What's Jamie Thomas' Board Setup?!
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What's Jamie Thomas' Board Setup?!
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you guys gotta include their shoe size!!
Size 13, 8.25 board, 139 indys
I grew up on 7.5, forced to move up to 7.75 10 years ago
@The chemist because a big reason for peoples preference for board size depends on your shoe size. If you got size 8 feet, then an 8.5 board might seem excessively big, but to someone with size 11 feet it would feel more natural
I don't think that shoes size necessarily reflects board size.
I'm 6'2", 175lbs, size 11(US)10 (UK) and still ride a 7.75 😊
Larry Jimbob boi u better fuckin ride an 8.5 at least bruh😂😂 damn man ur trippin big boy riding a toothpick
Yeah guys its a preference, but one the most objective variables is how big your shoe is compared to the board.
I prefer 2" flat-head bolts.
Id rather have 1/2 machine screws with a torx bit
I just superglue my trucks to my deck
@@fernandoreyes680 Nice! You probably get a temporary hover board when you hit a crack too. Gonna try.
just use staples bro theyre the best
Hahaha. You stole my joke. Pan head??? I had an old board from the early nineties that had allen bolts, but, they were pan head and had washers. I thought that was nuts. I don't remember if that's what I always skated back then.
7.75 with medium tight trucks, don't care much about the bolts, big wheels 53/54 to last, no risors
Another thing - Shops are super annoying because they only carry 8's and up!
I met Jamie Thomas when I was 13 or 14 at a skateshop. Still have the picture. Legend
With you there dude 👍😊
I ride 7.75 and you don't get much choice, if any at all.....or even a 7.75 in stock! 😕😂
I moved up to an 8" because I wanted to try the Powell flight deck. I like it, but probably wouldn't have changed if they offered a smaller one. Definitely not much choice in smaller boards nowadays.
Rico Forex 7.75 gang! 👊
I now ride a 7.62” and an 8.5”. Too much time skating in the 90’s to fully commit to the bigger boards.
I started skating around 1998, ive been away from skating for a little while and the biggest shock to me is that boards appear to be way wider now. I'm 5'8 150 size 10 shoes and grew up skating 7.75's but that is apparently tiny now? A wider board sounds kinda nice actually if they're lighter now
I was at the Brooklyn banks when Mr Thomas was filming a line for Welcome to Hell. He had stars cut out in his grip tape. I went home and cut stars in my grip the next day.
Cut? I thot that was Spray painted
Respect
Didnt tht place smell like PURE PISS.
I remember we went the banks at night, 5 to 6 hr drive from Baltimore.
Anyways, i was mimicking his line n went to ollie the 4 step where the basketball court is thts right before the handrail at the banks n a bum was sleeping at the bottom of the 4 stair. I had to kick my board out. Scared the fck outta me. It was like 1 in the morning
You’re old. I am too.
I always lost nuts when I used 7/8". I guess 7/8" definitely makes more sense if you're pro or am and always have access to new stuff, but if I used them I'd have to get like a big supply because I mostly just bomb crusty-ass hills these days and that shit rattles off. I think most skaters out there are skating crusty shit, too; parking lots and stuff.
Try using "Loctite" on your bolts.. May hold the nut better/longer
I have never had a nut come off my 7/8 bolts, and I've skated for 25yrs...
@@joshradelaide943I’ve skated for. Less and it’s happened to me so….
I’ve never heard this happen to anyone and I been skating on and off since 2001
That three skulls w/ blood graphic...my favorite!!
I love talking board set ups. Not one skater has the same set up as another, we all have our own little preferences and particular ways whether it be from a styling and aesthetic point of view or from a logistical point of view. It’s so interesting to hear.
7/8 allen is and always have been the "standard" in every European shop I have ever been in.
1 inch Philips sounds like some freedom bolt schenanigans.
I sized up my board from 8.0 to 8,6. It felt heavy and slow at first, but I liked it best for rails and ledges. I also skate 1.49 trucks.
Thats the Thing With Wide Boards Thier Heavy, makes tricks harder to do but u can Grind Better
Fuck yes, love the talk about the creative gripjobs. Always gets me more stoked to go skate when i have something dope to look down on.
jamie is so wholesome....been one of my favorite skaters since the new blood days
so proud of hearing jamie thomas mention cowtown which is my local in arizona i love being at cowtown even though this video is 2 years old now
Shoe type has a lot to do with board feel. Vulcanized vs caps is a polarizing variant, much more important than bolt size or bolt head.
