Chevy MYSTERY Misfire - Part 3 (98 K2500 Labor Day Special)

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  • čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
  • So the 1998 Chevy K2500 is back in action and running very nicely with the new intake manifold gaskets.
    Last issue is to figure out why it's setting a P1345 - Cam Correlation code.
    I find a very weird problem with the distributor, but get it sorted NO PARTS REQUIRED :)
    Enjoy, and Happy Labor Day!
    Ivan
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Komentáře • 421

  • @kenalex0353
    @kenalex0353 Před 2 lety +52

    1000 miles from home my 99 5.7 dumped it's coolant in the motel parking lot overnight. Had to take it to a GM dealer and pay $600.00 (or so) to replace the intake gasket. Got it back and 20 miles down the road it threw the P1345. Got it home and found the distributor slammed all the way clockwise (plug wire boot half crammed under the intake) The tech knew he got it one tooth off but was too lazy to pull it and re-index... I pulled it and fixed that...6 months later coolant is leaking into cylinder over night. Replaced the gasket with a FEL-PRO MS 98000, converted from CPI to MPI using the Delphi conversion and ditched the DexCool.... that was 2014 and 80k miles ago never had another problem...

    • @robertweir9034
      @robertweir9034 Před 2 lety +4

      Good job!!

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před 2 lety +5

      Fel-Pro has been the leader in gaskets for several decades. Way better than ANY oem part and I wouldn't use an OEM gasket over Fel-Pro ever !

    • @brianmason8400
      @brianmason8400 Před 2 lety +4

      Garth Clark.....1000% AGREED!!!!

  • @leoashrae4199
    @leoashrae4199 Před 2 lety +96

    I'm afraid you took a header down the rabbit hole this time. Check your #2 video at 2:46 and 3:00. Right after you dropped it back in, it was off one tooth (shaft turned one tooth clockwise). All of us old-farts who noticed that knew exactly what was going to happen. Don't beat yourself up... it was just your turn to learn about it. This is a common problem and has been a problem with this engine ever since its original incarnation as the 265. And, back then it was worse. You had to index the distributer shaft with the oil pump drive tang while simultaneously getting the distributer gear timed with the camshaft... all at the same time. That's why SOP for small-block intake service (or removing the distributer for any reason) was to ALWAYS set the engine at TDC, mark the base of the distributer to the intake manifold (that was your mystery mark) , AND mark the rotor tang alinement to the distributer body before we pulled the distributer... and then disconnect the battery so no one could bump the starter and mess it all up.

    • @HouseCallAutoRepair
      @HouseCallAutoRepair Před 2 lety +11

      You went into much more detail.. nicely caught details!

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před 2 lety +11

      I saw that too. Best to mark it in three places, the manifold, dist housing and the rotor just to make it easy and line up with the oil pump blade.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 2 lety +19

      I thought that I might be a tooth off, but shifting it one tooth (55 crank degrees) is was too far. That's why I had to reinstall the distributor gear 180 degrees so that it would effectively shift 22 degrees to its happy spot 👌😉

    • @yomomma9070
      @yomomma9070 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, TDC #1 b4 disturbing dist is SOP, and best to do to ease reassembly, but I've neglected to do it too on a 4.3 Astro Van to be precise. I was kicking myself for not doing that critical step in the end. A mistake I learned from. Mine was misfiring tho, timing way off.

    • @leoashrae4199
      @leoashrae4199 Před 2 lety +11

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Actually, when you noted that you had gone from 18 degrees retarded to 34 degrees, that was the precise point when I was certain that you were originally off by one tooth. So, I went back to Video #2 and found where you did it. It's fairly clear. Before you pulled the distributer out, the rotor tab was farther to the right (more counterclockwise) than it was when you put it back in. Then, to verify that what I saw had to be correct, I noted that if you had repositioned the distributer in the correct direction, it MUST land somewhere closer, either in it's control region (for 0-degrees at idle)... or at the very least it would have made it better, not worse.
      Why GM designed it so you can get a 0-degree retard even when the distributer is off a tooth is beyond me. As you found out, the ECU can compensate far enough to make you think you've found the correct position at idle, only to find that under load, at higher RPM, it runs out of software control range... and you get your code back. At least in the old days we had plenty of indications that something was not lined up right... like the steel vacuum advance line won't line up with the distributer and can't be connected, or plug wires mysteriously became too short, and sometimes (if you were more than one tooth off) it wouldn't run at all. Hence, the mantra that all of us old guys use on small-block GM V8s: whenever we pull a distributer out you set it at TDC, mark the distributer body to the intake manifold, mark the rotor contact tab location on the distributer body to verify it's at #1, and then disconnect the battery so nothing moves.
      BTW: You did something that I have tried many times, but have never been very successful at: you didn't strip all the accessories from the top of the motor and you still got the intake on without moving the gaskets out of position. I suppose I'm not steady enough, but I always end up with a leak (usually coolant) if I don't get EVERYTHING out of the way... and I've done this job five to ten times a year for over forty years. I always quote an extra hour over book because I have to clear off everything that can touch the manifold. And then, to make sure the gaskets don't move, I Permatex High Tac them to the heads so they can't budge. When you dropped that manifold on (with a thud), I thought for sure you'd have a leak... You've got the touch.

