Irving Finkel | The Ark Before Noah: A Great Adventure

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  • čas přidán 19. 07. 2016
  • Irving Finkel, Assistant Keeper I with responsibility for cuneiform in the Department of the Middle East, British Museum.
    This talk, illustrated by a PowerPoint, will describe what befell the speaker after one quite remarkable cuneiform tablet was brought for examination to the British Museum in London. The inscription on this four-thousand-year-old tablet led to a series of altogether unexpected discoveries, demanding a whole new look at Noah and his Ark, and culminating in a book and a documentary film.
    Institute for the Study of Ancient Cultures lectures are free and available to the public thanks to the generous support of our members. To become a member, please visit: bit.ly/2AWGgF7

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  • @irvingfinkel9816
    @irvingfinkel9816 Před 4 lety +2902

    Whether you have enjoyed this or not you might find my book The Ark Before Noah interesting...
    Irving Finkel

    • @SaraKochanny
      @SaraKochanny Před 4 lety +70

      This is one of the most interesting lectures I've ever heard! It's incredible the puzzles that can be solved from such limited information. I also saw a video of how you deciphered the rules to the Royal Game of Ur. Thank you for uncovering our history!

    • @emamadra3472
      @emamadra3472 Před 4 lety +13

      thank you

    • @charlesrobbins2208
      @charlesrobbins2208 Před 4 lety +24

      I just happen to have my debit card handy and am willing to use it. I expect your humor to be a little more on the dry side for the book? No matter, you are obviously intelligent and your input on ancient history will be, no doubt, interesting. You sold me on the idea.

    • @c.v.8199
      @c.v.8199 Před 4 lety +21

      Smashing! Absolutely smashing! Well good chap I dare say that was undoubtedly the witty-est and most enjoyable speech! Bravo ! Very informative and great bursts of humor throughout. Needless to say, but I must, that was a jolly good show you! I will check out your book in support of what seems to be your life's work and passion. Thank you for this pleasurable experience. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
      Vos, Christian

    • @TheChadPad
      @TheChadPad Před 4 lety +21

      I absolutely loved it. I watched it twice, once many months ago, and now here I am again, on a quest to gain my CZcams PhD in ancient history. Thank you for helping me on my quest

  • @itsmybike1078
    @itsmybike1078 Před rokem +355

    Going by the comments people dont even know who Dr Finkle is? Dr Finkle is the leading professor of Assyriology and can read Assyrian, Babylonian and Sumerian as well as speak all three languages and is also Currently the Head curator at the British museum. Dr Finkle is also famous for finding the worlds oldest Game called the Royal game of UR as well as finding the cuneiform Rules. He also translates cuneiform Ghost story's and dairies and all can be watched on CZcams!

    • @DA-gq6kt
      @DA-gq6kt Před 3 měsíci +8

      Thank you

    • @johnsmith5010
      @johnsmith5010 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@PrometheusZandskihave you got any lectures I can watch ? 😂

    • @_.Leo_.
      @_.Leo_. Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​​@@PrometheusZandskiI, too, can speak autism. I'm glad to have found a similar fellow here

    • @Mihoshika
      @Mihoshika Před 2 měsíci +2

      I'm only familiar with the name from the Tom Scott videos on Cuneiform and Ur.

    • @vinoismeify
      @vinoismeify Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@PrometheusZandskiare you high dude?

  • @001FJ
    @001FJ Před 9 měsíci +719

    As an Iraqi, I am glad to see my country being mentioned for once for its historical value.

    • @Jacobsoetsrto3211
      @Jacobsoetsrto3211 Před 7 měsíci

      U islam idiot. Destroying this artefak

    • @Kalicdire
      @Kalicdire Před 7 měsíci +14

      Just wait until the United nations gets moved out of New York to a small ancient town about 50miles south of Baghdad.

    • @mathsfornineyearolds
      @mathsfornineyearolds Před 7 měsíci +10

      The ratios are also present in the consruction of a pllace called stone henge, and in the construction of churches and mosque.. In Christian mythology they come from the tree of knowledge and there is a sequence of cosines that go with it the mythology described as a serpent. The academic canon ask that people are not told this. Barthes wrote something about the mythology in the 1950's and added "I can see the thunder clouds on the horizon as I writre.. Cant control the internet.

    • @purrpurr6618
      @purrpurr6618 Před 7 měsíci +40

      @001FJ your country is the cradle of civilisation. be proud of your history and hope that you will be able to be proud of your country one day again

    • @domwick720
      @domwick720 Před 7 měsíci +4

      There is a vortex in Iraq, thus the recent invasion.

  • @dorotak2908
    @dorotak2908 Před 9 měsíci +754

    Thank God for CZcams. Can you imagine this lecture would only be available to a handful of people in that room! That would be a real shame. It's absolutely delightful, in content and delivery! ❤❤❤❤

    • @dorotak2908
      @dorotak2908 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @beamazed1162 yes, actually I know all that. I even have a book on Chinese inventions. Spare your breath

    • @MorpheusOne
      @MorpheusOne Před 8 měsíci +2

      The audio quality is horrid. _`God`_ forbid they remaster the audio, out of the Neolithic age of analog technology & into the digital age, to at least lessen the echo, while also reducing the background noise, to something reasonable. The echo and the background noise, coupled with _`Her Majesty's`_ British accent, make this video completely unworthy of wasting my time trying to watch, and listen, to it.
      Thumb's down!

    • @beamazed1162
      @beamazed1162 Před 7 měsíci

      @@MorpheusOne Everything must be carbon-14 tested and corroborated by multiple evidences. China’s history has been corroborated by multiple evidences

    • @neclark08
      @neclark08 Před 7 měsíci +18

      ​@@MorpheusOne-- ...listening to a Good British Storyteller is simply a matter of de-tuning your Modern Ear to let the language flow around- and over you -- as if you are watching Shakespeare performed in its original accent...
      You've expended at least TWICE as much effort & energy in compiling your pedantic Complaints about this presentation than it would have taken you to just run the video 2 times -- the first to watch the images as you let the audio play in the 'background', and the second to enjoy HEARING the tale which Professor/Doctor Finkle is telling...

    • @MorpheusOne
      @MorpheusOne Před 7 měsíci +2

      @neclark: Have you considered the more likely possibility that you have really, REALLY, really low standards¿?

