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  • čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
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    this video talks about sony's cinematic universe of spider man related characters - this video talks about madame web, it talks about venom, it talks about venom 2, it talks about morbius, it talks about el muerto, it talks about marvel - ok I'm done with this bit, I hope you like this video :)
    00:00 A Weirdly Named Universe
    01:09 A Spider Man universe with no Spider Man
    02:37 VENOM
    10:42 2 venom 2 furious
    20:58 Morbin Time
    33:06 Madame Web
    edited by owen, my brother and me
    drawings by me

Komentáře • 942

  • @Pinely
    @Pinely  Před 5 měsíci +101

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    • @dyzphoriia
      @dyzphoriia Před 5 měsíci +10

      12 likes

    • @MisterBadman
      @MisterBadman Před 5 měsíci

      If 4-5 sips of coffee gives ya the $#!¥s its not the coffee, either your on your way to incontinence or there’s something far worse going on in your bowels. Or the coffee your drinking is making you ill!

    • @Gnarfledarf
      @Gnarfledarf Před 3 měsíci +2

      Don't put sponsored content in the middle of the video.

  • @rogerroger9952
    @rogerroger9952 Před 5 měsíci +2164

    "I am now going to sing Venom by Eminem."
    *proceeds to read the lyrics in a way that isn't even slightly musical*

  • @Jogproof
    @Jogproof Před 5 měsíci +894

    I have never heard anyone call SymBrock a sibling relationship they even have a kid in the comics... I need Venom 3 to just be them raising Sleeper

    • @mammoneymelon
      @mammoneymelon Před 5 měsíci +218

      straight people missing gay allegories is one of life's constants 😔

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo Před 5 měsíci +27

      ​​@@mammoneymelonWELL AKSHUALLY
      The original concept for Venom was an alien symbiote bonding to a woman who was mourning the death of her husband and miscarriage of her child due to an unintended side effect of Spider-Man's actions.
      However, Marvel felt the story was too dark, so the woman was changed into a dude and they toned the elements down.
      In both versions, the symbiote is basically a parasite that exploits the host's emotions to become a villain. While there may be gay subtext SOMEWHERE, it definitely wasn't from the character as originally created.

    • @1kaz1
      @1kaz1 Před 5 měsíci +169

      ​@@KetsubanSolowe're not talking about the original, we're talking about what it turned into!

    • @idiopathictendencies8453
      @idiopathictendencies8453 Před 5 měsíci +1

      🤮

    • @burningbronze7555
      @burningbronze7555 Před 5 měsíci +14

      The kid has three parents and is somewhere between the Messiah or the anti Christ

  • @goblinville
    @goblinville Před 5 měsíci +2197

    The venom movies are great because Tom Hardy is someone who is conventionally attractive yet he's a character actor. He's like Mike Rowe doing dirty jobs. Just a guy who loves his gross job and not afraid to be disgusting

    • @andshescallingacab4346
      @andshescallingacab4346 Před 5 měsíci +150

      tom hardy and his princess lips

    • @NeonNijahn
      @NeonNijahn Před 5 měsíci +115

      I love seeing Tom Hardy respond to dumb tabloid questions. He shuts down those reporters with tact and lays to bare the stupidity of the whole celebrity gossip columnist industry.

    • @ElleStuart
      @ElleStuart Před 5 měsíci +90

      Is he baby girl? That's the more important question.

    • @CasualKing21
      @CasualKing21 Před 5 měsíci +14

      Don't forget Brazilian jiu-jitsu badass!!

    • @jefftakesdscakes30
      @jefftakesdscakes30 Před 5 měsíci +2

      No dude it just got a resurgence

  • @CrumbisBumbis
    @CrumbisBumbis Před 5 měsíci +1106

    it just feels like Morbius was Jared Leto's last desperate attempt at getting in on the super hero hype but.. he's not that guy... plus he's just a huge fuqin creep

    • @JenerikEt
      @JenerikEt Před 5 měsíci +155

      I know next to nothing about leto. I saw him talking to a woman in one interview and the way he did it convinced me of every allegation

    • @ashleybanks-wm4cg
      @ashleybanks-wm4cg Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@JenerikEtwhat allegations 😂😂😂 y'all see a str8 man pursuing a woman and all of a sudden he's a creep how do you think ppl have relationships?

    • @annjepsen1621
      @annjepsen1621 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@ashleybanks-wm4cg How about searching up the allegations before laughing. He's a creep and has been for many decades.

    • @anothermiddleschoolburnout8816
      @anothermiddleschoolburnout8816 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@ashleybanks-wm4cg He has a sex cult

    • @Jokoko2828
      @Jokoko2828 Před 5 měsíci

      @@JenerikEt The man is a literal cult leader who thinks far too highly of himself.

  • @cas6359
    @cas6359 Před 5 měsíci +4156

    legitimately the hate that venom got was uncalled for. like is it a masterpiece? no. is it entertaining? yes. is it memorable? more than some other superhero movies that’s for damn sure.

    • @Korra228
      @Korra228 Před 5 měsíci +100

      Nah that movie is poopie

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +271

      Nah that movie is a masterpiece

    • @egemenozan5641
      @egemenozan5641 Před 5 měsíci +121

      Venom could have been so much more... It's really more that it's disappointing than it is outright terrible.

    • @SzatanistaDzezowy
      @SzatanistaDzezowy Před 5 měsíci +43

      That movie sucked ass and they somehow managed to make Venom 2 even worse.

    • @koteshima6682
      @koteshima6682 Před 5 měsíci +38

      nah, it was just entertaining and nothing more

  • @liampendergast8670
    @liampendergast8670 Před 5 měsíci +3257

    Venom 2 is a pride month classic. Up there with Brokeback Mountain & Happy Together.

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +593

      I cannot believe pinely called them siblings when venom and eddie broke up then venom came out in public 😭😭 I don’t get straight men sometimes

    • @Jane-oz7pp
      @Jane-oz7pp Před 5 měsíci

      BBM is gay content for straight people, pick an actual gay movie like Legally Blonde.

    • @enotsnavdier6867
      @enotsnavdier6867 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@MooseMedley Look, I'm sorry, but us straight guys have fucking terrible gaydar

    • @emackenzie
      @emackenzie Před 5 měsíci +486

      ​@@MooseMedley "Venom went so some kind of rave and learned that people can love him for who he is" pinely please you're so close

    • @emackenzie
      @emackenzie Před 5 měsíci +314

      ​@@enotsnavdier6867 I would forgive if Venom didn't literally put his tongue in Eddie's mouth in the first movie

  • @zetsubanned4308
    @zetsubanned4308 Před 5 měsíci +490

    I love the fact that Carnage's hacking powers are not only canon, but underplayed in the movie. He's actually traveled through phone lines via The Web

    • @GamerponGill
      @GamerponGill Před 5 měsíci +32

      Symbiote powers are goofy as hell, and I love that the movie kept that power. I wish they went further and showed him hunting someone down through the internet, literally.

    • @broisyougobbling
      @broisyougobbling Před 5 měsíci +19

      The Web? HER WEB CONNECTS THEM ALL!

