Unraveling the Lore of Mister Mushroom
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- Today, we dig a bit deeper than usual into one particular Hollow Knight character, whose very existence forces us to grapple with some hard truths. Hopefully we can gleam a spark of knowledge from this chasm of insanity.
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Video Chapters
0:00 Spoiler Warning
0:10 Introduction
0:45 Who is Mister Mushroom
2:55 Conversation 1 Interpretation
5:07 Conversation 3 Interpretation
6:10 Dead End
6:35 Ari's Previous Games
7:26 William's Previous Games
8:51 Back to the drawing board
10:10 Suddenly Castlevania Lore
12:52 Other Inspirations for Hollow Knight
15:02 Future Team Cherry games
16:15 Outro - Hry
Oh mis god are you stupid, none of this make any fucking sense
ok
lul
Potato
That's only because you haven't played M.Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender for the Nintendo Wii!
This is a true hate comment?
The real question is though, "Is Mister.Mushroom void?"
1:51 You see those pupils? They're black. You know what else is black? VOID! MR MUSHROOM IS VOID 100% CONFIRMED
He is 112% void cuz he is mysterious and has black eyes.
@@dylan_Coat take a closer look, and you will find that his eyes spiral, just like the maskmaker's. You know what else is black and spirals? Black holes, which are VOIDS MADE OF MATTER. Therefore we can assume that the BLACK EGGS are actually aged, fertilized BLACK HOLES, because they give birth to MATTER (and even beings) MADE OF VOID!
NORMAL COAT but that means, *GASP* your implying *_H O R N E T I S V O I D._*
NORMAL COAT nah Miss Termushroom is actually just full of hope
Remember precept fifty: Don't linger on mysteries. This mushroom is a purveyor of lies and deceit trying to keep you from your true goals. A single blow from Life Ender™ would surely put a stop to this, should it encounter me!
Go home Zote.
I died from this "™"
zote, go keep simping over bretta, leave Mister Mushroom alone
Man, really should've left you in the jaws of that Vengefly King
@@Catflers I had that overgrown pest exactly where I wanted it until that wandering interloper came by!
imagine being a game dev and some wanker on youtube makes a video citing schrodinger, king of the hill, and a childhood scribbling you made for an egypt-themed board game as evidence for a throwaway npc being proof of the existence of a hollow knight multiverse continuity
i'd never feel more proud in my entire life
Imagine if this this video is actually true and that's what the devs actually meant lol
@@littleskeleton420 Hello sans
@@yuurifanclub now i cannot unsee it
No
I can’t believe that the “my first girlfriend turned into the moon” meme made its way to the Hollow Knight lore
That's rough, buddy.
"My first girlfriend turned into a tree."
my first crush turned into a tree
Isn’t it a avatar reference?
@@relatablegrandmacarol2502 yes grandma
mossbag really trying to drain every drop of lore from HK before Silksong
'Cause we all know Silksong's going to be bringing at least another 30 videos worth of lore with it.
I'm sorry but this was a great video, it's like a parody of his own stuff
Nah, he still hasn't made a theory video about how Hungry Knight can potentially be canon to Hollow Knight's universe and story. THAT'S when he's draining.
@@Couch_Banana Haven't you watched this video?
This video should just be called "16 minutes of mossbag squeezing his mushroom on camera"
Mossbag theory: mossbag said that he wouldn’t touch Undertale with a TEN foot pole but it was stated that mossbag is in possession of an ELEVEN foot pole. Therefor it is confirmed that mossbag will do Undertale theory’s soon.
Why he said that? he indirectly said that he doesn't like the game or I interpreted what he said wrong?
Hawks he won’t touch it with a ten foot pole because of what happened when MatPat made his infamous Ness=Sans theory, which angered many undertale fans. At least i believe that’s his reason.
he is scared of undertale fandom
Game theory: Is the Dashmaster from Hollow Knight SANS???
@@gabrielluck2354 Makes sense
He really skipped over the fact that mr mushroom says the person he’s talking to will not triumph through their tools, but their determination. He did say he wasn’t touching undertale with a ten foot pole though.