  • @keltecshooter
    @keltecshooter Před 2 lety +61

    White mystery mark aligns with a mark on back of intake , the rotor has a tang opposite the contact that aligns with the 8 on the distributor housing , when TDC cyl 1 , flipping the gear is an old trick to compensate for chain wear , great video BTW nostalgic for us older techs

    • @frozenstang3868
      @frozenstang3868 Před 2 lety +2

      I have to take a nap now, been rolling my eyes so hard .

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 Před 2 lety +2

      if you catch it in video, you'll see the gear is worn about 1/2 way through the teeth and there's a sharp step visible. if not for that it would be close enough still

    • @kwils6685
      @kwils6685 Před 2 lety +3

      @@throttlebottle5906 I thought I saw a worn distributor gear too but only on one tooth and thought maybe it was a reflection, was there another spot in the video where you could see the wear better? With 147,000 miles on that truck, if they've never been replaced, I would suspect the gear and the timing chain for sure.

    • @richavery6003
      @richavery6003 Před 2 lety

      Mr. Pine hollow I have a 2011 camaro ss ls3 engine ,after I bought car ,I'm In FL. Battery was 4 years ,I replaced because had to get jump , I use my car every day to go to work ,starts with no problems and when I finish work no problem ,but when I go to the store for bread,car almost doesn't start ,I do a circuit test for two hours and system never goes to sleep still has 12.5 v ,dealership says my car only draws v that it needs ,I'm hoping to add an external adj. Voltage regulator for 14 v all the time ,the form says there 12.5 is normal for camaro and when I'm at idle for awhile I've seen the v. Go down to 11.8 ,I think this to low and sug

    • @hightttech
      @hightttech Před 2 lety

      @@richavery6003: 1. Do you mean that after you buy bread, the car doesn't START, or it doesn't CRANK??? 2. If voltage is 11.8V at idle, then troubleshoot the real cause of low voltage. If alternator at fault, then retrofitting an external V-reg useless.

  • @tpformybunghole1974
    @tpformybunghole1974 Před 2 lety +35

    Attention fellow 5.7 vortec owners I got the correlation code also when I never did before. My suburban has 147k it was sluggish and downshifting too much trying to maintain speed. Long story short it was winter and the front calipers were essentially rusted stuck in the caliper brackets and had to be hammered off. Once I replaced the calipers and pads that took away that excessive drag and excessive load on the engine the correlation code cleared and never came back. In my research I found a worn distributor can also cause the code but figured I'd share my experience. Also my truck gets infrequent use usually only on weekends and for couple years it would idle fine but if I dropped it in drive and took off it would act like it was starving for fuel for about a block then clear up. This would happen every time truck was restarted even when warm. Because I use truck so infrequently it took 2 years before the engine light came on indicating mass airflow sensor reading wrong. I cleaned it by disassembling it and using qtips soaked in maf cleaner. Stumbling gone, big increase in power, and light stayed off. On the subject of MAF sensors on these trucks the transmission can be severely damaged if your maf is not functioning because transmission uses maf values to determine internal pressures applied to the clutches. I learned that from watching precision transmission CZcams channel, they do A LOT of 4l60e transmission rebuilds

  • @mariosaccoccio1688
    @mariosaccoccio1688 Před 2 lety +10

    "You cannot put the rotor 180° out of spec."
    The early GM rotors had a round plug & a square plug. I pulled the distributor to replace a vacuum advance. When I installed the distributor, following my mark, installed the rotor, the car wouldn't start. Someone had installed the rotor backwards (yes, Virginia, you can put a square plug in a round hole) so I reinstalled the distributor 180° & the car ran fine!
    "For every fool-proof plan, there's a fool to screw it up!"

    • @robertweir9034
      @robertweir9034 Před 2 lety +2

      Good point.

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před 2 lety +1

      Elephants and bears shouldn't be working on delicate parts !

    • @mattcat231
      @mattcat231 Před 2 lety +2

      ive actually done the rotor 180 off on an old gm 2.8, so in my infinite wisdom on the side of i-90 in Minnesota at 2am, i just swapped the wires on the cap and got it running enough to get me back to Pittsburgh, that was 20 years ago

  • @bonedaddy4670
    @bonedaddy4670 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for the vid and happy Labor Day to all!

