Strategy Tips & Tricks I How To Play Par 4s I Golf Monthly
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2018
- ► In the first of a three part series, Neil Tappin receives strategy advice from Graeme McDowell's coach, Clive Tucker on how to play par 4s
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Clive is such a gentleman!
Very useful and educational. Both of you are fine gentlemen. The way everyone should play this game. We’ll done, thank you.
What a quality Gent Clive Tucker is, Well done Neil on a great Vlog with such a great bloke.
Awesome video. I have found recently in my own play the importance of strategy and course management in lowering your scores. I think this is as helpful, or moreso, than technique a lot of times considering most amateurs can't practice as often as they would like. More videos like this are always welcomed!
Breaking news - 5 handicap is NOT the average golfer.
What a great course lesson. Enjoyed it very much.
Love these videos!!!! I'm going to take this thinking on course. Straight forward advice and sensible :)
Wish I knew where the ball was going and how far and could just focus on course management and strategy.
Great advice from Clive. Neil, if you can hit a green from 270 yards, with a 3 iron, then you are a bandit playing off 5.
love those new mizuno caps!
yup playing lessons are great.
Hey Neil, love the new series, great work. I’m 18 handicap, for me the 1st hole would be 7 or 8 iron to take out right hand bunkers, wedge on, 2 putt, net birdie, marvellous!!!! Would be nice to have a higher handicapper in the videos, but probably not that good for your stats. Keep up the good work, awesome 3 iron off the 1st tee
Very sensible! I will forever struggle to avoid the temptation to go for that green!
I'm new to golf and was looking forward to some useful info I can take to the course, but surely this is stating the bleeding obvious? And having watched a few of these 'strategy' videos they all seem to assume we can all hit the ball exactly were we want to. Well Here's my golden nugget: avoid hazards and spend nearly all of your practice time on your short game. If this video demonstrates anything it's that having a great short game will get you ot of trouble when you are off target.
That first hole felt more like a lesson in what not to do. Neil's 'lay-up' brought the bunkers into play (although he avoided them) and left him with a pitch length he wasn't comfortable with. Surely a lay-up strategy here would have been 170 (short of the trouble), then 100 (full, stress-free 56 degree wedge)?
Some great insights from Clive, thank you Sir. I think Neil must be "playing for the camera" - no way a 5 hcp doesn't know how far his irons go on full, 3/4 and half swing etc. Thanks for the video, interesting ideas to take away.
Some good tip there, thanks
I've been using the Lee Travino stategy since a young lad. Also alot of Gary Player's strategy. This is a solid video.
Great videos these , I enjoy Neil and Joel’s tips , I gotta ask though , Neil how do you get to 5 handicap without knowing your wedge full,3/4 and 1/2 shots , you will be scratch easily with a little distance control on your wedges .
Nice video. Good advice. That being said watching 2 low handicap golfers playing these holes has predictable results. Why not slip in a 12 handicapper or 2 for good measure.
Great Content
a 275 yard 3-iron?!
the 1st hole is a great example of why distance to the green is hardly the sole factor or even the most important factor in determining how easy a hole is. From the flyover you can see how narrow the green is, and how there are 4 bunkers guarding the front and front sides of the green, trees hard on each side and a cart-path with an open space behind the green. But again the center of the green is 271 yards from the tee they're playing.
Question: can you accurately put a shot 225+ almost directly down the center of the fairway? Yes or no? If not then you're just likely to hit into trouble going for the green. Your "birdie opportunity" is hitting short and left of the green but not so far left that you'd have to play through or around the trees guarding the left side of the green. Basically 200 yds off the tee and 75 yds to the green. This is a classic "more risk than reward" hole in terms of going for the green off the tee..
I don't think the average golfer can hit a 3 iron 270 yards
But i can and i'm only 6 years old, is that good?
everyone crapping on the fact the ball ended up in the bunker, but the bounce was ridiculous. The ball landed right in the middle of the fairway.
Er because he was talking about laying up short of the trouble then hit a club that reached it, bad bounce or not !
it's not where the ball lands that matters, it's where it stops
@@touristguy87 Exactly. If there was water in front of the green you wouldn't hit a club that could reach it unless you're an idiot
If you're going to bring the fairway bunkers into play you might as well knock it over them and bring the greenside bunkers in to play instead.
The lay up would be a 5 or 6 iron and leave yourself 100 in... But then it's easy to type and harder to do!
How do I smash a 350 yd drive then chip to 18” for birdie on all the par 4s at my club? Tx
Great tips. 😎👍
Thanks! 👍
Funny old game is Golf. With all due respect, Im intrigued as to how a 5HC struggles - or has doubts over a 50 yard pitch. Im a 12HC and feel pretty confident from that range. Neil, Id love to know what you feel your strength are?