    • @GuiltlessGear
      @GuiltlessGear Před 4 měsíci +4

      SURF THE WEB SURF THE WEB

    • @PhoebeTheFairy56
      @PhoebeTheFairy56 Před měsícem +2

      Technically it wouldn't work as well in the current day though bc most devices have wireless internet now, and the way the symbiote traveled through the internet was actually physically going through the wires

  • @Crossark1
    @Crossark1 Před 5 měsíci +375

    Pinely committing to the bit of getting a seat right next to the only other person in his row is absolute menace behavior

  • @hotmesslex18
    @hotmesslex18 Před 5 měsíci +1366

    calling them a “sibling relationship” when venom admits he’s in love with eddie at the end of the movie……..

    • @95rossc
      @95rossc Před 5 měsíci +91

      fellas is it incest to love your brother?

    • @Tavi78
      @Tavi78 Před 5 měsíci +207

      @@95rossc”fellas” this has been well the fuck known for a long ass time. Venom literally had a coming out subplot

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 Před 5 měsíci +75

      @@Tavi78was that not the sequel 🤣 Venom literally says ‘I’m out of the Eddie closet!’

    • @MarsheIIo
      @MarsheIIo Před 5 měsíci

      @@95rossc fellas is it familial to stick your tongue down each others throats? is it a sibling thing to get married, call each other love and get freaky? [marvel comics presents (2019) #5 youre welcome]

    • @95rossc
      @95rossc Před 5 měsíci +2

      I mean in the movie wasn't that an analogy? idk, I just feel like even if that was the intent, it doesn't need to be, but yeah if they lean in and don't just queerbait it then sure sounds cool@@Tavi78

  • @spartanisland9977
    @spartanisland9977 Před 5 měsíci +185

    For some reason when you said Eddie and Venom were siblings which is weird because they kissed, my reaction was to defend it by saying “but Luke and Leia kissed” and I don’t know what to do now

    • @lutchien
      @lutchien Před 5 měsíci +11

      I have to tell you that I was watching this video on my TV; when I read your comment, I got up, got another device, logged in and found the video just to reply to you: I laughed so hard at this. Thanks much, internet stranger!! 😂😂

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo Před 5 měsíci +5

      Imagine if you read SPLINTER OF THE MINDS EYE and got to read about Luke and Leia mud-wrestling romantically.
      Yes really

  • @november5437
    @november5437 Před 5 měsíci +606

    glad to see the multiple people in the comments being like “pinely….they’re gay….” about venom and eddie this is very important bc i stopped in my tracks when i heard him say that like …????

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo Před 5 měsíci +4

      How are they gay if one is an alien

    • @beanstalks8
      @beanstalks8 Před 5 měsíci +103

      @@KetsubanSolo oh, y'know

    • @meias.
      @meias. Před 5 měsíci +76

      ​@@KetsubanSolo well... I wouldn't call it straight either. Of course, those aren't the only two options, but they're the only ones humans know and use

    • @normal6483
      @normal6483 Před 5 měsíci +68

      @@KetsubanSolo No one ever says this about the aliens with boobs.

    • @norr7283
      @norr7283 Před 5 měsíci +11

      ​@@KetsubanSolothey are both boys

  • @spiderfrog1525
    @spiderfrog1525 Před 5 měsíci +515

    Tom Hardy not only did the eating the lobster.. but I also remember hearing he in fact was the one who decided he wanted to do that. Went on set saw lobster tank and went I want to go into this. The lobster iirc was made out of marshmallow with chocolate syrup blood I think!

    • @Noaartetc
      @Noaartetc Před 5 měsíci +39

      Wow, luxurious! They could've made it out of rice dough or something 😂

    • @angles18
      @angles18 Před 5 měsíci +44

      He said 'I HAVE to get in that lobster tank'...

    • @kaelkirkby9191
      @kaelkirkby9191 Před 5 měsíci +26

      Fun fact about this scene. Tom Hardy is deathly allergic to the sea creatures in the tank, and he actually ate the lobster because he wanted the scene to feel authentic. That's right, Tom Hardy almost died so he could commit to the bit.

    • @norr7283
      @norr7283 Před 5 měsíci +5

      i liked that scene as a kid

    • @rosefulmadness
      @rosefulmadness Před 5 měsíci +2

      that sounds fun actually

  • @god_7594
    @god_7594 Před 5 měsíci +2466

    Siblings?? They are a couple 😭😭😭

    • @wavesorlando554
      @wavesorlando554 Před 5 měsíci +144

      for real when he put the picture of the liquid as Carnage's mom i was like NO EDDY'S THE OTHER PARENT

    • @njf11-
      @njf11- Před 5 měsíci +6

      not me thinking he was talking about adam and eve

    • @SilverRagaire
      @SilverRagaire Před 5 měsíci +21

      @@njf11-Why? Are you obsessed with two people that weren’t brought up?

    • @e-tan3911
      @e-tan3911 Před 5 měsíci

      @@SilverRagaire Because the original commenter is named "god_7594" and has a picture of the biblical god as his profile picture? Seems like the joke writes itself there.

    • @njf11-
      @njf11- Před 5 měsíci

      @@SilverRagaire no because it was god that made the comment

  • @calarthur96
    @calarthur96 Před 5 měsíci +582

    hey, give the morbius writers SOME credit. 22.6666667% rounds up, so they actually have a 23% average, not 22%

    • @lirich0
      @lirich0 Před 5 měsíci +97

      23 is basically 25 and if you think about it that’s basically one third which is just 33% which rounds to 50% and 50% is an F but 59% is also an F which basically means 60%, and if we’re being honest we should give people the benefit of the doubt and give them 10% leeway, so 70%, which is visually indistinct from 75%. So, to be fair, the morbius writers basically have a 75% average

    • @Bananova-slupka
      @Bananova-slupka Před 5 měsíci

      @@lirich0 valid

    • @KamielDV2
      @KamielDV2 Před 5 měsíci +25

      I morbed all over the cinema when I saw the genius that is Jared Leto's Morbman unfold before my eyes

    • @lamlelamatsiliza8550
      @lamlelamatsiliza8550 Před 2 měsíci

      ​​@@lirich0that looks like a type of math a pedo would use for age

  • @MasterEth
    @MasterEth Před 5 měsíci +439

    WAIT! I JUST REALIZED? HOW IS THE VENOM MOVIE HALF A DECADE OLD NOW???

    • @tinycha0s
      @tinycha0s Před 5 měsíci +5

      I CANT

    • @cas6359
      @cas6359 Před 5 měsíci +67

      five years isn’t that long ago tho

    • @pblx1321
      @pblx1321 Před 5 měsíci

      @@cas6359 its been 5.5 years, pretty decent amount of time

    • @Joe90h
      @Joe90h Před 5 měsíci +48

      Welcome to time dialation. Every year will, as a percentage of your life, always be shorter than the last. And your brain is getting a LOT better at filtering out more of the year from your memory as it needs to make space in those biological hard drives...

