GM made a better engine than the LS? And it's an Inline 6?? - Twin Turbo Vortec 4200 Datsun Dyno

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2022
  • Today we dyno our partially built "Ameri-Barra" Vortec 4200 powered Datsun 260z. We make some big horsepower on this one and have definitely gotten past our Dyno Fail from last time.
    You can buy our shirts here: www.paccracing.com/store
    Thanks!!
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  • @davesoltoggio3280
    @davesoltoggio3280 Před rokem +426

    As a Barra owner and person who has played with most all I can say is well done and it’s great to see people starting to look outside the box! 7 main caps rule when it comes to block strength and low rpm torque! Don’t get rid of your variable cams as this is a major benefit in wide overall power development! Well done and welcome to in-line 6 club 💯👍🏼👌🏼🇦🇺

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +51

      Thanks man! Good to see some positivity out there from the Barra community.

    • @knifethrower9733
      @knifethrower9733 Před rokem +1

      Barra the world 🦾

    • @wed3k
      @wed3k Před rokem +8

      I'm not knocking the 7 main caps but how many bolts hold them? Ls runs 6 bolts per cap

    • @davesolty1902
      @davesolty1902 Před rokem +17

      @@wed3k If you talking Barra? 14 + 10 side bolts that use the sump to tie altogether!

    • @DemetriusDemarcusTheThirdJr
      @DemetriusDemarcusTheThirdJr Před rokem +9

      @@Calvin-Nelson keep up the great work bringing light to this engine and also for being such a good commentator reminds me of Doug Demuro lol

  • @snakeeaterperformance
    @snakeeaterperformance Před rokem +312

    This is incredible. So happy to be able to be a part of it. I agree, let’s get some aftermarket support!!

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +12

      Thanks for all the help!

    • @nsboost
      @nsboost Před rokem +1

      For a engine that was made less than eight years? Meh.

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +12

      @@nsboost but they made a billion of them. Have you been to a local wrecking yard. Ours has 20. Take a drive. You'll see at least 5

    • @johnc.hammersticks
      @johnc.hammersticks Před rokem +2

      I'm glad you guys built this up. I always wondered if the inline six would hold up and it's doing fantastic. This could be a motor for a new grand national!!!!!

    • @bubbakushingtonIII
      @bubbakushingtonIII Před rokem +1

      Pretty wild getting that kind of power out of an inline.

  • @JunkyardDigs
    @JunkyardDigs Před rokem +222

    Holy shit ... Might have to play with one of these

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 Před rokem +12

      I hear 700 hp reliable on stock bottom end 🤷

    • @billcat1840
      @billcat1840 Před 11 měsíci +13

      Bet their cheap at the wreckers...no one wants them.

    • @MrThunderCunt
      @MrThunderCunt Před 11 měsíci

      Definitely

    • @fast97z24
      @fast97z24 Před 10 měsíci +6

      This is crazy. Not an LS guy. But i am an underdog guy. This might be the way.

    • @kevinAuman1
      @kevinAuman1 Před 10 měsíci +4

      ​@@spankthemonkey3437yes but my little baby LS the 4.8 or four point GREAT as they're often referred as can easily handle 1k plus HP on stock bottom end infact all you'd have to do really is upgrade the valve springs and throw some forced air down her yapp and BOOM she's a ripper!

  • @jdmmike7225
    @jdmmike7225 Před rokem +104

    I remember a few years ago when I learned GM made a 4.2L DOHC I-6 I instantly wondered if anyone had ever seriously tried to build one. Great job & I would love to see some more content with this beast & what it could take with some super stout internals.👍

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +19

      Stay tuned.

    • @warrenpuckett4203
      @warrenpuckett4203 Před rokem +6

      2 reasons dropped. A. not a V-8. B. The engine compartments are too short. Yep 2 cylinders too long.

    • @jdmmike7225
      @jdmmike7225 Před rokem +10

      @@warrenpuckett4203 Well some of us just aren't into V8's as much. But it's all personal preference bro.

    • @samueljackson2478
      @samueljackson2478 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I wish Gm would invest more in Turbocharged 3L and 4L engines across their car and Suv lineup

    • @samueljackson2478
      @samueljackson2478 Před 11 měsíci +3

      I wonder what the 4.3 V6 would do

  • @SloppyMechanics
    @SloppyMechanics Před rokem +306

    its wild what you guys are doing and showing with this platform!

  • @johnwjr2905
    @johnwjr2905 Před rokem +108

    Congratulations on your 850+ pull. Absolutely great. There were the guys (B. Sizemore, etc) back in the mid 1970's with their Cleveland headed 300 CI sixes making gobs of power for that era. You and your family are trailblazers (pun intended) for this era, and making double the power with less CI.

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +10

      Thanks. Those old 6s are very cool

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 Před rokem +6

      @@Calvin-Nelson
      Theres someone on CZcams putting an LS head on a Ford 300

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +5

      @@mpetersen6 yeah. That's Ken. Cool guy.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 Před rokem +9

      @@Calvin-Nelson
      If I were younger I'd seriously look at putting a Windsor or Cleveland had on a AMC/Jeep 4.0. Same bore spread. That or use a set of Infinity or GM LQ-1 heads. They're pretty close. A lot closer than the LS to the Ford. In Argentina they race Ford, Chevy and 4.0 based motors with 24V DOHC heads. TC series.

