Hollow Knight's Grimm Troupe Lore Explained... Again
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
- In this video, we will be discussing the Grimm Troupe. I talked about them before back in 2017, but that video is so outdated I had to remake it. Hey, it works for Hollywood!
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00:00 Spoiler Warning
00:08 Introduction
00:55 The Nightmare Heart
04:04 The Corpse outside Hallownest
06:33 The Hidden Room in the Tent
09:07 Grimm and the Ritual
13:06 Members of the Troupe
15:06 Brumm
17:34 Divine and the Grimmsteeds
18:44 Conclusion - Hry
“I’ve read Judith Butler”
Anyone can do tha-
“Twice.”
*gasp*
le gasp
@@dwugtwee El Gaspe
Once would be enough to kill a man. Now twice, that is God-tier.
This had me dying of laughter for 5 minutes straight
@@quinntessentialskill7414 El Gaspito
maybe they like grimm because he’s tall and stick-like and also has a mouth.
Yo, you hacking or how do you write a comment before the video is out?
@@azurehaiku oh, excuse my stupidity
I like Grimm because he's tall and stick-like and also has a mouth.
could be onceler syndrome
Grimm's fandom could be worse, they could be creating alternate universe versions of him.
mossbag: “it’s not like they would have a map on a piece of paper or something”
Cornifer: *am I a joke to you?*
Isn't it kind of weird, cornifer sells maps for a 2d side view of the world?
@@Jake28 most bugs see in 2d
@@kidwhat6664 source?
@@Jake28 The fact that the knight coulden't tell that Millibelle's bank was a cardboard cutout until it smacks it with its nail a couple times.
@@sin-jay733 Oh my god
“He looks like a gen 7 starter”
He says, showing gen 8 starters
I know
Agreed
Grimm and Decidueye would probably make good friends, though
Ikr
Ikr lmao
Precept Forty-Eight: 'Be Careful With Fire'
Fire is a type of hot spirit that dances about recklessly. It can warm you and provide light, but it will also singe your shell if it gets too close.
Thank you Zote, please provide us with more of your wisdom
That is good wisdom
Yes
Spittin straight facts
Just like the Grimm fight,cool.
9:33 “looks like a Gen 7 Pokémon” *shows Gen 8 Pokémon*
Was looking for this comment
Yeah, noticed that too haha
couldn't tell the difference
he could've said worse.
he could've pointed out Grimm looks like a hazbin hotel character
@@Meriamfunlandagain The way I see it is *Hazbin Hotel characters look like Grimm*
“So Grimm uses the nightmare realm to find other kingdoms”
Ok now I think the nightmare realm is just the nether.
"achievement unlocked: subspace bubble"
The nether inhabited with some f*cking bugs
that checks out
alternatively it could literally just be like. dnd plane cause it does kinda sound like one also
Yep
@@cm5061 dnd cringe
I think another cool thing should be mentioned. When Grimm is Dream-Nailed after his battle in the tent, he says the following.
“Masterful! Even a *vessel* discarded bears fierce strength. Fine craft, dear Wyrm, and perfect tool to prolong the heart of Grimm.”
This means that Grimm is not only aware of the Pale King (this kinda makes sense since they’re both higher beings) but also of the Knight and its origins. So there’s a chance Grimm knows of the Radiance too.
calling the knight a "vessel" seems to show that Grimm knows what it's meant to contain. So yeah, he either knows of the Radiance itself or of the Infection (Maybe he only knows Hollownest is an ancient, abandoned kingdom because of his knowledge of the infection spread there)
Ya know, I was wondering, the Pale Kings whole thing was that he had future sight, right? It's like the ONLY god power the game blatantly states, besides something about how he bestows intellect to lesser being. But now, kinda ironically, he wants to create a vessel devoid of intellectual agency.
But, if he could literally see the future, we are suppose to buy the narrative that he chose the wrong vessel? The one he picks becomes corrupted, and the perfect candidate he just over looks and seals in a hole?
If he knows the future, maybe he knew, the only way to TRULY create a vessel that could stop the infection was to discard him. Make him claw his way out. Spend time wondering outside of hallownest gaining his "fierceness" or whatever the back story said.
Maybe the king saw ALL this, and he actually chose right. In the end, he did beat the radiance.
@@karenamyx2205 That could very well be correct. However, there have been a couple theories out there saying that really, any of the vessels could have worked, they just needed enough strength and combat prowless to succeed. The only reason why the hollow knight did not succeed was because the Pale King messed up and gave it a father-son bond. I also wonder if the same would have happened to every vessel he would have brought up, including the player.