    • @bangitybangbabang
      @bangitybangbabang Před 5 měsíci +25

      Just say 5 years, it's not that long

  • @notakiwi5677
    @notakiwi5677 Před 5 měsíci +1726

    SIBLING LIKE? They are MARRIED

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +148

      Me when pinely endorses sibcest: 😰

    • @mammoneymelon
      @mammoneymelon Před 5 měsíci +268

      pinely doesn't know about gay people /j

    • @notakiwi5677
      @notakiwi5677 Před 5 měsíci +91

      @@mammoneymelon who's gonna tell him 😔💅

    • @1kaz1
      @1kaz1 Před 5 měsíci +121

      Yeah venom has the coming out scene playing into it and all, also in the comics they have a child ajshbab

    • @jewels3400
      @jewels3400 Před 5 měsíci +124

      I genuinely thought that being surprised by these comments would make someone be like, "haha trolled!" But I look it up and - !?!??!?!!
      They really get pregnant together???

  • @louspowels7120
    @louspowels7120 Před 5 měsíci +502

    9:10 uh oh Pinely doesn't know what lobsters are.

    • @creshiell
      @creshiell Před 5 měsíci +22

      I can't believe I didn't catch that lmao

    • @creshiell
      @creshiell Před 5 měsíci +48

      He said crab and my brain just went "yah that's a crab"

    • @h1d34w4y
      @h1d34w4y Před 5 měsíci +52

      and my dumbass was like "Who's gonna tell him thats a shrimp?"

    • @kaelkirkby9191
      @kaelkirkby9191 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@h1d34w4y That's a very large shrimp.

    • @bazzfromthebackground3696
      @bazzfromthebackground3696 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Clearly it's an alien turtle.
      Venom IS a sci-fi.

  • @sonderfulsable
    @sonderfulsable Před 5 měsíci +678

    i actually enjoyed the venom movies so much 😭 like they're so cheesy and really fun sometimes

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +78

      As an lgbt person venom was so popular with us not only because it’s a shitty cheesy -romance- like straight ppl have had for centuries but it’s also an action movie with debatable queer characters and themes. It’s honestly so good and I love the series

    • @jewels3400
      @jewels3400 Před 5 měsíci +26

      Plus the themes of just chomping heads and the drama that comes with that

    • @kwowka
      @kwowka Před 5 měsíci +28

      Yeah like Eddie throws his life away for the most rejected members of society, almost dies, gets possessed with an alien and keeps going because he cannot live with himself if he lets the suffering go on? The movies are simultaneously a romcom? They’re the best?

    • @norr7283
      @norr7283 Před 5 měsíci +2

      me too venom was so fun, i need to rewatch!

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean Před 5 měsíci

      I'm glad you got something out of it, but it's not a good movie. It's noooot a good movie.

  • @alexrice7474
    @alexrice7474 Před 5 měsíci +758

    "sibling relationship" .... Yeah.... THATS the dynamic...... Sure......

    • @rayraymind
      @rayraymind Před 5 měsíci +137

      id even argue they act more like a married couple in the second movie than they do in the first 😭😭 doesnt venom literally run off to a gay club?

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +87

      THIS AUTOMATICALLY MADE THE PHRASE “GAL PALS” COME INTO MY HEAD 😭😭

    • @alexrice7474
      @alexrice7474 Před 5 měsíci +90

      @@rayraymind fr I don't know how Pinely didn't pick up on Venom being a gay love story ESPECIALLY THE SECOND ONE

    • @bensadfleck9972
      @bensadfleck9972 Před 5 měsíci +52

      They are even roommates who spent a holiday together, very brotherly!!

    • @pussygangster5976
      @pussygangster5976 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Sweet home Alabama

  • @Mario_Angel_Medina
    @Mario_Angel_Medina Před 5 měsíci +226

    8:45 "In my planet I'm a loser, kind of like you" is a good line, but I wish the villain of the first movie had confirmed that the other symbiontes in fact think Venom is a loser, even if it was in just a quick line. Something like the bad guy saying "of course you befriended a human, Venom. Its so typical of pathetic losers like you!" at the beginning of the final fight

    • @user-xz6qc5ej2r
      @user-xz6qc5ej2r Před 5 měsíci

      The line is not only bad, your fix on it is even woirse!\
      it DESTROYS the entirew character lol.
      Venom isn't supposed to be the freekin Booster Gold of the spiderverse.
      Hes NOT a loser on his planet, hes not a loser anywhere. that's the point.
      but modern cinema sympathizes with villains bc brainrot is more importnat, so we have fancam edits and love letter movies to serial killers such as Dhamer, glorified criminal murder plot revengres ( joker ) and ppl literally empathizing with the sepetmeber 11th attacks lol.
      this is what thigns have become. we cant just have a villain, hes gotta have HJEART! OMG hes a LOSERRR :*(
      just like Thanos. cant make him ultra evil, lets make him a big bag of weiners too.

    • @norr7283
      @norr7283 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@user-xz6qc5ej2rno, hes a loser. he literally said so himself

    • @sklynn
      @sklynn Před 5 měsíci +11

      ​@user-xz6qc5ej2r he's the protagonist of this film, of course they'll sand him down a bit. Riot is the villian for this movie...

    • @oserty
      @oserty Před 2 měsíci +1

      i agree that they could’ve add more but riot did say to venom something along the lines of "get your ass in the ship right now" and got shocked and mad when venom refused, so this at least implies that venom is someone who’s supposed to be easy to push around. although riot seems to be the leader of their lil team of alien goo so maybe his anger confirms only the fact that venom is his subordinate. and being a subordinate is not necessary a loser thing to do… or maybe it is, in the alien goo society? anyways yeah i wish riot confirmed venom’s loser-ness more explicitly. but oh well now riot’s dead so we’ll never know!

  • @kesterwilliams9968
    @kesterwilliams9968 Před 5 měsíci +116

    I love the venom films, my little monsterlover heart goes wild

    • @Jane-oz7pp
      @Jane-oz7pp Před 5 měsíci +15

      Lady Venom does things for my queer monsterlover soul I can't explain with words.

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +6

      They’re ideal relationship fr

    • @cidevant002
      @cidevant002 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Symbrock my beloved.

  • @theshampug
    @theshampug Před 5 měsíci +153

    one thing that baffles me about that "we're the same" line from cletus to eddie/venom in the movie is like. in the comics, he's referencing the fact they're both this fucked up largely from having very abusive fathers that kind of deeply affected their ability to treat people normal. it's literally a whole cycle of abuse/"we both have daddy issues/a really hard upbringing" thing.
    also originaly the whole drake labs incident involved capturing eddie/venom and making more symbiotes, riot being one of them, but their actual leader was this awesome lady symbiote called Scream that has pizza colors. she was a whole girlboss gaslight gatekeep and they didnt even give her a chance... (i think you see a flash of a yellow symbiote eating a rabbit in the lab, iirc, that's probably supposed to be her)

    • @user-xz6qc5ej2r
      @user-xz6qc5ej2r Před 5 měsíci +4

      consider you have to take decades of comic lore ( of which a ton is largely contestable) and truncate it into a 90 minute + flick.
      imagine the fact you have to dumb things down... considerably.
      Like the red carnage line - is directly from the old 90's marketing for " MAXIMUM CARNAGE ": on the RaDiCaL red Cartrdige ! Woha!

    • @stupidone248
      @stupidone248 Před 28 dny

      love how u said scream has "pizza colors" thats so funny

  • @WhatAmIDoingHere12
    @WhatAmIDoingHere12 Před 5 měsíci +454

    As someone who has never seen Venom, I never understood the whole Venom x Eddie thing. I must admit, I get it now. That’s gay asf.