D E T E R M I N A T I O N
The reason he wouldn't touch undertale is because he knows how important it is to play undertale blind
@@VulpineFox7 or because the community is literally the worst
You guys are both incorrect. He said it once. It was because of what happened to Matpat when he tried to theorize about Undertale.
@@azuquirtle no, all the toxic people left, I love the undertale community. And why the Frick would someone not talk about undertale because of the community?
bike borb launched me several yards from my desk chair
Is this the true and only grayfruit ?
Oh hey it's grayfruit
Penis.
Ok mossbag is verified but you aren't? Huh?
Wow its grayfruit
“The obvious place to start is Schrodingers equation”
*He’s back boys*
I knew it.
Lego pfp
@@Mona-by8qq i thought you were dead
"This video contains spoilers for hollow knight [.] and M. Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender for the Nintendo Wii"
Excuse me what.
ikr, i was like "the fuck? they made a game based on that shitshow?"
That's how you know it's gonna be a quality video
All true gamers have played M. night Shyamalan’s the last air bender for Nintendo Wii
@@vizthex ngl, the show was pretty good, at least imo
@@MeckLords the show was awesome i think he is talking about the live action interpretation but please whatever the fuck you do, DON'T WATCH THAT SHITSHOW OF A MOVIE
“The obvious place to start is Schrodinger's equation”
"but first we need to talk about parallel universes"
I think the whole approach of "who is he talking to" is wrong. I believe you got it right with Castlemania, The Egypt Game etc. All of this were simply nods to every game they ever worked in, the whole path Mr. Mushroom travels is the path they traveled within game design. The Passing of Age is supposed to mean they were emabarking on a new project for a game, which is Silksong. I wouldn't be surprised if Silksong has Mr. Mushroom showing up in 8 spots...
Also, he was definitely talking to the Knight in that first dialogue.
Yea
Mossbag: "I'll explain Mr. Mushroom, but first, we need to talk about parallel universes"
M.S.Piranha Plant Advanced indeed like the upcoming lore of Bobby hill
Well TJ "Henry" Yoshi
Mossbag dead ass just asked us if we knew about {Gravity}
* Proceeds to take it seriously
Me: ('0_0)
But first, Quantum Mechanics
He's talking to you: the human player. His last quote is saying your tools (keyboard, mouse, monitor) aren't important, your skills are
So I'm the part of HK lore too?
aight time to speedrun without a montior
Then why does Hornet ask you to git gud?
@@BomberX911 dude we totally are part of HK lore
Determination? I instantly thought of Undertale
I've actually never found Mister Mushroom, I had no idea he was a thing in this game
Honestly, unless I see him with my own two eyes, I refuse to believe he is in the game.
Mister Mushroom is a conspiracy
Ive seen him once while traveling from godhome to the black egg because i refuse to finish pantheon 5 and wanted to fight radiance
Same
"Determination"
"Vietnam war flashbacks of Undertale genocide route*
Ahem, this would be more fit to True Pacifist. Their stats don't rise, and neither does their HP. Tools are not needed. The game is easy enough to get by with base stats, and you do not need a weapon to fight. To move on with pure determination, to repair your own soul with determination alone. Even RESET. That is what Mister Mushroom means. It is mainly Frisk's determination that will lead them to the end of this path.
@@drifter2391yes fine idea good chap, spot of tea will you?
(Me been stuck at undine for about 6 years) 😂
@@user-ij3qb5cp8c skill issue gg
you can hear him trying not to chuckle when he's listing off all of the pikmin enemies
I kinda thought that was funny listening to him trying not to laugh.
I wasn’t listening for ten seconds and you tell me Hollow Knight and King of the Hill are in the same universe. What the-
Im gonna kick your a-
Same lol
And the fact it's true makes it worst
even if you are listening for that part it doesnt make sense
If we grab King of the Hill first and last words, grab the initials of both words and then reverse their position, what do we get?
HK
i love how he tries not to laugh at the Puffstool
Team Cherry: Adds a funky mushroom man to the game
mossbag: Starts talking about quantum mechanics
Honestly I think Mister Mushroom is just a powerup from mario that got high on itself and was unshackled from the bounds of his universe.
All lore is clear, thats all i neded
So this is why all the Mario games are cartoonish... ...and why he’s called “mister” mushroom because Mario has a mustache and people that are called “mister” usually have mustaches...