  • @kennysmith1334
    @kennysmith1334 Před rokem +75

    I hope that the aftermarket is paying attention as this is a wonderful platform for the everyday guy to build and race thanks for the information that you all are putting up for us 🇺🇸

    • @champspec
      @champspec Před 8 měsíci

      Well what anyone should really be paying attention to is how this guys dyno graph is inflated beyond epic proportion.
      He states 867 whp, but the HP and Torque numbers dont cross at 5280 on the graph. HP is a calculation based on torque. And the way any dynamometer works is calculate the torque based on wheel speed and engine RPM. So long story short, the numbers should cross right around 5200-5300 range. As you can see, they do not. So this guy is manipulating the numbers somewhere. I’d guess the real WHP numbers are about 600 give or take.

    • @dogdue4588
      @dogdue4588 Před 7 měsíci

      Ya know, absolutely! Gotta give'em a hand for what they have accomplished...

    • @steventurner476
      @steventurner476 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@champspecat least he doesn't dump money into 4l60s

  • @AmericanThunder
    @AmericanThunder Před 11 měsíci +12

    Inline 6 is a very good platform. Cummins 5.9, Ford 300, Ford Barra, Jeep 4.0, all of them great engines, inline sixes.

    • @donaldlewis8643
      @donaldlewis8643 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I agree! Super easy access to plugs and other components!

  • @raceman946
    @raceman946 Před rokem +22

    So awesome! been loving the 4200 content! have an 08 envoy and would kill to see some more aftermarket support.
    videos like this making CRAZY power will help people see how great this engine can be.
    they made sooooooo many of these engines, could easily become a popular swap
    then i can be one step closer to the ultimate michigan fire road machine, small turbo envoy with mild suspension so i can rip around with 4 others and all our stuff!

  • @jamiebray8532
    @jamiebray8532 Před rokem +18

    Dude, just WOW 😳! I am beyond impressed on this straight 6. I've always been a major fan of gm 6's. Especially the good ole 250 & 238. My 1st car being a '74 Nova with a 250 & a 2spd power glide. That was a very fun, & a fairly quick car. Hey I was 16. The I graduated to an '86 firebird with a sm block 400 & turbo 400 trans. That was even more fun in the early to mid '90's. Love the engine.

  • @chrisadkins6830
    @chrisadkins6830 Před rokem +23

    I am slowly (so very slowly), seeing more people play with these. Wish I hadn't grown up a poor farm boy, cause I thought these engines were an awesome design then. Now folks are seeing what I suspected for a long time.

    • @_..-.._..-.._
      @_..-.._..-.._ Před rokem +7

      Same here, I was 14 when the trailblazer came out and I was obsessed with I-6’s I knew in my soul these things were destined for greatness. So glad Nivlac actually did something about it!

  • @inkscars6380
    @inkscars6380 Před rokem +6

    AMEN BROTHER!!! The more aftermarket support we get for potential platforms THE BETTER!!!

  • @brandonpower9749
    @brandonpower9749 Před rokem +4

    Before i found your channel years ago I always loved the 4200 engines and wanted to do soemthing with them and you have shown me everything I need to know Thanks calvin

  • @shaunpc2512
    @shaunpc2512 Před rokem +53

    That’s blooming impressive guys, what you’re doing with these engines is phenomenal given the lack of support for them.
    You get a high five 🖐🏼 from me over in the UK 🇬🇧

  • @gackal1982
    @gackal1982 Před rokem +21

    the atlas plattform is a solid well engineered modular engine, our trailblazer is closing into the 300k mile mark and still strong

    • @dannyvann9233
      @dannyvann9233 Před rokem +2

      Yes I have a 03 trailblazer closing in on 300k mark also. I looked up info GM said they were only good for 250k. But we know different

    • @brianwesley28
      @brianwesley28 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Hold onto them and rebuild them to 4.4 using the Avalanche 5 cylinder sleeves and pistons when it's time for a rebuild.

  • @literallyshaking8019
    @literallyshaking8019 Před rokem +111

    I’ve had the 4200 in the back of my head for years as a potential rival to the Barra and 2J. It’s a sleeper engine that you can pick up for next to nothing, but the only real issue is aftermarket support.
    I feel there’s lots of companies/people missing out on so much potential lying in wait in every junkyard in America.

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +14

      Yup. Truth. Speak it.

    • @definitionmedia1130
      @definitionmedia1130 Před rokem +1

      2jz shits on the barra the Rb and the USA barra,and lots of others not worth comparing

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +18

      @@definitionmedia1130 ok. Cool.

    • @literallyshaking8019
      @literallyshaking8019 Před rokem +34

      @@definitionmedia1130 can I get a 2JZ at any junkyard in America for $300?

    • @definitionmedia1130
      @definitionmedia1130 Před rokem +2

      @@literallyshaking8019 I hear you,but you get what you pay for,if you want to be on the world stage in the i6 game it's toyota.the barra and others are cheap bang for buck,built for built never compete with toyota,but there cheap fun,

  • @bryanmayfield1987
    @bryanmayfield1987 Před rokem +44

    Whoa, bro. This thing is sick. I had a trailblazer at one point but could find any aftermarket support for the 4200. Really cool, man. I showed this video to my wife and she says I should try and build one. I can do fab work and a few other things so thanks for the inspiration to get back into it.

  • @dondotterer24
    @dondotterer24 Před rokem +4

    Ooooh then again you are the king tuning a figuring out the 4.2. You guys put alot of time and hard work into it.

  • @perception-reception
    @perception-reception Před 11 měsíci +1

    So impressive. Used to be a guy that ran an inline 6 in a 64 Nova at 1/8 mile strip near me in TN and the sounds are so unique. It was a 5 second car though and that was 10 plus years ago. Love what you're doing.