  • @bswantner2
    @bswantner2 Před rokem +1549

    Irving Finkel is totally a Wizard from Unseen University in Discworld. Right down to the muttered jokes. Wonderful and educational. Much thanks.

    • @hereigoagain5050
      @hereigoagain5050 Před rokem +87

      Perhaps Discworld is actually a coracle on four elephants on a sea turtle.

    • @helenobrien3941
      @helenobrien3941 Před rokem +21

      absolutely! I hadnt thought of that! I adore Irving Finkel!

    • @occamraiser
      @occamraiser Před rokem +39

      What an apt comparison. Somewhat scatter-brained whilst muttering arcane knowledge to himself and explaining in disjointed phrases. The world needs experts like these :)

    • @JesseP.Watson
      @JesseP.Watson Před rokem +26

      100%, and while he's at it he really does personify a wonderful character of Englishness which does, just a smidgen, leave one thinking: "Perhaps, in the bemusingly witty intelligence of our finest eccentrics we did have a valid claim for world domination after all."
      I know, a truly terrible thing to say, but there it is 😉
      [PS. I think Erwin Saunders, professor of pixie studies who has a wonderful youtube channel here must have largely been inspired by Irvin Finkel - the names have a rather similar ring to them too.]

    • @TimberWolfmanV6
      @TimberWolfmanV6 Před rokem

      He’s off his Dried frog pills. (these are pills made chiefly from frogs, specifically the extremely poisonous ones that live in the vivarium at Unseen University)

  • @edwardcrow6385
    @edwardcrow6385 Před 2 lety +210

    This is the kind of man who if given a billion dollars, wouldn’t retire. “I finally have enough money to research everything I want to” he’d spend every last penny on discovery and spreading that knowledge

  • @001FJ
    @001FJ Před 6 měsíci +65

    As an Iraqi, I appreciate it when historians and archaeologists mention Iraq by name, because in the west the name “Iraq” is only mentioned in relationship to wars, terrorism, dictatorship, and human rights violations.
    If mentioned in documentaries for its historical value then it is called Sumer, Akkad, Babylon, Assyria, Mesopotamia, or the Cradle of Civilization, which is a huge disservice to Iraq and Iraqis, since many people think these places are mythical or disputed like Atlantis.
    Historians don't do that with Egypt (e.g. Kemet), China (e.g. Zhongguo) or Greece (e.g. Hellas), they call them by their modern names.
    Many events in Genesis happened in Iraq (e.g. Garden of Eden and the Tower of Babel), until Abraham “set out from Ur of the Chaldeans to go to Canaan” (Genesis 11:31). And when Abraham wanted his son Isaac to get married, he sent his servant to his relatives in Iraq to find a wife for Isaac. Later Biblical events also happened in Iraq (e.g. Book of Daniel). The Babylonian Talmud was written by Iraqi Jews in Iraq. And even the Lord Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic, the language of the ancient Iraqis and modern-day Chaldeans and Assyrians.

    • @dikushnukenjeh9072
      @dikushnukenjeh9072 Před 2 měsíci +2

      The TaImud is one of the main sources of the unprecedented EVlL we see and experience first hand in current times.

    • @kukuruku4697
      @kukuruku4697 Před měsícem +2

      Sorry, but according to my knowledge, theccurrent Arab Iraq was carved out of Arabia by the British and does not have much in common with ancient Mesopotamia, Babylon etc., not the same languages, same religion, culture etc, except it is the same region. Not, to minimise the ancient Arab Islamic historical impact, but if the Mongol empire had persisted until today, they would be claiming ownership on Babylon, Mesopotamia, etc cultures.

    • @albionjq
      @albionjq Před měsícem +1

      @@kukuruku4697 Islam is irrelevant it didn't appear till 640 AD

    • @palmtreeshenanigans
      @palmtreeshenanigans Před měsícem +1

      Sadly with what is happening around the world that is the most talk about when mentioning Iraq, but when you look at photos or video of the cities and countryside it looks like a modern country with amazing architecture but modern cities with modern roads and buildings everywhere, it is sad how politics can depict places completely different to what they really are. When the people take back their country one day i would hope that visitors spread the word of its beauty and how it is nowhere near as described by its enemies.

    • @kukuruku4697
      @kukuruku4697 Před měsícem +1

      @albionjq who said otherwise, and what is the connection to what I said?

  • @rachelsanger8629
    @rachelsanger8629 Před 8 měsíci +61

    What a phenomenal and glorious example of British humour and scholarship. Thank you.

    • @alanjameson8664
      @alanjameson8664 Před 7 měsíci +4

      I should have greatly enjoyed being one of the Americans he allegedly chased after to explain that the bit about the heads of departments arriving at the museum on elephants was not true. The comedic possibilities of understanding that it was a joke in the first place and pretending to believe it despite all claims to the contrary are pure gold.

  • @ryuhjnyguh6404
    @ryuhjnyguh6404 Před 3 lety +477

    I think the most astounding skill Irving happens to possess as an unparallelled historian and communicator is one I daresay most of his colleagues don't happen to share - supreme comedic sense and timing.

    • @erickramirez8428
      @erickramirez8428 Před 3 lety +5

      Copy🐱

    • @elainegroom1989
      @elainegroom1989 Před 2 lety +7

      He is a jewel. Enjoyed his talk so much. Wow

    • @valldove6615
      @valldove6615 Před 2 lety

      Hey beautiful queen lady

    • @amberh4205
      @amberh4205 Před 2 lety +4

      Absolutely!! Most lectures I listen to at night, they're so dry! But he's always enjoyable!!

  • @certifiedalienist492
    @certifiedalienist492 Před 2 lety +493

    Let me say this. I have studied and researched things for well over a quarter of a century. This guy is phenomenal. He’s entertaining and one of the most effective lecturers I’ve yet come across.

    • @earlysda
      @earlysda Před rokem +4

      The speaker in the video hasn't a clue what he is talking about.

    • @Aurora-oe2qp
      @Aurora-oe2qp Před rokem +29

      @@earlysda Does he not? How's that? Did he not set the rules for the Royal Game of Ur straight? Did he not literally publish the paper on this matter?

    • @earlysda
      @earlysda Před rokem +1

      @@Aurora-oe2qp Aurora, your satire is quite funny. Thank you.