HhhMMmHhHhMmMm Yea that sounds about right
Yes
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha (laughs hysterically)
He is the most important character to the lore of hollow knight, the world, and everything
yes, yes he is
Catto stando
@@timothytosser288 oh noo
his history goes beyond hallownest. İmportan he sure is
Are you a jojo reference?
Ah yes, Schrodinger’s equation. How could I be so foolish.
13:03 Ah yes, the usual Hollow Knight lore video.
Mister Mushroom can fly because he built up speed for 12 hours
He is 4 parallel dimensions ahead of you
Silksong is gonna come out and we are gonna find Belmont and Bobby Hill In game.
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Good
You literally killed me right now 😂
Hornet is propane confirmed
Haha, no silly, bobby hill is going to be the dlc they say they will make and then doesn't come out! wait... *HORNET IS BOBBY HILL CONFIRMED*
Every time mossbag says "Mario", an Italian chokes on pasta.
Alternate title: A man descends into madness while waiting for Silksong to come out
I’m stoked that I got to help with some lore.
Surprised to see you in this video!
Heck yeah
Yeee
Relyea, didn’t expect to see you in this cesspit of a comment section.
didn't expect to see u here relyea 😂
Evidence finally shows that the friendly mushroom from Avatar: The Last Airbender appears in Hollow Knight. I knew Team Cherry was high on cactus juice!
It'll quench ya!
Nothing's quenchier!
@@armanchoudhary8354 IT'S THE QUENCHIEST!
I see Legend of Korra video recommendation right now, send help
@@kormannn1 Sorry, you have reached a LoK fan. Please call again for better service *beeeeeeeep*
“I’m sure you’re a busy person, with a lot to do, so I will tell you that the next part is pure speculation.” Oh my good sir, you underestimate my free time.
D-Did you just unironically summarise the entirety of Castlevania lore in 3 minutes?
Mr mushroom has ascended beyond our understanding.
I am gorb!
@@alostyen3867 bow! Bow! Bow! Bow to gorb!
goooooooba! wajncjndcsosdjnvejshxaihdiwdnowjdwojdh ascend! A S C E N D !
-gorb
Higher beings, these words are for you alone.
Ascend! Ascend with Gorb!
20 seconds in and we’re already using Schrödinger’s equation. I’m glad that someone appreciates the sheer complexity of this cryptic character.
i love how a video about a mushroom that lives in a pile of dirt turned into explaining the lore of a dracula game
This confirms the knight in smash.
"The collective lives on"
RADIANCE INTENSIFIES
_Most likely forsheadowing_
Borg , zerg and tyranids intensified
*Communist Moths*
@@Detlaff_Official
It's a religion hurting others, making mindless drones, talking about only one god ... It's the church!
@@1r0zz All abrahamic religions , you mean. Muslims and Jews too.
'Thats where our leads drop dead"
I think they died when you needed to explain the entire plot of castlevania lol.
Personally, that final line of dialog sounds like it's talking to the main character of Undertale since one of the points of the game is to not attack (not using weapons or "tools"), and cleverness is definitely needed in order to find ways to not kill enemies and solve puzzles, and DETERMINATION.
Yep. This game privatized the d-word.
Unironically.
Thanks mossbag, i accidentally graduated from harvard with this information
I feel like Mossbag dropped out of college in the midst of his quantum mechanics lesson and just started talking about Hollow Knight.
This isnt fuckin TechnoBlade mate
Professor: by accounting for the superposition of the particles involved in the experiment the team was able to
Mossbag: so basically, Monomon is a dimensional shambler and Cory in the house remaster for switch confirm
Of course the video starts with
"But first, we need to talk about parallel universes"
"Imagine a bus..."
i facepalmed so hard when it was fucking mario 64
Anyone else think that the qoute by Mr mushroom "its not by tools that you'll triumph, it's through your smarts, speed and determination" could also have been hinting at silk song?
I strongly believe that when Mr. Mushroom says "It's not by tools you'll triumph, it's through your smarts, your speed, your determination..." is a clear reference to SilkSong. Hornet uses tools in the game, but I believe Mr. Mushroom is trying to tell her that these tools aren't what makes her strong.