So funny my set up is exactly like Jamie’s. Big boards (9.25-9.5) big trucks gotta have a cool grip job and colored wheels👌🏽
I used to cut out es shoeboxes to make big Es stencils and uses metallic sharpies on my grip when I was little
I remember frank gerwer saying that longer bolts provide better stability when bombing hills
Funny to hear 8.6 be considered big. I started riding those heroine egg boards, I’m on the Eric dressen 9.75 and can do all my flip tricks with no hassle, but my favorite is the symetrical 9.5 egg
I always mess around with the grip tape. There is no single deck that looks the same, it's fun!
🤣 "No one rides allens"
All I use are allens.
Imagine saying that to Jamie Thomas
@@tommyjohns7194 right? I wonder if the dude legit had any idea who he was talking to?
Likewise.
8.7, 151’s and 54mm wheels?, , very Jamie Thomas setup sounds heavy duty🤙🏽🤙🏽
8.6” deck, 151 Thunders 8.75” axle length, and 54” Formula 4’s
Yep, I went to a board shop near me and 1 inch Phillips are certainly a thing. I walked out and went to Lowes and found 7/8 Alan and they worked just fine. Lol
I ride bolts that are longer cause I ride til my shit is almost hanging off then retighten! Lmao
I run 7/8 Phillips, They're Independant so Independant trucks and bolts.
I had only allen key bolts on my Thunder Zero setups in the mid 2000s as a kid and now use 1" phillips (with risers to help wheel bite) just because it seems like it became the universal standard. Allen key are harder to find and keep and the bolts strip out if you're an inexperienced child trying to tweak your setup. I blame Zumiez for silently ushering in the standard of phillips head lmao
Never saw any phillips bolts when I was skating. Only allen. This was 20 years ago though lol
Please don’t forget to ask about their truck tightness! For whatever reason I always want to know whether guys prefer loose, tight, or somewhere in the middle. Thank you!
I started skating in 07 and only ever been able to buy phillips bolts around my area
I remember back in 2006/2007 people were skating philips more than allens. Me personally I thought phillips were more practical because it's easier to find a screw driver hanging around than an allen key, but it turns out that I've never skated phillips, only allen.
I used to only ride Shorty's ... Wish my local carried them . 😔
I ride Allen wrench bolts 7/8 who wants hardware to big sticking out
I'm running the board in the thumbnail lol
I like 1 inch only because it feels like they tighten better, but I prefer Allen over Phillips any day 😊❤
@5:50 I felt that way before. Then bought a krooked drehobl and having a shape made it more interesting.
stores started carrying those bolts and left little option and the commonality of a phillips screwdriver just made us like ok, screw driver and a skate tool. i have my shortys skate tool from the early 2000’s and its got a phillips. no allen
And if you ride 1 inch Phillips....get your shit together!
The line I always got was that most kids did not have the strength to tighten Allen bolts and would throw tantrums. That they would usually lose the small Allen key were as a long Phillips driver gives them the extra space needed to tighten the bolts. that Allen bolts lost there thread quicker and were more difficult to remove after, that kids love adding riser pads cus they are sold on the notion the it will stop pressure cracks and that they feel more secure seeing the excess of the bolt because they won’t lose the nuts.I’ve been told this by multiple Vans and Zumiez employees. Regular skate shops usually have a good laugh knowing it’s just a money grab
holy shit i started in 2001 and i never knew about 7/8 allens lol. im def about to switch
I like the inch bolts because my trucks get janky
Lmao before the silver tool, silver tool really changed setting up boards
@Gcoolsnow yeah the first skate tool that had the ratcheting socket for your hardware and a grip tape file attached
OMG I went through this exact same thing coming back to skateboarding after a while. I was like wait why are there no allen bolts anywhere? Who wants to deal with phillips heads?
There wasn't ever a Phillips screw driver around. All tools me and the guys carried had Allen heads and two nut sizes for wheels and hardware. Phillips is just unheard of.
I've "Whored Around" some, but I've been riding the 7.75 x31.5 3 Skull since about '07...... Blood has been green, gold, sometimes white W/black skulls... But other than single skull & the OCCASIONAL "other stuff" it's been the same... (Even the Dwindle years)
'Whored around' 😂😂😂
I've never strayed, always a 7.75....everything else looks like a f**king tank to me! 😂😊
My first ever board was a Vision Jinx with tracker trucks 😊
@@larryjimbob I'll freely admit that my 1st board was a Variflex from Venture!!! 1st REAL setup?? Psycho Stick with Trackers and OJ's...
