The Enigma of Ancient Elam - Part I: The Proto-Elamite and Old Elamite Periods (3500-1500 BC)

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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
  • Located in what’s today southwestern and southern Iran, the ancient country that most of us today know as Elam emerged as a dynamic and influential civilization that has left an indelible mark on the tapestry of human history. From its earliest origins as a collection of city-states and principalities in the 4th millennium BC to its peak as a formidable empire, Elam's complex history is one of resilience, innovation, power politics and ultimately in many areas, tragedy.
    In Part I, we’ll delve into the annals of Elam's early past and discover the origins of Elamite civilization, art, politics, and its growth as an important military power and commercial conduit that connected east and west.
    Contents:
    00:00 Introduction
    01:50 Where was Elam and who are the Elamites?
    07:38 Proto-Elamite Culture
    10:15 The Mysterious Proto-Elamite Script
    12:23 Trade and War with Ancient Sumer
    15:40 Elam Under the Akkadian and Awan Dynasties
    23:50 The Oldest Elamite Document and Treaty?
    26:51 Puzur-Inshushinak
    29:03 The Linear Elamite Script
    32:35 Elam Under the Third Dynasty of Ur
    35:55 The Shimashki Dynasty
    42:54 From the Shimashkis to the Sukkalmahs
    57:11 Thank You and Channel Patrons
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    Sources and Suggested Reading:
    The Archaeology of Elam, 2nd Edition - D.T. Potts
    The Elamite World - Ed. by Javier Álvarez-Mon, Gian Pietro Basello and Yasmina Wicks
    The Art of Elam - Javier Álvarez-Mon
    The Archaeology of Iran from the Palaeolithic to the Achaemenid Empire - Roger Matthews and Hassan Fazeli Nashli
    Elam and Persia - Ed. by Javier Álvarez-Mon and Mark B. Garrison
    A History of Babylon, 2200 BC - AD 75 - Paul-Alain Beaulieu
    King Hammurabi of Babylon - Marc Van De Mieroop
    Hammurabi of Babylon - Dominique Charpin
    Civilizations of the Ancient Near East Vol. III - Ed. by Jack Sasson
    Machinimas created using Total War: Rome 2 Age of Bronze mod
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Komentáře • 380

  • @Manic-Main
    @Manic-Main Před 11 měsíci +168

    Hell yeh. 1 hour program on Elam. Let’s goooooo

  • @fanzy1338
    @fanzy1338 Před 11 měsíci +39

    This video is by far the most researched and detailed presentation of the Elamite civilization. Great job 👏

    • @muslim2k
      @muslim2k Před 11 měsíci

      You've seen all such videos available on CZcams?

    • @fanzy1338
      @fanzy1338 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@muslim2k Yes

    • @aspenrebel
      @aspenrebel Před měsícem

      Never heard of them before, until this.

  • @IranTalk
    @IranTalk Před 11 měsíci +92

    Excellent work, Cy! Content like this is what makes your channel standout compared to others.

    • @JustGrowingUp84
      @JustGrowingUp84 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Indeed!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +19

      Thanks man, appreciate the kind words... more on the way, stay tuned and thanks for watching!

  • @aimeemorgado8715
    @aimeemorgado8715 Před 11 měsíci +15

    I came home hot and tired. Sat down and here is just what I needed to improve my mood, knowledge, and perspective! Thank you!!! Love your work.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +4

      Thanks, glad this will help to make the day better. Thanks so much for watching, really appreciate it!

  • @Shaymuhs
    @Shaymuhs Před 11 měsíci +48

    I already know this is gonna be a wonderful video, I hope you know how much this kind of free high quality education means to us! Thank you for all of your work.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +10

      Thanks, that's my goal, to hopefully give you all some good stuff to learn about and ponder over. Thanks so much for watching, this channel would be nothing without viewers like you!

    • @user-wc5ew4uq6b
      @user-wc5ew4uq6b Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@HistorywithCy
      Elam are the origin of the Arabs

  • @scoringbox2176
    @scoringbox2176 Před 11 měsíci +45

    Been binge watching your work for the past several months now. Please keep making awesome content like this!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +15

      Will do my best, thank you for watching all of these, means a lot that you're enjoying and learning from the content!