Imagine not having particles - this meme was made by Copenhagen interpretation gang
imagine not using unity's particle system xD
Imagine having wave functions - this meme was made by the Highschool Physics gang
"It makes 40% sense, which is a pretty good for hollowknight lore"
Mossbag, it's not polite to understate yourself.
No i'm okay
14:03 it absolutely feels like an undertale reference
@@TheUnyieldingHunter-st2dx If I had to guess this person believes that mister mushroom's whole line is an Undertale refference. If you want to achieve the pacifist ending, you must not use any weapons, only your own wit, speed (dodging) and determination. But given how vague this is, your guess is as good as mine.
This is the most confused I’ve ever seen Mossbag
Man, quarantine would be a good time to play Silksong
Anytime would be good for Silksong
Team Cherry! Release Silksong! He's going completely insane!
Please release silksong
Team Cherry! Don’t rush SilkSong!
the fact that this comment is 2 years old now makes it so much better
11:28
Imagine they're waiting for 2035 or something
The Avatar “giant mushroom” reference killed me😂. Love these lore videos
Title card: to be continued
Moss bag: plays we’ll be right back music
Me: I’m am so greatly disappointed
He always seemed like a fun guy
Yes, I hear he's very gragaricus.
There isn't mushroom for new puns, is there?
@@adriantsui9566 If we put our minds to it we can think of new ones. What are we waiting spore?
@@WobblesandBean I'm sure we'll truffle someone's feathers if we continue down this route.
@@adriantsui9566 It mycelium that way, but I'm sure they're just jealous of our pun skills.
Mr.Mushroom Is obviously A “Higher Being”
Edit: Thanks for all the likes!
Finally we will understand the messages from the higher beings like "despacito"
Mr. Mushroom is void.
But then when you hit him the screen would go blank except his name in huge letters, then you’d get your ass whooped. That’s what happens with the other higher beings.
@@corbinbarron8772 bruh just use shaman stone and abyss shriek
SlingshotWaffles I actually think the radiance is one of the easiest bosses considering you should have every tool when facing it, I more thinking NKG and maybe Absolute Radiance
I'm only 8 min into the video and it's already the best quality piece of lore I've seen so far from all the hollow knight multiverse's lore videos you've made.
Dude I've been watching your videos for all of three days but they are legitimately some of the funniest, well thought out pieces of media that I have seen for a while. My god it's clever.
I'm betting 20 bucks that Mr. Mushroom could defeat the entire PoH with a single thought.
he zoomin
I love that the "Hollow Knight stole from Ori" thing is already a meme
I mean it's pretty obvious that they did
Edit: Seems people are stupid so I'll just add this
THIS IS A JOKE, I REPEAT, JOKE
@@pluto3194 bruh what, no they didnt
@@pluto3194 It's a reference to this videoczcams.com/video/yjkUMcSREdI/video.html .
Mossbag was talking specificaly about Ori and The Will of the Wisps which was released later then Hollow knight.
Someguy1237 in reddit AMA both Willliam and Ari said that they haven't played Ori.
In the first Ori you fight with a light orb from safe distant and spam attack. Hollow Knight on the other hand lets you have a sword where you need to get close to your enemy. Ori two comes out and lets you have a weapon too. Ori 1 has a skill tree, but hollow knight has charms. So what did they do for ori 2? Yeah well charms. How has this guy, you sent the link, the audacity to say hollow knight copied the second game 😂 lol
I really appreciate you just casually dropping castlevania lore in the video over the years castlevania has slowly died and also WE NEED A GAME ABOUT JULIUS BELMONT
I love how little of this video is actually about Mister Mushroom.
Soka, Megamind and Link are my favorite characters in Hollow Knight now
I like how Mossbag talks more about Castlevania lore than Hollow Knight lore.
Why, thank you so much for deciphering this! I finally understand this character, it all makes a lot of sense!
Mossbag:gets lost in samus
Also mossbag:doent get lost in hollow knight
Me: give me ure power
We know Mr. Mushroom is ascended. Who else is ascended? Gorb. Mr. Mushroom is Gorb.