  • @christophercasale7961
    @christophercasale7961 Před rokem +4

    When I first started watching I was wondering where the intercooler was and then "on methanol" ahhh yes.
    I've been watching you and your family develop these for a while now and I'm glad you buckled down and finally built one a little bit. It's great to see how much you were rewarded for it!

  • @devil2jz500
    @devil2jz500 Před rokem +51

    A tuner who is an “LS” guy told me that LSs are way more difficult to produce power with a Turbo vs the 2jz he was tuning. He now has a 2jz in his Z. I’m loving the content on the 4.2 Vortec!!!!

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +3

      Thanks bud

    • @RJARRRPCGP
      @RJARRRPCGP Před rokem +2

      @@Calvin-Nelson This is like a large version of a Supra!

    • @devil2jz500
      @devil2jz500 Před rokem +7

      @@jackdaniels2657 not just that, but the in line 6 has a perfect stroke/firing order for turbo applications. That’s why 99% of the 18 wheelers are inline 6 turbo diesel. The way the strokes are distributed in the crankshaft makes it into a smooth boost fed animal.

    • @devil2jz500
      @devil2jz500 Před rokem +2

      @@jackdaniels2657 it is because train and ship Diesel engines have a rev limiter extremely low. Inline 6 has less moving parts, less rotating assembly.

    • @devil2jz500
      @devil2jz500 Před rokem +4

      @@jackdaniels2657 inline 6 has a better powerband.

  • @MonkeyFabGarage
    @MonkeyFabGarage Před rokem +8

    Looking good. Thanks for putting in the hard work on what could be a cool swap. My 5.3 made 620 at 12 ish. So you’re making pretty impressive numbers.

  • @davidschneider7053
    @davidschneider7053 Před rokem +2

    THANK YOU!!!! I have been waiting for someone to really experiment with the 4.2! I always believed that it had real potential.

  • @matthewavdoulos1341
    @matthewavdoulos1341 Před 7 měsíci +4

    these things are so underrated. i had one in my grandpas trailblazer that was handed down to me. it sounded amazing with the 3 inch exhaust me and me dad put on it

  • @slamrahovart9024
    @slamrahovart9024 Před rokem +5

    I have always wanted to make a project with one of these. Nothing nuts. Maybe 450whp- 475 lbs..I love every inline 6 ever. Thanks for showing the potential I always thought these could have

  • @ericbengtson3490
    @ericbengtson3490 Před rokem +6

    That is a lot of power from a built 6 4200. I was waiting to see how much power with that sweet twin setup. God bless you and yours.

  • @3613jeremy
    @3613jeremy Před rokem +13

    I'm blown away I would of never thought a 4200 could push those numbers

    • @kellismith4329
      @kellismith4329 Před 7 měsíci

      Inline 6 in general is underrated, there have been many excellent ones

  • @_..-.._..-.._
    @_..-.._..-.._ Před rokem +6

    I knew from 2002 when I was a freshman in high school that this engine was a beast. It seems the 4200 never got love until Nivlac proved the concept years after it was discontinued.

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +3

      I was starting high school when they went out of production. Wish I could have gotten to them sooner. Lol

  • @LynnTwinCustoms513
    @LynnTwinCustoms513 Před rokem +22

    Very impressive! I think the big reason they are ignored is because not many company’s make parts for these things and I like where your trying to take it

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +23

      Nobody makes parts for them because nobody makes parts for them because nobody makes parts for them because nobody makes parts for them because nobody makes parts for them. We can break this loop.

    • @Low760
      @Low760 Před rokem +5

      @@Calvin-Nelson exactly!

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 Před rokem +1

      2002-2012, then it was scrapped. GM had the LS Based LT in the works along with the LV3 262 V6.
      LS has been in production since 1995/1996-2016, that's 20+ years, and the Gen 5 SBC is LS based.

    • @bearrett50kal17
      @bearrett50kal17 Před rokem

      ​@@Calvin-NelsonI feel the same way about the SOHC VG30/VG33, they're 1000hp capable with the stock block but just not enough aftermarket support to be viable for most people.

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +1

      @@bearrett50kal17 It's a vicious cycle. Lol

  • @charlesdemeary
    @charlesdemeary Před rokem +4

    6:37, guy on the trunks reaction is absolutely priceless 😂😂😂 love the video Calvin.

  • @dameagerbeaver7703
    @dameagerbeaver7703 Před rokem +24

    I approve this message. As a 300ci diehard, my passion comes from just the love of in-line engines. Factory gear timing I nerd out for too. Check out boss 300, 625 whp NA build (1968). Guy building LS heads for the 300ci also, I’m excited to see results. I might convince my friend to drop his LS build and drop this in his E30 just to keep it a I6. Thanks for the video!

  • @thomaslecroy7163
    @thomaslecroy7163 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Ive had a few trailblazers. 4200 is awesome, and new bullet proof at stock as long as you keep fresh oil.

  • @michaelk617
    @michaelk617 Před rokem +5

    Great work as always Calvin. My 05 Envoy with 224K miles still purrs like a kitten. I've converted to 06 coils with your Red, White & Blue kit. One of these days I'll follow some of your tech tips and take my ride from a purr to a growl.

  • @modeverything1
    @modeverything1 Před rokem +8

    Great work! Love seeing what other GM engines can do!