    • @fgkuv5232
      @fgkuv5232 Před 11 měsíci +5

      ​@@HistorywithCyAshurbanipal did nothing wrong ;)

  • @theresawilliams4296
    @theresawilliams4296 Před 10 měsíci +6

    My husband and I absolutely love your work cy. You make two genuine Aussies history lovers happy mate.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @cariboux2
    @cariboux2 Před 11 měsíci +22

    Thank you, Cy. You're performing a great service. The more we understand about societies that preceded ours, the better able we will be to make choices for our own. I'm doing some independent research on belief systems and social stability (I have no idea if anything will ever come from it 😅), and your channel is great at expanding my scope and pointing me in new directions. Thanks once again. Great production!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thank you, really appreciate the feedback and glad you enjoyed it...good luck on your research!

  • @BoomaRanga72
    @BoomaRanga72 Před 11 měsíci +11

    One of the only things I wanted more than the next episode of Egyptian Dynasties
    Keep up the great work mate, much love from Australia.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +3

      It's on the way! Finishing up the script right now and hope to have the video out sometime next month along with Elam Part II. Thanks for watching these, really appreciate it!

  • @bistokidsfan
    @bistokidsfan Před 11 měsíci +8

    History with Cy. My afternoon is complete! 👍🏻😉

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thanks, appreciate the kind words...and thanks for watching!

  • @oriffel
    @oriffel Před 11 měsíci +9

    omg thank you! everyone talks about Elam, but they always talkin shit, rather than ever talkin about them. I've been waitin for a video like this for a very long time.

  • @ryankasch5561
    @ryankasch5561 Před 11 měsíci +31

    The idea of proto Elamite being not Elamite makes a lot of sense to me, just thinking of the length "Elamite" existed when we have other situations in history where a group continues calling their neighbors the same thing despite the neighbors changing, like with the Greeks and the "Scythians", and it sometimes going in reverse by calling a past group what the current group is called

    • @andersschmich8600
      @andersschmich8600 Před 10 měsíci +4

      That is a great point! Anna Kommenus even called French Crusaders Celts.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 10 měsíci +3

      Interesting point, thanks for sharing and watching the video. More on the way, stay tuned!

    • @Mr713mexican
      @Mr713mexican Před 7 měsíci

      More info please on this… how is Elamite “long” and what other names of those eastern neighbors of Sumer could it be

    • @user-wc5ew4uq6b
      @user-wc5ew4uq6b Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@HistorywithCy
      Elam are the origin of the Arabs

    • @dougcortes6567
      @dougcortes6567 Před 3 měsíci

      @@user-wc5ew4uq6bElamites are more closely related to what became Iran.

  • @BiggestCorvid
    @BiggestCorvid Před 11 měsíci +5

    Hey hey it's gonna be a great sunday evening.

  • @anasevi9456
    @anasevi9456 Před 11 měsíci +6

    I've long heard of Elam and Susa, but this documentary truly pieced how it came together in a way I can see the entity forming.. At least a loose groundwork of what the the Medes and Achaemenids would spring off of. Thank you!

  • @pikmin4743
    @pikmin4743 Před 11 měsíci +4

    woo! I had a feeling yesterday that something Cy would be dropping soon. Thank you!

  • @WanaxTV
    @WanaxTV Před 11 měsíci +8

    I was waiting for this one! Congrats Cy, great video!

    • @spacebunny4335
      @spacebunny4335 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Love your channel, you and Cy are the best sources for Bronze Age history here on CZcams.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +3

      Thanks buddy, appreciate the kind words and hope you enjoy it!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@spacebunny4335 Thanks my friend, glad you're finding the videos useful! Thanks for watching!

  • @iexist3919
    @iexist3919 Před 11 měsíci +6

    I can’t wait to watch when I find the time. I hope to visit Iran and see the sights of these ancient civilizations once again. Thank you again Cy!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +3

      No worries my friend, take your time! Me too... there are so many ancient sites around the world I want to see. Thanks for always tuning in and watching these, really appreciate it!

