ways to use them and it's a great way to use meter when in most games meter=big damage move and that's all.
Also I can't say this enough, you're a hero roofman 😭
Virgin Xrd Rev Enthusiasts:
"ReeeEeeEEeeee... Strive has no depth because gatling is butchered!!"
Roman Cancel:
"..."
Nago QCF+K PRC Shoryuken input+P
Easy blood gauge reset
True
The nests are back to clone orochi 😄
Drift canceling is the most fun mechanic in the game.
I love GG Strive's new Roman Cancel for the fact that it lets people get creative with it. You'll usually see it be used for extending combos, but a Yellow Roman Cancel can be used to stop pressure, a Blue RC can be used on knockdown to wait and see what the opponent tries to do on wakeup, or what we're seeing right now, etc.
I've been trying to experiment with fast RCs for my Potemkin, but have been having trouble executing them in a real match. I really need to work on the timing for the inputs!
Dang bro this video only been out 5 hours but I already got hit by Ram’s laser rc mixup
All I'm saying is if may does a fake fake cross up orca on me I'm just going to have to give them the round.
Can you make a video on how to stop the small ninja man from hurting me
Out of curiosity what is the BGM you use in the vids? and btw can the Momentum RC work with Leo's Air Dust?
I used whatever random stage music in this one not sure haha, I picked one randomly. Momentum RC works with literally everything in the game that shifts momentum
And no matter what my friends will still insist that Roman Cancels "aren't worth doing at our level"
That mentality will always leave them at a level where RC aren't worth it. Learning it will make you level up.
@@chaotickreg7024 That's what I keep trying to tell them, but at this point I haven't played fighting games with them regularly in 10 years (we tend to play mostly co-op board games and stuff like Monster Hunter together), I'm the only one really playing fighting games regularly.
YEAH…yeah! LoL
This mechanic is so cool. It truly encourages players to play aggresive and outdo the opponent using the same mechanics
Just wondering with may's super mix-up can u hit a button to make it unlockable,since the opponent has to block the whale coming form the other side
I doubt it. I can’t confirm this because haven’t tried it myself but fightings games usually have what players refer to cross-up protection. Meaning in that case whatever move hits first so long as you block it the next hit will automatically be blocked if its hitting at the same time but from the opposite side because theres no way to block both ways at once. So if you were to punch with May before the whale hits so long as you block that punch correctly the whale should automatically be blocked too if it hits while your opponent is still in the block stun of the punch and vice verse if the whale hits first a punch from May should be blocked on the other side if it’s hitting while the whale is still actively hitting.
When you are forward shift blue RC canceling into the potemkin command grab are you Kara canceling too? Or is that just the range with blue RC?
no just regular command grab. In my testing you can't kara cancel the blue rc shift forward
@@rooflemonger interesting thanks
So you can roman cancel scarecrows into a low damage command grab for only 50% of a meter...
Man they really done Laust dirty...
Rooflemonger giving out the meat so ya'll can make that GREASE.
Really insightful video.
That being said, orcas are dolphins not whales.
Is gunflame rc wild throw an unblockable setup? Shouldn't gunflame hit you out of prejump if you set this up right?
you can backdash it.
@@rooflemonger Duh of course sorry for the stupid question I forget about invuln backdashes
@@raiden3079 is all good friend
That ram roman cancel is cheeeese
What is the background music?
It's May's theme from Guilty Gear XX. You can unlock it and others and use them in-game btw.
All of a sudden, you're turning the tables and it just became a-- SPICY. CHICKEN. NUGS.
Thank you Wendy's ad.
Best part of this system is when my friend is like you can't mix me then I do some cursed may mix up like jumping 2hs into itself then super make sure super hits crossup
STOP THE EVIL DOLPHIN INVASION!!!!
We want PEACE!!!
Noob question, but do you have to cancel the RC with a heavy splash? Or does mashing any button work to cancel early?
Heavy slash works best for quick landing because it won't come out and has extremely low landing lag
@@Neon-yj9xw thanks!
@@ryansmith2334 no problem, how are you enjoying Strive so far?
@@Neon-yj9xw loving it! Guilty gear x was my first fighting game so I've always liked the series and I've played a lot of them. Never been super great at it but I feel like Strive might be my chance to finally get at least a solid understanding of the mechanics I ignored as a kid.
@@ryansmith2334 I never played X, but I played everything else. Was Sol always your favorite character, or are you waiting for a specific DLC?
If a may does this to me i quit actually hopefully gold rc works here
... can someone explain what a charge move is I've heard people complaining but I'm confused
Its when you hold back and then forward or down and then up for a few seconds just like you charge the move
Core a gaming made an excellent video on the subject
Its called "why motion inputs still exists"
Why does he sound like Chef John?
🌚
this smiley is either a really dark soccer ball, or a borg?
LMAO😂😂
Good. More simple baby techniques for this simplified flighting game for babies.
Roofle what's up with your voice? Why do you affect that voice?
For the amount of veiws you get your likes are small in comparison which means people aren't giving thanks for your awesome tips which is a shame.
Unfortunately Faust has some of the worst special moves, I guess I'm gonna have to switch character soon
Man nago really doesnt seem to get to use most of the game mechanics :/ like the command grab one is the only one that seemed viable on him.
He plays his own game🤷🏾♂️
No easier way to Roman Cancel? Pressing 3 attack buttons at once is impossible for me....
Well just casually expose us sol players why don't you
The only thing you should use your roman cancel is to rc your gorillas moves to abuse such degenerate moves. That is ehy their powerful. It means that for the fifth time you went for a dp that they block, you now rc to continue your degenerate assault. Never learn my brothers! Reject reason, return to monkey.
what are these voices?
See capcom? Arcsyst did it why couldn't you?
Turbo Charged Command Grabs? Why TF would you tell Potemkin players this?