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +70

      Please watch it it’s truly more beautiful and amazing than pinely yaps about

    • @anothermiddleschoolburnout8816
      @anothermiddleschoolburnout8816 Před 5 měsíci +45

      Venom is a certified gay classic

    • @norr7283
      @norr7283 Před 5 měsíci +13

      its so gay you have to watch it for yourself

    • @liamfaoisidhe.
      @liamfaoisidhe. Před 5 měsíci +11

      They're also gay in the comics

    • @rosefulmadness
      @rosefulmadness Před 5 měsíci +11

      it's literally canon in the comics, they have kids together. ..

  • @NosebleeddeGroselha
    @NosebleeddeGroselha Před 5 měsíci +44

    "I saw someone sitting alone in the theater and decided to sit next to them"
    I had to double check if this wasn't an Evil Pinely video

  • @harrisonwhaley7872
    @harrisonwhaley7872 Před 5 měsíci +157

    I have argued for years that Venom was better than anyone gave it credit for. It’s obviously got issues but Eddy and Venom dialogue has me laughing every time I watch the movie because they are just so funny! I know comedy is not objective but it really hits my sense of humor perfectly. The same goes for the second movie too, I just love these big lovable doofus’s

    • @luvhair255
      @luvhair255 Před 5 měsíci +5

      I enjoyed it a lot, it's rewatchable.

    • @pasharighton
      @pasharighton Před 5 měsíci +18

      it's a romcom! with monsters! it's a gay monsterfcker romcom, of course it's good, and everyone who disagrees just doesn't get it (or probably not into monsterfcking).
      there are people out there who think the shape of water is mid, although it's one of the best monsterfcking romance fairytales ever made

    • @luvhair255
      @luvhair255 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@pasharighton An interesting way to put it. I haven't seen Let there Be Carnage but you putting it that way makes it sound more interesting lol. Still need to watch Shape of Water, crazy I haven't yet given my interests, but I was pretty sure it got widespread acclaim?

    • @pasharighton
      @pasharighton Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@luvhair255 I've seen people saying it didn't deserve best picture. it's a bit basic in its message, and characters are either really good kind people or horrible assholes, but so is the case with fury road and that movie is a masterpiece too

    • @angelsunemtoledocabllero5801
      @angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 Před 4 měsíci

      Is a generic shit of a movie that only some gay people like for some reason. There are many cool gay movies out there that were even made against government persecution and they just prefer to Stan this souless cash grab.

  • @ryanpooley
    @ryanpooley Před 5 měsíci +80

    I watched morbius but it was so bad I immediately forgot what happened so when you said the 2 main characters started making out I really thought I just missed that or forgot 💀
    Also everyone convincing them to release it in theaters a second time is peak comedy

    • @Fandomsaremylifee
      @Fandomsaremylifee Před 5 měsíci +10

      Literally the only thing that kept me from walking out of the theater was the sexual tension between the main two vampires in Morbiu

  • @Iamagoblingivemeyourstuff
    @Iamagoblingivemeyourstuff Před 5 měsíci +88

    Tbh Matt Smith’s character was the part of the movie I actually enjoyed. I just wanted to see him screw around as a vampire more

  • @Xezian
    @Xezian Před 5 měsíci +140

    "they have a sibling energy" is really giving me the vibe of historians going "oh my god they were roommates"

    • @Abcdefg-tf7cu
      @Abcdefg-tf7cu Před měsícem +2

      Name one historian who has ever actually said that. If you were half as smart as you think you are, you would know that most historians love talking about the lurid sex lices of historical figures.

    • @Averyspacesmileyface
      @Averyspacesmileyface Před 25 dny

      ​@@Abcdefg-tf7cuThe thing is, most history books mention either
      A. Nothing about the relationships
      B. being "besties"
      Like, you are writing a biography about this person, why aren't you mentioning it?
      Anyway, the being "besties" part is what started the whole roommates thing lol

    • @Abcdefg-tf7cu
      @Abcdefg-tf7cu Před 25 dny

      @@Averyspacesmileyface You're right. Most history textbooks don't talk about the sex lives of most historical figures. And no history textbook has the word "bestie" in it. Like I said, you don't actually know more about these historical figures than the historians who study them for a living. Here in reality, there are basically zero historians who have any issue with saying that a historical figure was gay. They just say that historical figures were platic friends because, get this, some people actually are just "besties" with other people. Normal people can be friends with others without needing to get sex or other physical pleasure from them.

    • @Abcdefg-tf7cu
      @Abcdefg-tf7cu Před 25 dny

      @@Averyspacesmileyface "Like, why are you writing a biography about this person, why aren't you mentioning it?" Because most of these historical figures you are talking about genuinely were just plotinic friends with their "besties." Like I keep repeating to you, historians have ZERO issue with saying that a historical figure had a gay relationship IF THEY ACTUALLY HAD THE RELATIONSHIP. I can't even begin to understand what must be wrong with your perverted, sick mind if you think "hardcore anal BDSM" every time you see the word "friend."

    • @Abcdefg-tf7cu
      @Abcdefg-tf7cu Před 25 dny

      @@Averyspacesmileyface You are the type of person who thinks history textbooks should get rid of the parts about slavery to make more room for homoerotic speculation about Hitler and Mussolini.

  • @migoreng7789
    @migoreng7789 Před 5 měsíci +92

    jared leto is just too swagless to pull off morbius

  • @timenotime
    @timenotime Před 5 měsíci +766

    venom is a gay icon and i am obsessed with his romance with eddie

    • @kwowka
      @kwowka Před 5 měsíci +81

      I love watching the movies through the lens of venom being so utterly in love with Eddie and Eddie just not at. All. Like he’s there just nervously smiling at the alien with multiverses of hive mind knowledge who saw him and went ‘that’s my husband’

    • @romuloprieto2529
      @romuloprieto2529 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Bruh

    • @bazzfromthebackground3696
      @bazzfromthebackground3696 Před 5 měsíci +5

      I thought Pinely's "Statler and Waldorf" comparison was pretty apt.

  • @freddie_pope
    @freddie_pope Před 5 měsíci +75

    One small note about the Morbius returning to theaters thing: Sony doesn't pay (much) for rereleases, it's the theaters that rent the movie showing rights / files so it would be the theaters that would lose money when they had the second run. How the theaters pay changes, sometimes it's just a cut of the ticket sales and sometimes there's also a flat fee / "guaranteed ticket sale" involved but it's likely that Sony successfully made money on that second run. The only thing that Sony would likely have to pay for is creating new keys (called KDMs, Key Delivery Messages) for the video file (called DCPs, Digital Cinema Packages) so that it can be played again, which they likely would be covered immediately from any flat fee.
    The movie still lost Sony loads of money but the rerelease thing wasn't some huge mistake by them.

  • @MagmaLair13
    @MagmaLair13 Před 5 měsíci +16

    I remember Tom Hardy describing a scene from Venom which was his "favourite scene" and what he described turned out to be completely cut out of the film. It was the moment where Eddie apologises on the top of a building to Venom, and Venom gives us a glimps into what it is actually like to be a foreign being whose purpose is to consume and control, only to feel empathy after connecting to Brock's mind or some shit. So much of the film just seemed chopped up in post.

