TRAPPED in the RED RANKS in Tekken 8
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- čas přidán 21. 04. 2024
- The Tekken 8 Red Ranks have proven to be HELL for new players like me. But I wont let that stop me!
This is part 8 of my journey to play 100 ranked matches in Tekken 8 as a beginner. and see just how far I can climb. - Hry
Made it to mighty ruler 2 days ago. Here are the patterns I noticed from red players:
1. If you are far away from each other in neutral, they WILL do a running move to get in and get plus frames. Side step/walk when far away or when you see them start to dash forward and whiff punish.
2. Red ranks abuse power crush and heat burst like crazy. You need to be hitting them with your fastest lows and get them to start crouching asap. Then you start hitting them with your big mids. Also start grabbing them early because grabs will beat armor.
3. Abuse grabs in general. Hardly anyone can break them at this level. Just don’t use 1 break grabs because everyone is mashing 1. Start practicing grab breaks on your own time
4. Try to always be plus and take your frame advantage. It’s crazy how much people still mash at these ranks. You’ll be frame trapping people over and over and they will still mash.
5. Start offensively side-stepping if you know you are -4 or better
6. If they heat burst to get you off them, expect them to heat smash right away. Let them waste their heat.
7. Everyone at these ranks has a trick they abuse. Figure out their trick and they will crumble most likely.
Yes my friend told me this the other day
super good intel
you read me like a book omg
if on offense why would i side step?
@@momarenah969 if you’re -4 or better, you have enough room to side step and dodge some people’s moves. Usually just their jabs. If they do something with a bit of tracking you could get hit but that is why you sidestep into block. If you’re sure your opponent will mash something, you can sidestep, let them whiff, and then punish
Don’t worry about your rank so much, just work on getting yourself better. From the last chart we had your rank means you’re better than approximately 65% of the players that makes you good at the game, so at this point I recommend you just focus on small improvements on yourself and eventually you will continue to move up. Which leads me to my final thing have fun in the red ranks because once you get to blue rank people start to plug when they lose and it becomes less fun.
Not true at all, if youre garyu, 55% are better than u. Considering u cant derank in green and below, garyu are in the bottom 30% meaning 70% are higher rated. Whered u get 65%???
You're 100% right normally I would not stress my rank but it's just a fun goal for the video series. I'm really just looking forward to tournaments now
@@okok-ke1tkThey're from the actual Tekken 8 ranked statistics, you can check online and he's right. Garyu is already above the majority of players, I don't where you got your stats from in fact
@@okok-ke1tk lol you can’t be serious you have to be trolling!!! Do you not understand basic math. Even though people that are in the lower ranks don’t demote they’re still in those ranks!!! And if you want to be even more realistic you do realize that about half the people that purchased Tekken 8 didn’t even play competitively online because they are not good enough to play competitively and they’re playing it for fun. So with that information being a red rank would actually even put you higher. Don’t try to be a gatekeeper being in red rank is a good rank. As somebody that is Tekken king rank I have a very good understanding of how much skill somebody would have to be in red don’t downplay them (they earned it)
@@shaghilathar3588 some people are delusional and they like to get keep which makes me laugh, being that I am an extremely high rank and even I’m saying if some ones in Red rank there good.
Really enjoying this series Enjin and love how you're tackling tekken. keep it up and i hope you reach the rank you want dude! :)
Thank you bro that means a lot
I've played over 300 matches in Garyu. Still here.
Bro took me like 700+ matches to even get to that rank, but I feel you it takes a while to even get over the midway point of Garyu.
@@hollowedboi5937 Yeah, I once got to Shinryu tho, but it was really a while ago now.
@@SnowflakeSSQ which character did you use?
Trust me bro it took me 280 matches to reach garyu and i got to shinryu in game 680 .Now im game 1200 at battle ruler
How 🤯
I sympathize with you, beacuse i felt like i was this 2 weeks ago while being stuck on Tenryu, then i started to noticed during my repley, what i needed to work on and try to make some my own drill in my freetime, eventully last friday i got to Mighty ruler after 4 hours intense focusing, while drinking my tea. i just wannna tell you don't worry. as i really love your videos you are better than most garyu and shinryu players, since most of people in red ranks tend bad habit on using rage art. but yeah really looking forward to your next video ^_^
This journey is mad informative for even us Blue rank players (hardstuck Kishin) keep up the great work
really!? I'm glad even experienced players can learn from my mistakes
I was in the exact same boat as you bro. When I first reached garyu, I could not win any matches for the life of me and I kept getting demoted to orange and back to garyu repeatedly. But after rewatching my replays and watching helpful videos from PhiDx and other tekken pros I escaped red. Right now I feel like you’re still figuring out and adjusting to playing your character. And you’ll eventually find out how to win and excel.