@@kidwhat6664 Now I wanna play hollow knight but as pure vessel hollow knight easy mode
@@fort2558 That would be very interesting lol
The secret room is just grim's smoking room, change my mind.
Yeah and the seal prevents others from getting to his weed
So THAT'S why he he sounds so hoarse.
The device is a hookah
Who’s gonna change your mind
It’s just the truth
Grim: *inexplicable simp magnetism coughs*
I have never seen that secret room in my life, this game never ceases to surprise me
I don’t why but sues mom as your profile picture made me laugh really hard
I don't think I remember seeing the 5:33 location.
@@DeathKitta it's where you get the monarch wings
@@aajjjfw5755 wow I barely remember the game now xD
and the game is 3 years old now btw
Alright, my theory is that Divine isn't a "real" member of the troupe and just travels with them to sell her poop charms. Which is why she's in a separate tent to everyone else, and why she stays behind if the Nightmare King is defeated but you haven't bought all her charms yet. It would also explain why she only wears that half-mask. Because she's not there to further the cause of the Grimm Troupe, they don't care about fully controlling her.
I think she just stays if she still haven't eaten Leg Eater, so she's there just because she sensed the fragile charms smell
@@Roman-ik3cf What if Divine is somehow able to excrete nightmare essence after eating? Disgusting, but beneficial to the troupe nonetheless. Maybe she *needs* to eat living creatures to fulfill her role in the Grimm Troupe, so the reason she stays behind is because she hasn't done that yet.
Completely baseless theory, but it's the best I can think of.
@@spectrethefox5450maybe shes there to raise funds for the grimm troupe. those tents and pyrotechnics dont pay for themselves
Ccmaci said in his masks lore video that the masks connect all the members of the grimm troupe to the nightmare (which is why when Brumm stays (without his mask!) and you talk to him he barely remembers his time in the grimm troupe bc the mask connected him to that.) He then said that Divine isn't a real member of the troupe because of that half mask (only full masks do anything, hence if you collect two mask fragments it doesn't give you half a mask to get hit with) and she just followed them out of her own free will.
Hey, who wouldn't simp for grimm?
Me
Those 9 grimmkins
Same
Me
Nah I would just be a friend
Grimmchild BETTER call home after he moves away! He knows damn well that I raised him better than that
I’m dying XD
"And when the world needed him most- he said eh why not"
I see a lot of similarities between the Grimm Troupe and the Godseeker.
- nomadic group
- come to places like hallownest to harness sth.
- internal dream realm populated with distinctive mask wearing beings
- watch their higher beings battle (Pantheon/Circus)
It is definitely a really interesting contrast
I personally think that the “chart” in the secret room is actually a manequin thing, where they make masks. It would explain the abundance of masks in that room
Omg that makes sense
That's what I thought aswell.
I feel compelled to point out that the map of the US shown for “New Jersey” in fact highlights New Hampshire.
So true 😔
this only makes it better
No no no. You misunderstood the emphasis. NEW Jersey. Fuck Hampshire, embrace JERSEY.
I noticed that too. Was so happy New Jersey was mentioned; then realized that it was New Hampshire that was highlighted and got real disappointed
that is because new jersey does not exist.
Silksong is taking so long that we basically have the time to see the remastered verion of the lore videos
This is the darkest timeline
"If you're going through hell, keep going" -Dora the Explorer
@@Tubeytime W H A T
@@neotheshadowwarrior4082 don't question dora the explorer man it's facts lmfao
Grimm might actually be a spider since it's shown that he can do a four-legged walk similar to Hornet's during his attack where he launches those fire creatures -if the knight stays too close to him-
NKG has 6 legs in the skitter animation aswell
His eyes are similar to hornet too
So Grimm could technically do… a spider dance? *Undertale OST intensifies*
I was kinda sad when Grimm wasnt around anymore after the NKG fight. Makes me feel better to know i have a little version following me about who might be snapping his/her dapper fingers and dancing in the future
11:38 ARE WE JUST GONNA IGNORE THAT SCHMOVEMENT!
NKG parry challenge? where's cranky??
He blocked his attack... twice? Mad skills or mad luck?