    • @hazey_dazey
      @hazey_dazey Před 3 měsíci +6

      I need the Hardy cut

    • @gur3478
      @gur3478 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I NEED TO SEE THIS OMG

  • @BarsiBoy
    @BarsiBoy Před 5 měsíci +128

    I just madame webbed😢

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +28

      Me when I web on my madame: 😢
      Me when my madame webs on me: 🤤

  • @louspowels7120
    @louspowels7120 Před 5 měsíci +145

    the Venom movies are 2 of my favorite 'super hero' movies.

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +12

      Yeah pinely is kinda weird for not calling it a 10/10. No marvel movie at all in my mind can live up to it. I literally despise superpower-action-movie-craps but venom is actually a masterpiece with a lot of subtext that is so interesting to look into

    • @Aeunax123
      @Aeunax123 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Agreed, they’re the best

    • @Idkwgo1
      @Idkwgo1 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@MooseMedleyIs this like, a joke comment?

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci

      @@Idkwgo1 unfortunately it is not

  • @Unfortunately_Mickey
    @Unfortunately_Mickey Před 5 měsíci +86

    I feel Evil Pinely vibes from this

  • @thisurldoesnotexist
    @thisurldoesnotexist Před 5 měsíci +67

    Truly the only joy in Morbius is that lil dance Matt Smith does
    Every time I think about how bad Morbius was I think "but what about that lil dance."
    Madame Web was better than Morbius but not good. Fun, though. Just not good

  • @kmbs1827
    @kmbs1827 Před 5 měsíci +65

    venom and eddie... sibling like... they're an old marriage

  • @pebbl_eeater
    @pebbl_eeater Před 5 měsíci +57

    I will forever be a venom defender. Its objectively not a great movie and im so incredibly obsessed with it. you summarized very well why its so appealing

    • @fansee1368
      @fansee1368 Před 5 měsíci +9

      Ngl, they could've made so much cash if this was actually just the Venomverse
      I'd watch each second of these stupid fucking movies as long as I get Venom

    • @pebbl_eeater
      @pebbl_eeater Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@fansee1368 absolutely, my only fear would be them running the character into the ground and ruining what people liked about them

  • @Jottagelado
    @Jottagelado Před 5 měsíci +29

    I like bad movies. I Really really like bad movies. I used to make a discord call with my friends every Saturday to watch a bad movie. The room, birdemic, samurai cop, chun li, alone in the dark, dead or alive etc. and we always laugh a lot. Terrible movies can be a lot of fun and we always endure it happily. That being said: we turned off Morbius before the half if the movie due to boredom, and went to watch the entirety of the resident evil movies. I can enjoy great movies and the most terrible ones. Morbius is just a void with no merit, a thing you forget 10 seconds after you seen it. I can’t remember a single scene, only how numb it made me feel

    • @sydliminal
      @sydliminal Před 5 měsíci +3

      the resident evil movies are an excellent bad movie choice. they're awful but somehow manage to be interestingly bad/weird and have fun action movie stuff, and some of the visuals are genuinely pretty cool. the first one and apocalypse are definitely the most memorable for me. shout-out to the zombie crows in apocalypse

    • @anothermiddleschoolburnout8816
      @anothermiddleschoolburnout8816 Před 2 měsíci +2

      You should give Velocirpastor a watch if you like bad movies. It was bad on purpose but it kinda worked for a movie with such a goofy premise.

    • @sydliminal
      @sydliminal Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@anothermiddleschoolburnout8816 oh that's going on my letterboxd watchlist

    • @anothermiddleschoolburnout8816
      @anothermiddleschoolburnout8816 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@sydliminal **VFX CAR ON FIRE**

  • @jakelyon2262
    @jakelyon2262 Před 5 měsíci +23

    I think the first Venom movie is looked back on more fondly in hindsight because of the abysmal offerings that came after it. At the time, it was criticised against the juggernaut Marvel movies that came before it. Now it is judged by the colossal failures that have come after it.
    I don't think it was ever a bad movie, but from people who view it from either side, the most consistent complaint is that it was squandered potential.

  • @mrgrumpy888
    @mrgrumpy888 Před 5 měsíci +44

    41:10 Sony fucked up even with their "early 00s" product placement. There's a guy in the subway playing with his PlayStation Portable but that thing came out a year later in 2004.

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo Před 5 měsíci +5

      Maybe Madame Web used her split people powers to steal one from Sony headquarters in the future and bring it back to the present
      (I still have no idea what she's able to do)

    • @calmc9655
      @calmc9655 Před 5 měsíci

      U can just call it a PSP xp

  • @Blast2224
    @Blast2224 Před 5 měsíci +11

    What BAFFLES me, is that we have "Spider-Man Adjacent" stories involving Ben Reilly/Scarlet Spider, Kane/Scarlet Spider, and Jackal. SONY could have made a "SCARLET SPIDER" movie between 2016 and and 2017 to bank off Tom's emerging popularity. Find a Ben Reilly actor to be a "clone" of Tom (discount Tom Holland), and a SLIGHTLY older and hairer version to be Kane. Kane starts as the first imperfect clone who wants to kill Ben for getting the life and appearance he never had, enraged that people would accept Ben as a hero while Kane would always be seen as an ugly errand boy. At the end of Scarlet Spider, Kane and Ben work together to kill Jackal (and his third clone enforcer Spidercide), stopping any further clones from being made off Peter's DNA. At the end of the 2017/2018 movie, it would have been revealed in post credits a San Francisco Eddie Brock reading about "Spider-Men" in NYC, and saying he's happy he's far away.
    December 2017: Scarlet Spider after Homecoming. PG13 with body horror elements. James Wan.
    October 2018: Venom happens, with Riot again being the main villain. No references to Spider-Man or Spider-Men. Rated R.
    Christmas 2018: Into the Spider-Verse
    Summer 2019: Endgame and Far From Home happens.
    October 2019: Scarlet Spider: Hunted comes out with Kraven as the lead villain, wanting to prevent the emergence of Spider-Men despite the absene of Peter Parker. Kraven successfully kills Ben Reilly, causing Kane to adopt the sleeker Scarlet Spider outfit and abandon Ben's previous two costumes. Kraven is imprisoned.
    October 2021: Venom: Maximum Carnage comes out as a true superhero-horror movie. Rated R. Carnage isn't killed.
    Christmas 2021: No Way Home happens.
    June 2022: Scarlet Spider: Minimum Carnage sees the return of Carnage in Texas, forcing Venom to team up with Kane. During this, Julia Carpenter makes a brief appearance showing emerging powers. Carnage isn't destroyed, but Cletus is rendered lobodomized.
    September/October 2022: ARAÑA is released and introduced Ana Corazon as lead, being assisted by Scarlet Spider (Kane). Ana has her exoskeleton ripped out at the end of the movie, by Kraven then attemps to finally kill Kane, before Ana adapts with her new look and grappling hook whips.
    Summer 2023: Across the Spider-Verse
    October 2023: A BETTER AND LESS RUSHED MORBIUS comes out. Scream is the lead symbiote villain, having been created from her research in Carnage's efforts and Morbius's bloodwork. Venom helps him kill her, though in the process, creates TOXIN.
    June 2024: MADAME WEB ties all these characters together: Scarlet-Spider (Kane), a now matured Spider-Girl (Julia Carpenter), and Arana are all discovered by Cassie Web following her blinding and paralysis. A "resurrected" Ben Reilly finds her and claims Venom is trying to kill him (a different version, more faithful to the comics). In addition, the 3rd and final "Spider-Girl" emerges in Mattie Franklin. As Madame Web tries to guide Mattie into her powers, the other 3 try to speed her up to defeat this more monstrous and unhinged version of Venom. It's revealed that the new Ben is actually Spidercide, who survived the first move, and wants to kill Mattie; eventually cleaning up all the "Non Peter" Spiders until he's the only true one left. The two Venoms fuse into one combined form, finally saying goodbye to Tom's version of Eddie Brock. When the "new" Venom changes into human form, it's a younger but more agressive Eddie Brock. All 3 Spider-Girls have emerged. Scarlet-Spider and Venom are the "hero and anti-hero" of Sony's Universe, and Madame Web being the final psychic link to them all.
    10 films. And it could have been amazing by now. It could even be better than the MCU's offerings as the more stylized and sleeker shinier foil to Marvels kid-friendly muted tones.