keep your head up bro. I'm also a beginner and am a Jin player stuck in red ranks.... almost same journey as you fr lol. The problems you talk about in this vid are so relatable
my brother! glad to hear I'm not alone
im a beginner too! started as reina, switched to dragunov, now playinig jin only! i got to tenryu so far but i didnt really rank yet as jin (switched controller type and only labbed so far). joining the journey! :D
Good games and a good voice over! If the Red Rank Purgatory sometimes feels too bloody suffocating, remember the words of Miyamoto Musashi: "Anyone can give up. It's the easiest thing in the world to do, but to hold together when everyone else would understand if you fell apart that is true strength."
you NEED to experiment with f4, you can do so much with that! Pretty solid gameplay for being sub 100 matches with jin! I got a bit more experience with him than that and i'll gladly answer any questions you might have with the knowledge i got. Keep it up and youll get out of red ranks in a jiffy!
I also suffer from Acute Analysis Paralysis. It's inevitable, the mid-match overthinking. Meanwhile your opponent presses ALL the buttons. Things will improve as you become more comfortable with your character and the game mechanics, then you'll be on your way to a sweet, sweet flow state. Keep at it, good luck out there!
4:41 that's very true even in purple and blue ranks (they'd start mixing it up of they notice you blocking though)
80 matches already! I can hardly believe it.
You're right about keeping things simple: I've met Jin players in purple ranks who use very simple gameplans, but it takes a solid defence to counter it. Though, another important part is to keep your gameplan simple, but unpredictable as well. I think what happened with that Tenryu Law at the end is he downloaded your flow chart and punished you hard for it.
Here's hoping for Shinryu before game 100!
He got to garyu in 80 matches??
yeah he downloaded the FUCK outta me lol
YESIRRR
I’ve been where you are! I just recently got into the purple ranks. Just work on getting better and practice.
All players out there shouldn't feel bad about not being able to perfectly execute your gameplans right at the start. Practicing something in training mode or against ai is completely different to playing a human opponent either in person or in ranked. It takes me a while myself, but practice makes perfect as you gain a sense of comfortability and confidence in your play.
Great video as always btw! We need more channels like this that can make Tekken's overwhelming systems seem so approachable.
I got jin to flame ruler awhile back and got bored and changed to zafina which my zafina is currently at raijin . Having played jin against many characters that blow u up against a wall u urself have really good wall pressure and damage.
While in heat utilize ur b1+2 especially against a wall ! followed by ur df 3 kicks for sweeps .
db4 4 3 against walls aswell it picks up at the end even if the oppenent is layed against the wall at a lower position
B42 when u got them in a wall splat is a great way to reset the wall splat for added damage / pressure
Ff2 is super important when u expect a wake up when there down aswell as f3 to keep them from pushing up / being agressive
One last thing ur armor move needs to be used to stop pressure .
With these tips u will have enough to address many player's in red ranks to respect the punish damage especially on walls
Using ff2 is great for catching people on run ups and you can use 21 for frame traps and mix lows into it. Wave dash into 2 can prevent combos from hitting unless they’re ducking or use an unblockable attack. Also use f4 without holding for a counter hit and pushback. Def check out Devilster for a great example.
As a noobie king main, good to see throws working out for different characters
I have some tips as someone who's been playing since Tekken Tag 1 haha:
1- Defense is super important. Even when you don't know the matchup (bc seriously there's just too much characters and moves/ strings in the game), then just block. It's not always your turn to press and that's why you end up getting obliterated so quickly. A lot of opponents like to frame trap you (even when they don't even know they're doing it, they just see what moves work and clip their opponents in a row, thus they abuse it)
2- look at your opponent's character more than your own. This way you'll learn their flow charts and habits a bit easier and the animation of the moves they're using often. It's very important to try to try to memorise the animation of the moves. This way you'll know better how to defend against it later on in ranked.
3 - frames are so important. For too long in T7 I was too lazy to learn then. I finally did like literally a month before T8 came out and even though some frame data changed, I was still given a headstart. With frames come punishes, so know your main character's 10, 12, 13, 14, and 15 frame punishes. I'd usually just use the 10 and 15 (especially when I'm unsure about the opponent's moves on block). The 10 frame punish is safe and the 15 frame one you'd only obviously use when they whiff a launch or you block their attempt at a launch).
4 - Remember not to just be linear in the match. A lot of moves ppl throw at you can be sidestepped. Granted it's hard to know when you and which moves, but you'll learn the more you play and there are popular ones like the running 3/4 moves of most characters which is like a flying kick (or punch) than can be stepped. Many opponent (especially in low level) like to do this.