@@Vulpilux At least with keyboard, in my case you parry the second hit automatically afther the first one, but just if you hold the attack button. I prefere not use long nail charms because makes me parry him from way further and ends with him over me when the dash animation ends. Even so, is not a really explitable move; I juts shadow dash through him
That my friend,s is what we call a true Parry
@@theinfectedvessel7877 The the the
"he looks like a gen 7 starter pokemon"
Never have I been offended by something that I absolutely agree with
Hes gen 8 though
@Kache Belka exactly what I was thinking of.
he showed gen 8 mon when he said it T-T
I just need to say I love both Grimm and The Child with all my heart and I will never banish the troupe on a casual run. I'll do it once for completionists sake, but any other time I'm completing the ritual. I'm actually doing a run where I obtain companion charms asap and never take them off, even if it overcharms me. I've never felt so attached to a fictional character before
I accidentally banished the troupe first time round out of curiosity, and at this point I’ve gotten so used to having Carefree Melody that I don’t know what I’ll do in a run without it.
Still mourn for Grimmchild though, thought they’d stay with me :(
I kinda also never want to banish them but I need Nymm to be free and play music in dirtmouth, guess I have to stick to the weaverlings
I banished the troupe cus I had a hard enough time beating Grimm, I didn't want to have to beat Nightmare King to finish the side quest
@@kimballbelliston5925 Same
Doesn't sound healthy tbh. lol No offense.
In grimm's stagger state he turns into a bat and when he is found sleeping upside down hanging from the ceiling. He is definitely supposed to be a bat.
I think the underworld is a nicer place than tumblr
Same
Nieve fool, where do you think tumblr came from
Twitter is hell for Tumblr
Been on tumblr for 6 years, can confirm
hi mew
“Why does the world of Hollow Knight vaguely look like a cock and balls?”
-mossbag 2020
@Krabby boi no.
@Krabby boi aight. Carry on
@@arandomkobold8403 what did krabby bio say
@@yeetmcyeetalot5979 I forgot
Timestamp?
mossbag: He looks like a Gen 7 starter Pokémon.
Also mossbag: *shows Gen 8 starters*
I've always liked Grimm as a character and a fight. Ho boy, that second fight...
Also, I've always thought that Grimm just IS the nightmare heart, being called the nightmare king and all
9:40 In my headcanon grimm is just a really edgy butterfly
yes
hes actually a bat
Yes
@Colin Powell i don't see it
@Colin Powell what do you mean. Search up a vampire moth. Hes not a moth.
"Like most things in Hollow Knight, it all comes back to vore."
Please never change, mossbag.
Yeah, just like his channel is all about lore...
Hard lore.
Yes never change mossbag
@@26yd1 I think you mean hard core lore
@@26yd1 *vore
@@computer_dude
no shut no
Has no one ever thought that Zote, pronounced Zo-te, could be a reference to Don Quixote( I have seen many different ways of writing the characters' name) , with the whole knight of great renown thing?
Same thought! With the whole deluded grandeur where he's actually kinda useless
Yes, it is very likely.
All he's missing is a dumb gullible sidekick and a sickly, clumsy steed.
Who?
@@fiona1109 to be fair that guy can survive anything in the collpsuem of fools you only immobilize
Forget Silksong, Zote needs his own 57-part series
you mean Zoteboat?
Higher beings, these words are for you alone:
THE MOSS GOD IS BACK
@Aarav Valaparla what do you mean?
@Aarav Valaparla I get it now lol
Wait I can read this.
Am I a higher being 🥺
YES
@@trickytreyperfected1482 ...
no
Mossbag just saved me from my Silksong depression
It will come back, just you wait.
You are never safe.
It will come eventually right?
right?
It seems it will take a while before we can git gud
the longer the wait, the better the game will be... Except cyberpunk's case
You just gave me silksong depression why did you have to mention it
If divine can strengthen charms, then it would make sense to have here because the grimmchild is a charm.
9:40 I actually think he's a batwing butterfly, specifically a red-bodied swallowtail. (It looks a lot more like him). The vampire connection might be that bug pinners find them harder to kill without ruining their wings than other butterflies. Pinching their thorax, which kills most butterflies, just stuns them. Their caterpillars also eat a plant called birthwort, that looks a lot like the Nightmare heart.
his wings look very different to a batwing butterfly, although I see the similarity
Ok but why didn’t you mention the inauguration of Andrew Jackson how is this even a grimm troupe lore video without it
Damn, I knew I forgot something...
Bruh
meow
How was this made 11 hours ago-
@@billcipher621 He most likely uploaded it as unlisted or something
how many times are you going to use that footage of the dead nailsmith
I think untill silksong realised
@@ordsanafiry8878 you mean never
You monster, you killed Sheo the badass's wife!
Spouse
Definitely sensing a bit of homophobe energy from Zenon
I somewhat disagree with your reasoning behind why Brumm rebelled. His dialogue makes it seem like he believe Grimm is also trapped in the endless cycle, and it is his desire to free his master.
