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- A major humanitarian group has just come out with a lesson plan for high school students on sexism in video games. It is full of propaganda, vilifies gaming and gamers, and is likely to discourage young women from playing. Does this matter, or is it all just a game? AEI resident scholar Christina Hoff Sommers explains.
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“Is Gaming A Boy’s Club?” is the name of a school lesson plan developed by the Anti-Defamation League-ADL for short. The ADL is a well-respected organization that has fought anti-Semitism and racism for decades. As a long-time admirer of the ADL, I am baffled by its sponsorship of such a biased and dogmatic curriculum. The lesson plan advertises itself as meeting standards for inclusion in the Common Core-an influential national curriculum. The entire lesson plan is dedicated to the proposition that video games are a hotbed of sexism and misogyny, and it gives students the message that anyone who dares to suggest that games should be more inclusive can expect to be terrorized by malevolent gamers. Lesson materials include a video and an article by feminist critic Anita Sarkeesian-both are harsh indictments of the world of gaming. That would be fine if she were not the only assigned author. In another part of the lesson plan, the teacher places seven posters around the room-each bearing a statement about video games. Students are then told to attach Post-Its to those they agree with. Three are neutral-for example: “I have played video games” and “I have watched other people play video games.” But four are affirmations about sexism: “I have witnessed sexism in video games,” “I believe video games can perpetuate sexism.” None says anything positive about games-such as, “Gaming is an exciting activity for both women and men,” or “Sexism in video games is exaggerated.”The curriculum also includes a small group discussion on sexism and video games and “additional resources” that focus on-guess what?-- harassment, misogyny, and terror in the culture of video games. The curriculum is not only obsessively one-sided-much it is false, misleading, or exaggerated. Let’s start with the very first sentence. “Video games do not have a good track record when it comes to positively including girls and women.” But on page 3 of the curriculum students learn that women now constitute 48 percent of video game players-up from 40 percent in 2010. An important study has shown that there has been a major demographic shift in the video game industry toward the inclusion of women, but men and women prefer to play different types of games. The world of games is rich and diverse and there is room for everyone. Why give young women the discouraging message that they are not wanted? What about the idea that video games-especially those most popular with men-- perpetuate sexism? The lesson plan promotes this idea, yet offers no evidence. The fact is, as video games have thrived in the U.S., so have women’s freedoms and opportunities and participation in sports and games. As I have said in an earlier videos on gaming, gender critics have to show, not dogmatically assume, that video games make men sexist and unjust-or hold women back in some way. They have not even tried to meet burden of proof. Finally, what about the claim that when women criticize video games, they receive abusive messages or even threats. Unfortunately, this is sometimes true. Feminist critics have received threats, and that’s deplorable. But what the ADL fails to mention is that no one knows who sent them-and males (and females) who challenge the feminist critique receive them too. Milo Yianappoulos, a British writer who defends gamers from the charge of sexism received a letter that contained dead mouse impaled by a razor blade.
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Them in the past: Games will make you a violent mass murder!
Me as a child: I just want to play video games.
Them now: Games will make you a sexist racist!
Me as an adult: I just want to play video games.
Them later: YOU CAAAAAAN'T
Them in the future: Don't even.
Me in the Future: I even.
Them in the future: Games will make you [a very bad thing]
Me as an old man: I just want to play video games.
Jeffery Liggett Them in the grimdarkness of the far future: "YOU CAN'T THERE IS ONLY WAR"
You as corpse: {Turning over}
Hobo knifed
Those people just can't even.
"Is Gaming a boy's club?"
Nope.
Nein.
No.
Nee.
Jo.
Voch.
Deyil
Ne
Nee
Hell no.
Fuck no?
HI matt. I just got back from your video on GG and the industry. Good work, but you came off a little harsh in the end. :p
I believe this can be summed up by Betteridge's Law of Headlines: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."
You missed いいえ.
no "nyet"? disappoint, comrad
First I was a Satanist.
Then I was a mass murderer.
And now I'm a misogynist.
And why? Because I like video games.
You are a political scapegoat, mate.
You had me at Satanist.
Don't forget that we'll always be mentally ill
And that all of us are anti social
Now we’re back to mass murderer
Where did this this massive fear mongering of sexism in gaming come from? As long as I can remember, if a girl played video games, it was a very desirable trait among all of my male friends. If a girl plays online, it's very likely people will want to help her out and team up with her, or give her special items, etc. My first girlfriend actually loved games just as much as I did and it was great, she'd been a hardcore gamer for years and hadn't faced much opposition for it. There's the occasional idiot on Xbox live who says "get back in the kitchen" but we all know they're just.....well, idiots, or bad trolls. Still, getting called a "small-dick faggot who can't get pussy who lives in his mom's basement" isn't all too nice either, but I just can't take those people seriously.
You'll hear the name mentioned in the video.
I don't get it either, to be honest. I suspect for most of these women who are finding strife online, it's less to do with their gender and a whole heck of a lot more to do with their attitude.
I'm not victim-blaming (oh yay, another fashionably tumblry term, how grand) but... Honestly, when you approach a situation already in the mindset that you're gonna get shat on, and you react like you're about to get shat on even when people originally had no intention to shit on you...
... Well, eventually, you're going to find shit. One way or another. Even if you have to dig for it. Isn't it just LOVELY how these people are proposing we teach children to prematurely look for shit and be uber defensive about it? Why, I don't see a problem with this at all! This can't possibly lead to manufactured conflicts! /end sarcasm
Thank you guys for the great comments. This just never seemed like the epidemic they're painting it as currently. I've been following this whole fiasco for a few months now and wondered, was Anita the mother of this whole sexism in gaming hysteria? Or was there some talk of this before her? Because no one I know brought this issue up, ever; and I can definitely see the money in it for people like Anita.
Girl gamers that I know never made this big of a deal about it, a lot of them just didn't care. Often, harassment in games is just plain old harassment, not a gendered issue.
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There may have been some talk about it before, but Anita was the one who popularized it. She did a series of videos called Troupes vs girls(or women i cant remember) and took everything out of context. From there people started to find out she was full of shit, and even exposed her as such. However she used this as an excuse to say she is being attacked over the interwebs. 1000 intelligent, insightful, polite comments/criticisms to the 1 troll saying they will find her at her house and stab her in the butt. Yet somehow that 1 in a 1000 comments is the norm for her, and she has to fear for her life because of the threat made to her ass.