  • @dustykneez
    @dustykneez Před 5 měsíci +61

    I'm gonna watch this and Eddy Burback's Morbius movie on a loop for the next twenty hours. Absolute masterpieces of commentary.

    • @StinkyF
      @StinkyF Před měsícem

      I love eddy bearback!

  • @hard.g0re
    @hard.g0re Před 4 měsíci +23

    Siblings is crazy 😭😭 "historically they were friends" type beat 💀

    • @angelsunemtoledocabllero5801
      @angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 Před 4 měsíci +1

      "This two characters looked at each other once so now they are gay because I have to make everything gay" type beat.

    • @AcappellaTidbits
      @AcappellaTidbits Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 the two are romantic in quite a few iterations and have a kid together but ok

    • @anothermiddleschoolburnout8816
      @anothermiddleschoolburnout8816 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 They literally kissed.

  • @GwendolynnBY
    @GwendolynnBY Před 5 měsíci +49

    what's wild about the morbius parts of this video, from someone who's never seen the film, is that i just heard matt smith say one line, and it had more life and energy to it than any of jared leto's line deliveries so far.

    • @gracelee5536
      @gracelee5536 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Hearing it was of fresh air 😭

  • @FortheLoveofMonsters
    @FortheLoveofMonsters Před 5 měsíci +175

    they are not siblings…. they are gay, they are in love. sorry I don’t make the rules 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +6

      Based 🤩🤩

    • @cynister7384
      @cynister7384 Před 5 měsíci +56

      @@MooseMedley Venom kisses Eddie in the first movie and at the end of it they say "I love you" to each other. In the second movie when they "break up", Venom goes to a gay rave and realizes that people can accept him for who he is. They have a child in the comics.

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo Před 5 měsíci +5

      ​@@cynister7384I mean I wouldn't call that a child that a couple in love would want... if anything it's more like the result of an, uhhh, "unwanted cuddling"

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@cynister7384 no fuck look at my other comments on this vid it autocorrected from based whyyy 😭😭

    • @cynister7384
      @cynister7384 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@MooseMedley Lmaoo 😭😭

  • @_JoJo_Enjoyer
    @_JoJo_Enjoyer Před 5 měsíci +14

    my dad loves Tom Hardy, and he really liked the Venom movie, but in particular, he liked the "Jump?....Pussy" line so much, that everytime he sugests somethign bald, or someone sugests something bald, he quotes it.
    Dad: So, son, you wanna go on a rollercoaster? JUMP?
    Me: I don't really want to, I'm just not a fan-
    Dad: PUSSY

  • @milesmohrien8964
    @milesmohrien8964 Před 5 měsíci +178

    finally a sane youtuber covering the madame web and morbius sonyverse fiasco

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +15

      I wouldn’t call him sane

    • @flzrian3623
      @flzrian3623 Před 5 měsíci +76

      @@MooseMedleyat least he is the funny type of insane and not the "the woke mind virus has ruined my superhero movies" type of insane

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +14

      @@flzrian3623 oh so you’re spitting facts I see

    • @milesmohrien8964
      @milesmohrien8964 Před 5 měsíci +19

      @@MooseMedley yeah thats what i meant, bad wording. genuine youtuber

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo Před 5 měsíci +31

      ​@@flzrian3623oh those types drive me nuts. They keep rattling on about "THE MESSAGE" when it's more like "clueless execs see that there are less women going to their male-focused movies, so they try so hard to pander to women that it backfires and alienates the original audience while STILL not attracting the new audience they want."

  • @vibrantgray
    @vibrantgray Před 5 měsíci +26

    Could Morbius save Sony’s Spidey Franchise? Who’s to say, release it in theaters again just to make sure

  • @StateBlaze1989
    @StateBlaze1989 Před 5 měsíci +6

    What got me about Madam Web is that they specifically set it in 2003, yet put references in that weren't even from 2003. Like one of the showrunners said they set it in that year as an excuse to use the song Toxic, yet that song came out in 2004. Also, the guy in the subway they have playing a psp? Something they thought so good they put it in the trailer? That console wasn't on store shelves until 2005.

    • @mystic-malevolence
      @mystic-malevolence Před 3 měsíci

      Love the idea that Sony got the release date of their own products wrong.
      But, to be fair, the actual dates don't matter. It just needs to be a year that the general audience will believe if they are not familiar with the specific date.

  • @mordo1191
    @mordo1191 Před 5 měsíci +22

    I remember hearing someone theorize that the reason the two writers from morbius got hired was because they're easy for studios to work with and will comply for any changes that the studios demand. I don't know if thats true but it would make a lot of sense as to why the movies are... of doubious quality

    • @thardump859
      @thardump859 Před 4 měsíci

      It's because they are not human. They are mindless machines. They are f**king robots man.

  • @SpoopySquid
    @SpoopySquid Před 5 měsíci +51

    Cheerful reminder that comic Eddie and Venom canonically get it on and have a kid together

  • @Spookybluelights
    @Spookybluelights Před 5 měsíci +27

    As a fan, I would like to point out that the 2017 Power Rangers movie went through quite a few writers and those guys only really have credits on that script because of union rules. From what I know John Gatins' version of the script reflects most of what appears in the final cut of the movie. Also that movie is super underrated and people should watch it.

  • @majestikmarii7291
    @majestikmarii7291 Před 5 měsíci +10

    speaking of continuing to hire people they shouldn't, jared leto has been cast in the new Tron reboot
    this man needs to be blacklisted from hollywood honestly

  • @sunflowerboinagachika
    @sunflowerboinagachika Před 5 měsíci +3

    I was expecting this to be some sort of monotone put-together video essay, so the chaotic casual vibe was a pleasant treat. Subscribed.

  • @cobalt.studios
    @cobalt.studios Před 5 měsíci +33

    So happy to hear someone talk about the coffee guy in the background of that one scene in Morbius😂 my favorite character

  • @tjrune3432
    @tjrune3432 Před 5 měsíci +14

    Carnage would have been so much better if they kept the wig. They really needed to roll with that. Woody could have pulled it off for sure.