Eh
Grimm is a creation and an extension of nkg
I doubt he would ever defy nightmare heart
Grimm is absolutelty one of my favorite characters of all time! He looks hot literally, Best boss fight ever, Perfect OST, looks cool, and the Lore and story
Actually I always thought Grimm was a Vampire Butterfly, better known as a "Blood Butterfly". It's a lesser known Butterfly Species that's red and black in color, newer species so we don't know much about them yet. But seeing his color palate and bat motif, I think he's actually a Butterfly. Plus the Vampire Butterfly can be found in hot climates, so seeing how FIRE is associated with the Grimm Troup kinda furthers my assumption. Just my two bits on the "he's a moth" theory, which is a good idea, but I just don't see it.
I think you mean the Batwing Butterfly (Atrophaneura semperi), or similarly, some type of red-bodied swallowtail butterfly
@@LolliSweet82 I don't remember the scientific name, just that it's called the Blood Butterfly, Vampire Butterfly or Corpse Butterfly, all variations are small and red.... so it might be, appreciations for helping. :D
Maybe he's a mixture / ... of several beings. After all he's just a vessel, basically, as far as I know. That'd explain his pufferfish attack e.g., it resembles the vampire squid (not my original thought).
@@cupcaketv5673 Could be, certainly is an interesting thought at least, and he is linked to the Nightmare Plane, which would certainly effect things I'd imagine.
Its an interesting theory but I'm not sure if team cherry would know about this specific bug.
5:38 I heard "Can of Wyrms" God help me
Aaa yes "THE GOD BUCKET"
It's probably because he DOES indeed say Can of Wyrms
That's a VERY powerful bowl of soup
I think grimm is a bat, which would make sense as he's kinda the yin to the radiances yang, and bats eat moths
Well, in that chase we would maybe see an awsome battle between them.
And yes, i would be on the bats side. I love bats
Aaaaand, if I was a insect, one giant fire bat would be my nightmare for sure
I think the Lord Of Shades/Us is the yin.
@@InnovativeSparks he is more like the lack of all, the void is a whole concept of non existence and wants to erase all, but it have no mind to guid it's raw power so it stays there like a big lake
He's a mix of a moth and a bat
I'd be curious to hear more about the relationship between Jiji and other higher beings ... including Jinn
"how does wind blow towards one specific spot?"
an updraft
The items you get from P.K. which are the monarch wings and the king’s brand blow wind from them. But probably the lanterns cause that, the updraft.
One of my theories about Grimm is that when he does his stagger, each of the grimm children that we see represent a kingdom that the troupe has both visited and had a completed ritual. Since you can choose to banish the troupe and end the ritual early in the game, there might be other kingdoms where the ritual wasn't completed
Ooh that's cool!
And seems logical
They are the other Grimm children that matured
And some kingdoms didn't complete the ritual, so they never got a new Grimmchild and Grimm became older (and maybe weaker?)
Love this theory!!!
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There's a problem here. The ritual is ended because the knight is not controlled by the nightmare heart and is free to decide for itself despite the lack of a mind and brumm seeing hallownest and deciding it should "be allowed to rest" and rebeling. He also says he will only make the exception just this once. Unless members rebel alot I don't see that being the case. However the grimmchild group in the stagger could be other grimmchildren that did complete the ritual as the red eyes only apply to the grimmchild when it has the nightmare heart and only one grimmchild, who can be hit and so is most likely grimm, has those red eyes in the stagger
@@robert.7230 it could just be that the person who they tasked with raising the grimmchild failed their mission with the grimm troupe, by dying for example
My first reaction to the Grimm troupes three talking members:
Grimm: He’s cool -visibly gets distracted by Grimm’s dance whilst fighting-
Divine: did you just eat your lover anyway I like you
Brumm: oh god if I leave will he get lonely I DON’T WANT HIM TO BE LONELY * Proceeds to stay by Brumm’s side for two hours *
Lol same
the ghost heckin slapped grimm in the kneecaps while bowing, how disrespectful
WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT GEO
Why is it money and also food
(Cornifer says that his wife told him all their food is made of geo and that’s why they need it)
@@funny250wall If that's true, I'm surprised Sly isn't the fattest character.
So was the banker just starving?
@Zac Attack happly yes
@@antediluvial well then its harsh to cut out all of shes geo just because he had to resort to scams to survive.
having had problems with them where i used to live, i'd like to think Grimm is a spotted lanternfly because it'd be a neat pun and also they're dramatic ass little bugs that are also an invasive species not native to the realm- uh i mean Pennsylvania
What pun?