From there she takes her handful of troll comments and trouts them out on stage like a circus act to garner even more sympathy and money from her now devote audience. "Here it is, proof of the hate of women in gaming/interwebs" Despite the fact that men face just as much trolling as women, its only a problem when it happens to women. Also men apparently dont need to fear for their life when they get threatened, however any woman who is even remotely threatened needs to call the police.
Theosis10 I do remember seeing that video where she took the Hitman gameplay out of context and well as a handful of cherry picked instances. I definitely thought that was quite ridiculous and dishonest. The more I find out about this woman the more I just shake my head lol
"Violent games promote real life violence." - Disproven
"Violent-against-women games promote real life violence against women." - Believed by thousands
Hundreds of thousands*
*****
I will only say this...
If we don't think the media, books, movies, music, video games affect behavior... why do we have so many children's books like "How the Grinch Stole Christmas"? Isn't much of childhood literature and movies dedicated to affecting the attitudes and behaviors of children?
I'm not saying they do or don't influence behavior... I'm just saying we seem to think they will, or there wouldn't be so many preachy stories directed at children.
Hiraghm
They do affect behaviour in children, which may be why violent things are given age ratings. When one gets older, one learns to differentiate reality from fantasy. One learns that one can enjoy violence in media, but that real life violence is nothing to be happy about.
Valosken
Let's be accurate here... things are given age ratings because people with influence *think* they affect the behavior of children.
Valosken There IS actually a correlation between violent games and violent thoughts/behaviour, but it isn't nearly as extreme as many people think. Ss with everything, it's caused by a myriad of factors, and games alone won't make you violent, especially if you are over 9 years old.
Some females (not even feminists) are hurting their own gender. I am OBSESSED with DOTA 2. I've been playing it since 2006 when it was merely a mod from Warcraft. I've never heard any male saying "DOTA is a male game". They even invited me to play with them. They actually love to have a female on their team and would say things like "the girls in our team are badass!" and stuff like that. I used to have LAN parties with my male classmates and now I still play online with my male friends. The only times I heard "DOTA is a male game" were from females. When they hear me and the guys discussing strategies, some females would go along the lines of "You play it? Isn't that a game for guys? It looks complicated." I don't know where they get ideas like that from. I'm sure this is not from the male gamers.
+Ashlyn Hermit Play Bloodborne or Darks Souls 3 and you will earn ultimate bragging rights :)
+Rotten Cheese Dota 2 >>>>>> bloodborne (which I like) and dark souls (which I don't like) 😏
Ashlyn Hermit Just finish them obtain the bragging rights and then you can just abandon them.
Quake Live, you might love that too... there are a few female quakers that are great at it.
Dota 2 is amazing! I love that game, although I haven't been playing for nearly as long. If anyone reading this comment would like to party up, I would love to, I need more people to play with! I have also never seen female gamers discouraged from playing.
I'll bet there's a feminist watching this video with her fingers in her ears going "LA LA LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING".
+The Flying Spaghetti Monster If only we were that lucky. BTW.....he boiled for our sins.
+The Flying Spaghetti Monster She knows she's full of shit. Lol
+Charles Darwin You literally nailed my ex girlfriend when I tried to show her these videos.
The similarity you spoke of is uncanny.
+The Flying Spaghetti Monster
Praise be the spaggetti!
Hi Charles. You were right about everything, especially about sexual selection.
Thank you very much for existing Ms Hoff Sommers, and Thank you for doing what you do.
Agreed. One of the most, if not the most intelligent women I've seen thus far in the public eye.
Didn't expect to see you here
+infernocanuck AKA based Mom
infernocanuck i was mislead dueto the title of"factual feminist"but for a feminist,she is intelligent,tolerant,able to disagree withothers,and is not masoganist
it should be illegal to teach lies in school :/
TheGeckoNinja Than what would they teach?
*****
We don't need no education! We don't need no thought control! ;)
JCDentonCZ No dark sarcasm in the classroom~
Remember that it's the winner that writes and changes history.
tot-o t-oto but... we have science tho. no winner can rewrite how the universe works.
Thing that get's me is that gamers have always been ostracized (and I say this as a non-gamer), typically pejoratives such as 'nerd', 'no-life', 'virgin', 'otaku', 'geek', ect were used. In the high school food chain these are people that are at the bottom (as opposed to for example the sporting types). Now it gets me that as a group of people that are vulnerable to being bullied, now *they* are apparently the bullies, and are being bullied by people that would have used those pejoratives, just 5 years ago. But now, *they* are the bad guys. And to those SJs that are crying crocodile tears about fake harassment I have this to say to you: "Get lost you Otaku nerdy geekish no-life virgin!"
a rape takes place in India every 20 minutes and you worry about games
Andy fatnotslim There is always something worse happening in the world, if we are to only worry about the worst thing on the planet, then what about the concentration camps of North korea?
***** i dont see anyone that makes these videos on here helping any cause , only talking bullshit about games
Andy fatnotslim What about the feminists, complaining about mean things said on twitter. Because that's not trivial at all...
words , not broken bones ..... o no some ones being mean WHAT BULLSHIT
Im a male gamer. I can't speak for everyone, but I think alot of guys are thrilled about women gaming. When gaming was all male, it was frowned by women, but now that they play games as well. This is not the case. Also it gives men and women something else to do together that they share in common. Does that sound right?
I love it when my girl friend wants to sit down and play videos games or table top games with me. There are times where she and I don't see each other a lot due to work schedules
There's always the Queen Bees who have to ruin and control other women. The world must adapt to their whims and demands, or else.
Daniel Hempel and rule number one of gaming is: “Don’t judge a person skill by there Gender, Race, Religion, Sexuality, or location.” I have gotten my *ss kicked by female gamer before.
^ Same. I never expected a female to play MMOs smh
I avoid girl gamers. Problem solved.
Yikes. I love women playing video games.. much less, I play online games with my gf almost every day. This pisses me off
***** Good to see you here Mr Repzion.
Stop oppressing your girlfriend.
Boris Fliguinskikh bad troll is bad
***** It's nearly as if they don't want to protect women from harrassment, but just scare them away from videogames.Next step "women get raped by gamers they met online" or some shit like that.