  • @chucke4294
    @chucke4294 Před 10 měsíci

    I had this motor in my 2009 Trail Blazer, which was the last year of the Trail Blazer. It was factory rated at 275HP, and a lot of torque, and that is why I bought it to pull my boat. It was a strong motor, and plenty of power on the highway. It had no problems pulling my boat, and did not have any problems at all with it. I wondered why no one had done any hot rod ding with the motor, but assumed it was for all the computer stuff that no one wanted to mess with at the time. This would make a great motor in like a Chevy ll with a straight stick, as would be a torque monster with headers and the like. With turbos I am thinking the sky is the limit! Great article!

  • @ryanbean3548
    @ryanbean3548 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Dude that’s impressive, I knew they were strong back then but never imagined this , awesome work

  • @richb.4374
    @richb.4374 Před rokem +58

    I'm amazed at how much horsepower you can squeeze out of a Vortec. Who would have thought a grocery getter SUV engine could be such a beast with some boost?

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +8

      Heck yeah. 4 valve to the front.

    • @ironmike742
      @ironmike742 Před rokem +4

      We can make every engine a beast with boost. Nice video and good work

    • @35RSkyline
      @35RSkyline Před rokem

      It is pretty crazy

    • @Thumper68
      @Thumper68 Před rokem +3

      Pretty strong engine stock I think many of us ever owned one probably realized the potential.

    • @patrickrobinson2520
      @patrickrobinson2520 Před rokem +3

      My mother had the engine in a white trailblazer. Aside from being pretty peppy for a monster school bus sized exterior, that engine had so much torque. The transmissions were junk but man, you could pull a house in low gear with the torque. I never thought of boosting one but always thought it would have been a good mustang starter engine over the 4.slow v-6. Sweet power out of that sweet up there. You guys did great.

  • @Bullwinkle056
    @Bullwinkle056 Před rokem +28

    Great stuff! I always wondered why this engine just disappeared after the Trailblazer. When I bought my 2002 TB, there were all sorts of articles about how great an inline six was compared with V6's. I loved the smoothness.

    • @warrenpuckett4203
      @warrenpuckett4203 Před 10 měsíci

      Two cylinders to long to fit in a Silverado or Camaro. Besides cab forward is in style. But wouldn't you just rather have a V-8?
      AS for smooth? Yes. Quiet? Yes. My 2005 T-Blazer needed a tach. Because it was the only indicator the engine was idling.
      Did a real good job of moving the 7 passenger and the 5000+ lbs around on regular gas.

    • @Michael-YTCSAD
      @Michael-YTCSAD Před 9 měsíci +6

      I6 engines started declining because peter puffer CEOs realized that V6 engines (which have no fucking business in performance vehicles) are cheap to make and package well. Too bad they are too stupid to realize that 'cheap to make' and 'packages well' aren't things that should be looked at when designing a flagship sports car (lookin at you Nissan).

  • @patrickbennett3274
    @patrickbennett3274 Před 11 měsíci

    54 yr ago I had a 1969 Pontiac Custom S with an overhead cam I-6.
    Smoothest engine I’ve ever owned.
    After putting about 4K miles on it, I ran Florida to Colorado in record time (for me), like 135mph across boring Kansas.
    Smooth as silk.
    Engine, and transmission, were superb.
    Pontiac made some great cars.
    The 1968 Firebird 400ci V-8 was another one.
    So was suspension, esp at high speed.
    I’ve always loved the I-6 best of all engines.
    Had a 1958 Jeep station wagon 4wd with an L6-226 flathead in
    It. 5” stroke. Torque unbelievable.
    First engine I ever modified was in high school, a 216 ci I-6 in a 1937 Chevy business coupe (0nly a front seat, short and light).
    No oil pressure to crank journals for rods.
    Scoop on big end (hole thru bottom of cap) picked up oil from trough fed by tube from oil pump.
    It all held up with mods though.
    Shaved head and ported and polished, big Rochester carb to replace dinky Carter, set of Corvette 6 cyl exhaust headers (first Corvettes were 6cyl).
    Burnt clutch disks though til I beefed up pressure plate.
    Started my love of 6cyl engines.

  • @AnalogSouI
    @AnalogSouI Před 11 měsíci

    Loved the video. You capture the passion and fun of a true car guy building something for the fun of it. Like that you pulled off something great in a way that was humble and without hype. Made it more fun to watch. Your content is by a true builder for other builders. Keep up the great work.

  • @ryancmbarnes5208
    @ryancmbarnes5208 Před rokem +7

    It is nice to see somebody making horsepower with one of those I wanted to swap one of those into my BMW E36 about 10 years ago but no aftermarket support LOL

  • @corygoins4187
    @corygoins4187 Před rokem +3

    Dude I’m so glad I came across your videos. I’m invested in these engines now. I wanna see more.

  • @smarterthanyou9090
    @smarterthanyou9090 Před rokem

    I watched all of your shout outs. Massive kudos man that is very classy.

  • @aidanmchale425
    @aidanmchale425 Před rokem

    I have a 04 trailblazer and I'm pushing only 350 to the wheels but I always wanted to add a turbo but all of my friends and family always told me it wouldn't hold boost but they where wrong know I'm gonna go all out know. Thank for show us that those motors have true potential. 👍

  • @steventurner476
    @steventurner476 Před rokem +3

    I showed this to my boss (who has been making fun of me for putting money into my 4.2 Atlas for years) and he couldn't believe those numbers! Keep up the great work Cal, I'm a huge fan bro.

  • @MixedGoku
    @MixedGoku Před rokem +4

    This is my dream engine and I can't wait to see what's next !