  • @alimasoud4041
    @alimasoud4041 Před 11 měsíci +2

    thank you Cy. like all your videos, this is well researched and well executed. i always can’t wait to see new materials from you

  • @spacebunny4335
    @spacebunny4335 Před 11 měsíci +7

    I love the Elamites. Great video so far it’s going to take a while to watch and I’m all for it.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +2

      No worries, take your time and thanks for watching!

  • @EdrickBluebeard
    @EdrickBluebeard Před 11 měsíci +2

    I really appreciate these videos, Sir. Thank you for putting them together.
    I especially appreciate seeing examples of artwork and goods from the region/eras discussed.

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Ooh I've been interested in a good in depth video on Elam! Thank you so much for this. I'm looking forward to part two!
    God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)

  • @jeremyglauert40
    @jeremyglauert40 Před 11 měsíci +7

    My wife is an Elamite. She grew up in Shiraz and her family had served the Shah or King of Kings for 2,500 years. Her Grandmother who was an illegitimate child of the Crown Prince of the Qazars of Estifan. Their name was Janesarran which is a title and not really a name. It means. "I shall lay my life down for my King, know matter what the circumstances may be."

    • @jeremyglauert40
      @jeremyglauert40 Před 11 měsíci

      Also she is a rare, ravishing beauty. I think they are the most attractive women on earth and the original Ayrian race, but keep that too yourself because her head is big enough as it is and would have been one of the Persian women who road into battle in the front line. She is 5' nothing but says she will fight anyone, man, woman or animal and I've seen her bring the cops down a few notches. Her dad took her to a public execution when 5 years old and said,"Don't tell on people because in Iran, that's what happens too them and then you have to carry that weight for life." Staunchest women

    • @SimpleMinded221
      @SimpleMinded221 Před 10 měsíci

      @@jeremyglauert40 indoAryans are from central asia, a bit closer to the caucuses. Iranians are admixed with them, but definitely not pure.

    • @SimpleMinded221
      @SimpleMinded221 Před 10 měsíci

      And aryan isnt a race, it was a language family and word thst simply meant " nobleone" in indo aryan. Dont follow psuedohistory.

    • @rupertjon2353
      @rupertjon2353 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @jeremyglauert40
      Iranians today have genetics tying them to the the Causasus. Original Elamites were not from that area. We have reliefs of Elamite soldiers in Louvre Museum - they are not representative of today’s Iranians.
      Historical, Elam was razed to the ground by the Assyrians- all recorded history. Iran was later occupied by various people from the Middle-East, Causasus and Central Asia.
      Your wife is not an Elamite.
      And what does description about your wife or the Iranian people have to do with this historical video?

    • @jeremyglauert40
      @jeremyglauert40 Před 9 měsíci

      @@rupertjon2353 Yes they were spread all around there 2,500 years ago. The whole lot was Elam when Cyrus and Darius the first ruled. She is Farsi and she said her family were originally Elamites, then it changed to Persia and then Iran. All old maps show the old Persia being Elam plus parts of Sumer before Cyrus expanded the empire. She's not arab Persian after the Islamic conquest in the 7th century but her family would have been in Isfahan before Shiraz because the Qasars ruled during the entire Ottoman Empire I think and her grandmother was an eligible child of the crown Prince, but they had harems then so she would have been one of many, but she was looked after. She was Ayrian, blonde hair blue eyed Persian beauty, well her 58 year old granddaughter is beautiful so grandma would have also been

  • @hairyjohnson2597
    @hairyjohnson2597 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I have a 2 hour drive to work this morning, I woke up and saw a 1 hour video on elam. Going to be a great day! Thanks Cy!

  • @jimmyscherwitz5631
    @jimmyscherwitz5631 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Yes! Happy to get this notification.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Thanks, hope you enjoy it and thanks for watching!

  • @geraldmeehan8942
    @geraldmeehan8942 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thank you Cy for yet another top notch presentation. Keep up the good work!