I settled into a 7.75" or 7.88" for about 20 years, and I've just recently moved up to an 8" over the last year. I do like it and it feels comfortable now, but I wonder how I'd feel if I went back down again.
@@AlexNiedt it's becoming increasingly difficult to find the right size and shape.... Companies NOW call 7.75 a mini!!! Kids like Kader riding 8.25s!!!! SMH!!
7/8” makes sense, but why Allen over Phillips? Phillips screw drivers are everywhere, Allen keys are a scavenger hunt every time,
Allen doesn’t strip out over time and it looks better but it’s personally all preference G
@@curtislathrop Phillips do strip over time, but never on a skateboard. You would crack the board way sooner. It’s got to be a style thing.
@@alexnelson8 again it’s personal preference
If you place the philips into the screw & turn the nut you'll strip the x bolt less frequently but me personally i ride the 7/8th alan i have for around 18 years now i''ve never had an issue i've had the same bolts for about 5 years now they still look new i keep a small alan key in my wallet and i have two in my skate bag if your serious about your stuff you wont lose it i promise
Try out Diamond hardware or the Thunder 7/8th alans work great for me 🙏🏽
I now hate my one inch bolts because I was told I should lol
my friend ordered 20 blank boards and 200 bearing and all a sudden we felt like stairset rich champions and hella motivated. we skated 7''8 boards and never knew our heroes did staitsets riding 8"5+ boats... Jesus!
I've always used 7/8 allen hardware. Maybe it's a 90's thing IDK?
Same
I despise Allen bolts…& my 7/8” ones start rattling over rough ground
This was great! You guys gotta get sheckler on..
I do know if you take the width it should be greater than the length minus 2 feet.
Unit tools have a allen key on it its the other side of the philips head next to the rubber ring that keeps it in place
The same tool that’s always missing?
@@alexnelson8 yes lol once that rubber piece is gone the philips head disappears
I always ride allen key bolts, 1" though but I ride risers. Phillips is just whack for me.
7/8" bolts are an eighth away from 1"... I prefer allen keys myself, but they should make 3/4" bolts.
3/4” bolts would technically work...
I skate an 80s reissue as a street board
I think ur right kelly, droves of new skaters not knowing what bolts to get
The guy in the store clearly had too much stock of 1” Philips
Everyone has a different setup it’s crazy I heard Daewon removes the truck nut to allow his front to be loose af
nah he removes the bushings, and then he adds an extra metal washer im pretty sure
If either one of the statements are true, Daewon is a straight up God!
czcams.com/video/pt--3DX-md0/video.html Daewon setup details from years back. Read the comments section and you'll see mention of another skater that rides trucks more loose
I like one Inch because the nut doesn't fall off as much and fast. I didn't have to keep buying hardware.
Always rode inch allens, just ordered some 7/8 phillips
Shorties silverados with the slim lock nuts.
7/8" allen always. 2010 was the height of my skateboarding and I never could not find em. Maybe i had stock of silverados?? Idk, but I've always used 7/8" allen. Honestly i wish theyd make torx. Everything should just be torx. Phillips suck.😂
Lucky you Nancy Hunt!! 😂😂😂😂
Cool thanks for posting
Great setup
7/8 Allen gang for life!✊
I can only hope Truck brands would sell even a "Hanger" only.. Coz thats the one that gets abused as far as truck parts
I had a baseplate get damaged and cracked. But the board got ran over from a full size truck and trailer. Other then the very rare occasion they never get damaged but geometry is different
I've definitely get pivot holes get in trucks get warped because I didn't replace the pivot cups haha
I usually wear out pivot cups, bushings, and king pins before a hanger. I have had lots of axles slip before any of these things though...
I mean in my defense I ride Philips because I always have a Philips head screw driver in my house but I agree what’s the point of 1 inch bolt with no riser pads even with risers you should probably get longer bolts
DORSITOS 😂
Phillip's bolts dont get fucked up as easily, thats why its better
@the Jack yeah. if you are not pro, you are better off with Phillips, cause they last longer, the grooves melt on the allens. literally, there are no tools to save a broken allen screw, its just inferior in every way.
Started talking about meticulous skaters and he hit the nail on the head with chirs cole, so i thought what would be the exact opposite and i instantly thought Louie Barletta
Imagine the moment they switch their board setups and nuts about it. Also, Louie always have an unique bolt placement for ollie reason.
Old Jamie was the first to put the stars in the grip tape
Really want zero to make grip tape again
I ride 7/8 Allen too. I've heard this before
Secretly Always Hated Allen bolts.... Allen Bolts are like my most hated skate item.