@@RedFloyd469 _lantern_ fly
@@RedFloyd469 Sometimes I wonder why we need laugh tracks on comedy shows, then I see a comment likes yours.
I wonder... did the Nightmare Heart was able to see into the Knight true form? I mean as a Void being, cause if it can subjugate bugs will to it bindings, why didnt he do it to the Knight?
Here is what I think, every member we see in the audience was actually someone who had done the ritual before hand, but never had the troupe being able to fully finish the ritual last dance, so they all get trapped in the nightmare, but when Grimm saw the Knight, he saw the golden opportunity, a being of Void, able to exist in both reality and dream and influence both, and someone able to complete the last dance, the troupe didnt disappear because the cycle repeated again, but rather, because it finally got completed, Grimm Child is no longer bound to the nightmare relm, but through the Knight, became a real being, HE is the troupe now, it is now all in him, in complete physical vessel created thanks to the ritual with the unknowing help of Void
LOVE the scene at 19:18 - 19:26 . Considering that The Knight & The White lady are Son & Mother technically. When One dose that “Equip all Badges” Hack which includes the various Partners that can assist the Knight. It makes it look like a Small Family gathering with the Knight introducing his “Mother” to all Her new “Grandkids” that he adopted. C:
"Like most things in hollow knight, it all comes down to vore"
Well spoken
8:30 Rain and thunder don't necessarily indicate the surface. For example, there was a NASA building that was so large it started to have its own weather conditions inside.
W-wait..... WHAT!?
@@dustygamer6304 It's called the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB). It's in Florida and it's 160m tall (525ft) as well as taking up an area of 8 acres.
@@Jibbert but did it rain or what?
@@tickaten Supposedly on humid days the VAB can have rain clouds form within the building, at least according to what I've read.
@@NobleLeader6 holy fuck
I has Theory about pure vessel and oh sweet radiance it’s a gud one: see, the pure vessel fight is the dream of the hollow knight when the radiance tried to take him. Cos at the end of the fight, the light of the radiance appears. So the godseekers can access lingering memories in the dream realm, then they use these memories to attune to gods linked to the memory. Simple.
I've gotten into Hollow Knight recently and when I saw Grimm I just can't help but think of Stolas from Helluva Boss.
I know Vivzie's art style is inspired by Hollow Knight and Invader Zim. Among other things I bet.
But I can't help it.
Same eyes, same head shape, wears a cloke and has demonic powers.
I wonder if others experience this but vice versa.
I thought I was the only one!
Same!
@kasetrey3156 yes. But did Stolas exist before or after Hollow Knight.
I've been following her since her Timber(her school project animation) video.
Also, you can still take inspiration from other artists even when you already have a established art style.
It's about improving it and applying things you really liked from them.
Or just plain fan art.
Vivis art style while the same since her first video, it definitely improved in quality that it honestly looks like two different styles when you compare her oldest video to her newest.
Where did you find it's inspired by hollow knight
@@Padre_des_los_penitentes i remember watching a video documentary esc of her showing off her old sketch book and explaining her inspirations and such.
I don't have the best memory but I'm pretty sure Hollow Knight was brought up in discussion
Grimm has a lot of really cool fan art that you should look up on the internet without safe search on.
Tiso and the God Tamer also have some great fan art you should look up with safe search turned off.
Oh no
@@themaincharacter4985 OH YES!!!!
@@alfalldoot6715 hi there.
r u n
HK community: I thought you were dead
mossbag: My death was greatly exaggerated
Mossbag is so popular that even the people from Hong Kong loves him! :P
@@Mewseeker south Africa too
SOMEONE GET THIS MAN TO 69 LIKES!
mossbag, not Mossbag
Since Divine specializes in charms, (well she doesnt really specialize in them she just kind of shits them out), maybe her role is to convert the grimmchild into charm form for the convenience of whoever is helping them. Idk why shes left behind when the ritual is completed though.
Maybe she's the one waiting for the Grimmchild to grow completely and take over the nighttime troupe so they can continue the cycle again and again
Like you said she's technically "specialized" in charmd
Does that mean she eats the Grimmchild and shits it out as a charm
Shes left behind so that you dont find out too late that you screwed yourself out of getting the unbreakable strength charm. I mean, maybe they came up with a lore reason to hold it together, but that's 100% a gameplay concession.
Maybe a vid about steel soul mode, with its changes and new npc (Jinn) could be next
And also I heard once that Grimm is supposed to be a moth because of his dream/nightmare connection, but also a bat because what scary night animal both connects to vampires and eats bugs? Bats. And the Grimm Troupe uses fire themes a lot because of the phrase “a moth to a flame”... that’s it for me.