    • @aryehlevine8677
      @aryehlevine8677 Před rokem +43

      @@earlysda He's literally the world's foremost expert on Cuneiform. He's not saying he believes the story, or anything like that, Dr Finkel is an atheist. He does know more than most if not all people about Cuneiform, so I'd drop the pride a bit and realize that you're listening to someone who's more of an expert than you are.

    • @earlysda
      @earlysda Před rokem +10

      @@aryehlevine8677 Aryeh, God calls Atheists "fools".

  • @terris.7428
    @terris.7428 Před rokem +352

    I have no idea how I found this lecture, but without a doubt, this is the best lecture I've ever heard in my life!!! I was sitting on the edge of my seat the entire time, though there was a time or two when I thought I just might fall out of my seat because I was laughing so hard--- laughing because of Irving Finkel's sense of humor and his comedic delivery. And I'm STILL chuckling over those goats! LOL

    • @beamazed1162
      @beamazed1162 Před 7 měsíci

      Everything must be carbon-14 tested and corroborated by multiple evidences. China’s history has been corroborated by multiple evidences

    • @mikideebank3592
      @mikideebank3592 Před 7 měsíci +7

      “There’s usually a giraffe looking out of the window “!😀

    • @jackieking1522
      @jackieking1522 Před 6 měsíci

      Yes.. awesome. Really brilliant. I have though encountered a couple of other equally brilliant lectures.... one by Jim Mathews proving that James Clerk Maxwell is the greatest scientist ever, and the other, so long ago I forget the lecturers name but will never forget the amazing history of the Azania people of the four corners region.

    • @lostonweb1
      @lostonweb1 Před 5 měsíci

      ​​@@jackieking1522 i looked for about 10 mins trying to find those lectures you were talking about, the azania people would apparently have to be from somewhere in east africa and a four corners region the only one im aware of is in the southwestern united states and i also googled the other lecture about james clerk maxwell, but couldnt find either one. Try douglas adams' lecture " parrots the universe and everything" right here on you tube.

    • @billybarnes1763
      @billybarnes1763 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Challenge it for yourself without his "dates" as they are flawed. See what you come up with. Don't be deceived.

  • @gregbellinger5765
    @gregbellinger5765 Před rokem +84

    Excellent tone, volume, pace, body gestures, confidence, humility , humor, word choice, and directions for looking at the visuals. The clear historical orientation, design principles, lecture delivery, and encouragement to keep learning after the lecture. Thanks very much, Dr. Finkel. GB

  • @gaborzoltai6965
    @gaborzoltai6965 Před 3 lety +715

    'In the editing process, they miss out certain words. Like NOT.'
    Comedy gold. I am turning into a total Irving Finkel fanboy.

    • @giovannisantostasi9615
      @giovannisantostasi9615 Před rokem +5

      Me too.

    • @Sanad974
      @Sanad974 Před rokem

      Lol it happens. I would also like to share with you all a very important video imo
      czcams.com/video/BxnCvRiTndE/video.html

    • @michaeldougherty6036
      @michaeldougherty6036 Před 11 měsíci +6

      His quick American accent was quite on point.

    • @4thorder
      @4thorder Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@michaeldougherty6036 as an American I can confirm this lol

    • @beamazed1162
      @beamazed1162 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Does he have any writings on cuneiform dictionary grammar? Cuneiform characters can only be understood by himself, so can people who read his books not understand it? This shows that he is a fake, a fake person!

  • @LostAnFound
    @LostAnFound Před 4 lety +172

    That is the coolest thing I’ve ever heard: I picked up the cuneiform tablet and proceeded to read it.

  • @pstewart5443
    @pstewart5443 Před rokem +218

    I love this man's humor. This is one part comedy & three parts history. I'd love to take one of his courses. I bet he makes it so fun.

    • @TheJamesRedwood
      @TheJamesRedwood Před rokem +2

      He's not a teacher. So you can't take a course of his.

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx Před 11 měsíci +3

      @Al Kotov I'm sure that the OP meant something more appropriate to the subject matter.
      This stuff is basically a Sumerian/Akkadian/Old Babylonian precursor to a Hebrew Torah narrative element.
      Not history per se but almost certainly a narrative influenced by history - likely the legacy of several Euphrates and/or Tigris flood events blended into one story with mythological justifications and explanations.

    • @edwardhanson3664
      @edwardhanson3664 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @generalframework You can lead a fool to knowledge, but you can't make him think.

    • @snafu2350
      @snafu2350 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I had a similar experience with my A-lv maths tutor: a fascinating guy with many stories & anecdotes to tell, often humorous. Sadly I spent so much time listening to his stories that I failed abysmally in the exams :((

    • @semaj_5022
      @semaj_5022 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @generalframework The name of the story is "Atra-Hasis" or the "Epic of Atrahasis," though can be found in slightly differing form (a few name and date changes and prose alterations) within the "Epic of Gilgamesh."
      The oldest copies of parts of the Atra-Hasis flood story we have date to the mid/late 1600's BCE, but many other copies exist from then through the 1st millennium BCE. The Gilgamesh version's oldest form we have dates to the 7th century BCE, but the Epic of Gilgamesh itself is present in part from a tablet dated to the 18th century BCE.
      There are countless papers published on both in myriad journals and would be nearly effortless to find with a quick Google.

  • @luarchitect-iu2hq
    @luarchitect-iu2hq Před 6 měsíci +19

    Finkel is the gold standard for combining superlative scholarship and sheer entertainment.

  • @jimpalmer2981
    @jimpalmer2981 Před 2 lety +200

    Irving Finkel is an international treasure. His particular gift to us is to make the ancients just as human as we are and thus just as relatable as our next-door neighbors. It has the dual effect of humbling the ancients and elevating us. He should live until 120 and never stop writing, teaching, researching and discovering.

    • @egemensentin
      @egemensentin Před 10 měsíci +7

      As a descendant of Noah, he should live until 950!

    • @beamazed1162
      @beamazed1162 Před 8 měsíci

      Does he have any writings on cuneiform dictionary grammar? Cuneiform characters can only be understood by himself, so can people who read his books not understand it? This shows that he is a fake, a fake person!

    • @suzbone
      @suzbone Před 8 měsíci +8

      ​@@beamazed1162what? Who told you he's the only person who can read cuneiform?

    • @beamazed1162
      @beamazed1162 Před 8 měsíci

      @@suzbone drop me a link to a grammar book that translates cuneiform grammar into English, and I will also translate the content on the mud board.

