Leonardo Officina Italiana Furore vs Furore Grande Comparison Review

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024

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  • @greatlakescruiser5720
    @greatlakescruiser5720 Před 3 lety +6

    coffee and a new vid from Doug.....great way to start the day

  • @saraellman7844
    @saraellman7844 Před 2 lety +1

    This a pen I have wanted for a long time. After watching your video I am about to order myself a Christmas present!

  • @mannylamont5757
    @mannylamont5757 Před 3 lety +2

    Recently purchased the Monteverde Ritma, Strata, and Innova. Like the Innova, Ritma a lot. Handwriting is really improved with those particular pens.

  • @michellelu1997
    @michellelu1997 Před 3 lety +1

    Can't wait for them to switch completely to Jowo nibs. Your writing experience with the new nibs sounds very promising... I have been holding off from purchasing a MZ Blue Hawaii due to their nib issues, and when they make the full switch I will definitely go for it. Thank you for making these informative videos!

  • @Sonicman415
    @Sonicman415 Před 3 lety +1

    Great review. I’m rediscovering my love of fountain pens. I have many lady’s vintage pens. New pens have really come back into style from 20 or so years ago..

  • @yominrak7975
    @yominrak7975 Před 2 lety +1

    I just checked the price in my country's currency for the Furore grande steel nib it is half the price of my Pelikan M800 Blue O' Blue (and that is after the 10% discount lol), and to upgrade to 14K-585 nib the price doubles which is almost as expensive as my M800. I love piston filler fountain pens but taking into account that the nib is made from Germany I feel getting a Germany made pen - Pelikan - is more worth it than this attractive Furore Grande (really attractive, your pen glitters like stars....I was thinking if my eyes were playing tricks on me...), so I am contented by watching your review whenever my urge of buying one arises (No more impulse buying haha).

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 2 lety +2

      Wait until you see the Momento Zero Grande Earth Magic 2.0!

  • @sushanart
    @sushanart Před 4 měsíci +2

    I just love the white one! 🥰 I hesitated when you mentioned staining on the white one, but then you said you could fill it up with a syringe as not to stain it and that made my day. So now it's back as a serious contender for my birthday pen. Choosing between the white, the blue emerald and the aquapetra. I'll probably get all of them to be honest but the white will be my first Leonardo that's for sure. 😇🩷🙏🙌

  • @ichirofakename
    @ichirofakename Před 3 lety +2

    I admire your ongoing enthusiasm for new pens, given the hundreds you already have. Having recently settled on the 3 pens that do what I want to do, I'm beginning to feel a little jadedness creeping in. Also I made the mistake of adding up (approximately) how much I have invested in pens (~$500), and that total is more than enough.

    • @Wreneagle
      @Wreneagle Před 3 lety

      Just out of curiosity, what are these three pens?

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @ichirofakename
      @ichirofakename Před 3 lety +1

      @@Wreneagle Pilot with Posting Nib (in an Elite) [$60], Pilot Petit1 [$4], Pilot Parallel (modified by Toronto Pen Company) [$35]. Effectively small, medium, and large, for drawing. I only consider the Petit1 suitable for writing. But then I don't really write with pens, I write with my laptop.

    • @Wreneagle
      @Wreneagle Před 3 lety

      @@ichirofakename I'd never heard of the "posting nib" before. Looks intriguing. Looks like the right nib for a pen one wants to able to use on anything.

    • @ichirofakename
      @ichirofakename Před 3 lety +1

      @@Wreneagle There are other super fine nibs out there that produce similarly thin lines, but I am convinced the PO feathers the least of any nib. When drawing on something absorbent like watercolor paper (or, apparently, writing on a cheap Japanese post card), it's the best. Unfortunately only available in gold, and quite hard to find here in the west.

  • @JuceePeachz67
    @JuceePeachz67 Před 3 lety

    Great video. I have my tea while watching this long awaited video 😃. I truly agree with your comment about how your handwriting changes based on the pen (width, length & weight). As always, Mr. Doug, thank you for enthusiasm and in depth review of your fountain pens. Have a great weekend.