  • @colorblind1983
    @colorblind1983 Před 2 lety +1

    Good ol’ 4 bolt main 350. Great video trio!

  • @RobertCiampa9112
    @RobertCiampa9112 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank You for the LD Special!

  • @bergankas
    @bergankas Před rokem

    Thanks for the great three video series, loved all of it, very informative!

  • @billziegmond4943
    @billziegmond4943 Před 2 lety +3

    Uuuugh our friend cam crank correlation code. Nice fix Ivan. Enjoy your Labor Day my friend.

  • @pantherplatform
    @pantherplatform Před 2 lety +11

    I'm so glad you didn't make us wait a week or a month like these other guys.

  • @craiggoodwin9704
    @craiggoodwin9704 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for sharing. Happy Labor Day!

  • @shotgunreport
    @shotgunreport Před 2 lety +2

    That was the most amazing diagnosis I've seen you do.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 2 lety

      Really? It's just a Chevy truck distributor... But some math was required 🙂

    • @shotgunreport
      @shotgunreport Před 2 lety

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics My impression was the truck was not throwing the timing code when you started the job, only after you pulled the distributor, the intake gasket was replaced, and you re-installed the distributor. If so, then it would follow that you did something to cause the timing code to appear as you touched the distributor. If my lay persons assessment is correct, then I would deduce that you did re-installed the distributor wrong. I don't understand how the truck ran with the distributor gear installed incorrectly.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 2 lety

      @@shotgunreport it must have been at the limit of adjustment, not far enough off to set the code 👍

  • @apollomorelos727
    @apollomorelos727 Před 2 lety +2

    Another fine job.

  • @arnaldofettuccine5227
    @arnaldofettuccine5227 Před 2 lety +10

    Wow, the things you get into with these vehicles are mind-boggling. 😮🤪👍

  • @SammLloy481
    @SammLloy481 Před rokem

    Dude, that was worth watching all 3 parts..I had a hell of a time with my 1999 k1500 5.7 after the new distributor got put in for Several months only to finally find out it was the distributor pick up coils and this issue with the 180° off..now I have a OEM distributor GM and it didn't have this problem. This is a Chevy deal. I love the truck but damn, the simplest thing can throw the whole system off. Thanks for posting this. I will share this all my garage buddys.

  • @johnclamshellsp1969
    @johnclamshellsp1969 Před 2 lety +5

    Great videos as always. Regarding the 1996/1999 GM 5.7 Vortec with the distributor gear off 180 or 1/2 tooth, and being aftermarket, here is the 99% issue. That model distributor has a weak metal plate that the rotor screws into. Most just replace the whole unit for this. The real cure is to tap one size larger screw (fine thread) and drill out the rotor one size. Use red LockTight to lockdown. Can be done on the vehicle and just blow out shavings.

    • @blue03r6
      @blue03r6 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Another very common issue was the cap screw would blow out the plastic tab on the distributors base so the cap wouldnt stay on. I found a company who actually started making metal distributors and a better rotor attachment option. Way more threads. I put one in mine and all of the known distributor issues went away for me. I never had the correlation issue because i know how to install a distributor properly 😂

  • @mkilptrick
    @mkilptrick Před 2 lety

    Hope you also have a happy Labor Day Ivan.

  • @phillloyd8625
    @phillloyd8625 Před 2 lety +3

    Really like your approach Ivan, another great video

  • @robbflynn4325
    @robbflynn4325 Před 2 lety

    Happy Labor Day to you also. Hope you are relaxing and not working!

  • @brianw8963
    @brianw8963 Před 2 lety +5

    Thanks for the Labor Day weekend GM trilogy Ivan!

  • @dougkubash8673
    @dougkubash8673 Před 6 měsíci

    Good job! You got the old Chevy sounding good. Back in the '80's we had 4 1983 F-700's with the 429CI gas engines that had constant problems with leaking intake gaskets. It wasn't a bad job to replace them but the intake manifolds weighed about as much as a complete small block Chevy! haha

  • @claytoncoolidge992
    @claytoncoolidge992 Před 2 lety +9

    Woo-hoo way to go ivan nice choices all around on this one. Hope you holiday weekend was great and relaxing.

  • @charlesmiller7861
    @charlesmiller7861 Před 2 lety

    I might not have all the high dollar code readers like you, but I do use the same oil filler funnel.
    Nice Series. Wished you lived around me, I would keep you busy.

  • @jerrymoore7669
    @jerrymoore7669 Před 2 lety +10

    My son's 98 GMC with the 4.3 had a bad distributor causing it to misfire on humid days. Put in a after market distributor from Amazon. It never ran right it caused us run down some unneeded rabbit holes trying to figure this thing out. Couldn't get the timing right. Broke down and bought an ac Delco distributor, problem fixed instantly. 2 years later It has never missed a beat yet .