    • @kevwhufc8640
      @kevwhufc8640 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@beamazed1162 your online on utube asking questions about things you can find the answers for if you Google your questions.
      A quick answer, yes , men have been studying and translating cuneiform for around 150 years..
      Go look at some examples of cuneiform translated into English .

  • @bluecollarmom7341
    @bluecollarmom7341 Před 3 lety +320

    I declare Irving Finkel an International Treasure...someone get this man a gold chain immediately!

    • @keepinganopenmind8216
      @keepinganopenmind8216 Před 2 lety +3

      In keeping to the spirit of Mr. Finkel.... I say we wait to give it to him.. at a later date ! Just tell him we have one for him.,. and not tell him when he gets it ~!

    • @KristiContemplates
      @KristiContemplates Před 2 lety +2

      Be on the lookout for Nicholas Cage

    • @motherofcatsnz
      @motherofcatsnz Před rokem +2

      No, get him an elephant to come to work on!

  • @nellfithen5683
    @nellfithen5683 Před měsícem +3

    His humour is genius because he is funny enough that you are always listening for another good punchline, and thus you are ALWAYS LISTENING

  • @iancook7782
    @iancook7782 Před 7 měsíci +27

    This guy is s legend, if school teachers were like him more kids would enjoy learning. He's like a stand-up lecturer he's got a way of educating you while making you laugh not realising how much of lesson you've just been privileged to be part of. Need to find more of his lectures/work known of his name through other great minds like his just never clicked on a video until now idk I've been missing out 😂

    • @dawnjackson6741
      @dawnjackson6741 Před měsícem +1

      Wishful thinking….I can tell you have never taught in urban classrooms.😢

  • @inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493

    Irving Finkle is a awesome. As a kid in my rough neighborhood highschool, I had a teacher who reminds me of him, I will never forget his lessons.

    • @veronicaroach3667
      @veronicaroach3667 Před 11 měsíci +5

      I went to an all girls school, a famous one in London, such a privilege, but the teachers were so wonderful I still remember them & their fantastic methods that made you sit up & take it all in - I'm 83 now, and wish every kid could have what they gave me ! I learned to love learning, and still do !

    • @DiddleyBoh
      @DiddleyBoh Před 10 měsíci +2

      You've got the remind part backwards.

    • @kevwhufc8640
      @kevwhufc8640 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@veronicaroach3667 because of my dads job ( professional footballer) we moved around England & I had a few different schools ( during the 60s and 70s)
      Teachers who bring the subject alive who capture the imagination are worth their weight in Gold.
      And are quite rare ..

    • @bonniebonnie9388
      @bonniebonnie9388 Před 4 měsíci

      That's amazing to have gleaned so much from your teachers and created a life of learning absolutely beautiful t​@@veronicaroach3667

  • @Astronomikat
    @Astronomikat Před 5 lety +339

    Irving Finkel appears to be a national treasure. Y'all should give him a BBC series or some such.

    • @slappy8941
      @slappy8941 Před 5 lety +55

      BBC would only be interested if he put on a dress, converted to Islam, and changed his name to Venus Rainbow, and then complained about sexism, transphobia, and islamophobia.

    • @simplycy919
      @simplycy919 Před 4 lety

      He was talking about pornhub

    • @jeremiahwilliams6940
      @jeremiahwilliams6940 Před 4 lety +6

      Agree

    • @TheMegadethMonk
      @TheMegadethMonk Před 4 lety +14

      @@slappy8941 and racism and white males...don't forget about racism and WHITE MALES!!!!

    • @themadplotter
      @themadplotter Před 4 lety +8

      I liked the guy who went full Fox News to make you feel at home.

  • @fredsimmons2793
    @fredsimmons2793 Před 8 měsíci +9

    What a precious soul is Irving Finkel.What substance he gives.

  • @supergeek1418
    @supergeek1418 Před 6 měsíci +10

    That was absolutely the *shortest* 58 minute video that I have ever watched.
    *THANK YOU VERY MUCH* !!!

  • @ajbryce
    @ajbryce Před 2 lety +70

    I was actually sad when it ended, I could listen to this gentleman all day long!

  • @kwaitefuni9152
    @kwaitefuni9152 Před 3 lety +156

    That was well worth my hour. This was such an entertaining story. Irving Finkle is the Great Wizard of Britain and you can't tell me otherwise. I first saw his video with Tom Scott playing the Royal Game of Ur. Ever since, I've been fascinated with this man.

    • @AlbinovSK
      @AlbinovSK Před rokem +6

      I didn't even realise it's been an hour.

  • @andytrimble1392
    @andytrimble1392 Před rokem +29

    I've heard it said that a keen wit is a sign of genius. This man is the embodiment of that.
    Thank you, Mr Finkel, and thank you to those who recorded and posted this video.
    My heart is gleeful for having seen this.

  • @TheMuseumGuyIsrael
    @TheMuseumGuyIsrael Před 6 měsíci +10

    Irvin Finkel is always a pleasure to listen to. His vast knowledge is only second to his superb delivery

  • @davexb6595
    @davexb6595 Před 4 lety +74

    I'm in my fifties but when I grow up I'd like to be able to give talks like Dr. Finkel.

    • @calvinmyers5085
      @calvinmyers5085 Před 4 lety

      Lol👍

    • @markdoldon8852
      @markdoldon8852 Před 4 lety +1

      Hows the beard coming along?

    • @julianwaugh968
      @julianwaugh968 Před 3 lety +1

      I do hope you do.
      Keep an open mind, by all means study religions but don't believe them.
      Learn at least one other language and read,read read,it focuses the mind that TV won't do.
      I wish you great success, if you have this guy as your north star you are already on the right track.

    • @weme11
      @weme11 Před 3 lety

      @@julianwaugh968 Study religion but dont believe them? I can see close mindedness here.

    • @marilyntape508
      @marilyntape508 Před 3 lety

      It’s never too late 😊👍🇦🇺

  • @Quasihamster
    @Quasihamster Před 4 lety +98

    I just imagine how 3000 years from now, archaeologists dig up the rubble of the British Museum, find these tablets with the map of Babylon, and then go to figure out which part of the nearby ancient riverbed... Thames or what it was once called... it could possibly refer to.