  • @carloslozada6251
    @carloslozada6251 Před rokem

    no way!! the other day i was just at work looking at one of these thinking why its never been done. cool to see this turbo

  • @ericthatcher3462
    @ericthatcher3462 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I have very often thought about the 4.2 GM DOHC inline 6 as great choice for a vintage mid 30's through 48 Chevy Street rod project and thus keeping the car t rue to it's inline 6 heritage. Even in slightly modified state of tune it would make a sweet running and quick street performer. I'm an inline six fan and have always preferred working on them.

  • @Toyota--Camry
    @Toyota--Camry Před rokem +3

    I can’t believe I hadn’t really known much about this engine before. I knew of the L52 and LLR but I had no idea there was an I6 Atlas, and it’s insane!!

  • @meca13b
    @meca13b Před rokem +3

    Congrats guys ! Been following since day 1 Hard to beat a 4.2 vortec

  • @OoheavysackoO
    @OoheavysackoO Před 6 měsíci +1

    Props to the dude sitting in the hatch to help the dyno numbers. More brave than I am lol, super neat build.

  • @xm3ntal620
    @xm3ntal620 Před rokem +2

    Nice build man. Like you said these things seem like huge underdogs that are being overlooked

  • @ChrisCookAuto
    @ChrisCookAuto Před rokem +9

    Heck yeah!! For my application I would need a full custom oil pan, engine mounts, intake and exhaust manifolds. Seriously considering the 4200 over an Ls swap

  • @boostedgringo5885
    @boostedgringo5885 Před rokem +11

    Awesome work to all involved. Adding another oddball engine for gear heads to play with is what makes this so cool!!!

  • @stanhart705
    @stanhart705 Před 11 měsíci +1

    My Buddy of 50+ years has a 4200 for a few years now.
    As you say, had to make most everything. Intake/injector and exhaust/turbo manifold . Oil pan, steel bell housing, flywheel and 6 speed stick.
    This is in a 40's Studebaker pick up.
    Daily driver.
    The long block was a drop out, just cleaned up.
    10psi or so and 500+.
    I told the dyno guy to get the dyno calibrated at first.
    They are a sleeper engine.
    Hasn't even been turned well, it drives too good

  • @KCadbyRacing
    @KCadbyRacing Před 11 měsíci

    I love the sound of six bangers 😍
    I know youngsters love flames, pops and bangs but since I (and most older bike owners) hate popping on deceleration I learned to remove fuel
    in the hard deceleration, high vacuum area of the map = zero pops, bangs or flames...

  • @joeyh7817
    @joeyh7817 Před rokem +7

    Great video as always!
    I just picked up a 02 4200 for my mother's 04 trailblazer and noticed they have a oil level/temp sensor probably going to wire that into a buzzer just for security.
    Planning my own 4200 swap after this 4200 replacement.

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +5

      Sweet. It's dangerous to go alone. Take this: sites.google.com/view/vortec4200wiki/home

    • @joeyh7817
      @joeyh7817 Před rokem +1

      @@Calvin-Nelson thanks!
      I'm extremely impressed with how sorted out everything is.
      Very valuable information.

    • @RJARRRPCGP
      @RJARRRPCGP Před rokem +2

      @@Calvin-Nelson LOL, I remember that sentence from the old school!

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před rokem +2

      @@RJARRRPCGP I figured someone would know. Lol

  • @leejenkins3193
    @leejenkins3193 Před rokem +3

    I think people are going to be snapping these engines up now! Great job!

    • @bk2life
      @bk2life Před 8 měsíci

      that didnt pan out too well

  • @hydrothermalworm7778
    @hydrothermalworm7778 Před rokem

    I've always wanted to do a build on the GM straight 6! Glad to see it do so well!

  • @bryondieter3285
    @bryondieter3285 Před 11 měsíci

    Wow! Beautiful work guys! This is awesome!

  • @ripnsoar
    @ripnsoar Před rokem +13

    These engines seem really powerful for the size

    • @3nigma379
      @3nigma379 Před rokem +1

      Some later 4.2s were making 297hp stock

  • @eddieburke8987
    @eddieburke8987 Před rokem +6

    I worked at a GMC dealership in the mid 2000's. I got to work on the GMC Envoy and really fell in love with this engine. I spoke to a GM engineer about the idea of bringing back the Typhoon through the Envoy Turbocharging the 4200 in an AWD model. He said it wasn't worth considering. Maybe the 5.3, but not the 4200. It couldn't handle it. I saw the potential in this inline motor. I'm so happy to see you guys proved this engine could build big power.

  • @matthewvalentine3549
    @matthewvalentine3549 Před rokem

    Finally someone did it. Thank u. Great build

  • @monkeybarmonkeyman
    @monkeybarmonkeyman Před rokem +26

    Depending on that engine's dimensions... it could be one heckuva sleeper for any number of older 4/6 cylinder cars. What's great for you guys is you now know the engine very well... hit the track with 80% power then dial it up when absolutely needed. All the best for the upcoming races!

    • @andrewnelson3733
      @andrewnelson3733 Před rokem +1

      We'll be hitting the track at low boost soon and dial it up over the next month.

    • @monkeybarmonkeyman
      @monkeybarmonkeyman Před rokem

      @@andrewnelson3733 We're all looking forward to it! Waylon Wire (on CZcams) has an older box truck, six cylinder. It would be great to see if one of these AB's could be built for long-term solid torque monster use as well as what you've done with them here.