Hodoss *****
Who wants to scare women away from video games? Here is what I get from the suggested course:
1 - Online harassment is a major issue in the online community
2 - There are a lot of women who play video games. This demographic shift has been happening for years.
3 - The role of women in video games is often that of a trope
A - They're in danger or killed
B - They're the motivation for the male
C - They're eye candy
D - They're a Mrs. male character
As it has been pointed out, you can still enjoy something while being critical of it. Will I stop playing Mario because he is always saving Peach? Heck no! I'll get the next Mario game on launch day (A rarity for me these days). Will I stop playing Tomb Raider because there are nude mods for the game? Nope. This new Tomb Raider game is awesome!
I can be very critical of something I love and still love it. I'm glad when shows like The Flash have an LGBT character in a stable healthy relationship. They have interracial dating. They have substantive conversations between two female leads.
Ask yourself, what percentage of the world do straight white males make up?
Ask yourself, what percentage of media do straight white males make up?
I bring up The Flash (Even though it isn't a video game) because they're doing it right. In last weeks episode it actually wasn't a girl in danger, it was Joe. This week it looks like Cisco will be the one in danger. Heck... The first time Iris was in danger, she ended up punching out the guy. The show does a great job of not OVERUSING tropes.
And that is my point...
I do believe tropes exist for a reason. Guys are generally physically stronger than girls. For this reason we might think of a buff action hero type as a male. I'm not like "OH NO! Another male superhero!!!" But when EVERY single strong character is a male you start to say.... isn't there a strong female out there somewhere? The answer is a resounding YES!
Have I said anything too controversial here? I'd love a full breakdown of where you think I have from either you or ***** .
I always have to chuckle whenever I hear people say that it's female gamers who get "harassed" all the time. Play an online match of basically any game and listen to the amount of shit GUYS talk to each other.
But that's just "male bonding" a natural problem of "toxic masculinity" which apparently is not problem until males treat females the same way, then it's "sexist" and "problematic"
a rape takes place in India every 20 minutes and you worry about games
***** call me what you like , just want to know why women in gaming is problem when women suffer from real problems and feminists not ranting about them
Andy fatnotslim Then why are you here potentially complaining about games
because theres more to life than whos affected by a game , enjoy your games but dont live them
The gaming community has always been "inclusive" it's the least form of entertainment that promotes sexism. A word that's been completely taken out of context. If you treat a woman exactly how you would a man, an adult, its considered sexist and or misogynistic. Sjw are more than 40 yrs late to the party. "harassment" always known as trash talking has always been apart of the media. Hell, if you have a female avatar more than likely you'll get plenty of dudes willing to help you.
a rape takes place in India every 20 minutes.
Andy fatnotslim that'a lie. Every 10th of a second.
***** always remember G.I.R.L... ;)
kind of puts any one to shame that thinks gaming is a problem dont you think ?
Andy fatnotslim Dude stop spamming. Bad shit happens everywhere. Stop trying to lessen one problem with another. They're all equally shitty.
I can't believe there's a class this biased out there, maybe it would actually be an interesting class if it had a neutral academic name and was a discussion of both sides of the story. The fact that it's so one sided and using Anita as the only assigned author is beyond laughable.
Wow i can think some loser think video is for sexiem women video are played for fun not sex that why we have gta there is no sex in game all it is graphic the game not real game are for fun that it so guess what to all the gamers who think game are real go eat a pound of shit you losers and this message go for boy n girls video game are ment for fun
Omg I love your channel
Hi mister galactic hamsters
SpaceHamster GO HARDER ON THEM HAMMY TAKE EM DOWN
Thanks Hammy.
As a Woman and a Hardcore Gamer. I'm shocked this was even approved...
Vyktor Dreygo That's something a sexist "privileged Male" would say to me...
Vyktor Dreygo I admit many things, most of them aren't true.
Vyktor Dreygo What is a Lie? All I speak are misleading truths.
Ainrehtea Dal'nalirtu Don't know if you are a gender-bent Storm Spirit, a Naga Siren, or I've been playing too much dota.
***** You've been playing too much Dota...You *might* have an addiction but I won't judge you.
This was the first video of hers that i have watched, and it will most certainly not be the last. Finally a cool, level headed person taking in this topic.
+Jared Knight Watch the episode "are video games sexist?" and "the truth about gamergate".
These are probably my all time favorite.
Unknown Yeah, I did, and all respect lost. I loathe radical feminists, but gamergate is trash.
Jared Knight What the fuck? Did you actually watch the videos? Christina HS supports GamerGate with passion.
Unknown i didn't get that impression from this video. I jumped to conclusions. I thought she was merely breaking the stereotypes that those assholes perpetuate.
+Jared Knight If you think Gamergate is about sexism, then you are missinformed. GamerGate is against corrupte journalism, but thanks to the feminazi's(and yes, i use the term feminazi to describe those who aren't even close to knowing what feminism is, they just do it to hate males) they have attacked them and thrown dirt at GamerGate for something they didn't even talk about.
"In my 25 years I virtually never experienced harassment and discrimination" - Amy Hennig
"As the sole respresentative of women in gaming, I have received harassment after deliberately goading people into harassing me, so therefore gaming is misogynistic"
- Wu
Natasel The proof it "Listen and Believe."
Natasel
You ask for proof about Wu's claims?!?
How fucking dare you....
Filthy misogynist!!
As a female gamer who is in the somewhat smaller demographic that enjoys "violent" video games, seeing stuff like this is a dream. I agree wholeheartedly that these people are making mountains out of mole hills. Yes, there are some minor issues that may need to be addressed, like it wouldn't hurt to have more games with female protagonists, but overall it doesn't bug me and I'd rather not have developers feel obligated to make such games just because people demand it from them. That's the equivalent of threatening a writer if they kill off a certain character, it's not right. In the end if it has great gameplay and a great story then it shouldn't matter.
Although yeah, people receiving threats over stuff like this is complete and total bogus no matter what side of the argument they're on. Sending threats is a very moronic thing to do.
When these critics talk about sexism in video games, they fail to take into account that gamer's are not all bad people. Gamer's are simply enjoying someone else's work and/or product that the gamer bought through a retail store.
Critics and politicians have already gone after video game companies about violence, sexual content, vulgar language, etc. in video games, and the result was a classification system that is now being used today.