  • @lucm6476
    @lucm6476 Před 3 lety

    The acrylics are really stunning . Thanks for showing that comparaison . 👍

  • @amyr.862
    @amyr.862 Před 3 lety

    The family is reunited. Side by side those two pens are like the sea and the foam. Pretty little chonkers. I'm glad The Salty One's original nib is working now.
    I've been under the weather this week and this was enjoyable to watch in my blanket fort on a rainy Saturday.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety

      Get better!

    • @amyr.862
      @amyr.862 Před 3 lety

      Thank you. After a few days of drinking my calories I got my appetite back Saturday. And I don't hurt! Yay.

  • @greyareaRK1
    @greyareaRK1 Před 3 lety +1

    Okay, I'm officially smitten with the Furore Grande in blue. The clip doesn't look out of proportion to me (though I'm not generally a fan of the little wheel design).

  • @ajoydas-Watch-It
    @ajoydas-Watch-It Před 2 lety +1

    I limit myself to 12 pens to cover most colors on the color wheel, I buy pens to fit the ink rather than the other way around as I only use Rohrer and Sketch Waterproof Ink for Watercolor works mixed with Ink. The Leonardo furore non grande deep purple took the purple spot. Great Pen can't complain and as most leonardos pretty stunning, only other Leonardo I own is a Yellow/Orange Messenger which I also like very much. Wanted to see the differrence to the grande so thx for the nice coverage.

  • @tristansalem3
    @tristansalem3 Před 3 lety +3

    "and when you place these two pens next to each other..."
    wow these look almost exactly the same!
    "you immediately see how different they are"
    DOH!

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      That’s visual perspective for you. Trust the numbers.

  • @chrisrap52
    @chrisrap52 Před 3 lety +1

    You are migrating upscale. Were you able to choose the pen & nib gifted? Would you say these are worth the X$ more than a comparable PenBBS model? How do you clean out the Grande when changing inks? What size is the Jowo nib? The Bock nib? I enjoy seeing Delts traits in these models. Glad to see you expanding your pen experiences.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety

      Thanks, Chris. No, the pen was a surprise, colour and nib. That is a great topic for a video; Penbbs vs Leonardo Worth the $$? I'd have to say the Leonardo acrylics rival the very best of Penbbs. When I change inks on the Furore Grande, I'll let you know. I've got a feeling I'll be pumping and pumping because that nib and feed doesn't feel like it will budge and the ebonite feed feels fragile. I put some measurements of the Grande nib in the first looks video I did last week; czcams.com/video/OJxCdWI8JNM/video.html

  • @anniebus105
    @anniebus105 Před 3 lety

    Fun match-up! Thank you, Doug!

  • @March22012
    @March22012 Před 3 lety

    My handwriting changes, sometimes significantly, with the pen I use. That’s why we love to try so many different pens, I guess...at any reasonable price point! I’m still madly in love with that colour!

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety

      Thanks, J! And it isn't really that colour; much more green than on camera.

  • @jackhernandez4217
    @jackhernandez4217 Před 3 lety

    Great Review Doug!

  • @santauxia
    @santauxia Před 3 lety +1

    Those are great pens and deserved this great review. Grail pens indeed.

  • @monopolylife
    @monopolylife Před 3 lety

    Beautiful pen! And thank you for showing size comparison with a Jinhao 159. It is slightly larger than the Jinhao. And as I’ve said before I have a number of the 159’s. Being retired and on a fixed income the Grande is still expensive for me. But I enjoy watching your review and living through them.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      The Jinhao 159 is an awesome pen for the price. I love that you can put almost any #6 nib into it and even a Zebra G flex if you want!

    • @martinlebl631
      @martinlebl631 Před 3 lety +1

      Well then we are at least vicariously living through pen reviews. We all want more of the precious than we can actually afford. At least these are here to slake our pen lust.