    • @_RiseAgainst
      @_RiseAgainst Před 2 lety +6

      It took me years to track this same problem down. Aftermarket would work fine for a few months then on humid days it would misfire until it got hot. AC Delco solved this and taught me a valuable lesson in avoiding "OEM style" parts.

    • @justcubbin
      @justcubbin Před 2 lety +2

      Some of the shoddier aftermarketers have a bad habit of pressing the rotor head on to the shaft just a bit off.

  • @tomh6779
    @tomh6779 Před 2 lety +10

    Not sure on this one Ivan. I think you may need to start fresh on this all over again. Back to number 1 TDC and go through the routine. Something isn’t right.

  • @tracydiller9378
    @tracydiller9378 Před 2 lety +3

    Great diag. and fix video Ivan.That customer may still have a worn timing chain but them after market parts are horrible. I always advice to use O.E. parts if possible.Thanks for this L.D. weekend videos.

  • @Dancing_Alone_wRentals

    tHanks for that bonus footage.

  • @LimestoneCoastCustoms
    @LimestoneCoastCustoms Před 2 měsíci

    Well, after watching the 3 videos I'm starting to think maybe it my inlet manifold gasket that is defunct! I have a rough idle but it revs fine & have now discovered an oil leak at the back of the motor which I originally thought was a valve cover gasket. I did do a smoke test on the inlet chasing what I thought was a vacuum leak but couldn't see any smoke at the rear. It's a pretty big job on mine as I also have other accessories like an air compressor mounted over the power steer pump. I've never been a fan of no inlet manifold bolts in the middle but mine might be a failure at the rear. Thanks for the videos, I think they will be of great help! P.S. there isn't many of these trucks in Australia (only 460 sold) so there's no one with any experience but I'm happy to do all my own work anyway. Cheers!

  • @tomharrison6762
    @tomharrison6762 Před rokem

    You are a hero !

  • @gregorypace2641
    @gregorypace2641 Před 2 lety +2

    The Vortec has a hardened camshaft (roller cam) they are good at eating up the gear on the distributor shaft. The cheap plastic distributors are also famous for cracking at the distributor cap screw holes. I recommend replacing the distributor with an upgraded aluminum distributor. I also always put the crank at #1 TDC prior to removing the distributor, I have done a lot of there and never had a problem.

  • @jamesbruno5896
    @jamesbruno5896 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice job Ivan happy labor day!

  • @stevenhzoll7057
    @stevenhzoll7057 Před 2 lety +1

    Used to work on a lot of 4.3 V6s, people would ignore the money light till the vehicle would not run right. The PCM can correct the coil firing timing quite a bit, but the rotor to distributor terminal timing would get so far off it would carbon arc the cap and misfire, backfire and no fire. DD (down and dirty) fix was to do some creative grinding on the dis hold down to bring the rotor and cap into better alignment. Needs OEM distributor and timing chain and gears to do it right

  • @joewild4424
    @joewild4424 Před rokem

    That was really good and you were very thorough I like it I have a 97 with the remanufactured block I'm not sure yet maybe it was a full re manufactured motor but I got to look into it I'm the second owner and it's in really nice shape I just want to get it running Tip Top thank you very much

  • @carmenjimenez8233
    @carmenjimenez8233 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for all you teach me.

  • @kirilchuk
    @kirilchuk Před 3 měsíci

    Hello Ivan thank you for taking time and showing step by step video , i have the same issue and i also did go through many ideas except where you had to mess with the distributor gear . So i think i need to start there again i might be of a tooth , my timing is advanced no matter what i do with distrebutor left or right will only give me code p300 multiple miss fire or a p1345 camshaft / crank correlation. This sucks .

  • @CARRJ142
    @CARRJ142 Před 2 lety

    A great video.

  • @tonymaiettasr.7340
    @tonymaiettasr.7340 Před 2 lety +11

    Good series. Hard to fix when the tool gives you the wrong data. Good thing you have multiple scanners

    • @bobb7792
      @bobb7792 Před 2 lety +1

      Ummm tool didn't give wrong info. He's still off no within parameters

  • @eloygutierrez09
    @eloygutierrez09 Před rokem

    Nice video 👍

  • @monomille1
    @monomille1 Před 2 lety +10

    Corollary to “every tool has a hammer side” is “every pointy tool is a drift” 😀

  • @mikechiodetti4482
    @mikechiodetti4482 Před 2 lety +4

    On some of the distributors, you could file down the stop edge and gain the extra 3 degrees which would zero out the cam/crank.
    You still have a worn timing chain. Rocking the crankshaft back and fourth you'll see more than 3 degree slack in the chain.