  • @wizzardofpaws2420
    @wizzardofpaws2420 Před 10 měsíci +35

    This man has to be the best storyteller that ever lived. He's a real joy to listen to.

  • @rhondasisco-cleveland2665

    He’s so wonderful to listen to. What a great storyteller.

  • @MatanuskaHIGH
    @MatanuskaHIGH Před 4 lety +746

    This guy could talk about paint drying and I’d listen. He’s hilarious and makes learning a lot more fun.

    • @markdoldon8852
      @markdoldon8852 Před 4 lety +6

      Funny reactions. Hes interesting to listen to, obviously very knowledgable, and keeps his audience engaged with his humor. I'd hardly call him hilarious, though.

    • @ordanburdan9397
      @ordanburdan9397 Před 4 lety +3

      it is cute that you need learning to be fun in order for yo to learn. reminds me of toddlers.

    • @patthecat6491
      @patthecat6491 Před 4 lety +5

      "Talk about paint drying and I'd listen"..... No kidding, it'd be great.

    • @amybee40
      @amybee40 Před 4 lety +21

      @ordanburdan
      Personally, I can learn from almost anyone, but humor is still appreciated. It's weird that you think adults shouldn't have a sense of humor.

    • @juangalindoeguiarte9913
      @juangalindoeguiarte9913 Před 4 lety +22

      @@ordanburdan9397 what a nasty comment, you're not automatically mature if you don't like humor. Let people enjoy learning however they want.

  • @WillowTDog
    @WillowTDog Před 3 lety +79

    I am absolutely amazed that I managed to just stumble upon this incredible lecturer! I'd been watching historical cooking, then a random video about Egyptology, then something from the British Museum with this wonderful, charming man. Such a great style and sense of humor! Plus, that hair and beard! He ticks all the boxes for a wizard, or gentlemen scientist, or Santa. Just makes my inner child gleeful.

  • @MsKariSmith
    @MsKariSmith Před 2 měsíci +5

    A very admirable professor, always interesting & a joy to hear his talks.

  • @gerdfehlbaum7059
    @gerdfehlbaum7059 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Wonderful story ! I had a company, called Noah's of Switzerland. I lived along the backwaters of Kerala - where this arc was built - I am a sailor and feel enlightened by such a nice man talking about. About familiar places and ideas. I always thought of noahs arch being a good idea. An old childish picture which follows thyrough my life, by living on a boat.
    What I think was not mentioned was, that this type of boats are in general use all over the backwaters of Kerala. I have seen them daily in 2012-13, when I visited India with my own boat. Coming from New Zealand. I have very much enjoyed my excursions within this magic and surprisingly natural wonder of the world, called Backwaters of Kerala. Go there, if you have a chance! Incredible India!

    • @uiPublic
      @uiPublic Před 6 měsíci +1

      More congruently maybe that Backwater boats are wooden but fastened by coir ropes if Iraqi carocles built conversely?
      Yet it's interestingly curious if not arcs actually made lighter with Mesopotamian dry reeds not coconut ropes more heavy!
      At the same time ancients had reached American coast either floating indefinitely thanks only to our ancestor Noah's narrator...

    • @jabrown
      @jabrown Před 2 měsíci

      What happened to your company?

  • @johncollins211
    @johncollins211 Před 2 lety +38

    how popular is this guy in england? even though hes the worlds expert on cuneiform script i feel like most people dont know him. this man is an international treasure. he dedicated his entire life to helping the human race understand its origins more clearly. i sure hope hes got a protégé. the importance of people like him cannot be understated. this man dedicated his life to something he knew he may never make any real money in. im sure he does well now but he didnt know he would the top guy when he decided to study cuneiform. its weird because in america the culture is you study whats going to make you alot of money. the idea of studying cuneiform in college is laughable by most people in this country everyone will tell you that your wasting your money studying an ancient dead language. if your not going into med law or finance then your wasting your education lol. dr finkel is a real hero without people like him parts of history can be lost forever and thats an absolute tradegy. the biggest question to any human should be how did i get here?

    • @kevwhufc8640
      @kevwhufc8640 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I agree he should be known to more people than he is.
      Like many historical academics, he doesn't earn much
      Youd be surprised.
      He does it for the love for the passion , he could earn more if he left the British museum and went on tour earning money from his lectures .

  • @BristolPeterUK
    @BristolPeterUK Před 2 měsíci +2

    Brilliant lecture - it is very rare to find someone who can be so knowledgeable and passionate about a subject and can communicate that love, with humour, in a way that people can understand.

  • @z.s.n.
    @z.s.n. Před 4 lety +38

    What a treat to have this randomly selected for me by the All Powerful Algorithm.

  • @MIchlas
    @MIchlas Před 3 lety +239

    This gentleman is a true legend... love hear him talking..

  • @suzettecalleja3122
    @suzettecalleja3122 Před 2 měsíci +3

    It's always a joy to listen to Dr. Finkle. ❤😊

  • @edwardhanson3664
    @edwardhanson3664 Před 10 měsíci +18

    Fascinating. I love his humor,. Mr. Finkel is a gifted speaker.

    • @Glenn-F-Rice
      @Glenn-F-Rice Před 10 měsíci

      I came to hear him speak after watching him play the board game from UR.

  • @RobertKaucher
    @RobertKaucher Před 6 lety +158

    This is officially my favorite video on CZcams. I'm now going to binge watch every Irving Finkle video I can find. I am at work listening to this while I wait on a server to deploy and trying to stifle laughter.

  • @rblibit
    @rblibit Před 4 lety +96

    His sense of humor is classic Brit- but there is also a touch of Monte Python's famous "wait for the audience to catch up, then quickly hit them again" method of delivery. Entertaniment and education, both at their finest. I have already watched this twice, but I am back a year later for "another hit" of his high level humor.

    • @bswantner2
      @bswantner2 Před rokem +4

      I was getting distinct hints of Sir Terry Pratchett.

  • @johnmel9456
    @johnmel9456 Před měsícem +1

    This is the proper way for a lecturer to engage an audience.... brilliantly done ....

  • @alzmcfluffy
    @alzmcfluffy Před 2 měsíci +2

    What an absolutely brilliant speaker Dr. Finkel is! Loved listening to his lecture.