    • @yominrak7975
      @yominrak7975 Před 2 lety

      @@InkquiringMinds I concur :D So far... Jinhao nibs have never disappointed me, I got a lot of Jinhao pens and one of them is 159 which writes buttery smooth on any paper... but... it seems writing with Jinhao pens is "boring" hehe, not that Jinhao is not good, but I think my vanity has kicked in to make me feel writing with a cheap pen is boring...

  • @davidmcguigan5497
    @davidmcguigan5497 Před 3 lety

    Thanks, Doug! Interesting point about handwriting and different pens. For me, Wing Sung 3013/Paili 013, weight
    is good and the nibs just seem to be kind to me, always write well with them, and really inexpensive to boot. Good point about affordable "grail" pens. I agree Leonardo is in that category where a hobbit like me could think about it. Brings to mind one of SBRE Brown's vids in which he talks about the potential for disappointment if one assumes that a super expensive pen will write exponentially better than an inexpensive one. I have sub-ten dollar pens that write wonderfully and that helps in weighing possibilities.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      Once you get past the $20 mark, everything after that is a luxury item.

  • @JoelTurrell
    @JoelTurrell Před 3 lety

    Una recensione grande ! I like your point (pun intended) about the impact of the price of the gold nib on the Furore; on the Furore Grande, it seems like a more reasonable investment.

  • @ChrisWMan1
    @ChrisWMan1 Před rokem +1

    I love my Furore and would love to get a Furore Grande but I just hate the engraving on the barrel.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před rokem +1

      They don't do that now.

    • @ChrisWMan1
      @ChrisWMan1 Před 10 měsíci

      As far as I know (and see in pictures) they only changed it on the "standard" models.

  • @xzzdm
    @xzzdm Před 3 lety

    Great review and beautiful pens! I am surprised that the new Grande's medium size nib writes only at 0.4 mm! That sounds like an EF.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      Very close to .5mm which is more like a Western Fine.

  • @martinlebl631
    @martinlebl631 Před 3 lety +1

    I see the orange Inkbuddy early on in the video. Any announcements on that front?

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety

      I've made a few successful Ink Buddy designs so far; that orange block that takes a Robert Oster bottle and four pens up to the size of a MZ or M800, an ink cozy that stabilizes a bottle of Robert Oster ink while you use it and a stackable ink sample tray that takes 45 ink vials. All still working prototypes.

    • @martinlebl631
      @martinlebl631 Před 3 lety

      @@InkquiringMinds Glad to hear that you are making progress. That is the beauty of 3D printing, as prototypes can be tested and tweaked in real world often until you arrive at the design that you want.

  • @edwardwiper1323
    @edwardwiper1323 Před 3 lety

    Great video comparison Doug infact you have confirm my thinking that i do not need the furore grande as i am quite happy with the standard furore.I think i`ll invest some of the money in another pen.O yes i`ve been looking😊

  • @RichardSmith-uw6st
    @RichardSmith-uw6st Před 3 lety

    Beautiful and stunning, enjoy them
    The acrylics are so remarkable to look at. Put them on Chris R's spinning little platform and just watch and enjoy. Thanks for the video

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety

      I should do that!

    • @martinlebl631
      @martinlebl631 Před 3 lety

      @@InkquiringMinds I mean conferences, conventions, home shopping network all do it, as it really shows off the bling. And these Leonardos do bring the bling.

  • @ericpmoss
    @ericpmoss Před 3 lety

    I spent an hour trying one, then the other, then the one, then the other.... must have driven the poor guy nuts watching me not decide. So... I bought a red Furore and a Hawaii Furore Grande, both with stub nibs. I have smaller hands and for some reason find them a tiny bit more comfy, but only a tiny bit more, than the Momento Zero, and FAR easier to use than the Momento Zero Pura. The Pura are really nice looking, and the blue ones are deeper blue than they are on the screen, which is really nice, but although one would expect the Pura's plastic to be grippier, it is much less grippy IMO. In person, the Momento Zero's 3 cap rings look better than the 2 on the Furores, but the shattoyance on the Furores is really really nice. I like both pen shapes, and might have gone for the Momento Zero's 3 cap rings if they had the same material as the Furore. The other nice thing about the Furores is that even for small hands, both regular and grande are super comfy, and I might even like the Grande a bit more -- to me it just disappears in the hand.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      I agree. I think the Furore (both sizes) get slimmer towards the back end more than the MZ (both sizes) and therefore become more comfortable in the hand.