Its the truth! Just got new gold Indy hardware n sure shit 1" Phillips lol
WTF??.....who is even using them?! 😂😂😂
Phillips?! 😕
@@larryjimbob mini hacksaw fixes alot of things 🤣
Aren't the 1in bolts made so that with time you don't lose any bolts? I've used 7/8 and after a while I find myself missing one or two bolts. So unless you crank the shit out of your bolts then 1in is better since the extra bolt is there and won't allow the bolt to come out as easily with time.
Most of the skaters I have known that were losing hardware, were reusing old nylocks. I have had better luck replacing nylock nuts with every new setup, though they say you can reuse them. Admittedly, I have 1/8" showing on my current bolts.
Nah, tht little rubber ring on the nut is basically a locking washer. If tht doesnt work, just use low strength lock tight
I very much agree with you, Jamie is tripping. 7/8 always comes loose and ovals your baseplate if you skate outside of skateparks
@@austingriffith3598 low strength lock tight.
@@vperkv6554 maybe as an emergency measure but 1” bolts don’t require it, they hold tight on their own
I can always find a Phillips head screwdriver never know where a allen key is
Call me nobody, those bolts make the set up.
Kelly is right about beginners, nearly everybody has a Phillips screwdriver so they buy what they recognise! 1 inch also a great if you’re not sure if you want risers or not!
Damn,homie you ride for dorstos!
Bring back the water bottles in the shop!
bro i have the same board its really good
I use to like Philips but Allen is definitely superior
'You know Fos, the dude who runs heroin?'
Took me a minute to understand he meant Fos, the guy who owns Heroin skateboards. I initially thought he was just name dropping a dude they know that moves a bunch of weight lol.
😂
Damn no i hate allen head screws you strip them suckers like nothing ph2 ftw😂
The one inch bolts used to annoy the hell out of me too but then I started skating alot more drops and trying to so more technical skating rather than just the usual mini ramp flat ground stuff I like to do and the 7/8 became wayyy to small, I've lost so many bolts over this summer because they became so loose so fast so the 1in actually work better for me
Exactly put a freshy on then a couple hours later your missing like two bolts lol. I'd dig the bolts deep into the wood giving me pressure cracks so i just went back to the one inch.
loose bolts? Buy some shortie's 7/8 allen and you're set. Quality matters.
@@trupiil I've skated shorties, shake junt, diamond and they all have gotten loose
@@alexsosa202 the thing is, a longer bolt does not prevent a nut from going loose. I've never had loose shortys. Try screwing them on properly.
@@trupiil then you probably dont skate hard enough or take any impact not hating just saying and a screw is pretty easy to install small room for error I'm sure they were screwed in properly even pass the nylon nut lock and they still gradually come loose.
John Rattray "div lives"
Jamie Go to fasten all get bags of them 7/8 Allen bolts !
Amen. 7/8 Allen for life. Phillips look like something you buy from a hardware store in the 50’s
Wanting and preferring 1 inch Philips head screw bolts to 7/8 inch Allen bolts is mind boggling and odd when 7/8 inch Allen bolts are so much more convenient, easier and better. And I can't understand why 7/8 inch Allen bolts wouldn't sell, that is also mind boggling and odd.
im rich thats how i feel every tme i watch the nine club the best fucking show on the interweb peace love and light brothers
7/8 hex bolt 100%
I seen some 1 1/4 bolts today
1/4” risers are very common on cruiser skates, so 1.25” bolts are necessary. I’ve got 3” bolts on my dirt cruiser.
Man I remember sometime around 2001 Jamie Thomas came to visit Ireland. I was 12 years old and a massive Zero fan. I was too shy to go visit him and it was only a 30 min drive away. (for my parents) I still regret not trying to see him.
Damn it dude that sucks
@@jedinaiit2345 Well it did teach me to stop being a shy kid and do things out of my comfort zone. So that's a plus I guess. 😅
@@Lacotemale I think that’s the best lesson there for sure! I’ve learned something similar with just getting out and trying my best, which is something I didn’t do when I was younger
I feel im a victim of Insinuation
Phillips are way too easy to strip...and of anyone has had to get a truck off of a striped bolt...will feel the same way the chief does lol
I HAVE TO HAVE BLACK DOH DOHS THEM HARD BUSHINGS KEEP THE WHEEL BITE AWAY
No phillips and no inch bolts. That's how it's done. Skateshops take note.
phillips is best....1" is nutty tho
He looks like Jon Bernthal!
Agree two thousand 1 inch bolt shit