  • @outhereinsquamish
    @outhereinsquamish Před 5 měsíci +43

    Jared felt a kinship with those creatures tho.

    • @MooseMedley
      @MooseMedley Před 5 měsíci +8

      Erm 🤓🤓☝️☝️ I feel ….. a kinship with deez critters 🫶💞💞🤓🤓🤓

  • @gatsbysgarage8389
    @gatsbysgarage8389 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Reminds me of what my dad said as we walked out of the theater after seeing Thor love and thunder - “it was terrible… I loved it!”

  • @MyNameIsBrydie
    @MyNameIsBrydie Před 5 měsíci +8

    Imagine coming onto the INTERNET and being SO WRONG about the relationship between MARRIED COUPLE VENOM AND EDDIE BROCK
    peak engagement strat tbh

  • @КГБКолДжорджКостанца

    Madame Web was just the 2002 Catwoman of this decade

    • @oneinathousand2156
      @oneinathousand2156 Před 5 měsíci +3

      And Elektra.

    • @fansee1368
      @fansee1368 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Morbius was pretty close to being Daredevil but there wasn't enough Evanescence montages

    • @orionthomas967
      @orionthomas967 Před 5 měsíci +9

      @@fansee1368Morbius would’ve been vastly improved had there been Evanescence montages tbh

  • @anapereirabastos1271
    @anapereirabastos1271 Před 5 měsíci +29

    pinely is my favorite guy to listen while im eating breakfast... such wise words (its 9PM where i am btw)

  • @brianadoesart5195
    @brianadoesart5195 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Love Venom 2 just straight up having Eddie and Venom break up, lmao. Venom 2 didn't even try to pretend it wasn't doing the romantic comedy. It just went "Yup Venom is literally doing the stereotypical girlfriend thing and throwing Eddie's stuff out the window"

  • @ArturGlass.C
    @ArturGlass.C Před 5 měsíci +24

    Have they considered just hiring a renown comic book writer to create a fully new original iconic hero character and put them in the same settings and they're now the equivalent of spider man and defeats the same villains. Except it's not spiderman and they have their own completely new story, flaw, power, backstory and personality. They first try releasing a couple comic books, and eventually movies. I mean they clearly have money to throw at stuff.
    Like there's a lot of spidermen in the spiderverse some more recent than others.
    It feels like people don't mind showing up for different new spidermen as long as they've got something to bring to the table.
    Why not a new not-spiderman but still in this universe ?
    I mean obviously that implies doing something original. But legally I think they are allowed to right ? As long as the guy isn't a spiderman.

    • @Nekoszowa
      @Nekoszowa Před 5 měsíci +7

      Because Spiderman is a very popular character, I'm also convinced they are riding the nostalgia train just like Disney making shitty remakes of their old movies while having the majority of their new productions suck badly. But unfortunately the original fans of those movies start to lose interest because of that and so in return superhero movies as a whole are flopping more and more

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 Před 5 měsíci +3

      That's too smart for Sony.

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo Před 5 měsíci +2

      Comic book writing != film writing.

    • @ArturGlass.C
      @ArturGlass.C Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@KetsubanSolo I mean yeah but the movie writers they hire aren't qualified either. At least the comic book writer should logically know how to write and design a compelling character then they can build on from that.

    • @mttylerdurden9
      @mttylerdurden9 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@ArturGlass.C the mainstream doesn't care about new superheroes with original identities. if they did Static Shock, Radiant Black, Sideways, and other heroes would be cultural icons instead of cult classics. people would rather stick with a property they're sick of than try something new.

  • @icetide9411
    @icetide9411 Před 4 měsíci +7

    I think what makes the Venom movies really work is that despite them looking dark and grungy like all of them, and parts of the plot aligning to that, Eddie and Venom are so NOT dark and grungy. They're goofy, brutal and deadly but still really goofy. I mean they wrote Venom an entire subplot based on a coming out story and presented them like some gay couple, it's hilarious. When it comes to other antiheroes they normally go all-in on one side (Morbius all grunge, Deadpool all goof), but Venom is a goof in the middle of grunge, which creates fun watch

  • @israellai
    @israellai Před 5 měsíci +15

    20:45 and then Marvel immediately responded with "nope" and sent Eddie straight back where he came from

  • @chibi013
    @chibi013 Před 5 měsíci +12

    describing the symbiote and Eddie as "siblings" PLEASE

  • @nanyabish
    @nanyabish Před 4 měsíci +2

    There’s a movie critic here in Brazil, Isabella Boscov, and she reviewed Matt Smith’s participation in Morbius perfectly: “is a gambling debt. Only with someone threatening to break your legs you accept to join a project like this.”

  • @hrodvithit
    @hrodvithit Před 5 měsíci +5

    Imagine how annoying it would be if your arch nemesis could see into the future and would just keep hunting you down to hit you with a car. You literally wouldnt be able to escape and they would be able to find you anywhere and set up to be able to hit you with a car.
    This is what truly makes Madame Webb so terrifying.

  • @Gluglugfishe
    @Gluglugfishe Před 5 měsíci +14

    I think the main problem with superhero movies in the big cinema universes now is that they take themselves a bit too seriously, already the costumes (which people have made memes of for a while now) just feel like an "edgy" version of a superhero costume. It's like they're embarassed of admitting that that's quite literally what they are: superhero movies???
    When I was younger I'd be really into those movies for like 2-3 years but then became so bored of it all being so soulless and just overpolished. Then, years later I got into Tokusatsu and my love for superhero shows/movies came back again because it's so full of love and soul and character and I just love practical effects and goofy bad CGI and stories that are so intense and dramatic and the next moment someone pulls out a bop-it sword (that is a marketable toy)... It's just so much fun and oddly enough has made me more sad at times than any dramatic scene in a Marvel movie (for example) ever could, just because it FEELS so much more like a proper story and interesting characters

    • @mttylerdurden9
      @mttylerdurden9 Před 5 měsíci +2

      superhero movies take themselves to seriously? have you seen most of the superhero films that have come out? Shazam 1 and 2,The Suicide Squad, Aquaman 1 and 2,blue beetle, WW 1984, most of the MCU movies for the past 7 haven't been "edgy" or taken themselves seriously. the closest we've gotten to anything "edgy" was the batman, Joker, Echo,The boys, Invincible, and ZS justice League. people have criticized the MCU for no longer taking risks or any variety in their films.

    • @AwsomenessRain
      @AwsomenessRain Před 5 měsíci +7

      modern superhero movies are deathly afraid of committing to the bit, and are seemingly embarrassed to be comic book adaptations in the first place, so they feel the need to act like they’re above it by adding quips every other line.

    • @angelsunemtoledocabllero5801
      @angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 Před 4 měsíci

      Yes, when in Spiderman No way home the Green Goblin started to say his memes that's what I thought that this movie is too serious.

    • @PhoebeTheFairy56
      @PhoebeTheFairy56 Před měsícem

      ​@@mttylerdurden9 too seriously as in not being willing to just be weird.