    • @ericpmoss
      @ericpmoss Před 3 lety

      @@InkquiringMinds After another 5 days of daily practice (and buying a red Furore and green Momento Zero to complete my color-coding), I have decided... the Grande is the way to go even for someone with smallish hands like mine, and definitely for people with larger hands. The biggest thing is the ebonite feed. The finish is just a bit more perfect, and the nib is just a bit more QCd, even in steel. The slightly larger diameter makes me use a little less finger control and a bit more of my whole hand/arm, and that makes my writing with the stub more uniform. The smaller pens feed ink just fine to the 1.1mm stub, but the Grande could easily feed the music nib at full spread. Just awesome. Would I complain if I could only have the regulars? No. I'd get the steel nib tuned a bit if the particular sample needed it, and see if they could install an ebonite feed if I was feeling rich.

  • @jamerelbe
    @jamerelbe Před 3 lety

    Thanks Dug, I've been looking forward to this comparison. Might still stick with my Moonman M800s though - unless they come out with a M800 Grande? 😉

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      I highly doubt that although a few more colour/acrylic choices might be nice in an M800.

    • @jamerelbe
      @jamerelbe Před 3 lety

      @@InkquiringMinds You never know though, do you, what pen Moonman will, ahem, "pay tribute to" next?

    • @martinlebl631
      @martinlebl631 Před 3 lety

      @@InkquiringMinds They already make piston fillers, so why not a piston filled M800. Would be fun. Their new models come out of left field as they are very different from each other, so who knows. Certainly wouldn't be surprise by batch of new colors as that is very easy change.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety

      @@jamerelbe They have already taken on Montblanc with the Moonman M1000.

  • @Detman101
    @Detman101 Před 3 lety

    Wow, that's a big pen!
    Compared to the Salt it looks waaaaaay bigger than the other video.

  • @richardc6932
    @richardc6932 Před 3 lety +4

    You bring up an issue that somewhat bothers me. Of the pens that I have inked, each has it’s own style and changes my handwriting style. Some days are diamonds and other days...well you know! I form my letters differently from one to another and ink choices effect my mood. Maybe that’s a good reason to own several (or many), in order to suit the day.🤔

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      Good point! That is a great rationalization along with "I need a pen to match my many moods". :)

  • @MichelleUretsky
    @MichelleUretsky Před 3 lety

    Letting you know that the Furore Grande comes with a Bock nib out of box, not JoWo. Also, the feed is not glued in, it is friction-fit.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, I mentioned that this was a specially sent Furore Grande. Salvatore Matrone, the designer of the pen, specifically fitted a Jowo nib to this pen and asked me to announce to everyone that, starting January 1, 2021, Leonardo will ship all models of Leonardo pens with Jowo nibs and not Bock. I specifically ask Salvatore if this was a Bock or a Jowo and he said it was definitely a Jowo. So, you are correct that if you buy a Furore Grande right now, they will be Bock. But after January 1, they will be Jowo. I figured the feed was glued in - I was NOT going to try to unscrew it! LOL

    • @MichelleUretsky
      @MichelleUretsky Před 3 lety +1

      @@InkquiringMinds got ya ;). I was interrupted and didn’t get that far 🤣. Good to know. And yes, friction fit ;) so you should be good.

    • @MichelleUretsky
      @MichelleUretsky Před 3 lety

      Do you know why they’re switching over? I know they use JoWo on the Messenger, but just wondering why the switch on all of the pens.
      Also, I have heard the same about the clip looking small, but, in all honesty, I still think it looks very nice on that pen. I don’t think it would look weird or out-of-place if you didn’t know what the clip looked like on the regular Furore. I feel like the angle at which it ascends might have the clip stick out more as it reaches the middle of the pen, making it too “fat.” It definitely still, to me, looks nice in its own right. But, I think that’s definitely a personal preference (and, again, one may not notice if they don’t have both pens next to each other).