  • @michaelhoughton4868
    @michaelhoughton4868 Před 4 lety +147

    This is such a fun, nerdy watch. One of my favorite varieties of human is adorably funny, middlingly cantankerous, beardy old British scientists. He’s seriously hilarious in the nerdiest way.
    I had zero expectation of watching a full hour lecture on the Babylonian flood story, or the gonzo archaeology of building something from the description in an ancient cuneiform table. But 5 minutes in, I was hooked by his style, and the deeply fascinating info he’s presenting. With seriously minimal slides, he leads you through one of the best documentaries I’ve experienced in a while, especially since so much is theater of the mind.
    I think it would work well as a podcast, just occasionally glancing at his new slides, or appreciating his majestic, flowing eyebrows (and beard). And I’m totally looking up more lectures by Irving Finkel.

    • @jeanfatale
      @jeanfatale Před 4 lety +1

      Nah, not nerdy. You don't have to have some special interest or knowledge to like and understand this lecture. Seems to me this nerd romanticism says more about how certain people want to present themselves as special than about their actual interests.

    • @tizamira
      @tizamira Před 4 lety +2

      @@jeanfatale OP is calling Finkel nerdy, not the watchers. Talking about ancient Babylonian text about a prototype story for the Noah's ark story strikes me as nerdy. Being a curator and studying assyriology strikes me as nerdy

  • @BrandiZaster
    @BrandiZaster Před 3 lety +33

    I think Mr. Finkel missed his calling as a comedian. He's incredibly funny and entertaining and I can't get enough of him.

    • @laulaja-7186
      @laulaja-7186 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Stable career as a professor, and comedy to liven it up. Sounds like a winning combination to me!

  • @debsylvester2012
    @debsylvester2012 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Without a doubt, one of the top three lecturers I have ever heard. Wow! What a great guy! Thank you. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @89volvowithlazers
    @89volvowithlazers Před 2 měsíci +4

    Thankyou for posting Dr Finkle, you are amazing

  • @garychap8384
    @garychap8384 Před 4 lety +337

    Someone get this man a TED talk, a TV Series and a Movie deal : )

    • @garychap8384
      @garychap8384 Před 4 lety +16

      @@chocotaco1225 Oooh Interesting...
      Care to explain how he is a fraud? Is he perhaps inventing his academic credentials? Oh... wait... Is 'Irwin Finkel' an alias? ... Is he simply looking up cuneiform on some obscure beta-version of google translate?
      I'm sure you wouldn't bismirch a mans integrity without good cause. It'd be bearing false witness for one... and, it'd be a cowardly slanderous black-hearted whisper from the shadows if you weren't prepared to stand by your accusation. So I'm sure you wouldn't just slyly whisper "Fraud and Liar" from the wings and disappear into the night.
      So, out with it... let the truth be known by all. If you intend to destroy a mans honour, do it boldly ... and not from the shadows.
      It should be very easy. He is, by all accounts, a man of academia - so if your allegation holds water, he will be gladly unmasked by his peers.
      As for being despised...
      Personally I'm not too worried about whether "powerful and religious" people despise his theories. More often than not, this has historically served as a signpost of academic integrity.... after all, the powerfull and the religious always benefit greatly from maintaining status quo and the suppression of knowledge ... of course, they've slowly been losing control of that for centuries... particularly after both holy books and treatises became subject to the printing press and general education meant everyone could finally read them...
      ... till then, the powerful and holy had always held their advantage over the common man jealously, and sought to keep him subservient through lies and threats.
      So, contention among the established? well... that's nothing too worrying...
      But actual FRAUD ?!?! Now that WOULD interesting.
      So, go ahead Keta, explain your slanderous self and unmask this charlatain... or, slink back into the shadows on your cowardly belly like a serpent.
      Either way, we will learn much.

    • @thetruthchannel349
      @thetruthchannel349 Před 4 lety +5

      @GaryChap - Ya, make him miserable and ruin his legacy forever. That sounds like a good plan. I say leave him alone and let him do what he does best.

    • @Br1cht
      @Br1cht Před 4 lety

      @@garychap8384 Well said sir, well said indeed!

    • @bhavasamraksha5732
      @bhavasamraksha5732 Před 4 lety +1

      And don't forget the Netflix special

    • @thekhansha
      @thekhansha Před 4 lety +2

      He has already made a presentation at the Royal Institute on the same material. These are prestigious institutes.

  • @tati001
    @tati001 Před 4 lety +21

    I love his wittiness! He’s sharp and insightful!

  • @timbarton6145
    @timbarton6145 Před 7 měsíci +1

    That is probably the most interesting and enjoyable lectures I have ever listened to.

  • @dawnwheeler8861
    @dawnwheeler8861 Před měsícem +1

    The best lecture I've ever watched. History with humour. What a genius of a man

  • @littlemama3957
    @littlemama3957 Před 4 lety +10

    My best friend was like this...he was such an intelligent man....he died of a rare children's cancer....he really brought the Bible to life for me..rip fozzi bear...see you in heaven one day

  • @jimruegg1675
    @jimruegg1675 Před 7 lety +228

    hands down best lecture ive watched on youtube. i would work for dr. finkel for free just to absorb his knowledge and coolness.

    • @user-sc2jz9ng6k
      @user-sc2jz9ng6k Před 6 lety +4

      Another gem is 'A Tribute to Euler' by William Dunham. Exciting lectures are certainly few and far between.

    • @laurafeher9694
      @laurafeher9694 Před 4 lety +1

      And I shall sweep the area you work in and absorb the scraps of knowledge

    • @billhart9832
      @billhart9832 Před 4 lety +1

      I should have read the comments before nearly plagiarising yours, 2 years later!

    • @aprylvanryn5898
      @aprylvanryn5898 Před 4 lety

      You should see the actual documentary he's lecturing about. It's brilliant.

    • @johaquila
      @johaquila Před 3 lety +1

      @@user-sc2jz9ng6k I have just watched that based on your recommendation. It's a great talk, but I think you really need to be mathematically minded to enjoy it. I'm actually a mathematician myself, but I enjoyed Irving Finkel's talk a lot more. Maybe if Euler lived today and gave a talk on a popular subject it would be on similar level.

  • @SierraNovemberKilo
    @SierraNovemberKilo Před 7 měsíci

    What a delightful man. Fabulous lecture/reminiscences.