5 - Just have fun! Worrying about your rank can make you nervous wnd anxious during the match. It can also make you mad if you lose. Its important to have a clear mindset as mood can really affect the way you play (been through that, it was not fun haha). I notice that when I'm patient and trying to read the opponent instead of just throw flow charts at them, i play way better xx
I’d say to focus on your i10, 12, 13, 14, and 15+ punishes. Knowing when you are and they are plus, or who’s turn it is, helps to allow them to dig their own grave. Have those come as second nature with the recording and defense feature in practice mode. Continue blocking to see how your opponent responds, what patterns they make. And clean up combos in the middle of the arena and to the wall. Rest is practicing seeing strings from players you fight that often clip you.
And yeah haha the rage arts.
That mid knee to low heel step thing Lili does gets me all the time so for sure I’m gonna be practicing that as one of my warm ups before online matches. (It’s like -16 or something if you block the low so that could be an opportunity for a hella good damaging punish to capitalize on)
Jins i10 punish is the best upto i15 whee you should can can beacause jins 2,4 can get 70 damage off if you grab afterwords(no one breaks it)
doing really great! good way to solve this feeling of thinking too much is to take some time off or even pick a random character and figure out his moves between matches
I've been playing a little Leo and it's really helped me with Jin
I’m just ahead of you in the purple ranks, but the one thing I’d suggest to help, is to focus on creating space, back dashing when you can. This helped my patience, and allowed me to see what the opponents were doing, or trying to do. I found like 80% of my opponents at red would whiff to try close the distance! Hope that made sense and is helpful! 😂
That made sense dont worry lol thank u
the shirt and necklace fire btw
Hey there man love your vids you actually inspired me to start my own channel and play Tekken. If you don’t mind me asking do you get copyrighted for using music in your vids? And where do you get your music from? Great video love your content 👍🏽
Good luck w your channel! I'm not monetized yet so idk if im getting copyrighted but I only use Video game ost and thats usually okay
what served me really well in almost all ranks is doing a round start backdash or korean back dash because so MANY people mash on round start. and if they don't mash the game state is neutral instead of getting hit with round start BS.
7:32 Please remember you can't launch all blocked lows haha. The animation is very important in knowing when you can launch. The character will stutter in their posture a bit when you block a low that can be launched
I feel the struggle I’m kishin right now but I struggled when I was in red ranks lol
I think your problem is you are thinking too hard for these levels of players. Most of them just mash on their favorite sequences and don’t care what you’re doing . They don’t respect frame traps and most likely have horrible defense.
My advice to you as a new player as well and I was able to get to blue rank and I’m done lol
You need to work on your executions and make sure you not predictable mid games ….work on 2-3 moves and get really comfortable with those and here and there you let some random strings go as well …also I was stuck at red with Dragunov …I switch to Alisa and got to purple sometimes you might need to switch characters and get more learning experiences and come back to your main and for some reason you will get better at least in my case
I think you're 100 right. I'll try out your advice thank you
I have RTX 3050 laptop i just need good graphics settings to play the game rest leave the combo learning to me lol ? Any help would be appreciated.
Great content, keep it up
thank you !
For Jin's 50/50 out of wavedash, ff3,1 is much better than cd1 because it's a safe mid launcher and leaves you at +1, compared to cd1 being punishable.
The crouch dash counts as the first forward in ff3, so the input becomes cd into f3
,1 for the safer mid launcher.
I'll keep practicing that the ff3 is hard to input for me
what works for me is playing a couple quick matches before i hop on ranked. im a couple matches away from getting in to purple ranks
Hey this series has been pretty fun to watch! After your 100 matches it could be interesting to get a coaching session, I would love to play some friendly matches with you and give you some applications you could try! I have no socials I am trying to promote and I could remain anonymous, I just love that more people are loving Tekken!
I was actually considering coaching after the 100 matches! my discord is pixeldrink if you wanna add me we can talk more
Never give up I’m almost out of red
I’ve had matches like that where I feel like I’m thinking way too hard like they are about to do some advanced tech, meanwhile they are just doing entire strings , starting from mid screen even. Beat these players by punishing them or having a tight frame trap to jail them
I made it to shin with jin as a new tekken player under 60 matches and what i learned getting there is spacing and pacing
Wth how did you reach shiryu in 60 matches
@@burntpotato7116 idk I had streaks of 15 plus, honestly I get scared going to rank
@@OracleAzazel oh so you maybe play quick match because shinryu in 60 games as a new player is devious the talent in unbelievable
Jin is a great carry character in this game. They made him perfectly for beginners and veterans
@@burntpotato7116probably a lot of demon paw and df2
I’m the same bro I got Azu and Eddie in Red. Azu in Garyu and Eddie to Tenryu and I’m stuck hard!!