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 Před 2 lety

      just switch the retainer bracket out with one for an older distributor vehicle, which is what that truck already had done.
      sure the timing set on those wear down, but that gear was eaten up nearly 1/2 tooth at the crest of contact area, hard to catch on camera.
      **note: the aftermarket dists. tend to wear the thrust bearing washer and gear mating surface, which allows too much vertical shaft/gear movement which throws the timing off also :)

  • @johnwaby4321
    @johnwaby4321 Před 2 lety

    Very nicley sorted 👍👍👍👍👍.

  • @mrgrumpy5116
    @mrgrumpy5116 Před 2 lety

    well done

  • @fire7765
    @fire7765 Před 2 lety

    Good job

  • @PaulCTownsend
    @PaulCTownsend Před 2 lety

    Great info and interesting'

  • @williamwhite9767
    @williamwhite9767 Před 2 lety +1

    Ivan, you fix problems the owner didn't even know he had! Fantastic! No telling how long it had been that way.

  • @johnturner8829
    @johnturner8829 Před 2 lety +13

    I still have that same P1345 code on the 99 Suburban from when I did intake manifold gaskets.
    I did replace the distributor because the OE had decent wear marks on the teeth but ran fine.
    Maybe I'll put the OE back in and see if the code goes away or may have to do the same thing to the new one.
    Always good info Ivan. Thank You sir.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 2 lety +3

      Definitely need a scanner to read that data PID

    • @robertweir9034
      @robertweir9034 Před 2 lety +1

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics and maybe your thinkpad doesn’t

    • @tanman34fl
      @tanman34fl Před rokem

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics i wish i knew what the timing adv was when you finally got the retard set. I think you could use that setting to adjust it if you dont have a expensive scanner that reads retard. I adjusted mine through trial and error until the light went out.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před rokem

      @@tanman34fl You need a scanner to dial it in.

  • @Iloveyhwh_1974
    @Iloveyhwh_1974 Před rokem

    😂😂 I bet your eyes were as dry as the Sahara after setting that distributor! 😂😂😂😂😂😂. That cooling fan is a mutha. 😂 great video.

  • @claytoncoolidge992
    @claytoncoolidge992 Před 2 lety +3

    The rotor mount has a tendency of slipping. Its only a very light press fit. I've had a few do that to me. It even the slightest catch happened when the distributor was turning it will slip.

  • @roxanneabbott8424
    @roxanneabbott8424 Před 2 lety

    Awesome once again Ivan, loved it!!!

  • @madmike214
    @madmike214 Před 2 lety +8

    Ha! Man I haven't seen this issue in like 15 years!!! Bright back memories 😆 we used to get this all the time with distributor replacements...the original distributors would come in with stripped or broken ears for the caps so a new distributor was needed ..after getting the code we would remove the gear and install 180° and problem went away...never knew why and not sure how we figured it out but that was the fix lol good to see it wasn't just f.m. (f#*king magic) lol

  • @duanenelson3202
    @duanenelson3202 Před 2 lety +6

    I have had the same deal. Got it to 4 degrees the ML stayed off for a few miles, but return.
    Finally got it to 0 been no problem since.

  • @arthurfricchione8119
    @arthurfricchione8119 Před 2 lety +5

    Reminds me of my youth. Set the engine with cylinder #1 TDC point rotor to #1 firing position and install distributor. From there set the timing with the old timing light oh don’t forget to disconnect the vacuum advance and you would be set to go. No scan tools back then. Ivan thanks for sharing and stay safe and well Artie 👍

    • @robertweir9034
      @robertweir9034 Před 2 lety +2

      Notice he did not do these procedures. That would be the way to do it!!

    • @robertweir9034
      @robertweir9034 Před 2 lety +2

      Excellent suggestion and procedure.

    • @arthurfricchione8119
      @arthurfricchione8119 Před 2 lety +1

      They don’t do it because everyone relies on scan tools.

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před 2 lety +1

      Not likely he has a timing light in his tool box. Makes sense, rarely used in his experience.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 2 lety +1

      @@Garth2011 actually I do have a timing light in my kit and know how to use it 😂

  • @dans_Learning_Curve
    @dans_Learning_Curve Před 2 lety

    Liked
    Thanks for the video!

  • @danrose3233
    @danrose3233 Před rokem

    I have a 99 suburban 2500 with similar issues--primarily fowling of plug #5. Strange enough a separate issue caused a need to change head gaskets. The symptom seemed to clear up which might suggest the same root issue with the gasket. Now the issue has returned. Maybe it is a chronic issue with this gasket design(?). I appreciate the thorough diagnosis.

  • @alanmcclelland5245
    @alanmcclelland5245 Před 2 lety

    Made my weekend watching this repair. That must be one happy customer.