Lol, the subtle jab at Game Theory
Morb
Here's a theory: Gorb is a godseeker. Evidence: he is the "great mind", he wants you to "ascend with Gorb", he looks like them except with no mask.
Matpat? wants to see this
Mossbag? I would love for you to have a look at this
Hotel? Trivago
This theory actually might have some sauce
....oh shit u right tho
You are br?
That's what I thought alsp
He did, and said no
I like how he says dark souls 1 and shows a picture of The lost Bastille in dark souls 2
Being an undertale fan I can’t blame you for not touching it with a ten foot pole
"...It's not by tools that you'll triumph, it's through your smarts, your speed, your determination..." I'm pretty sure this line is directed directly towards either the Knight or the player. He's saying that your skill and determination are more important for beating the game than your upgrades are. Since this is his final message I think it makes sense for him to adress the player or player character before flying off for good.
I agree with this. The game is unbeatable whether you have the fully upgraded dream nail or not, although you won't get the best ending. I don't buy the connections to Zelda and Metroid and all that.
True. Could even refer to the bindings during godhome, as you play with less health, no charms, a downgraded nail, etc., and all you've got to triumph is your own skill.
The only problem is, that's really not true. If you get OP stuff the game is super easy.
thats a lie i couldnt beat nosk without nail upgrades i try 100 tiems
that or this is an undertale reference
mossbag: “Dark Souls 1 uses it”
Also mossbag: uses image from dark souls two...
and misses the theme of cycles in ds3
Obeida Waleed cycles have nothing to do with reusing characters though. The cycle is just the Flame dying and being relit.
@@alexhamilton7090
oh i meant cycle as a theme rather than the literal cycle within the lore, with every time the flame is linked the word gets more messed up because linking the flame and prolonging the age of fire is against the natural progression of the world, so the result of this oppression to nature manifests as stagnation, i see at as having a perfectly organized music playlist and then pressing the shuffle button and ruining it, all the songs are still there but the order makes no sense, there's no harmony so to speak, so when you link the flame for many many years (amount of years between ds1 & ds3) you eventually reach pure chaos which leads to vestiges of past ages to recur (remember the dreg heap/kiln of the flame in ds3?) this is what i meant by "theme of cycles" i understand the confusion because i didn't make the distinction clear in my comment, i hope this made sense though
@@aX0n777 Good way of looking at it, but imo they shouldn't have brought back so much from the first game no matter the reason. A few returning characters would be ok- it is a sequel after all- but there was no reason for Andre or Kirk to return. DS2 did the cycles theme right imo- thousands of years pass and the legends are forgotten, but certain things repeat all the same. DS3 just got too literal with it.
@@alexhamilton7090
i think ds3 did enough of a good job to stand on its own two feet, expanding the lore and tying up loose ends in a satisfying way while providing an actual happy ending to the series with Gael's story, let alone having the best version of the dark souls combat system, so the fan service for me feels like a bonus, but as i say that i can DEFINITELY understand why someone would dislike it, it serves no purpose in the main quest and it's kind of just there for the fans to see and say "yeah i remember that" some pple like it and some think they've gone too far with it, i can understand both sides.
Every time he talks about the mushroom telepathy a piece of me dies
It's MYCELIUM
Sure, but in hollow knight they’re also telepathic and can move. You can’t really be connected to mycelium when you’re jumping around everywhere
@@teathesilkwing7616mycelium is omnipresent, just jack in at your next location
I think that when he talks about how “you aren’t hungry anymore” is when he starts talking to you.
About the nose thing him talking about noses is probably referring to the fact mr mushroom is the only character that has a nose
False Knight and the other two maggots have noses, though.
@@Dinoman972 well thats because they are Higher Beings just like Mr. Mushroom
@@StackMan they are mosquitos. That is a mouth
Also that ugly bug from the alpha that was cut
@@sebas_1975 do you mean mossbug?
It would be cool to see a video on the different "elements" in hollow knight (lifeblood, void, nightmares, dreams, silk, soul, etc.) and how they interact with each other (for example, paleness seems to destroy void as we see from the delicate flower ending).
Mushroom: if have nose, then use it
Mossbag: "it there a deeper meaning?"