I am willing to bet that these critics do not appreciate the amount of work that goes into creating an individual video game. Video games are much like art in a museum, but a computer is needed to create and use the video games whereas museum are was created with paint and canvas; stone; clay; etc.. Another difference is that museum art doesn't need a computer to bring it life whereas without a computer, video games are reduced to nothing more than a program locked on compact disks and such.
One of my favorite quotes is,"A computer is only as smart as the idiot whom programs it." If you are reading this, have some respect for the idiot whom programmed your computer so that you can read this message. If not, then get off of this computer, and go do something else.
Christina you are the best, what are your thoughts on Anita Sarkeesian winning Harvards humanist of the year award? I think its bs
As Im not particularly familiar with how these things work, take what I say with a grain of salt. I'm told, however, that these awards aren't endorsed by Harvard, but rather a group at Harvard, like a club... say, like a feminist club.
a rape takes place in India every 20 minutes and you worry about games
People die of hunger quite a bit too. I think you should worry about those too.
Andy fatnotslim she is just saying that those who criticize videogames are focusing on trivial things and not serious subjects.
Andy fatnotslim [citation needed]
BASED MOM 420 BLAZE IT
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Fuck yea
Female gamers attach to Pokemon, Mario, Zelda, Animal Crossing, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Portal, etc.
All of these are hardcore, legitimate games.
Animal crossing is harder than pokemon sometimes
Animal crossing is harder than pokemon sometimes
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Neither can I
I just puked after reading that....
A response to a proposed class titled "Is Gaming a boy's club?"
I like this lady. She's smart.
Just because something is assumed, doesn't mean its true. Gaming is for all ages and both genders (Some exceptions apply).
I'm no linking to that document . I'm not giving them traffic.
If a large amount of people want to read it I can copy it into a doc and host it.
This lady here. I like her. If you puked after reading it I might blow my brains out. So I'll just stay away.
Its pretty bad Anita propaganda
I contacted the ADL a month ago about exactly these issues. Initially, I got through to their local Education Director, who said she was surprised to hear any such content was in the lesson plan. In fact, she said, all such decisions came from New York.
The call went swimmingly, there was no tension, we were both warm and gracious to each other in passing info back and forth, and she told me that the ADL would get back to me sometime the following week.
As should be evident, I haven't heard from them again and it's clear notifying them of the situation has done nothing to change their trajectory.
Another amazing video, BasedMom. You may not be a gamer, but you have done more for us "gamer girls" then anyone from Anita's camp.
there is nothing called gamer girls...its just gamer...u wont call boy who plays video games a "boy gamer", so why do call female gamers girl gamers... i dont care whether you are an african 40 yr old woman or an 11 yro old asian boi, if you play games ill call you a gamer, and treat you like an equal ( note: level of respect and equality depends on your gaming skill, im not assuming you play bad if u r a gurl, but i hope u know wht i meen)
Thank you Christina for sticking up for gamers like myself, who just want to play games and be left in peace.
Don't worry, my fellow gamers! We will win this war! We always do!
And if we die...we just respawn...
+SR Bacca I have stacked Stamina and defense! So dont worry if it gets bad i'll tank and if it goes wrong... yes indeed we repsawn and try again!
We already won, the anti-GG idiots behind the recent Law & Order episode that claimed that gamers are terrorists and rapists at the end of the episode they said "They (GamerGaters) already won".
Now granted, obviously, the whole episode is filled with constant horseshit and gamers aren't actually terrorists and rapists, but it's nice seeing anti-GGers admit losing at the end of the day.
+ajzeg01 War... War never changes...
+ajzeg01There's hardly a war to win. Just unreasonable complaints to be ignored.
I feel it needs to be mentioned that the study which argues that females nowadays provide a good 48% of the total playerbase (if I recall correctly) had a very broad definition of the term "gamer", that is, it more or less counts every person playing Tetris on the phone while waiting for the bus or one of those stupid cowclicker games on Facebook while chatting with friends as a "gamer".
To me, this definition seems rather absurd. Transferred to other fields, this effectively would mean I would be a media critic because I occasionally comment on CZcams Videos, a movie aficionado because I (rarely) watch movies, or (and this is hyperbole, I know) a raging alcoholic because I sometimes enjoy a good scotch.
It is one thing to be in occasional contact with a certain subject. It is another thing entirely to be a hobbyist. How the aforementioned study would look like with a tighter definition of the "gamer" term is debatable, to put it mildly.
Ravenier Yes, the audience for console type games are overwhelmingly male. The audience for mobile games is the opposite.No one should have a problem with this.
philyburkhill1 This is not about the respective platform, but rather about the time which each individual will spend on the specific hobby of 'gaming'. Although, admittedly, mobile platforms generally tend to offer games with less potential playtime than either gaming consoles or PCs.
Agenda-driven lies and half-truths. It also is great cover to be considered an 'expert' without having ANY credentials, experience or credibility, a key element for feminist/Cultural Marxist foot infantry.
Ravenier
The definition of a person that plays games is a person that plays games. For what reason do you seek to re-define the term?
Yea, those numbers almost certainly include mobile gaming (which, largely, isn't actual gaming). That all being said, I'm sure the gap in the next 5 years for console/PC games will look a lot like 52/48.
Ladies, the day you attempt to buy a game and the clerk says "Sorry, we don't allow women to play these," point them out to me and I'll gladly give them what for. You have my word on that.
But if that's not happening yet you bleat about gaming being a boys club, tell me and I'll point to the nearest dictionary!
Thank you
I really hate how they are trying to say that women have been kept out of the community and industry. That is so untrue it makes me sick. It's like being surrounded by people who claim the south won the Civil War. I've known so many girls and women back from the SNES/Genesis days of the 90s who loved gaming, the developers, community, and series' just as much as any other male would. This wasn't even an issue until hacks like Feminist Frequency saw they can make a lot of money off of these falsehoods and make names for themselves. All the women who speak up against their nonsense, one-sided narrative are labeled all sorts of insulting things for trying to defend their hobby.
Again, I'd love to see Sommers debate Sarkeesian, as she has offered to do. But we all know the latter won't ever agree to it, as she knows that the facts are NOT on her side.