    • @Robo-xk4jm
      @Robo-xk4jm Před rokem +1

      idk exact dimensions but big reason why they stopped these is because its so damn long being an i6, even on chassis its meant for really gotta reach in there to change last sparkplug

    • @THEFERMANATOR
      @THEFERMANATOR Před rokem +1

      @@Robo-xk4jm and they're fairly tall, especially with the stock intake that goes up over the valve cover. I looked in to swapping out a 4.0l out of my Jeep for one, but the dimensions I found put it almost 6 inches taller at the valve cover. That would be fine in a wrangler, but not for my Comanche pickup. The 4.0l with a little work can make in the 250-260 range, but starting at 270, and going up sure would be nice.

  • @whiskeyniner6416
    @whiskeyniner6416 Před rokem +5

    I like the LS engines, but this 4200 build is definitely interesting.
    Great work.

  • @neilf.7222
    @neilf.7222 Před 6 měsíci

    I have a vortec 4200 and always loved sound it makes at high revs 😎

  • @j.d.8111
    @j.d.8111 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Boosted Atlas 4.2 and part availability has been a dream of mine for almost 20 years. Then the waste gate opens, im sticky it ain't gear oil. 2 things wrong still no aftermarket, and i gotta see a Dr. The unseen potential of this beast of an engine. Thank you for making this.

    • @Calvin-Nelson
      @Calvin-Nelson  Před 6 měsíci

      Aftermarket is getting better and better.

  • @andrewjames2569
    @andrewjames2569 Před rokem +12

    I have an sbc swapped Chevy S10 but it started rod knocking shortly after the build. I kinda want to do something newer and different instead of LS swapping, I think a boosted 4200 might be the way to go. Thanks for the inspiration and information.

    • @kevinjokipii4260
      @kevinjokipii4260 Před 10 měsíci +3

      If the 4200 is too long to fit in the S10, there's always the LV3 4300 that came out in 2014 as the base Silverado engine.

  • @dickgoesinya4773
    @dickgoesinya4773 Před rokem +14

    A straight 6 is probably the best engine

  • @BrandonnBike
    @BrandonnBike Před 7 měsíci

    What makes these great is they are naturally balanced. I bought an 07 envoy for this powerplant.

  • @IamJ007
    @IamJ007 Před 2 měsíci

    That 03 4.2 is a tank and takes a beatin. At 190k miles, no smoke, and still gets it on the interstate. Love that motor.

  • @pcx4545
    @pcx4545 Před rokem +4

    I remember having read a car magazine several years ago when those inline six were new and the guy that wrote the column says that the GM engineers basically copied a Supra engine and made it bigger

  • @bobmotherfuckinsmith3089
    @bobmotherfuckinsmith3089 Před rokem +26

    That's DOHC 4 valve, super balanced crankshaft, as long as the block casting is strong enough it'll make the 2jz a all but forgotten swap. I'm telling ya, as long as it's all balanced and you got the right set up it'll smoke a ls and a 2j.

    • @SoulRoot
      @SoulRoot Před 11 měsíci +1

      well yea it's a 2.5- or 3.0-litre VS 4.6 of muscle lol

    • @fadedsoul23
      @fadedsoul23 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Then I’ll make it a billet block, bore and stroke it, balance it, and boost it to the moon

    • @bobmotherfuckinsmith3089
      @bobmotherfuckinsmith3089 Před 11 měsíci

      Those 4200s are sooo slept on.

    • @bobmotherfuckinsmith3089
      @bobmotherfuckinsmith3089 Před 11 měsíci +1

      The thing is after market support, and the price per hp, availability in the US is very important. To touch a junkyard 2j or Rb you're already at or above 3k, an LS 2k, Lm7 600, a 4200 is between 4 to 600 for a running engine, it's superior to a 2j in almost every way

    • @fadedsoul23
      @fadedsoul23 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@bobmotherfuckinsmith3089I’ll have to see about finding one, I’m sure a billet 4200 could handle some big power

  • @codywalter1136
    @codywalter1136 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Good to see my home track on youtube!

  • @90FF1
    @90FF1 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Awesome! After this video, I bet there was a run on salvage yards for 4.2s.

  • @crebbsjd
    @crebbsjd Před rokem +3

    OMG!!!!! That was awesome!!!! This is very impressive and so inspiring to us other car folk. Please keep doing what you all are doing. I love the inline 6. Yes, call them out!! We can do more. The automotive industry needs to do more. All the billions of dollars the big three have been given of all of our taxpayers money. Why have real car men and women not been able to make changes and influence things more. You are right, we could do more and have way more awesome engines and after marketing support form all of the cars, trucks, engines, and all other parts. I am so stoked to do some work on my slant 6 one of these days now.

  • @evdawg7757
    @evdawg7757 Před rokem +7

    As a technician and not ever having to open up a 4200, I've always heard nightmare stories. After seeing this specifically NOT in a trailblazer im less intimidated. And suddenly very curious looking at a pile of used turbos 🤣

    • @warrenpuckett4203
      @warrenpuckett4203 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Still waiting since 2004. Got only 200,000 miles on it. No oil leaks. Happens when you change the oil at less the recommended intervals and pay attention to the coolant too.
      BUT working on any thing under the hood is a major pain. The spark plugs are kinda sorta easy. After you remove the beauty cover.

    • @dogdue4588
      @dogdue4588 Před 7 měsíci

      Awesome! Got one for a 3800?

    • @dogdue4588
      @dogdue4588 Před 7 měsíci

      @@warrenpuckett4203 Yup! Coolant is very important. The 3 vehicles I hot-rod have 160° thermostats. Forgot...and new radiators!