  • @megalomari
    @megalomari Před 5 měsíci +9

    I LOVE VENOM it was so silly and I had a great time !!
    ..........Also Pinely I love you man but siblings????? those two are married for real

  • @prince_nox
    @prince_nox Před 5 měsíci +5

    "they have an almost sibling relationship"
    uhh...should we tell him or?? 😂

  • @iamthemurray16
    @iamthemurray16 Před 5 měsíci +14

    I feel like its just because they needed to make a movie to keep the rights. Like what WB does when they shelve fully finished movies and tax write it off. Its not about entertainment anymore, corporations are just out to squeeze every penny they can. Even when it doesn't make sense

    • @luvhair255
      @luvhair255 Před 5 měsíci

      They got a decently competent crew to do this movie. The cinematography and editing is baffling given who they have. I think you are on to something about tax write-offs though. I'm not sure how much is 'we're tanking this for more tax write-offs' or complete meddling in the entire process by one or two of the producers.

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah I totally agree. They know they can make millions off MCU Spider-Man by doing absolutely nothing, so as long as they shart out... SOMETHING, they keep getting free money from Disney.
      Or at least they did, dunno how much more stinkbombs the MCU can release.

  • @airconditionednul
    @airconditionednul Před 5 měsíci +5

    venom 1 and 2 are my favourite romance movies

  • @themusicaljunkie37
    @themusicaljunkie37 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I kept asking the question again and again as I was watching Madame Web... "Why are you actively trying to ignore mentioning spiderman?"

    • @annabelcunningham2848
      @annabelcunningham2848 Před 5 měsíci +5

      I think it was implied that Ben was his uncle but why didn't they just say the babies name was Peter??? Is it a deal they made with Disney?

  • @antares5000
    @antares5000 Před 5 měsíci +5

    The narration for the madam web section is GOLD I'm crying laughing. Like- the depressing ass situation, the anger at the writers, the demostrative reenactment of the scenes, the chaos explaining the future visions... majestic.

  • @itzelpretzel
    @itzelpretzel Před 5 měsíci +7

    you are now mandated to make a video apologizing for misinterpreting the eddie x venom dynamic followed by a declaration of their love through a dramatic reading of at least one novel-length fanfiction

  • @kwowka
    @kwowka Před 5 měsíci +8

    I adore the venom movies they are silly, the people making them clearly had a lot of fun, they aren’t afraid to be political, also it’s literally the first time we got gay people as main characters in a marvel movie and it’s some random dude having an alien fall in love with him

  • @ShopkeeperGreg
    @ShopkeeperGreg Před 5 měsíci +6

    I coughed up my tortellini when the ad came up, i was not expecting this incredible segway. Thank you Pinely.

  • @SandwitchZebra
    @SandwitchZebra Před měsícem +3

    Carnage being Venom’s son is even funnier in the source material. Carnage constantly refers to Venom as “daddy” and the Venom Symbiote specifically hates it because it birthed it. The entirety of their dynamic can be boiled down to Venom not wanting to pay child support. And then Carnage has his own symbiote child and he and Venom set aside their differences for a while because they hate it even more.
    That’s not even going into Venom’s seven other kids, his clone, Carnage’s two other kids, and the mindless clone of him made when Eddie had cancer. Oh, and it turns out Symbiotes leave behind pieces of themselves whenever they leave people, which happened to Eddie’s girlfriend, and her Venom bits were reincarnated into her son, meaning Eddie’s biological human son is also Venom’s. I love comics.

  • @_MrTV
    @_MrTV Před 5 měsíci +6

    9:13 Sir! That's a lobster 🤣😂

  • @glynsareia
    @glynsareia Před 5 měsíci +4

    they had the biggest falling out scene which was literally a break-up, in the old Venom comics; Venom literally got depressed cause Eddie didn't want to fuse with him anymore so they split up and Venom just went to literally scream on a cliff until Eddie eventually came back, they made up and the dialogue was actually pretty...romantically heartwarming?
    10/10 relatable, love them

  • @what1fun1v3rs3
    @what1fun1v3rs3 Před 5 měsíci +7

    HE TURNED HIMSELF INTO A PICKLE WITH NORD VPN

  • @birtarb07
    @birtarb07 Před 5 měsíci +6

    If the movement of the camera is moving down, it's a tilt, not a pan 🫣

    • @aj7058
      @aj7058 Před 5 měsíci

      nerd

    • @birtarb07
      @birtarb07 Před 5 měsíci

      @@aj7058 I work as a camera operator and DP so I should know 🫠

    • @birtarb07
      @birtarb07 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@aj7058 It's literally my job to know as a working director of photography and camera operator

    • @meias.
      @meias. Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@birtarb07smh how dare you know the basics of your job, you nerd

  • @the.lizardking
    @the.lizardking Před 5 měsíci +6

    Fun fact riz ahmed (the actor who plays drake) is indeed also a rapper/ musician in real life and had my favorite album of 2020 that had an accompanying short film that won an oscar so imo hes way better than Canadian Drake

  • @diegomnds
    @diegomnds Před 5 měsíci +7

    My fav part is how Madame Web kill the ambulance guy by talking to him

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo Před 5 měsíci +2

      Also she probably killed a handful of civilians by ramming into not-Spiderman with various vehicles

  • @carterhoule7113
    @carterhoule7113 Před 5 měsíci +8

    eddie and venom were just gay in the comics, it was hard for them to state it explicitly, but they've stated its a love story explicitly in the comics. i definitely think they were going more for gay couple than siblings in that second movie haha

  • @inrodu_1027
    @inrodu_1027 Před 5 měsíci +4

    your venom performance was so beautiful im so emotional

  • @purpleberry3564
    @purpleberry3564 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Also Venom is an amazing love story!!

  • @askinredroads5132
    @askinredroads5132 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I'm so glad someone else sees the true beauty of Venom: Let There Be Carnage.

  • @brianadoesart5195
    @brianadoesart5195 Před 5 měsíci +2

    To be fair, Venom 2 also came out in 2021 and was one of the first big movies to go back to theaters after the first waves of the COVID pandemic - it probably still would have made less than the first one because that first film was such an unexpected hit,, but I do think that probably factors into the lower profits.

  • @Che1Angelius
    @Che1Angelius Před 5 měsíci +3

    I saw venom during jury duty, the best way to spent my time

  • @meganvincent5381
    @meganvincent5381 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I would say that she-venom scene awakened something in me but I knew from the moment I heard this movie was coming out I was gonna watch it for unwholesome reasons

  • @animula6908
    @animula6908 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Some stranger buying the seat next to mine in an empty theater is my nightmare. I’m sorry this aspect of the horror wasn’t explored further in this piece.

  • @dr.balance3377
    @dr.balance3377 Před 5 měsíci +4

    ...and they were roommates

  • @JamesLawner
    @JamesLawner Před 5 měsíci +3

    Dakota Johnson should’ve been Spider-Woman in a solo movie with a better director and better writers.

  • @queenelizabethiisleftshoe6240
    @queenelizabethiisleftshoe6240 Před 5 měsíci +6

    It was set in the early 2000s so that there’s enough of a time jump between movies for Dakota Johnson’s character to be old enough to be *madame* web in the movies that take place in modern day.

  • @hannahyamauchi839
    @hannahyamauchi839 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Therapist: Rapping Orr isn't real he can't hurt you
    Rapping Orr:

  • @EddieNoon
    @EddieNoon Před 5 měsíci +8

    Gotta love these amazing tutorials from Pinely!