Oh god I'd love to see that debate happen!! Hell could even get thunderf00t in there on Christinas side and Jon macintosh on anitas side. That would be funny to see. The unchallenged sjws would get destroyed!!
Sawed-off Orc
No way McIntsoh would let himself publically speak for FemFreq - there is a reason Anita does the tours and the speeches.
I honestly believe that if the orginal Tropes vs Women pitch had excluded Anita, being only McIntosh, then I don't think it would have ever gotten off of the ground
WozzaBoi Yeah. Which is ironic considering McIntosh says that a man is taken more seriously than a woman. (Yet millions more people watched Fem Freq vids instead of his videos)
Sawed-off Orc He also claims men will never - NEVER - be asked to speak on behalf of their whole gender... while making some men speak on behalf of their whole gender.
I'm a female software developer in the gaming industry. Some female workers in the industry (not tech workers though, mostly communication professionals or a few artists) keep telling us we are victims, and describe the industry as the most misogynist industry ever. They've been in a war against it for years. I only had fun in that industry, and I'm definitely not a gaming dude stereotype. I don't get it...there's no logic in their protests, only hate and utter bad faith.
I will definitely leave the industry in a few years to work somewhere that has not been polluted yet by those annoying modern so-called feminists (some of those industries still exist in tech, but forget about most top US tech companies). Those girls are destroying my current workplace environment and I'm super pissed.
it's not a boy's club, they're just upset that they aren't queen of the castle.
It's one thing to be shamed and vilified as a male gamer, but I find the real irony to be that there's a huge tension between the genders now that wasn't there before. The trolls are having the time of their lives, women are being told gaming is a dangerous boy's club, and guys are being told that looking at attractive women makes them hate women. I'm all for progress, change, and improvement but this recent culture seems just damaging and a huge step back.
That's the goal of Cultural Marxism on a culture they want to destroy and take over.
Thank you Based Mom
Anita Sarkesian said in her Feminist Frequency Video back in 2012 that Shigeru Miyamoto was sexist and misogynist,
all because he made Princess Peach and Princess Zelda as damsel in distress tropes.
And she added in that Miyamoto has a sexist agenda against women.
When in reality Shigeru Miyamoto also has made games like Nintendogs, Wii Sports and other games on the Nintendo DS and Wii back in 2004 and 2006 because he loved his wife so much he wanted to help build a connection between them by trying to make games that could appeal to her.
So in reality, Shigeru Miyamoto is not sexist or a misogynist.
Anita Sarkesian has lied in most of her videos not only just about gaming, but also about movies, tv shows and also about music.
Her christmas video about sexism in christmas songs is a prime example of her hatred and madness against things she does not like.
not to mention she had to finish her videos in series in 2012.... and she didnt even do the 25% of her videos series and we are now in 2015....
"Check your facts, not your privilege" This is a quote that people will remember for centuries.
I'm glad that you're helping to shine a spotlight on this horrible propaganda masquerading as "education".
We've fallen asleep at the wheel as a society, and I hope we're able to wake up very soon.
of course anita is involved...
i have witnessed sexism in video games, like 3 times, and ive played games online for 15 years on average 2 hours a day. is there realy that big of a problem?
p.s. all three times were in cod.
Rofl
its call of duty what did you expect?
We talk to gamer Samantha Beauvillain about her experiences as a woman in the gaming community - czcams.com/video/FaDmgzZJs3U/video.html
I am livid about this, I can not believe that a group I have identified with for 90% of my life is being demonized. This is why I support GG because this can not go without someone calling it out for the BS it is. I enjoyed this video and I thank you for looking at this situation from a reasonable perspective.
Dr. Sommers, thank you for educating people about this important matter!
I'm pretty sure whenever I see a female gamer the first thought I get is "Cool someone I can talk to about my interest and hang out with" anyone else with me?
Excellent rebuttal, and, more importantly, documented with references I can actually look at. Good stuff.
Am I the only one who is slowly reaching the point where I don't care anymore about sexism? It's always blown up with hyperbole and I'm frankly tired of listening to some worthless idiot in nearly every corner of every field telling me how everything I do is sexist in some way even though I treat men and women the same. I'm starting to realize that sexism doesn't really mean what it used to, once a sexist where someone who treated people differently based on their gender, today it's merely by affiliation in one shape or another using a black and white logic of "you are with us or against us". I'm gonna throw away my idea of sexism and just stick to the golden rule from now and if I am accused of sexism by way of affiliation again then "fuck you", not my problem anymore.
This. Calling something sexist is a completely empty statement most of the time nowadays.
Alex P
Only a sexist would say that.
Are you mad becuz we're taking away your mantoys?
They're our toys now. Cry in your bib neckbeard. Just because you hate women is no reason to try to take away our videogames. If you men don't like it, you can go and make your own. Just don't copy ours. And no scoring. Competition is for losers.
Kadrick Ninness lmao
Kadrick Ninness Epic troll is epic.
Same thing with racism really, with the over political correct state everything is becoming You can`t even mention someone`s etnicity be it casual or in honest asking without either offending someone or being blamed for racism by some uninvolved SJW.
This shit is just getting ridiculous, strong words are seriously losing their weight more and more.
The only way you get 48% of gamers being female is if you classify anyone who's ever played Angry Birds for 10 minutes on the bus a "gamer." This is akin to me calling myself a Baseball player because once a year I might be involve din a pick-up game.
"Gamers" are people for whom video games are a primary *passion.* Not something they pick up every once in a while for a few minutes at a time, not something they'll do if a friend asks them to try it, and certainly not something you never actually *do,* but spend an inordinate amount of time reading about it and claiming you do in order to make your complaints about it sound more valid. It's a *passion.* Now, there's no question; the amount of females who are legitimately gamers has risen quite dramatically in the past several years. But 48%? No. Not be a long shot. Not even remotely close.
Hi Ms. Sommers,
You don't know me but I have become increasingly familiar with both your philosophy and your body of work. I am halfway through Who Stole Feminism? and much of what you describe within that book is alive and well at my college. I, too, consider myself to be a feminist, though I am committed to changing that label to 'equalist'. I have taken you very seriously when you have urged students to take back their college campuses, and to that end, I have been vocal about criticizing much of what is taught to us from a young age about the disadvantaged status of women. I have criticized the Obama administration for spreading false statistics, I have questioned the methods by which colleges are being urged to judge alleged rapists, and I have questioned the truth behind the matter of biological differences in gender. I fear I have been too vocal.