Disney consumes other companies and easily creates forgotten fandoms... DISNEY IS NIGHTMARE CONFIRMED?!?!
capitalism 🙄✋
What’s funny is the liberals who rail against capitalism suck Disney off at every opportunity. :)
my favourit bossfights are troupe master mickey and nightmare king mickey
@@williamhenning4700 ah yes, famous liberals like Joe Biden are famous for detesting capitalism
@@lexi-hx6je Biden's mostly a moderate democrat. A dying breed these days. Most leftists voted Biden simply because he wasn't Trump ( that's about the extent of their tolerance ).
When you play this don’t let Devine eat me please
I've got some bad news for you, buddy...
too late
bit too late there buddy
Hope you had fun
Hmm...
Does this make them the leg eater eater?
2:19 I don't remember all of the Greek underworld being that horrible...
It would be interesting that team cherry would make comic about the grima troupe travells, and how this bug reached to end in Hallownest.
"It all comes back to
V O R E"
No wonder Willoh's voice was in the beginning of this video. 🤔
@Chonghan L just a side effect 👌
@Chonghan Liu Vore is also eating of something to gain it's strength, so no it is vore.
15:57 "My first girlfriend turn into the moon"
That’s rough buddy.
Sorry sokka my dude
It would have been cool if zote began being controlled by a mask and you had to fight him and if you manage to beat him he would then become friendly and actually enjoyable to talk to
8:09 he finally said it 😂😂😂
8:04
“New Jersey?”
*shows New Hampshire*
Old jersey
I've always thought is was weird that the ritual with the Grimm troupe has no real downsides. I mean sure, Grimm could kill you, but anyone who's a decent fighter can beat him. And once you're done, you have an angry murder child who fights for you. It just seems odd that a higher being such as the nightmare heart, which binds it's members to it and has one of them basically kill himself, doesn't take more from the bugs that participate in the ritual
Good point; I figure the knight, being a void creature, doesn't have much to take. It has no soul, no dreams, no nightmares, and seems resistant to the control of higher beings, so idk what use the heart would have for it beyond completing another cycle.
the nightmare heart wants the flame from the dead kingdom, there isn't really anything it would take from the knight, even if there was it would be a bad idea for the heart to handicap some one bound to the grimmchild (the heart's vessel). Plus if void creatures can contain and kill the radiance they might be able to do the same to the nightmare heart if they tried so it might no be a good idea for it to pick a fight
all the ritual takes is the energy of a dead or dying kingdom, that seems more like recycling than evil doing to me, and why does grimm even kill you? He's probably not going full strenght in his fights but still seems ok with the potential killing the centerpiece of the nightmare ritual wich seems stupid
@@An_Entire_Lime he says the passion of the fight is what fuels the grimmchild to mature, if he went too easy on you it probably wouldn't work, so he either goes easy and certainly fails or goes hard and maybe kills you but maybe succeeds
@@enzldavaractl8345 Grimm needs to find a better "not dying of age" system and quick
19:10 The Grimmchild looks like they have a really happy face plastered on their head
TRUE
I always choose the Brumm / Nymm ending. I just prefer it. But man I love Divine and Grimm. So I take my time doing the ending
I have two exempted finals today and this is just what I needed to see in my recommended
Good luck
“How tough are ya?”
“I read Judith Butler”
“So?”
“Twice”
“R-right this way, sir!”
It's from Spongebob will;
"How tough are ya?"
"I had a bowl of nails for brekfast"
"So?"
"With out any milk."
"R-right this way sir"
@William King She's a postmodern feminist, and as a result her work is quite dense.
@@durnsidh6483 I don’t think I’ll ever finish her philosophical writing.
@@mishaf19 Fair
@William King
She was during the alt-rlght era, so no more for a couple years, I feel like mossbag is either discovering this lore or starting to assume using it in an ironic fashion. The hollow knight community seems to be quite a dominance of "woke nerds", that means we understand and appreciate the form of this post-alt-rlght internet culture, it talks to us at the "autism" level, and shyly we start to feel we have a right to return and reuse this humor even if more orthodox extrovert Twitter or RL left won't really understand it.
Also the influences of global postmodernity of these absurd times, the rebirth of the qveer leftism on the internet by the Trump era, some feelings of existential nihilism and postmodern humor... all that stuff had a lot of young insecure right-wingish manosphere guys and eggs of 2015 find out they were depressed closeted qveers themselves, notably trans women, some gay, bi, sub and/or femmy guys; so this form of humor became pretty much of a cultural identity in broader gaming or anime subcultures, probably more than anywhere in metroidvania's fandoms and speedrunning communities.