  • @sanny8716
    @sanny8716 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Wow, with how few mentions this civilization gets, I'm pleasantly surprised by how much we actually do know about it
    Thank you for this in depth video, and the second part that I'm about to start watching
    Definitely glad I subscribed to this channel

  • @srenette82
    @srenette82 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Good work! I just need to point out that an article from 2022 by F. Desset et al. in Zeitschrift für Assyriologie demonstrates the initial decipherment of Linear Elamite (PDF of the article is available online). New work is now ongoing to gain additional insights into the ancient Elamite world and its neighbors from these texts.

    • @Amadis691
      @Amadis691 Před 7 měsíci

      How do other scholars see that decipherment? That seems so exciting!

  • @TypicalidiotGuy
    @TypicalidiotGuy Před 11 měsíci +2

    This is fantastic! Elam has fascinated me since I heard of it a few years back... Thank you!!

  • @Angayasse
    @Angayasse Před 11 měsíci +7

    This is so important, thank you for creating this video! All of the history-related groups, chats and other communities I am in, make the Elamites the villains. They should all check this video out:)

  • @johnemery6944
    @johnemery6944 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I’ve been wanting to learn more of Elam for awhile thank you cy I love the long form videos you did great with this one

  • @davidbrislin1126
    @davidbrislin1126 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Awesome. Well done, Cy. This is so cool and interesting.

  • @ancientsitesgirl
    @ancientsitesgirl Před 11 měsíci +6

    Another excellent Bronze Age episode to watch ❤️ Greetings Cy✌️

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Hi there! Yes, I can't get enough of the Bronze Age... hope you enjoy it and thanks for watching!

  • @richardbrook4545
    @richardbrook4545 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Great effort Cy, the Elamites are often overloocked and they are extremely interesting! thanks I have learnt alot

  • @michellejnickel
    @michellejnickel Před 11 měsíci +1

    Yasssssss new video! I'm sick so this really helped cheer me up a bit

  • @Zenmyster
    @Zenmyster Před 11 měsíci +14

    I had always heard, if at all, of Elam as an outlier. I've often wondered just how important it may have been as a bridge between Mesopotamia, Egypt, the Levant and the Indus cities.

    • @user-wc5ew4uq6b
      @user-wc5ew4uq6b Před 7 měsíci

      Elam are the origin of the Arabs

    • @porothashawarma2339
      @porothashawarma2339 Před 4 měsíci

      I strongly believe there was a lot of genetic admixture from these early Elamites to the Indus culture before the aryan tribes migrated into the sun-continent .
      These Elamites probably migrated southward and again mixed with aboriginal hunter gatherers of southern India and formed the Dravidian peoples there .

  • @raminsadeghi7358
    @raminsadeghi7358 Před 11 měsíci +4

    wow
    Finally
    Thanks for keeping your word

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Haha this is not the end... there will be more on Elam and Susa in the not-too-distant future, stay tuned and thanks for watching!

  • @JeffM---
    @JeffM--- Před 10 měsíci

    This is amazing work you have done here. Thank you very much, really enjoyed it.

  • @patrickotis3884
    @patrickotis3884 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Thank you again Cy!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Pleasure's all mine, thank YOU for watching!

  • @michaellewis7959
    @michaellewis7959 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Wow CY! This is an hour of exceptional, thank you!

  • @Ukr1018
    @Ukr1018 Před 11 měsíci +7

    This one was very worth the wait! An interesting thing about this is that the first verified sumerian king enmebaragesi, is known for attacking elam, and the end of sumerian is when cyrus the great, from Anshan, conquers them

    • @shutruk-nahunte3309
      @shutruk-nahunte3309 Před 10 měsíci +1

      No end of sumer was the fall of third dynasty they never had an empire since at Cyrus's era sumerians didn't exist

    • @pedigreeann
      @pedigreeann Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@shutruk-nahunte3309 Some new folks had moved into the area of highland Elam (capital at Anshan) in the 10-8th Century BCE; they were called the Persians by the Greeks and were Indo-Europeans, speaking an Indo-European language. In the 6th Century BCE, they began their expansion into the Persian Empire by taking the rest of the old Elamite territory. No doubt the native Elamites still had descendants in the Persian heartland (probably peasants and slaves; that is what happened to the defeated), but the language and culture of the land had been changed by the invaders.