  • @patriciaoudart1508
    @patriciaoudart1508 Před rokem +11

    Third time watching and listening to Finkel story! Going so far in World's History, with the early way of writing, in that humoristic way, this is amazing, fresh, so close to the ancestors he is reading texts, as if they were knocking at the door.🙏🧡💚

    • @Thehermitist
      @Thehermitist Před 7 měsíci

      I’m so happy u get to feel close to ur ancestors and beautiful history history like this pretty awesome ❤

  • @allthingspaw
    @allthingspaw Před 6 lety +99

    This man is a treasure, how privileged we are to have been able to see and hear him speak.

  • @pvsutton3126
    @pvsutton3126 Před 3 lety +35

    I haven't scrutinised all 2,00 and counting comments, but there is one point I haven't seen raised. this man sounds very like Terry Pratchett - same accent, same pitch, same intonation, same way of delivering a joke. Also same academic dottiness which Pratchett could produce. Missing you Sir Terry.

    • @clareryan2640
      @clareryan2640 Před 2 lety

      Dead right, always thought the same😝

    • @TheEudaemonicPlague
      @TheEudaemonicPlague Před rokem

      I had the opportunity to meet Terry Pratchett in the early 90s--he was guest of honor at Capricon 13, held near Chicago (can't remember the name of the town, or the venue right now). Unfortunately, I didn't know he'd be there, so I didn't take my copy of The Color of Magic with, to get an autograph. Also unfortunate, was that I didn't get to hear him speak much. This was before I'd found more of the Discworld books, so I was under the impression that it was a one-off...so glad it wasn't.

  • @saddingus7850
    @saddingus7850 Před rokem +6

    thank you so much for allowing the public to enjoy this knowledge for free. as a person of limited means that still loves to learn it makes my day. this speaker was great.

  • @dweamy1
    @dweamy1 Před měsícem +1

    I loved listening and watching Mr Finkel speak! More of his lectures please!

  • @NDRonin1401
    @NDRonin1401 Před 7 lety +1336

    hearing this guy's life stories, it turns out curator is a more exciting job than James Bond

  • @nordattack
    @nordattack Před 3 lety +234

    Actually, I think he is Noah, still alive, trying to put us off the track so we don't discover his secret.

    • @applemauzel
      @applemauzel Před 3 lety +17

      Naw, we already concluded that he is a wizard, likely merlin.

    • @Lodinn
      @Lodinn Před 3 lety +13

      @@applemauzel So the Merlin is the descendant of Noah?
      ...Come to think of it, it does make sense that whoever he is he'd be a descendant of Noah.

    • @lewisham
      @lewisham Před 3 lety +10

      MrLodinn isn’t everyone?

    • @dorothysalomons6136
      @dorothysalomons6136 Před 3 lety +1

      @@lewisham LOL

    • @johnwalker1553
      @johnwalker1553 Před 3 lety +1

      Rather Albus Dumbledore.

  • @BradGryphonn
    @BradGryphonn Před měsícem +1

    I'm late for the show but yep, this lecture is brilliant!

  • @geoffreyraleigh1674
    @geoffreyraleigh1674 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I always love listening to Dr. Finkel. Thank you for the opportunity to subscribe.

  • @antonmcesaro
    @antonmcesaro Před 4 lety +80

    Just found 2 years after publish. Good lecture and Irving is great at throwing in some comedy. Very informative and entertaining.

    • @ExperiencedGhost
      @ExperiencedGhost Před 4 lety +4

      Only his information is not completely correct, he keeps referring to Atra-Hasis while the Epic of Gilgamesh is older and the measurements of the boat on that tablet was damaged and not readable at all. Noah's name was Utnapishtim though on that tablet. But a copy from that same period was found and it told the story about the flood and a man. The part that described the measurements and how to build it was complete. He never build the boat all by himself but with skilled workmen. Why Irving Finkel keeps saying that Enki told Atra-Hasis about the flood I don't know because Enki never mentioned the name Atra-Hasis. He told about the flood but did not used that name. Also, there's even an older tablet that was found then the Epic of Gilgamesh from the Nagas civilization but it was damaged severely. But enough was left to know that it was about a flood and a man.

  • @briananderson2219
    @briananderson2219 Před 2 lety +17

    This fella is amazing! How can you be so direct and intellectual, yet deliver it with such humor has to keep the person entertained and enthralled? I don’t know, but obviously Dr. Finkel does. Love this guy

  • @planetlondon6145
    @planetlondon6145 Před 7 měsíci

    The most important academic lecture on ancient history,archaeology of human civilisation that I watched so far.

  • @fausto104
    @fausto104 Před 13 dny

    I saw this documentary years ago, so it was nice to see this and get the complete story around it. Doc. has a very smooth and funny delivery made this truly enjoyable to watch.

  • @strangetranceoffaith
    @strangetranceoffaith Před 3 lety +81

    Wonderful I do hope Irving has a family because his line in dad jokes really is deserving of the correct audience.

  • @granddame1000
    @granddame1000 Před 7 lety +1516

    this man is a blast to watch loved his lecture

    • @racbirsingh7005
      @racbirsingh7005 Před 5 lety +13

      love the part about the doors were made for Rages to go to work on Elephants. Bible Ark all around the World

    • @tommcdaniel2208
      @tommcdaniel2208 Před 5 lety +3

      Too right!

    • @Matteus733
      @Matteus733 Před 4 lety +4

      Agreed

    • @Prometeusz
      @Prometeusz Před 4 lety +4

      ahh , a lot of blabla and exaggeration in humour in academic style - too much words to communicate simple and concrete information

    • @Prometeusz
      @Prometeusz Před 4 lety +3

      so to speak 'puring water' - "lanie wody" po polsku

  • @Bell_the_Cat
    @Bell_the_Cat Před 7 měsíci

    What an absolutely charming and engrossing talk. Enjoyable and enlightening from beginning to end.

  • @rajidahae4220
    @rajidahae4220 Před 11 měsíci +14

    What a fabulous presenter, fascinating subject, great humor and storytelling!
    So glad I stumbled upon Irving Finkel...

  • @GryphonArmorer
    @GryphonArmorer Před 4 lety +294

    I love this gentleman. He's extremely knowledgeable, educational and freaking hilarious.
    Great video. I had a great laugh and learned a lot of interesting history.