@JP - I would say my ball striking has always been the strength in my game. As I started to get better at golf as a youngster, my short game suffered while I was competing under pressure. Basically, what i am saying is that I'm not as confident in my short game!
Golf Monthly thanks for the reply 👍🏻👍🏻
dang......a 270 yard 3-iron? dang
The average amateur isn't a 5 HCP either
neither was his next go at 12. Average is 16 UK.
18:46 of course there's a greenskeeper mowing that dried-out fairway
The problem here on the 2nd shot is very simple. Getting the ball over the ditch without spinning it into the trees left and right-front of the green and you really REALLY don't want to slice out to the right. Again it's a long shot to the green through a narrow lane bordered by trees, with the pin all the way in the back of the green, no less, and the green is a good 6ft up. But this course is so dry it's like playing on dirt and I'd really wonder why they even bother playing it. Still it will be interesting to see how much they fuck up this approach shot.
I’m one of those guys if it’s drivable I’m taking my chances. If I lay up there’s no guarantee I’m pure the layup. I’d rather chip then rely on hitting it to a perfect layup
You should get a free drop for the bounce on the first shot. That was ridiculous. Middle of fairway to a right hand bunker in one bounce.
Why lay up to 70 yards short of the green where there's a bunker? There's no point complaining about the bounce when you end up in there. Lay up to 100-110, whatever's a full wedge.
Exactly... who needs a driver, a 275 yd 3 iron? WTF
BOB Gilbert my thought exactly. It was 271 to the front; that would be a driver for me!
It is a links course with dry ground. That makes for a roll on of 50 yards. If you hit a three iron and you land our 7 at 150 you would hit it to land it at 190 with 50 yards roll makes 220. This is very average.
@@marcvanderbilt9324 west hill is in land course
The best tip of all is to NEVER let your competition read your putts for you!!!
left edge?... broke 2 foot left :D
Stop calling HCP 5 players „average amateurs“... makes me feel inferior... 😎
Sorry Tom!!
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Yeah... nah. Split the distances. 1st hole, 2x 7i would be just as effective here for a high handicapper
My name
It name is Kenneth tucker
Right bunker is in play and not comfortable with the distance left, that strategy...
Questions. 1:38 no idea what he was saying, never seen a par 4 under 300 yards, and why is all the grass dead?
It hardly rained at all in the UK between the end of May and start of August
Golf Monthly I’ve never heard of a golf course without sprinklers. Is that a European thing? I’ve never seen a brown/dead golf course before. I’m from the US, and all golf courses are kept green year round (except in snowy regions of course).
yeah, yeah, ye, ye.....ye
"You popped in early and gave yourself a good lie.." 1st rule of golf: Play the ball as it lies.
Agree. Was disappointed he improved his lie.
Not a good strategy video for high handicappers. A tour player and a low handicapper who can hit a ball where he wants it to go.
he's a 5 handicapper who dosnt know the distances of his wedges with a half swing... wtf
with weird half backswing
Bunkers at 180 and 200 and you pick a 190 carry club? What kind of nonsense is that? If you're going lay up, do a proper layup about 170, take all bunkers out of play and you got an easy 100 in. That was horrible course management.
Playing safe off the tee and straight into the bunker. I stopped watching after that. Sorry.
By the way the audio was very poor.
Its a pity because he then nailed the bunker shot.
Yeah, so you missed his super bunker shot and drained putt for the sandy birdie. He's played in 5 Open's and has a hoganesque tucked right elbow, he's no mug.
Agreed, taistyveg you are an idiot
He makes a good point actually
That first T shot was ridiculous. Spends 10 minutes talking about why people should play smart and lay up to avoid the trouble than hits a club that bounces straight in the bunker leaving one of the hardest shots in golf hahahahaha.
Golf is not a game of perfect, you have to strategize as best as possible then take what comes. Links golf especially. The way he kicked into the bunker but the way he dealt with that bad break is probably the most valuable lesson in this video.
Same thing happened to me one day. My English buddy looked at me and said " Golf is a fickle lady". Whenever I hit the perfect shot and that happens, I say it out loud. Then I play on.
It's funny when people try and rip on somebody or make fun of them, but don't know the difference between then and than...😂
oh dear
@@Karl_with_a_K Dealt with it by giving himself a good lie by moving the ball.
That has to be the worst tips, i've ever heard from a pro!! He never truly answered any major questions Those who can't play......teach. Teach like a fake!!
I’m one of those guys if it’s drivable I’m taking my chances. If I lay up there’s no guarantee I’m pure the layup. I’d rather chip then rely on hitting it to a perfect layup