  • @corvuscorax8459
    @corvuscorax8459 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thank you so much. You provide great insight into the ancient near East!

  • @RelivingHistory1
    @RelivingHistory1 Před 11 měsíci +1

    another excellent video, keep it up Cy!

  • @cthulu8mytoast
    @cthulu8mytoast Před 10 měsíci

    This is really interesting. I look forward to part two!

  • @Junier-Hussein
    @Junier-Hussein Před 10 měsíci +1

    I think I've said it previously but I really love your channel & appreciate the work you put into your videos. I'm just going to watch part 2 now 😊 It's like a journey going back in time 🙂 As a British born Pakistani I'm intrigued with the Indus valley civilization/Harappan civilization I will binge watch them videos next. I visited Mohenjo-daro a couple of years ago it was a great experience. I'm going back next year but this time to India to a place called Rakhi Garhi.

  • @DCC11347
    @DCC11347 Před 2 měsíci

    This is amazing stuff Cy. Keep up the good work. A lot of Americans have not heard of Elam because they don't teach it in achool. Thank tou for give the world more culture and history

  • @ObjectiveEthics
    @ObjectiveEthics Před 6 měsíci

    Cy your videos are head and shoulders above so many others in your genre. Your narration is very articulate and clear. The graphics you edit into your videos really add to the content. Very impressive brother. Happy holidays 🎄

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed this video...there's a part II for Elam also that you might be interested in. More on the way including one hopefully on just Susa... stay tuned and thanks for watching!

  • @SamtheIrishexan
    @SamtheIrishexan Před 9 měsíci

    Great video full with good information and insightful commentary. Plus like someone else said 1hr of Elam, yes pls!

  • @johnericjohn67mcvicker70
    @johnericjohn67mcvicker70 Před 10 měsíci +1

    My new favorite channel. Definitely gonna buy some stuff from your shop!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks so much for your kind words and support, I'm thrilled you're enjoying the content! More on the way, stay tuned and thanks for watching!

  • @LostSatelitBroadcast
    @LostSatelitBroadcast Před 10 měsíci

    Excellent explanation about the subject: CONGRATULATIONS!

  • @Strattios
    @Strattios Před 11 měsíci

    Love your work. I've learned more about these cultures from you than anywhere else.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks, so glad these are useful... and thanks for watching!

  • @831ACH
    @831ACH Před 11 měsíci

    I haven't seen this covered elsewhere on CZcams in nearly the depth. Respect.

  • @quintonbroster2994
    @quintonbroster2994 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you for your hard work and very informative films

  • @Old_8_gauge
    @Old_8_gauge Před 10 měsíci

    Great info. Very well researched.👏

  • @bettylaselli2048
    @bettylaselli2048 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Wow great work! Thanks for sharing!

  • @ronniemann9014
    @ronniemann9014 Před 10 měsíci

    This guy Cy is a pretty cool dude. Great job, man. Thnx for the content.

  • @vazak11
    @vazak11 Před 10 měsíci

    Amazing work!

  • @joeshmoe8345
    @joeshmoe8345 Před 11 měsíci

    Awesome. Thanks a bunch Cy Guy

  • @YadinZedek777
    @YadinZedek777 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video, can't wait to see a video on the bronze age collapse of all the surrounding people's and empires.

  • @bogdantoda6748
    @bogdantoda6748 Před 11 měsíci

    It's thru your videos I discovered the Hittites, Babylonians, Assyrians, Myceneans.and others. Thank you for this heftier
    video on Elam. Great content!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 10 měsíci

      I love comments like this because they motivate me to put out more. I wasn't sure if there was that much interest in Elam but I guess I was wrong...thanks for watching all of these, really appreciate it and glad to help with learning new stuff!

    • @bogdantoda6748
      @bogdantoda6748 Před 10 měsíci

      @@HistorywithCyIt's too bad their writing system (Elam) is not yet fully deciphered because they are a civilization of great merit and deserve their place in History!