  • @awickedqueenytid
    @awickedqueenytid Před 5 lety +14

    Irving Finkel is a national treasure, its a good thing he works in the museum :)

  • @Samshologram
    @Samshologram Před 8 měsíci

    Great lecture .. thank you . I loved his energy in the presentation. Good vibes

  • @funniebunnie4u
    @funniebunnie4u Před 8 měsíci +6

    What a LEGEND. Wonderful new information, from an eloquent and interesting scholar. What a treat! Loved it ALL!💕💕💕

  • @afrog2666
    @afrog2666 Před 4 lety +265

    Wish my school teachers were like this, I might actually have learned something..

    • @richardwendling4030
      @richardwendling4030 Před 4 lety +2

      You would be a school teacher

    • @ashique7987
      @ashique7987 Před 4 lety

      Lol

    • @crystallee2609
      @crystallee2609 Před 4 lety +1

      Indeed

    • @lockergr
      @lockergr Před 4 lety +1

      My favorite professor in college was an English teacher who was about this fella's age. Wisdom in age, that's for sure. I don't think my professor was quite as funny as this fell out but he had a way of making very early English literature fascinating.

    • @333annabelle
      @333annabelle Před 4 lety

      I was thinking the same ;)

  • @mperhaps
    @mperhaps Před 8 měsíci +7

    The earlier Mesopotamian accounts included not only an apocalyptic flood and a guy, tipped off by a god, who saves himself, his family, and the world's creatures by building a ship, but also specific details, such as the dispatching of a raven and a dove in search of land, the grounding of the ark atop a mountain.

    • @WarrenPostma
      @WarrenPostma Před 7 měsíci

      What’s the date of the earliest account?

    • @rtu9734
      @rtu9734 Před 3 měsíci

      Makes you wonder how many original stories the bible has

  • @loveandllife
    @loveandllife Před 2 lety +18

    This lecture is so informative and entertaining at the same time, no wonder the audience was responding with enthusiasm

  • @jloredo08
    @jloredo08 Před rokem +4

    A marvelous and extremely pleasant experience listening to this informative lecture.

  • @Soulsmithing
    @Soulsmithing Před 7 měsíci

    What an awesome lecture by an intelligent, witty and very knowledgeable man!

  • @arcanics1971
    @arcanics1971 Před 5 lety +70

    What a fantastic lecture. I only meant to watch the first few minutes and suddenly it was ending- and that too soon!

  • @albertl7872
    @albertl7872 Před 4 lety +81

    This gentleman is an excellent orator and explains things in a way that's interesting and intriguing! Thank you!

    • @fig4159
      @fig4159 Před 4 lety +2

      Don't forget funny!!!!

    • @lindayoung3228
      @lindayoung3228 Před 4 lety

      Which of Noah's sons was Asian? Which of Noah's sons was Black? Hmmm - there's is a story of the Flood in each culture though . . .

  • @kearneyIT
    @kearneyIT Před měsícem +1

    brilliant lecture, loved every moment of it. Would love to have a loooong talk with this man.

  • @tracieaton3128
    @tracieaton3128 Před 3 měsíci

    Amazing, I am in no way well educated in this area but in general terms an ancient history student of an age with Dr. Finkel. The whole thing makes perfect sense when you fill in the details of human life at the time of the original writing. He tells a very human tale with grace and humor. Vivat!!

  • @firsteerr
    @firsteerr Před 6 lety +39

    there are very few people who are so obviously in love with their subject and can communicate that , Irving being one of Britain best !! i ahev learned more from this guy in two years then i did my whole time at school in history class

  • @Flintchick212
    @Flintchick212 Před 7 lety +272

    I'm so excited I found Irving Finkel! I started with the Royal Game of Ur, was on Facebook today.

  • @MrUSO36
    @MrUSO36 Před 7 měsíci +22

    Irving is a incredible being, I appreciate him.

  • @MARKETMAN6789
    @MARKETMAN6789 Před 4 měsíci

    I don't know what I'm doing here but so glad I am ,what a great interesting lecturer I would never go looking for something like this ,but it is wonderful ,he's the kind of person who could have kept me awake when I was at secondary school ,thank you

  • @paulsharrow3004
    @paulsharrow3004 Před 3 lety +15

    The reality of energy and knowledge given by an humble man carries me to greater knowledge and very joyously at that, Irving. You are precious of course.

  • @sabastiankilgore781
    @sabastiankilgore781 Před 4 lety +16

    Dr. Irving is one of the most engaging speakers I've seen. Always love his lectures

  • @massivechafe
    @massivechafe Před 11 měsíci +1

    Such a joy to listen to, thank you Irving!!

  • @bluebuddy46422
    @bluebuddy46422 Před měsícem

    I am hooked, what a great lecture. Dr Finkle was able to capture my attention and delivered all the information in an entertaining way which allowed me to absorb all the facts. Now I am on a search to find other lectures by this professor. Thank you, CZcams !!

  • @TT-zd6nr
    @TT-zd6nr Před 7 lety +240

    Very good indeed. English academic humour at its best. Also brought his book to life, though that is also very entertaining.

  • @jeremyfox7599
    @jeremyfox7599 Před 4 lety +11

    Irving Finkel is the greatest teacher! We would have been so lucky to have had him lecturing and teaching where I once studied! At least we have plenty of new video recordings of him speaking on CZcams which I have been watching through, each and everyone is wonderful! Thank you, Mr Finkel.

  • @wrdennig
    @wrdennig Před 7 měsíci +2

    History from a stand-up comedian . . . what a joy!

  • @uweburkart373
    @uweburkart373 Před 5 dny +1

    😂 wounderfull that professor! I've never expected an "expert" to be that funny like a show-star, rather expected a dry boring and endless quouting of strange countings of the misterious past long forgotten..
    What an experience! 😅 Wunderbar Dr. Finkelstein you are a gem!

  • @seraphimmarysantiago8011
    @seraphimmarysantiago8011 Před 4 lety +40

    From beginning to end he had my attention, this was fascinating and what an amazing speaker. Just great energy throughout the entire story he shares. 👍👍👍 a man whose passion for Noah's atk is captivating.

    • @michealfreeman9714
      @michealfreeman9714 Před rokem

      It's not Noah's ark

    • @LibertyPr1me
      @LibertyPr1me Před rokem

      @@michealfreeman9714 it’s what the story was based on you pedant

    • @semaj_5022
      @semaj_5022 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Babylonian ark. *Babylonian.* Sumerian or Akkadian ark would also be acceptable.