  • @stephenhood2948
    @stephenhood2948 Před rokem

    That is really neat!! Ive never saw anyone build on of the inline Vortecs and have always thought the 260/280 Zs were really sweet looking cars!! Unrelated story, my father bought a brand new 280Z in 1978. I was 7 years old at the time. He had literally just bought the car that week, it had under a 100 miles on it. I really was trying to be helpful when I began "washing" the hood with a really stiff wire brush. Luckily he came outside and saw me straight mangling the paint on the hood of his brand new Datsun, he was not happy about it. A few weeks later I was in the car playing around with it. I turned the key with the car in gear and drove it through the gate in the fence around our back yard. Didnt do tremendous damage, but that was a really nice looking car and I didnt do it any favors.

  • @jeremiahpage
    @jeremiahpage Před rokem

    I daily a 03 trailblazer with the 4200. It surprises Alot of people. 52mph in 1st, 94mph in 2nd, buried speedo in 3rd. I've been contemplating a 100 shot of nos to help get off the line.

  • @kenavguy
    @kenavguy Před rokem +3

    I’m a Ford guy with my 92’ Fox but gotta say, impressive and considering future options! That’s just bad a$$!

    • @_..-.._..-.._
      @_..-.._..-.._ Před rokem +2

      You could always import a barra 4.0 from down under if you wanna stay 100% FoMoCo.

  • @martinrutherford4562
    @martinrutherford4562 Před rokem +15

    I would be happy with a stock 4200 and transmission combo for my old 67 c-10

    • @joeyh7817
      @joeyh7817 Před rokem +4

      I've thought about this exact setup.
      You could retain cruise control.
      I know in the early years 02-05
      The engine and transmission harness are one and the ECM/TCM bolts to the side of the stock intake.
      A bundle of wires about the thickness of a quarter run from the engine wiring harness into the fuse box.

    • @danielgrajeda5837
      @danielgrajeda5837 Před rokem +2

      After watching this video, may consider this little monster for my 67 C-10 as well

    • @_..-.._..-.._
      @_..-.._..-.._ Před rokem +2

      Damn near 300hp in stock form. Excellent for an older vehicle with an O/D trans so you can cruise on the freeway. Probably get half decent mileage too.

    • @_..-.._..-.._
      @_..-.._..-.._ Před rokem +3

      Also, it’s an all-aluminum motor, major weight savings over a BB v8

  • @DaveWrightKB9MNM
    @DaveWrightKB9MNM Před 11 měsíci

    Had an '06 Tralblazer with the 4200. I loved that engine! Just sock it was torquie!

  • @BigDipper907
    @BigDipper907 Před 10 měsíci

    Wow I didn’t even kno GM made an inline 6 that’s crazy!! Well I gotta subscribe now n binge watch and see what it’s all about. Looks bad ass!! Can’t wait to see how n where it goes 🏁

  • @hydrocarbon8272
    @hydrocarbon8272 Před rokem +34

    The power numbers really hit me when you showed the cam numbers. That's less lift than any stock LS cam & same duration as an L92, but then again 4 valves do flow a lot better than 2. 2JZ & Barra guys have to be a bit annoyed, especially when you consider how easy it is to adapt a 4l80e, th400, or glide. Similar power & sound for a whole lot less.
    To be fair to the LS, it's also a lot cheaper for a TBSS intake, Holley oil pan, and stock coils than a custom-fabbed intake & oil pan and aftermarket coils.

    • @andrewnelson3733
      @andrewnelson3733 Před rokem +12

      70 years after going out of production people are buying flatheads. Folks who like straight 6s will love the video. Guys who don't have an open mind d will not see merits in any platform except the one they love. The days of the $100 LSs are eclipsing. The car scene is still fun. The next platform is still waiting to be fun...did I mention the car scene is still fun

    • @6226superhurricane
      @6226superhurricane Před rokem +3

      why would barra guys be annoyed they're cheap and they make more power. and there's already adapters for any transmission you'd want to run behind one if you exceed the limits of the zf 6 speed.

    • @andrewnelson3733
      @andrewnelson3733 Před rokem

      @@6226superhurricane most won't get jammed up. But there are more then a few haters who have commented

    • @MB1Billion
      @MB1Billion Před rokem +3

      How about the Mercedes Benz Diesel Inline 6 Engine? The OM606 Engine.

    • @Brettj77
      @Brettj77 Před rokem +1

      @@6226superhurricane exactly, guys are making those numbers on ex taxi non turbo barra engines with 800000km on them

  • @rocsti5402
    @rocsti5402 Před rokem +4

    It's crazy I just realized the potential of these motors last month and it was so random seeing a junkyard post with a trailblazer "l6" I was like a straight 6 , 4.2? I never heard of? Why? And now it's all I think about and am mad I wasn't a year easier fuckkkk

  • @poot111111
    @poot111111 Před rokem +2

    I always wondered about the upper limits of this engine and why no one or manufactures built one. Good luck, take my sub!

  • @stevennelson2055
    @stevennelson2055 Před rokem

    This is great. I knew there had to be other cheap motors that could do great with a little boost. This would be perfect for one of my projects

  • @crazyfoot490
    @crazyfoot490 Před rokem +6

    what you guys have done is incredible. I can't wait to see the little Datsun in action.