  • @GreasusGoldtooth
    @GreasusGoldtooth Před 10 měsíci

    Yes, a video on the Elamites!

  • @Sempermortis84
    @Sempermortis84 Před 10 měsíci

    I love elamite content! Good job man.

  • @LuisAldamiz
    @LuisAldamiz Před 11 měsíci +5

    I'm not linguist nor have studied the issue in any depth but when in prehistory and anthropology informed circles you raise the issue of Elamo-Dravidian, nobody ever objects. It's not just a valid linguistic theory, it fits well with the prehistorical pattern of expansion of Neolithic eastwards from what was later known historically as Elam.
    As I see it, Neolithic West Asia was a mosaic of languages and some gave birth to widespread linguistic families, most of those of West Eurasia and India surely (maybe even some in Africa too, hard to say). Just as the Anatolian Neolithic spread westwards to most of Europe and carried with it the Vasconic languages (now only represented by Basque but 6000 years ago spoken in most of Europe), proto-Elamite Neolithic spread eastwards to South Asia (in the same timeline as European Neolithic first) and carried with it the Elamo-Dravidian family of languages, which eventually spread to South India, where it survives to this very day.
    If you're familiar with population genetics that would be the biggest part of the so called ANI (Ancient North Indian) component, while the ASI (Ancient South Indian) one is surely from the pre-Neolithic aboriginals instead.

    • @LeftistUprising
      @LeftistUprising Před 10 měsíci

      I first heard this on the linguistics newsgroups back in the late '90s, and now I believe it ardently. It's only a matter of time when the IVC script will be deciphered and proved to be related to Tulu or Malayalam.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Před 10 měsíci

      @@LeftistUprising - Unless new corpus is unearthed, IVC script will never be deciphered because there's too little to work on, AFAIK only short texts ("brands", jati or guild names?) in seals.
      However the case of the genetic identity between Brahuis and Balochs, as well as the general scatter of North Dravidian in North India is strong evidence for IVC language being Dravidian (Northern branch probably, Southern branches probably coalesced only when Dravidian Neolithic reached the area, which was delayed until Tropical crops were developed in Africa mostly).

  • @danti55
    @danti55 Před 10 měsíci

    This is wonderful thank you!

  • @calamitycalls
    @calamitycalls Před 10 měsíci

    im new to your channel and i gotta say that they are very good and helpful as i got interested to ancient mesopotamia thanks to your videos.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Welcome and so glad these videos have sparked your interest in this fascinating era of history. Thanks so much for watching, really appreciate it!

  • @robertclarke71
    @robertclarke71 Před 11 měsíci

    Love your work mate.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci

      Thanks, appreciate it and thanks for watching!

  • @masoudgolshani6364
    @masoudgolshani6364 Před 10 měsíci

    So impressed by your pronunciations

  • @AnnapoornaPosaniKalakruti
    @AnnapoornaPosaniKalakruti Před 9 měsíci

    Very good work

  • @horusgrimwulff8659
    @horusgrimwulff8659 Před 11 měsíci +1

    awesome Ive been hoping youd do something on Elam ... my rl last name is Elam again thank you very much this

  • @berserk046
    @berserk046 Před 11 měsíci

    great work, thank you

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 Před 11 měsíci

    Perfect timing, and great even if it wasn't perfect timing!

  • @madderhat5852
    @madderhat5852 Před 10 měsíci

    Brilliant and engaging.

  • @terryhughes7349
    @terryhughes7349 Před 9 měsíci

    Great documentary!!!!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! There is a Part II to it also if you're interested. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it!

  • @Sarke2
    @Sarke2 Před 14 dny

    Fascinating civilization we sadly dont know much about, and your analysis is in depth, i enjoyed every second of it, will watch part II and part III for sure. In my opinion early Elamites were closest to Sumerians, they influenced each other, both languages were language isolated, definetely for sure they were different from semitic Akkadians and later Amorites. Hope we will learn even more in the future about this great civilization. And yes about the kingdom of Murhashi in the east i think they were related to Jiroft culture?