I understand that you are familiar with philosophy, so I will give you an example of what I mean by "too vocal". I studied Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics and his virtues of Thought and Character. Analyzing racism through the lens of Aristotle's virtues was a fascinating exercise. I explored the possibility in class that due to incorrect application of Aristotle's virtues, racism was allowed to persist in the South because racists would be incapable of questioning their own belief systems due to a lack of education in Aristotle's virtues. My professor then asked me about Hitler and the Holocaust, and if Aristotle's virtues had been improperly applied within the system of the Third Reich. I argued that they had. I am now being accused of justifying the Holocaust and racism, despite being a Black man. I spoke to my professor about this, and he said that I gave an excellent example and that the students were mistaken in labeling my argument in that manner.
I have been accused of being sexist because I made what I felt to be a harmless joke in class that was then cited as evidence of sexism. I was told this by my professor who was told by my classmates that they perceived me to be sexist. I said that a girl in the class "made me giggle" because her argument was shoddy and lacked textual evidence when we were discussing the text of the time. For this and criticism of the actions of another female member in class, many of the class has accused me of being sexist. I do not pretend to be blameless. There have been several instances where I have failed to communicate my argument effectively. I have sometimes spoken too quickly and not paused to consider what I am saying. I did not take into account the atmosphere of my school and assumed that we were all acting from a position of "good faith" in our arguments. I do not believe these are grounds for accusing me of being sexist.
I have earned a reputation of being sexist on a campus where the warped feminism that many of us seem to only experience online has taken physical form. There is currently a debate on the use of trigger warnings occurring on campus. I have been criticized by fellow African-Americans for being inclusive of White people in the discussion about race, rather than cruel and exclusionary. One of our class's lectures was taken over by feminists who felt that the syllabus of the class was far too 'Eurocentric' (perhaps Phallocentric could be inserted here) and that the class needed to stop focusing on old White dudes. they fail to acknowledge that there are many pieces of old "White" culture that are invaluable foundations to our nation as it exists today. They (the students) are pre-programmed to analyze all of these classical texts through the lens of patriarchy,oppression, and gender; and so Plato's Republic becomes a sexist Fascist regime. Reason becomes equal to emotion, for reason is too closely related to Plato. Cicero is considered to be repetitive and unoriginal. Gilgamesh is seen as a prototypical male archetype, rather than a symbol for the importance of self-improvement and acknowledgement of mortality. Morality is seen as being relative. This is a campus that prides itself on being somewhat anti-establishment. One could substitute the word establishment for patriarchy. I have kicked the hornet's nest.
I have learned so much from you. I have learned how to fact-check and how to deconstruct studies based on their methodology alone. You have completely revolutionized my world-view. You lifted the veil of patriarchy and oppression from my eyes and allowed me to become a more 'vertical' learner. You have shown me how to be objective in my education and in my analysis of my beliefs and those of others. Thank you for existing. As a gamer, as a male, and as a student on a liberal campus, thank you so much for doing what you're doing.
I was told by my roommate tonight that word is getting around that I am questioning dearly held beliefs. A member of my class told a group of people that I justified the Holocaust and another member of my community stated that I stopped talking to xir after xe told me that xe had a boyfriend. These statements are simply not true. I believe that I have engineered my own social death on this campus. I have likely poisoned many people's view of me unintentionally. I believe that I will now start to experience increasingly strict ostracization and other forms of blowback for choosing to do what I feel is morally right. I have difficulty keeping my mouth shut or refusing to take action when I perceive things that are morally wrong happening around me. I am nauseated and my heart is pounding simply thinking about the repercussions of being labeled as a sexist on this campus.
I am writing this because I am alone, or I perceive that I am very alone on this campus. I am sure that other people share my concerns about feminism, but perhaps they have the wisdom and prudence of thought not to speak up about it. I do not feel I have anywhere else to go, and so I come to you, even in as removed a fashion as this. When I have had a particularly bad day, I watch your videos. They remind me that sanity exists and that relentless ideologues are not the only ones concerned with equality. Your videos make me much more hopeful for the future of equality. I am very scared about my future on this campus. I am somewhat shielded from some of it because I am Black, but there is no escaping the fact that I look very, very masculine. I feel I have no support to fall back on. My family is 1,000 miles away and some faculty on this campus are not willing to listen to me. I intend to reach out to more of them, but I feel very skeptical of my ability to win anyone over. I am very scared. I would appreciate if the community who supports you would take notice of my problem, even for just a little bit of moral support.
I hope you are able to read and respond to this,
J True
You consider yourself a feminists, why?
Feminism has nothing to do with "gender equality". it never has.
Prove to yourself and find the answers for the following:
1) what equal responsibilities have feminists advocated for?
2) what privileges has feminism advocated directly for the benefit of men and specifically for men?
Good luck with that!
*****
Feminism
Catholicism
They both end in "ism" thus they both need to be questioned.
Thanks, Christina, for voicing this and speaking up.
You are a gift to all of us, if I may be allowed to mention this. Thank you.
Pl keep up your great work. Much needed.
The only thing i hear when you talk about this "curricular" all i hear and see coming form it is "ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!"
Looks like they drank the kool aid.
More like they own/are deeply invested in the Kool Aid company and are trying to force an entire generation to drink it every single day while loving it.
JCDentonCZ ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
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I've been playing video games all my life. After about 2003 the idea that "Women don't game" died. Since then gamers have been the most inclusive group of people on the damn planet, which includes inclusiveness of women. Women are respected just as much as men are in gaming communities.
You got my "like"!
As always, this gamer immensely appreciates your efforts to maintain balance with the medium.
im so glad these videos were recommended to me, so informational, and I agree with everything!
"Don't worry about Sarkessian. She's just a critic. What's the worst she could do?"
At the end of the day, this all just makes me really sad. I introduced my sister to games and she plays almost as much as I do, good stuff too. Now people like Anita are coming along and effectively telling her that no, she's wrong, she doesn't belong in this world, she's seen as the enemy and the entire medium is spitting on her.
I'm sorry, I hear these things, and I look at my games shelf, and I just don't see it. It makes me really sad.