  • @peanutgallery0078
    @peanutgallery0078 Před rokem +4

    This just might be the ultimate motor for an insane low budget but red hot sand car to embarrass all the $300k LS fluff out there these days! 👀 😎

  • @realalexesparza
    @realalexesparza Před rokem +1

    I bought a 07 Trailblazer 4x4 with a rod knock. It took me a good long while to source all the parts and lots of unexpected TTY bolts everywhere, and rethreading head bolt threads on the block deck. But, after all that, the thing puts a grin on my face at WOT at 5k rpm and up. It's a cool motor.
    Normally, I would steer away from a GM, but I like this motor.

    • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
      @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Před rokem

      the transmission probably doesn't like 5K rpm though - I got a reman transmission but sometimes I still do 5K. The highest torque peak is actually 3600 rpm.

  • @brentheilman8910
    @brentheilman8910 Před rokem +1

    I believe its the Straight 6 configuration. Straight 6 has 3 balance (firing) points in a 360 degree rotation while v8 has 4. I love inline 6 engines.

  • @Jordy-927
    @Jordy-927 Před rokem +3

    I honestly love inline 6 engines.
    Nothing growls like a good V8, but I can't help but love I-6 engines like the ford 300 for example.
    So glad you chose this engine. It is a very pretty engine too. I've seen a few in hot rods now. They can be "oldified" very well too.

  • @shrimpcomminup
    @shrimpcomminup Před rokem +8

    I've always told my bros that I wanted to take the motor out of my trailblazer and put it in a race car. I can tell that they have a lot of potential

  • @sierravmax
    @sierravmax Před rokem

    This is getting real interesting as I just watched a video on Facebook of a 5.3 swapped Colorado putting down 830whp through a 4l80e and only on 18lbs of boost.

  • @ls1chevy2
    @ls1chevy2 Před rokem +2

    As a trailblazer, S10 and Blazer owner I love the I6 I always wish somebody would start putting out performance parts for them good job thank you....

    • @brianwesley28
      @brianwesley28 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I drove a 2002 TrailBlazer LTZ for many years. I sure do miss that 4.2.

  • @thewraith6360
    @thewraith6360 Před rokem +17

    Its wild how much power its making with such little boost gotta love that 4v per cyl design. I think a set of forged pistons along with the rods you added would help this thing comfortably make 1000 wheel, which is pretty crazy given how stock this engine is. 2jz guys usually need billet mains, aftermarket cams, and ARP hardware all over to make that happen through an unlocked auto.

    • @danielcarroll5667
      @danielcarroll5667 Před rokem +6

      Just watched a video of a 2jz teardown on one that was run somewhat hard at Bonneville last year , it had every "unobtanium" part in it money could buy & it was hurt , I realize this is not a comparison but I think it shows the potential of this motor to be every bit a worthy alternative .

    • @danielwilliams214
      @danielwilliams214 Před rokem +2

      There have been 1000hp unopened 2js

    • @thewraith6360
      @thewraith6360 Před rokem +2

      @@danielwilliams214 Not through an unlocked auto lol maybe a manual but thats like a 100hp difference between an unlocked auto. Also you usually need head studs and valvesprings atleast to even attempt more than 600 wheel with one through an auto. So idk what you mean by unopened but thats not unopened lol

    • @I_Build_Cars
      @I_Build_Cars Před rokem +1

      I’ve personally made 1100+ on an unopened 2jzge, with easily 60+ 1/8 runs no issues.

    • @thewraith6360
      @thewraith6360 Před rokem

      @@I_Build_Cars post proof all i see is a "sbe" with everything done to it that makes 730whp and thats not "unopened." Basically what i already said, cammed,, springs, arp hardware, etc...

  • @4BillC
    @4BillC Před rokem +3

    You know every time I watch one of your videos on the I6 Atlas I get mad at myself for selling my GMC Canyon that had the 3.5L Atlas. I wanted to turbo it but didn't think it would hold, so I sold it and got a car that came stock with a turbo and been modifying that...

    • @OOICU812
      @OOICU812 Před rokem +2

      I think we all have a story about the car/truck that we wish we had never sold. 😀

    • @4BillC
      @4BillC Před rokem +1

      @@OOICU812 absolutely!

    • @EdBoi18
      @EdBoi18 Před rokem

      @@OOICU812 Lol that's why I haven't sold shit that I have. Even though my first car has absolutely driven me to fits of cursing somewhat frequently, I still have it...up on cinder blocks of course 😂🤣

  • @371matto
    @371matto Před rokem

    Love this! Definitely want this to spread!

  • @CarmeloAlbino
    @CarmeloAlbino Před 11 měsíci

    I'm really impressed you made that much power on that power boost

  • @EdBoi18
    @EdBoi18 Před rokem +12

    Now this is some cool shit! I know there seems to be a lot of people doing stuff with the 3.5/3.7L inline 5 which is just this engine minus one cylinder. What do you think of the 5 cylinder? I've been considering getting my hands on a Camaro and seeing if I can shoehorn in the 5 cylinder with a turbo or two.

    • @adamcnow
      @adamcnow Před rokem +2

      3.7L in-line 5 this would awesome for H3! 👍

    • @IvyMike551
      @IvyMike551 Před rokem +1

      They are one of the best sounding engines out there.. have a 3.7 in my Colorado Xtreme.

    • @twiitchish
      @twiitchish Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@adamcnow H3 came with this engine as a base. 2004-2012 canyon/Colorado/H3

    • @adamcnow
      @adamcnow Před 11 měsíci

      @@twiitchish yes H3’s came with 5 cylinders only, not 6 cylinders. Oh, and Alpha V8. Be awesome to see if someone could build a turbo on a 5 cylinder H3.