  • @JonnoPlays
    @JonnoPlays Před 11 měsíci +2

    I like the video game footage you used. It sure what game it is but I'm guessing Civilization? A lot of these games are very accurate in their portrayal of historical details and I think the footage is good quality. Nice work on that. I used to play this game called Pharaoh that was recently redone and released on stream. Might be able to find some good footage from that game too. If you thought it was relevant and needed some specific footage I would be willing to produce it and deliver it to you. I'm doubting you'll actually want or need to use any but just wanted to mention that I enjoyed that use of footage mostly.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yeah that's Total War with the Age of Bronze mod. I've heard of Pharaoh and think I've even seen it streamed some time back. I'll check it out again. There's a new Total War game called Pharaoh coming out too this October. Thanks again for watching, really appreciate it!

  • @AngelRoseAngel1980
    @AngelRoseAngel1980 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Thank you 😊

  • @BenSHammonds
    @BenSHammonds Před 11 měsíci +2

    very interesting episode

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Thank you, and thanks for watching!

    • @BenSHammonds
      @BenSHammonds Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@HistorywithCy it is sure my pleasure, hello from east Texas :)

  • @TheRedneckPreppy
    @TheRedneckPreppy Před 11 měsíci

    A very fine episode Cy. As always, you have my appreciation for all of your hard work on these videos.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thanks my friend, as always, you have my appreciate for your support and watching these... truly appreciate it!

  • @bwhotwing411
    @bwhotwing411 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I’d love to see more about Iranian and Bactrian or Oxian history. It’d fill in some gaps in world history for me. It’s interesting to see if any of these cultures had any influence or origins on ancient Harrapan civilization or vice versa

    • @shutruk-nahunte3309
      @shutruk-nahunte3309 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Oxians were not irainian they were elamite nomadic tribe

    • @bwhotwing411
      @bwhotwing411 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@shutruk-nahunte3309 I never said they were. I was referring to civilizations in the Oxus mountain region. They must’ve been important because they were near all of the deposits of Lapis Lazuli that was traded all the way to Egypt. And must’ve traded with the Indus Valley civilization too.

    • @shutruk-nahunte3309
      @shutruk-nahunte3309 Před 10 měsíci

      @@bwhotwing411 ok

  • @thotherospdx
    @thotherospdx Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @johnssmith4005
    @johnssmith4005 Před 11 měsíci

    I would really love a video on the Black sea civilizations and their relation with Asia Minor and Greece

  • @LeftyScaevola
    @LeftyScaevola Před 11 měsíci +1

    Good Video. Big subject, with relatively little original source material available compared to Mesopotamia of the same periods.
    Questions: The Jiroft culture? Part of Elam,Rival, Subject? Part of Marahashi? Something else?
    Elam trade with the Oxus civilization?
    Relations between Elam and the Gutians: Allies, rivals, enemies?

  • @LeftyScaevola
    @LeftyScaevola Před 10 měsíci +2

    Looking forward to the part about the Neo Elamite period, and its end. We all know what happened to the western end of Elam and Susa when their disrespected my Bro Evil Overlord, Ashurbanipal, but how the Eastern end around the other capital Anshan, diminished and evaporated quietly, and then just became Persian is a mystery to me.

  • @ShivSidharthGowda
    @ShivSidharthGowda Před 9 měsíci +3

    Hi..... I'm from karna'taka ....Kannada" India
    The information in this video ..has lot of resembles ... Words to our current existing language n culture too ..
    Elam .... ile ...= means land /earth
    Hattians --- hatti - = home
    Etc...
    Thank u for this thought provoking n well researched info...

  • @mattjones741
    @mattjones741 Před 11 měsíci +4

    love to learn about Elam and the world around and outside Mesopotamia

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Awesome, I hope that you enjoy this video and part II coming up! Thanks for watching!

  • @dougcortes6567
    @dougcortes6567 Před 3 měsíci

    Let’s go!

  • @fatemea6552
    @fatemea6552 Před 9 měsíci

    We need more content about elamids !