Hey mossbag! Thanks for all your videos, you’ve really helped me learn more about the complicated lore of Hollow Knight and helped me appreciate this beautiful game even more! I’ve noticed that you don’t have any videos about charms and was wondering if there was lore about why charms are a thing and if so you should make another vid about that!
I actually belive that the Grim Troupe is inspired by the 1950ish novel 'Somthing wicked this way comes.' I'm which there is a traveling Carnival similar to the Troupe, and better yet... the leader, named Mr Dark, feeds off of the fears and nightmares of the towns they travel to. So I thought that was a little interesting.
"Now of course, an art file name is by no means canon"
You know EXACTLY what you're doing here lol
*cough* quirrel_death_nail.png
@@reallypinkscug *i refuse to believe*
@@reallypinkscug he fucking drowned himself
@@yell245 I don't remember the name of the species of bug that quirrel is but it has the ability to breathe underwater. Quirrel cannot drown. Of course hollow knight doesn't exactly follow normal bug logic but it's an explanation as to how he isn't dead
@@robert.7230 people say he looks like a pill bug (I agree) and those are a subspecies (? of isopods... or part of the evolutionary family. Terrestrial isopods, like pill bugs, do possess gills through which they're able to breathe. But despite the fact that these gills must remain humid for the bug to live, they don't allow for the bug to survive underwater. So.... sad fact. Although I did hear that they *could* be able to live for a short while before drowning, but I'm no entomologist lol and that would mean Quirrel has been holding his breath and chilling at the bottom of the lake for a long while now. What a champ
new mossbag videos are starting to get more rare than silksong news
Naw, Silksong's rarer.....
@@bowserjjumetroid3645 bruh imagine if silksong was like, a real game
that would be sick
@@nowonatall XD Yeah, I feel ya....
6:12
*Nightmare Essence Theory*
A theory of mine is that well-according to this hint here of some sort provided by NKG, I’m thinking that the line ‘Nightmare Binds all’ means that there is Nightmare essence everywhere. Lighting the Nightmare lantern possibly causes the essence to show itself, and allow the Grimm Troupe to harvest it for the Nightmare’s Heart.
I don’t have much evidence from this one line and my theory isn’t a solid claim, but I just wanted to share what I have so far :D
Thank you for reading up to this point ^^
i love your intro where it just says mossbag with a random noise from hollow knight its my favorite intro of all time and i can tell you put a lot of effort into it. thanks mossbag
Grimm can’t be the nightmare king without pumping some iron.
The idea of the Grimmkin using their masks as conduits actually does make sense, as all the warrior dreams have something physically existent that tie their ghosts- that don't know they're dead- to the real world
Markoth has his body and Dreamshield,
No Eyes, Gorb, and Marmu have stone statues in honor of them,
Galien has his old weapon,
Elder Hu has an altar and necklace,
Xero has a grave.
Since all those bosses were once alive, and relatively powerful, they are able to interact with the physical world but require something to project from, right? So maybe the Grimmkin ghost things were never really alive to begin with, and are just Nightmare constructs that lack anything physical to anchor them, so they use the masks as their mediums.
I'm just as much excited for your videos about silksong, as the game itself
*Wait a second,* there are RED BEADS on that chart thingy, and if my memory of the SilkSong Trailers is true, Pharloom has plenty of Red Beads, and some of the Architecture seems to look like the Architecture seen in some of the shots of some trailers (EDIT: yep, looking back at the Silksong trailer, there's lots of those metal wires, most prominently seen in Hornet's Cage, and during the Lace fight with all the Petals. And in the Demo Gameplay, the beads are strung from the ceiling in the Deep Docks.)
There is also a SEAL on the chart, and in the Silksong Demo, there was a purple seal on the Bell, if im remembering correctly (EDIT: also true, located towards the end of the trailer, just before the second clip of Lace fighting before the Title appears, the bell is show ringing with a purple seal on it.)
So, perhaps the Chart has something to do with Silksong?
What I find more interesting, is that the seal is red, that and the fact that it is located in the Grimm Troupes tent, ties it to Grimm and the Nightmare Heart, and the seals in the White Palace/Path of Pain are White, possibly related to the Pale King, so these Seals are:
- closely related to Higher beings
- have color related to the Higher Being they represent.
So now we get to the Seal on the Bell, it is purple, so, we can assume based on this, that there is likely a Higher Being in Pharloom, closely related to the Color Purple, so who could that be?
Well... Look at my Profile Picture, what color is it?
THATS RIGHT, IT IS I, ANGSTY GAY DUDE, RULER OF PHARLOOM!