This is probably the most comprehensive in-depth analysis of HK lore I've ever seen. The multiverse concept was something I've always considered based on the dream nails use on lord shade
This guy's now making Team Cherry lores, not Hollow Knight
my god, he's alive! bless you, moss person
so about conversation 5, mr mushroom mentions "going back up", "gathering, hunting, or wandering around aimlessly" and "things are getting too dangerous down here" i feel this might be a reference to pikmin 2 because, in pkmin 2 there are caves, and these caves, can get really dangerous the deeper you go, "going back up" may be a reference to the fact the in pikmin 2 the surface is a lot safer than the caves, "gathering" may be a reference to gathering treasures which you do a lot of in pikmin 2, "hunting" may reference to killing enemies to get more pikmin, and "wandering around aimlessly" may reference the fact that if youre playing the game for the first time, you dont know where all the reasures are, so what do you do? wander around aimlessly
No outro segment, no theme song. Just a cut sentence of "Thanos's asshole".
What a great video
Undertale: *Exist
Comments: "War, war never changes."
Fandom be like: So you’ve chosen death bag of moss
A
edit: but seriously, thank you so much mossbag for your videos, your content is amazing- thank you lore god of hollow knight-
You win
Truly the one with a hollow knight pfp gets here first.
Quirrel for president
you just got a well earned sub. I really like these types of videos and I like hollow knight. Keep up the great content! I shall be awaiting for your next video
Just fucking binge watched your videos, already fucking LOVE this channel.
I was so proud of myself when you said "hungry" and i instantly knew it was a hungry knight reference. I have not watched a hollow knight lore video for months. It's deep within my consciousness
I wished i could discuss hollow knight lore with someone lok
In German "Mister mushrooms" Name is "Meister Pilz" what means
"Master Mushroom"
This is the link to Paper Mario because there’s the Master dude that trains you to fight and stuff
Fun fact, "Mr." started as an abbreviation for "Master", before eventually being corrupted into "Mister".
Soul mastershroom
Please just give me more of this. It just fuels my inner, corrupted autism that everyone hates so much. Thanks in advance
_this is the high quality content i was looking for_
"Video games having parallel universes is not a unique concept." Shows super mario 64
sounds like someone hasnt seen the a press video
Primal aspids lore:
They are archaic demons who like to cause pain.
They fucking feed off of all suffering they manage to inflict upon us
Sadistic things.
Correct
Shade soul or great slash one hit them, theyre easy to dodge without them too, judt dhade thru it and 2 hit them, they arent a problem outside of all bindings
That would be those stupid ass Crystal Hunters, holy crap they're the most annoying enemy from this game
Holy sh*t, your sense of humour is f*cking hilarious dear kind sir, and the only regret I now have after watching this masterpiece is the lack of understanding why so few of my friends (if any) are going to ever understand the freaking coolness of the "uninstall eyes" gag. Seriously, why?!..
...anyway, that was some serious piece of hard work put into deciphering this part of the Hollow Knight's deep lore and I finally got most satisfying answers or (in certain cases) at least some really plausible assumptions regarding Mr. Mushroom's part in the Hallownest scheme, so many, many thanks and hats off!
"undertale does it aswell, but im not touching that game with a ten foot pole."
i have never felt so much pain in my life
Conspiracy theory: Mister Mushroom is the guy who appears in the end sequence in the dream no more ending and is also the one who gives Hornet to those weirdos in silksong
mossbag: Uploads after a while
Me: It's been 84 years..
*its been so long.*
*since the last i've seen your vid.*
*last to this corona.*
*to the man behind the bat soup*
Obviously, the last conversation is an undertale reference, because it has the word determination and both games were funded in Kickstarter and top donors got to create characters.
this is my favourite video in existence thank you
The quarantine must have finally gotten to mossbag.
"What was called a "hero" in its moment may be called something very different after time has passed."
this just seems to me that theyre talking to the corpse of the soul master
Honestly? It seems more like it‘d be talking about the hollow knight
Was called a hero in it‘s moment, but is now known as a boss
I am commenting for more JOOJ references
Nice profile pic it looks like a combination between the Knight and a shiny phantump I think it's name was, don't remember and I'm typing a comment at 2 AM this probably has tons of spelling errors that I'm too tired too see