  • @planetbirthday6859
    @planetbirthday6859 Před 11 měsíci

    Never heard of Elamite till now thanks

  • @noahlogue
    @noahlogue Před 11 měsíci

    History with Cy video!!

  • @Iambrendanjames
    @Iambrendanjames Před 11 měsíci +2

    The Elamite's seem to show how broad, and pivotal to civilization the act of trading was as well as agriculture. Trading between people is probably a much older act than planting food, but agriculture might be much less conducive to fostering civilization if we didn't trade goods between different groups..

  • @firstnamelastname-kr8dv
    @firstnamelastname-kr8dv Před 7 měsíci

    That tablet script around 12:00 looks like stuff we find over in South America

  • @young_dieg0301
    @young_dieg0301 Před 11 měsíci +1

    What is the name of the song or songs used?

  • @chopsddy3
    @chopsddy3 Před 11 měsíci

    Super👍!

  • @sladewilson4543
    @sladewilson4543 Před 11 měsíci +2

    regarding linear elamite, a proposed deciphering has been proposed in 2022 by Desset et al.

  • @jeremycline9542
    @jeremycline9542 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Do you think Elam could have been Dravidian? I can imagine how these peoples could have moved along the coast of the Indian Ocean and the Persian Gulf.

  • @Zaphodox
    @Zaphodox Před 20 dny

    Hi, one question - why is there so much date uncertainty on the older archaeological find? Like on your Ubaid period some of the artifact dates are +\- 900 years!!

  • @terryhunt2659
    @terryhunt2659 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Regarding the undecyphered Proto-Elamite script, which though used contemporaneously and analagously to the Sumerian Proto-Cuneiform script is seemingly unrelated to it - as a layman I have long thought that Proto-Elamite has a resemblance to the symbols of the similarly undeciphered Indus/Harrapan script (if script it was).
    Though we have no positive evidence that the languages these (presumably) represented were the same or related, it seems to me possible that the scripts may be. Perhaps one inspired the other, or there was mutual influence. Though Elam's and the Indus Valley's territories were (as far as I can tell) never contiguous, they were separated only by one or two others, evidently traded through those intermediaries if not directly, and may have had friendly diplomatic and military relations.
    It does not seem to me unlikely that traders of the two cultures, to facilitate their interactions, might have devised a mutually intelligible system of symbols, which perhaps later became further elaborated in their home cultures for other purposes and consequently diverged.

  • @bradm.3775
    @bradm.3775 Před 21 dnem

    I Love this information about Sumeria and Mesopotamia

  • @Borzasnyul
    @Borzasnyul Před 11 měsíci

    Impressive.

  • @iranianrepublicanpartyanti3587

    Thank you very much for addressing empire EELAMITE, which inspired the Achaemenids of Iran and is part of the Bakhtiary EEL's heritage, please do an example on the structures of that period.🌹☀️🦁

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  Před 6 měsíci

      You're welcome baradar! I'll have more on Elam and the Achaemenids in 2024 so stay tuned and thanks for watching!

    • @iranianrepublicanpartyanti3587
      @iranianrepublicanpartyanti3587 Před 6 měsíci

      @@HistorywithCy Thank you very much; Of course, I follow your weekly history TV program, it is an honor baradar♥️👋🏻

  • @bethbartlett5692
    @bethbartlett5692 Před 10 měsíci

    Cy,
    What an excellent presentation, the "Telling of the story" is the most delicious experience of learning History. I suspect this is one of the methods for passing 9b (ral History, and then for those 5asked as "the Record Keepers of History", had a much more responsible method of testing ti check their success in accuracy, as reported by the Native Americans of NW America and Canada. (In a documentary filmed prior to the release of Haplo Groups as identified by DNA)
    These people were accurate in their sharing of History relative to the Island of Hawaii, and Hawaiian Peoples being of their genetic relatives. I can count at least 3 of the reports in this referenced documentary that 0roved ti be accurate after pater DNA was performed.)
    I have greater c9nfidence in Oral History than written, where influence is applied by the Dictators of the time and time since it was originally written, be theymse Dictators/Presidents/Monarchs be Overt or Covert in their Authoritarian influence.