Thank you for your work, videos and messages :)
Really, thank you, as a gamer this is the kind of things that we need to share.
another example of a video game skeptic was jack thompson, another person who got tons of shit but the media like to pretend the feminist critics are being targeted for being women. i love you btw you always keep it real
One of the primary goals here is to promote intellectual dishonesty. Where critique of methodology is not allowed and where preaching within curriculum is promoted instead of uncensored dialog . This promotes a main stream appeal to authority fallacy which corrupts the curriculum integrity and viability
When I realized that Anita sarkesian was behind this I fucking lost it.
Thank you for addressing this so elegantly.
Those videos are incredible! I've been watching a few of them, and you can be sure that I will talk about them around me and point to them whenever people are spewing arguments that come from biased or with citation and fact-checking needed ideologies.
Whatever the opinion is, I'm always one for using facts, not feeling.
I think the reason why gamers were targeted is because while plenty of people play computer games and apps, gaming culture is a sub-culture. Basically, it easier to target a small fragment of the population if your subculture is very small. Also, lets face it to most people gamer = nerd, but who the heck knows what "regressive left 3rd wave feminist is"? I think what the extreme left subculture misjudged is that a lot of gamers are adults with wives, kids, and careers even after being nurtured within an unpopular subculture as a child. So ya, nerds are very familiar with adversity, we know how to deal with it, we're rise or go into the internet trenches and get dirty with you. What can I saw we're a diverse group.
This is true. They made a mistake.
I don't even think I can qualify to be a nerd if we took my computer knowledge into account, but yeah, gamers are just people. Ironically, they're showcasing another area of which they are discriminating while doing the accusing of being discriminated.
Given the numerous genres that gaming has to offer (personally I prefer role playing games or RPGs and horror games) it's quite monotonous to suggest otherwise that gaming isn't diverse and innovative.
Thank you for these videos.
This was surprisingly informative, adding it to a playlist for GG.
See gamers, this is why we need to stop arguing about resolution and what system is cool. We have a bigger problem.
the truth indeed
you did not watch the video
@@NinjaXavier2 I never comment on a video I don't watch. Please enjoy the rest of your day.
@@winginitpodcast oh have a nice day too
There are times when I am afraid to make criticisms of both sides due to the hostility I expect from the backlash. My main issue is I am a moderate, a neutral! I see some value in the criticism lobbied to gaming by feminists, but I also understand that they go too far. Scaring women away from speaking their mind by playing the 'professional victim' and exaggerating their harrassment will only stifle voices that agree with them.
Consuelo Higdon Criticize away! Unfortunately, the anti-GG side will likely block you while claiming that any criticism levied against them proves that you are, in fact, pro-GG and not "neutral". My bias here is clearly showing, but I suspect the pro side is a lot more likely to actually listen to you, especially since what they usually hear are merely insults and accusations of misogyny, sexism, harassment, etc., not actual criticism.
Vestin Thank you for the support, Vestin :-) I'm glad to know I won't be completely shot down by both sides for being moderate! At least in one person's opinion.
Consuelo Higdon As a Pro I encourage you to remain neutral. I was neutral until the Antis started harassing me and called me "pro-gamergate". About two months ago, after the first 3 months of Anti-gamergaters harassing me and telling me how I was wrong, I became proHilariously, when I was neutral before and questioned/criticized pro-gamergaters, they were extremely nice and understanding of me.I questioned/criticized anti-gamergaters and they were absolutely horrific with their attitude towards me.If you have any questions, don't be shy to ask us. ;)
Aresh Melone Thank you!
I agree wholeheartedly with the other commenter. Discussion is grand! Everybody loves discussing these things, else we wouldn't be here. I consider myself as leaning heavily on the pro-GG side, but I do notice that some things could be improved.
Having said that, there are ways to approach a minor social issue in a very privileged society, and the approach that modern feminism consistently chooses to address minor issues just doesn't sit well with me. At all.
I don't want to "listen and believe". I want to sit, have a cuppa, and discuss why our opinions differ. I'm a woman too, dammit, and I won't silently let somebody else speak for me. Especially when they speak so damned loud and the media won't let me hear anything else.
Either way, welcome! :)
This issue hits home for me. As a child, I liked to play games a lot. I wanted to be able to have conversations about games with other girls. But I was ostracized because I did not like the same shows as them. I did not know the same actors as them. I wasn't anti social, I just lacked common ground. And being a "gamer" automatically has a negative connotation as someone who has poor social skills and poor self control. I felt like I was forced to pretend that I didn't play games. If I was asked, "what did you do over the weekend?" my go to answer was "study" because I couldn't admit I played MMORPGs or MOBAs or whatever I was into at the time. Because that was looked down upon. Because that wasn't acceptable for a female student to be doing.
And then people keep saying gamers are anti-social and have no life. Imagine this. You enjoy something. You want to share it with other people and enjoy it together. Then basically the entire world tells you what you like to do is worthless and makes you less of a person.
I'm glad I grew up before this. I wouldn't want something I enjoy brainwashed out of me. This lesson plan needs to stop. There aren't very many, but there are girls who love games. This lesson plan is telling them to not do what they enjoy because someone who has no idea how they feel for some reason has the power to force this into them.
I don't often comment on youtube videos seriously.
But my god you are doing some great work. Seriously awesome videos.
I agree, all the propaganda is making women have an even worse preconceived notion about gaming. I myself would be happy to play with more women in all games.
I have a bit of a jaundiced view on Sarkeesian since I saw a video about her opinions on how sexy female characetrs are in games. She nitpicked how the characters walk, and while some female characters - ones known to be "sexy" - have a distinct hip sway, she also accused characters whose hip sway was not as strong as being "oversexualised" for having any hip sway at all. Women have hip sway because of the way their hips are constructed, it is not "oversexualising" to show a modest hip sway.
Plus apparently her favourite female character is an 8-Bit thing that does not even look human and has barely any story or characterisation at all.
I like my game characters walking realistically, looking realistic, and I don't mind if they are shapely, thin, and have a great rack (some time look up Dragon Age: Origins female character models, especially in the mage robe with a boob window). I'm fat and frumpy, so I take it as a nice escape to be able to play a woman who is not fat and frumpy.
She doesn't understand manspreading either.
Which has the same basic reasoning behind it as female hip sway, plus external genitalia.