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv Před 2 lety +9

    Smashing job as always ivan :-D
    Scanners and there misleading data, you pay a lot for a computer with a fancy program.
    You don't expect the basic stuff to cause program problems.

  • @coolacadien
    @coolacadien Před rokem

    Wow you have some patience and I wish you could work on my 96 Chevy. I have 4 cylinders not firing up. I’ve replaced rotor and cap twice, plugs and wires, spider injectors. I have proper fuel pressure and spark at each cylinders. 😡

  • @weshawkins7165
    @weshawkins7165 Před 2 lety

    ThinkTool pro, ya buddy. Got to get one ordered.

  • @throttlebottle5906
    @throttlebottle5906 Před 2 lety +1

    the factory distributor hold-down was non adjustable other than a tiny amount on pretty much all those engines, so if it has the old style adjustable clamp someone has likely changed the distributor already or corrected for gear/chain/sprocket wear, which that year range is well known for chewing dist. gears off(all size engines), luckily the cam gear was always fine.
    It's common to get an adjustable hold down added then, as often the timing set wear, plus gear lash can be bad enough to need advanced a tooth then dist. retarded back so it physically clears everything.

  • @AP9311
    @AP9311 Před 2 lety +6

    Vortec don't really like aftermarket stuff, only oem stuff, i had that 1345 problem with crappy distributor, i bought oem , it went away. Weird or what lol. Great video ama happy labor day!

  • @donrosscojoe5014
    @donrosscojoe5014 Před 2 lety +1

    You have a lot more patience than me, I would have removed the bulb from the check engine light a long time ago, God bless you.

  • @shawntiaquino4714
    @shawntiaquino4714 Před 2 lety +2

    I have had the same problems when I worked for GM and the thing that got me all the time is that didn’t put the distributor back on the same pace my fix was just to put it on TDC and reset the distributor thank you the great video

  • @Rbenterprises4
    @Rbenterprises4 Před 2 lety +1

    I watched all 3 of these videos and they brought back many memories since I have had my 97 GMC K1500 5.7 for 20 years. I have changed virtually every part thar you did in these videos at one time or another. My latest saga began with a no start. After changing the cap and rotor, the engine started up and appeared to run fine. A couple of weeks later, a check engine light, code P0300, random misfire appeared. I changed the wires and plugs and cleared the code. A new code, P0304, #4 cylinder misfire immediately appeared. I rechecked fire out of the cap, and fire to the plug. When I pulled the plug to run a compression check, to my surprise, the brand new iridium spark plug outer wrap-around electrode was collapsed on the center tip, and the plug was wet with fuel. (I had a hard time starting the plugs in the dark the previous evening in the dark. I must have inadvertently pushed too hard on the socket, collapsing the electrode.) ( By the way, the compression was 170 psi.) The engine ran fine on all 8 cylinders and no codes returned. The only sad part about this repair was that the persistent random misfires fried the passenger side catalytic converter, as it sounded like a barrel full of rocks! Thanks for these detailed videos!

  • @scuba422123
    @scuba422123 Před 2 lety +1

    hey ivan have a good time off today.... the light wont come on for the fuel level sensor but the code sets....the light on for the 1345 it would as the pcm sees it....so messed up with the snap on they are good with gm i put a paint mark before pulling the bad boy out... the 4.3 had the one way hold down under torqued ?? warped intake?? why did that gasket drop?? strange

  • @danschevy
    @danschevy Před 2 lety +1

    I worked at chevy engine plant for 35 years all distributors were dropped into the engine with the cap on them. The little drilled dimple in the shaft was turned so it faced toward the front of the engine with number one cylinder at top dead center. drop the distributor in and the engine will be in time.

  • @jonnelson3705
    @jonnelson3705 Před 2 lety +1

    Engine at TDC #1 Cyl the rotor contact tip pointing at #1 hole. Turn oil pump slotted shaft or bump engine over until dis drops down fully.

  • @pantherplatform
    @pantherplatform Před 2 lety +10

    I use rock auto constantly to look up parts and variations or dimensions before calling the parts store an hour away.

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před 2 lety

      As long as you are careful and know how to validate what they have listed and pictures.

  • @mikejerrett7354
    @mikejerrett7354 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video, you were very thorough and fixed the problem 👍

  • @josecondemarin9586
    @josecondemarin9586 Před 2 lety

    Great skills sir, good series of videos. Love your channel. Stay safe and healthy thanks 😊

  • @kens97sto171
    @kens97sto171 Před 2 lety +2

    I think somewhere it said that the number had to be between 0 and 2. And even after you redid the gear it was showing 3 point something. That may be why the snap-on is still showing the code. But perhaps it's within some threshold to not throw the check engine light on the car even though the ECU has stored a code.