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😐🍃🍃😐🍃😐🍃😐😐 why
9:32
"He looks like a Gen 7 Starter pokemon"
*gen 8 intensifies*
**screams in cinderace**
“New Jersey?”
*shows map with highlighted New Hampshire*
I knew there was a reason I subscribed to this channel.
Whats wrong with Jersey
Astonishing... Other people know of new Jersey....
As someone from New Jersey, yes.
Couldn't tell the difference
@@benjaminfricke4791 I am from there too, bergen county
2:35 as someone who was once studying to be a theoretical physicist specializing in cosmology, that hurt. "Once studying" because I quit after 6 years of struggling. That was more brutal than attempting Pantheon on Hallownest of Steel Soul.
The beginning of the game is in King's Pass, but if you take a specific route in the Howling Cliffs, if you jump down, you go to the same place as you start the game. If you go to the top of the Howling Cliffs and try to crystal heart through to escape Hallownest, the WINDS blow you away so you can't escape. It blows to DIRTMOUTH, where the Grimm Troupe arrives, and it leads to HALLOWNEST, just like how they say the wind led them to Hallownest.
tumblr: is called the underworld
twitter: "am i a joke to you?"
i mean tumblr has some WILD corners
a girl cut off her two and gave it two a stranger on tumblr
*toe
Twitter is more like purgatory. But Tumblr... boy, that's hell alright.
Both are as bad as each other
Theory: the bats in the grim fight are all the past grimchildren/vessels for the nightmare heart and represent every ritual completed
If there is evidence pointing away from this can you point it out in the comments
I counted the bats and, assuming I didn't miss anything, there are 16 of them. The same number as orbs in that chart thing. So if the theory that those are the places the Troupe visited before is true, then yours might be plausible
I N T E R E S T I N G
I think their just potential grim childs. I think grim dies in in the ritual
@@Lizzymun werent there 19 doe?
If the bats are vessels,then isn’t Grimm killing the nightmare heart?
12:03 "We Dream Nailed into Grimm... Killed the Nightmare Grimm inside it"
Not me though, I sure as hell can't do it lol
16:20
That's a profound statement on the nature of anonymity in online spaces, as well as real life. You gain protection from being directly targeted, but you also lose the softer edge of your personality. Social media doesn't actually bring out the worst in people, it just dampens their perception of the harm they may cause.
The really interesting part is how masks that are worn long enough stop being masks. My user name has a history and a reputation, even if I'm the only one who can see it. I've transferred my belief in reputation to my user name, so my online behavior won't devolve into carelessness and disregard, despite my anonymity.
Maybe the model in the Grimm Troupe Tent might actually reveal the release date of SilkSong?!?!?! 😳
No.
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No.
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No.
Can't wait for Wind Lore
Also I just noticed: the eyes on the Troupe's tents look like they have Void leaking out of them.
Or it could be another liquid.
That's not void. That's just stylistic. Not every single pixel is a clue. There are also no other signs or text based clues etc. that suggest that the Grimm Troupe is connected to void.
@@Vulpilux What about the fact that, according to his Dream Nail dialogue after the first fight, Grimm knows of the Pale King and the Vessels? Not to mention that the Void is the archnemesis of the Radiance, who probably had a large influence on the Dream Realm the Nightmare Heart was once bound to. I don't think the liquid in the tents is necessarily Void, but I think it's safe to say Grimm and the Heart are at least aware of its existence.
@@Dinoman972, of course, as a higher being Grimm aka the nightmare heart would know that void and other higher beings like the pale king etc. exist.
I don't know however how Grimm knows of the vessels. Maybe he just knows because he's a higher being and keeps tabs on kingdoms that may fall to ruin. But I don't think Grimm is an ally to the void or something.
Did you know: While the Knight is able to have light shine off of them, Grimm is not. You can see this in the official Grimm Troupe artwork. Does this make Grimm... Super Void???????.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.????????.?..?.???..
Grimm seems to be made of the same big he gives you so he might be revived every time the ritual happens
I really love the memes and jokes and references jou put in the video! Made me laugh multiple times. Keep up the good work :D
Mossbag seems like he’s the weird kid who’s actually really fun to hang out with when you get to know him
Why does he sound like he's been smoking that pack for 20 years is the real question
Why do you think we need to light up a flame to summon him :zote:
Implying that he hasn’t
Don't need to spend money on a light
@William King That makes sense
congrats on 200k! i used to watch your videos awhile ago and have started rewatching as i picked up hollow knight again to play godhome
Found this video via the script on your website. Thanks for the summary of nightmare vs dream lore.