  • @robertreid7221
    @robertreid7221 Před 3 lety

    I'm affraid I'll only ever be the poor orphan with his nose pressed against the pen shop window on these pens Doug, but as an ardent aesthete I can appreciate their beaty ✌❤ Rob

    • @robertreid7221
      @robertreid7221 Před 3 lety

      Oops nearly forgot Doug, my dearest darling said order that Moonman M800 so it will be sure to be here for Christmas. Ain't she a sweety ?

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety

      Excellent! Don't open until Dec 25! LOL

  • @djc8744
    @djc8744 Před rokem +1

    leonardo blue is identical to diamine asa blue not kom-peki. at least mine is...kom-peki is a lighter blue

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před rokem +1

      They are very similar in colour. However, the Diamine Asa Blue is a MUCH drier ink than Kon-Peki or Leonardo.

  • @kevinlandon7578
    @kevinlandon7578 Před 3 lety

    I love the Grande and would buy it 1st! Good value for money spent.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      Good choice!

    • @kevinlandon7578
      @kevinlandon7578 Před 3 lety

      @@InkquiringMinds , I am saving my money for a custom pen I am having built for me.with a M1000 broad nib

    • @martinlebl631
      @martinlebl631 Před 3 lety

      Many online shops now seem to be out if stock. And the purple with the rose gold trim seems to be gone now as well. So I think these are flying off the virtual shelves. They are pricey, but good value compared to other Italian flagship pens.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety

      @@martinlebl631 Leonardo doesn't use a distributor. So, all retailers are "out of stock" as they order directly from Leonardo when they get an order or they have to speculate on how many to stock and it is always too few.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      @@kevinlandon7578 That's one graily Grail pen Kevin!

  • @bradbeth63
    @bradbeth63 Před 3 lety

    Is there contact info for Jack Hernandez? Thanks

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      Hey Brad. Yes, you can contact Jack on Instagram as jackokun

    • @bradbeth63
      @bradbeth63 Před 3 lety

      Thanks for the quick response Doug. Enjoy your CZcams.! Long time FB user.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety

      @@bradbeth63 Thanks, Brad!

  • @Raul1971xxx
    @Raul1971xxx Před 3 lety +1

    Hi Dough.. Hmm.. For my taste, that ebony feed looks a bit ugly..

    • @stephanfeinen3923
      @stephanfeinen3923 Před 3 lety +1

      Ebonite feeds have to be cut from solid ebonite whereas the standard plastic feeds are injection molded which allows finer details. Yes the ebonite feeds of my vintage Pelikans also look a bit coarse but they are better than plastic. Ebonite is better suited for inks as it is hydrophilic. Ebonite feeds have a lower tendency to dry out avoiding skipping when starting to write and the ink flow is a bit better. There are good plastic feeds with properties similar to ebonite but most are just standard plastic which is ok in most pens. My opinion is that the difference ebonite vs. plastic is more prominent with broader nibs than with fine ones as the broader ones require a larger ink flow which can be better controlled with an ebonite feed.

    • @Raul1971xxx
      @Raul1971xxx Před 3 lety +1

      @@stephanfeinen3923 Aha.. Good Info.

    • @InkquiringMinds
      @InkquiringMinds  Před 3 lety +1

      I don't mind the looks, especially on a big nib.

    • @Raul1971xxx
      @Raul1971xxx Před 3 lety +1

      @@InkquiringMinds 👍😊🇪🇸

    • @martinlebl631
      @martinlebl631 Před 3 lety

      @@InkquiringMinds I like the flatter scalloped shape of the ebonite nib as it showcases the nib more. (Not always the case with ebonite nibs, but often enough, especially with the larger nibs.) Plus you can heat set ebonite feeds to conform to the nib if necessary.