    • @spinb
      @spinb Před rokem

      I agree. The Snap On Verus is showing the code because the Cam Retard is STILL out of spec at 3+ degrees! The Thinktool failed at discovering this issue.

  • @norcal715
    @norcal715 Před 2 lety

    3rd! Thanks Ivan!

  • @user-ee1ki5lz5e
    @user-ee1ki5lz5e Před 2 lety

    Happy Rosh HaShanah

  • @mikesvirtualgarage9917

    Very interesting! Imagine if you didnt have that other scan tool, you'd be frustrated beyond all belief :D. Excellent diagnosis and dialogue as always.

  • @stephendee7839
    @stephendee7839 Před 2 lety +1

    That was generous only charging 30 mins for diagnosing and fixing the incorrect aftermarket distributor. Nice.

  • @HighTideTrio
    @HighTideTrio Před 2 lety

    At least Ivan got to fix something mechanical for once!

  • @OneLegged-honda-mechanic
    @OneLegged-honda-mechanic Před 2 lety +4

    I've had my Snap On Solus Ultra cause me to chase my tale with incorrect data pids on a 04 Civic. Glad I have my Autel, but it took me 30 minutes before i realized something ain't right.

  • @thememeboi9782
    @thememeboi9782 Před 2 lety +1

    Went down the rabbit hole with that distributor. You need to idle the engine up to around 1200 rpm, rotate the distributor, while watching the scan tool. It needs to be at 0. These Vortecs are extremely picky with timing. The flat spot on the distributor cap should be parallel to the back of the plenum, or very close. Lining the paint mark and the dimple is correct. This allows for the rotation of the gear when #1 is at TDC. It drops straight in. Good practice it to always bring #1 to TDC before removing the distributor. This does away with any discrepancies in the marks you make on the distributor.

  • @adotintheshark4848
    @adotintheshark4848 Před 2 lety +1

    About the fuel gauge, five will get you ten the problem is in the cluster. I used to work on a ton of these and the culprit is the main connector. It's corroded and has weak solder. Remove cluster, replace the connector (J1) and remove/replace solder on the other connectors. You'll be good to go.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 2 lety +3

      If the problem was just the cluster, then why would the PCM set a fuel level sensor code? 🧐

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Před 2 lety

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics good question. Anyway, I'd have removed and refurbed the cluster anyway just because (as long as customer agrees). They do give problems.

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 Před 2 lety

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics yep, it's the fuel sender in the tank. simply shaking the truck will make it contact and work again for an unknown amount of time.

  • @04DynaGlyde
    @04DynaGlyde Před 2 lety +2

    My 02 Silverado V6 popped up P0300 misfire code. Cap, rotor, wire plugs, MAS, all around a year old was replaced.
    2 weeks ago I replaced the coil and Ignition Module. Not to mention thr air filter still looks good and I even CLEANED the EGR valve on the manifold. And I replaced the fuel filter due to the lack of power. That somewhat helped with throttle response.
    My engine is very high mileage, yet, there's no smoke or engine noise. I've tried to hunt down air leaks.
    Could it be a crank sensor, or the spider injection. How can my problem be pin pointed down without braking the bank?
    Lord knows I can't afford to go to the stealership.
    I'm at 310k miles now, and was hoping to get to 350k or 375k before a new engine.
    My fellow Chevy Silverado brothers, Please HELP me because I'm broke and living on credit. As Cheech & Chongs once made a movie about, Things Are Tough All Over! Nor does the economy and high prices help that has hit us all in the year 2021.
    I sure would like to keep my old girl on the road, anybody got in useful tips or advice. Or know a straight forward honest, trustworthy, reasonable priced mechanic in the Arlington Texas area.
    I appreciated the pain staking effort on this video to solve the problem on that 98. I feel that's what I'm going through now. Unfortunately, I'm only a little bit of a shade tree mechanic WITHOUT a fancy scan tool. Who is somewhat mechanically inclined.
    I also noticed the T sign hanging sideways in the front of the garage, good for you.
    Happy Labor Day, thank God we live in a FREE country with hard working people. ❤ 🇺🇸🙏🇺🇸☝

  • @fernandomoran5979
    @fernandomoran5979 Před 2 lety

    Thanks

  • @tonymonastiere8510
    @tonymonastiere8510 Před 2 lety

    Yup, buy those chubbies...
    it's the pain that just keeps on giving!!!

  • @sohailrabani
    @sohailrabani Před 2 lety +1

    Finaly PHAD did it✌

  • @ericcorse
    @ericcorse Před 2 lety

    This one was a bit of a stinker well done.

  • @WeAreLegion1
    @WeAreLegion1 Před rokem

    It is a pain to put them back in because they rotate some going in. I just gave up the mark game and just put them in TDC now and start fresh it is more work but saves more time than hoping you get the mark right.