We can get through this brother
Learning a strong jab/low jab game was what got me through red ranks boys. Focus on your clinch game and punish everyone who’s only used to throwing out their big moves. Interrupt interrupt interrupt. We got this boys 👌
also gotta work on them electrics bro its a must for jin use the fking electric spam that shit into lazer cannon stagger the first hit into a throw just play mind games make the other player lose his damn mind from lazer canon stagger throw or b,f 2,3 into zen throw or 1+2 just gotta have more expeirence imo
Hwoarang on Shin here..red ranks is just the start of the difficulty in ranked matches. It just gets worse and worse
Go into zen stance after u hit electric to guarantee electric follow up. Noticed u dropped it cause u got nervous, this is an easy way to ensure u always get the combo regardless of ur nerves. Keep up the grind tho
Thanks for the tip
I believe in you lil bro
thank u 😭
2,1,4 mix up should be bread and butter for Jin.
exactly right, I'll use that in the next video
I could've left Reds ages ago but what's the point. All it does is make it take longer to get matches.
Ranked is so annoying to que now 😭
I need to hop on and play with you. I feel like I learn so much from you so quickly. (Can we please play together?(
I'll be streaming player matches soon!
5:44 this divekick DVJ does is launch punishable and if u can’t launch it u can just do any move that is like 16-15 frames it is not plus on block like jins is DO NOT let devil Jin mains get away with this
Whats the song at the end?
Innocent world from budokai tenkaichi 3
In tenryu, after 150 matches from garyu with king 😂
id say start working on them combos bro try to get a really good wall carry with jin imo hes always been the best at wall carrying and thats a must here some examples
Electric, electric , b3zen1 netural 1 heat into 1 into b31
also start utilizing ur cheese ur cha has alot of cheese like df 4 the big sweep also b3 into zen into 1+2 or 4,1 fzen into 1+2 also utilize ur lazer cannon literally the best stagger string in the game
13:10 he was ready to parry lol
bro was TOO locked in 😭
u guys need to learn frame data and how to use ur 10f punish to help get out of red ranks
What is the theme from 1:58 to 4:34?
"Forest at Night" from clash of ninja revolution 3
@@EnjinFGC thanks
Winning, losing, it's all part of the process. Just don't fall into the trap of feeling like you deserved to win, or that the other opponent only got lucky.
Don't be a brat.
Getting better at the game is one thing, but the thing that carries you over is a better attitude.
great advice, I feel like I've learned so much through this journey. can't wait to test my skills in a bracket
im hardstuck at this rank too lmfao. I beat people that are +2-3 my rank but then lose to someone thats below my rank. I dont get it
That's just the inconsistency in your game atm, iron it out and you'll win more.
I wouldnt mind doing a 1 v 1 as Jin mains
I'll stream player matches soon !
The issue is ego. Just keep improving and enjoying the ride. This fight game will be out for a decade
12:40 is hilarious again
Join the iron fist underground.
You are missing some punish opportunities
the worst thing i am the worst possible sittuation. I got fujin on bear cause i spam strong atacks and now if change character what never played before still this shit send me people from purple ranks with similiar tekken prowness points (about 150k). This shit is broken and work even on normal games, not ranked.
So you want easy wins? Play arcade.
@@wptd2689 its just bad designed system
Damn even quick match games? That’s sucks I loved the randomness
@@hands-ongaming7180 yes maybe i got bad luck but 80% players are mighty rulers or fujins
@@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV I have multiple red ranks and a mighty ruler kazuya with 155k, stop being lazy and learn how to play properly it's not that hard.
im in orange and i got plugged on da promotion 😔 smh
NOOOOO
Use that df 1 more
I’m at tekken god with Jin if you want we can box
I'll stream player matches soon!
Red ranks in SEA is like Blue in NA...
I'm starting to feel like Americans arent that good at tekken compared to the world
pls sidestep block round start
will do
Bro, i got my ass kicked by a lili ranked tenryu, i'm currently a flame ruler, my ego really needs mending LOL, this comment makes no sense, thanks for reading
Boi u gotta start using movement
yeah 💀
Take Eddie / Victor / Raina / DRAGUNOV and storm thought blue ranks to have a defense, u wont go pass that do, blue clean poeple 💀
When you feel like it, go back to Mishima, just dont try to learn defense with Mishima, it's 💀👎🏾
I'm actually gonna learn Drag after this so thank you