  • @geoepi321975
    @geoepi321975 Před 2 lety +1

    You can adjust it with a gas emissions analyser

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent... Tzastrovia comrade
    Curious if one could grind a small amount off distributor lock plate to get more rotation in order to compensate for extreme timing chain wear ?
    Old school type adjustment .
    I always put #1 at tdc compression and lock Motor on all engines to keep all in sync.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 2 lety +1

      Isuue wasn't with the lock plate, but clearance between cap and intake manifold :)

    • @robertweir9034
      @robertweir9034 Před 2 lety

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics where the hell did that come from. Grasping at straws now?

    • @MitzvosGolem1
      @MitzvosGolem1 Před 2 lety

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics oh ok. Excellent content Thanks.
      Should I get the Autel rather than the Snap On?

  • @IamDerick
    @IamDerick Před 2 lety

    Nice catch on the distributor gear. Cheers.

  • @josephneal4858
    @josephneal4858 Před 2 lety

    Snap-on tools even there scan tools are no better than the other top names!!!! You should really check out the Ancel X7 bro you wont be disappointed !!! You can even write VIN's with it man its a sleeper scan tool i bought it and wow its great!!!! sits in line next to the Autel!!!!

  • @neilmurphy845
    @neilmurphy845 Před 2 lety +1

    The first thing I would do would be to check the timing chain and replace that distributor with a GM part

  • @int53185
    @int53185 Před 2 lety +4

    Flying wallet wings on the distributor? Thanks for the Labor Day special!

  • @OzFrog48Z
    @OzFrog48Z Před 2 lety +1

    There are other possibilities for cam sensor timing issues. One could be a worn timing chain. The other is the shutter blade on the distributor that the rotor bolts to is pressed onto the distributor shaft. Sometimes over time it will slip and cause the cam timing to retard. With the distributor installed grab the rotor and try to turn it on the shaft. You have to pull pretty hard. If it moves, that's the problem.

  • @RideCamVids
    @RideCamVids Před 2 lety

    Fuel gauge needle swinging erractically at 17:12, possible stepper motor failure on that gauge.

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 Před 2 lety

      it's the sending unit inside the tank breaking contact between wiper/carbon trace/winding, which is also why it sets the ECM code. when it breaks contact the circuit goes open and voltage too high out of range. they're known for it, wiggle the truck and they'll suddenly start reading again for a short while.

  • @laredo1307
    @laredo1307 Před 2 lety

    This is the exact issue I'm having with my distributor after replacing with new. Right now my 96 is saying -20 but the truck runs smooth and I get now codes. I think I'm just off a tooth and need to adjust.

  • @Mr2004MCSS
    @Mr2004MCSS Před 2 lety +4

    When removing a distributor, I was always taught to mark the body of the distributor to the intake, mark the rotor to the dist. body and then as you pull the dist. out, you mark where the rotor turns to on the dist. body. Installation was the reverse. I've always followed the +2, -2 range for the cam retard. My 98 K1500 with this engine is still running the original distributor but the ears are cracked and will get a metal body dist. when it needs replaced. I have the same metal body dist. in my 98 K3500 with the 7.4L and it's been running that dist. for about 13 years. Luckily I have an older AutoXray 6000 scanner that can read the cam retard on these engines so that I can adjust if needed. The distributors on these engines are in the worst spot and are a pain to deal with.

  • @jurijsbolakins8928
    @jurijsbolakins8928 Před 2 lety

    👏👍

  • @chrisland169
    @chrisland169 Před 2 lety +2

    Hum i think this truck it's not done yet , 3 .38 degrees on thinktool and 4 degrees on snap on , it must be at zero because you have a little bit of slack on the timing chain so it will probably coming back! I done multiple of those truck (i own one 99yukon) and i use my favorite red brick snap on for accuracy, and when you go out of 2 degrees you play with fun !!

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 2 lety +1

      No worries it won't set a code for the next 100k miles 👌

    • @leoashrae4199
      @leoashrae4199 Před 2 lety

      The Brick is the perfect tool for this truck. Wish I had never traded mine in.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 2 lety

      @@leoashrae4199 I still have mine... Used it maybe 3 times before upgrading to the Modis then VERUS then Verus Pro 👌

  • @RonP0310
    @RonP0310 Před 2 lety +7

    In my experience the digun works great on older GM's

  • @everettpangle1861
    @everettpangle1861 Před rokem

    Yes I just had the very same problem mistery miss fire figure out it the intake gasket but my mechanic said to check for this start the engine then pull the oil cap off and if that has vacuum its a intake gasket

  • @geronimomadmartin3499

    I have a 1997 K3500, which Thinktool would work best on it? The reason I ask is that there are a couple of different ones with different code clearing capabilities.