I'm so glad that there's someone out there who can so well articulate my feelings on matters like gaming and sexism. You've won yourself a new subscriber. :)
Thank you for continuing to be objective with your coverage of issues that can potentially wrongly prejudice young people to certain viewpoints.
The best thing about gamers, is that they dont care about labels. They don't have to worry about exclusion, if you encounter shit talking, it doesn't matter because chances are, you will never play with that player again if the game is popular enough. Gaming is a way to escape real world problems just for a moment.
And people are trying to bring the real world into it. Fuck off.
As much as I love Based Mom giving us the what's up on current events regarding certain social issues, it also saddens me when I quickly realize that there's a need for her to do this for us in the first place.
I am glad these videos exist, though this is an older video it is defiantly needs more attention, especially in today's time.
I Just wanted to let you know that you are awesome and thank you for being a voice a reason in this matter. Several attention seeking individuals are demonizing the whole gaming community and its a shame that they get more publicity then someone as fare as you. In me and many other gamers you have loyal supporters who will always remember your honesty and kindness in this matter. Thank you.
base mom, remind me to give you a big hug if i ever see you in real life
God I appreciate these videos.
Thanks for this well investigated report!
I (male) have been playing for almost 2 decades and my girlfriend is also a gamer. I've never encountered people harassing on her for her gender, ever, not even people trolling her (like "alright alright" described) and she and I have been together for five years now. Even before that my experience was that female gamers were considered to be super cool by men. I remember hiding my gaming hobbies from women during my puberty because I was afraid to be rejected.
My personal estimation of the ratio of female to male main characters in games was that it was much higher compared to other media to its time and probably high when considering how few women were playing video games at that time. It's also very hard to just pin a number at it since it depends on the success of the title and just breaking gender. I'm also tired of just breaking every gender difference down to some men/women(/diverse) ratio which is closely related to an equality of outcome premise. But with characters like Lara Croft or Samus Aran there were for sure a couple badass heroes one could identify with.
Awesome video. Subscribed.
Back in the 90's and early 00's, I and many other male gamers were shunned by girls our own age, and would have loved for more girls to be involved in the hobby. Not to say they didn't exist, but I would of had a better chance finding a unicorn back then. Now its cool for both genders to play games, and its a maturing media. Great stuff! who doesn't want that? Unfortunately some (please read as some and not all) self-entitled women who are VERY late to the party, want to say its sexist. Well, perhaps instead of shunning nerds in the 90's, and continuing to call them names in the present, you should have been gaming with them way back when. Just saying!
#GirlGamerForLife
Thank you Ms.Sommers !
Brilliant presentation, Christina. Thank you very much.
fearmongering is profitable
Hell I must be minority within a minority because I love playing video games and I don't find them sexist or misogynistic at all.
+Insert weird username here I doubt you are. Just most people don't tend to come out and say what something is not unless there is claims that it is. You don't hear people calling a bike not a truck for this reason.
+iamsobanned You don't know there are many ignorantly claiming video games to be sexist? That is what the video was about.
MrNateSPF you obviously didn't understand my comment. also not many just a few really loud voices in the crowd, most who probably didn't even play games in the first place. most people who play video games don't find them sexist so they don't need to go out of their way to say games aren't sexist unless someone else claims they are. it's like having to say the sky is not on fire. nobody needs to say that unless there is s reason to do so.
Thank you Ms. Sommers for standing up for gamers! It really hurts me that people are wrongly demonizing both gamers and developers and their art, but I know that with blessings like Christina Sommers and the karma that befalls liars, the truth will prevail.
Subscribed for sure!
Milo got sent a dead mouse? Those things you can buy from a pet store for like $1, to feed to snakes? Yeah, I'm sure that scared him shitless...
+Khaorix not figuratively anyway.... jks
+Marblez3 Someone sent Donald Trump's son an envelope full of white powder, with the implicit message being that they would poison him. Personally, I'm against Trump, but that's because I've actually researched what he wants to do and I genuinely disagree with most of it, although not all of it. I would certainly not bring his family into his political campaign, especially not in such a vile way. It says a lot about the kinds of people who are picking fights with him, and these are the same sorts of people who are also trying (and failing) to basically destroy gaming from the inside out.
+Marblez3 You can't stump the Nimble Navigator
women arent wanted in video games huh? i think mangamix,ihascupquake,pasqualinawii &many many others have something to say on that
Although I am not a Feminist, I do agree with most of the things you say throughout your videos. Your points are well thought out, clear, precise, and my favorite part FACTUAL! You also get a bonus for not cursing a storm like many do when they speak about the topic of Feminism. In fact, you almost make me want to rethink not being a Feminist... hehe, almost. I'm a bit tougher to sway than some people.
Well, Christina Hoff Sommers, I wish you the best. I believe that you can change the Feminism of the Western world into something better than it is now. I give you my full support. Maybe once the word Feminism has changed, for me, into a term associated with good samaritans and great people, I'll become one. But until then, I'll stand behind you and cheer on from the stands.
Best Regards, Caleigh B.
Thank you so much for speaking out on behalf of a hobby that I truly love and an art form that does accept everyone regardless of the blind sided opinions of faulty sources. We need as many people as possible to stand up for this culture and your clear and well supported videos about this issue are amazing. I am a 17 year old male gamer and in no way shape or form would I ever discourage someone from sharing my passion no matter their gender, age, skin color, or sexual orientation, I would only ever be inclined to welcome them as I always have before.
based mom is best mom
I wish this wasn't a thing. because it discourages females from gaming. and lets be honest. female gamers that dont care and play games because they like to play games are fucking awesome.
Thank you Madam. I appreciate these kinds of videos. Gives me hope.
I had an very good opinion on the works of the modern civil rights activists and feminists.
They rallied for equality and equality was something that I felt that all people should band together for, rather than making groups of like people who seemed more interested in the rights of their constituents. (Why wasn't NAACP just NAaP:national organization for the advancement of All Peoples).
Then something happened. Either things changed in some of the movements of civil rights and feminism, or I began to at last notice the happenings.
These last 6 years were a rude awakening for me thinking that those movements were pristine and that we were collectively moving away from times where our differences are an issue. I saw people claiming to be advocates of equality politicize victims without a care for the family, people using a respected movement with amiable goals as a vehicle for their own personal hatred towards other demographics, and of course I have also seen people play up an issue of ethics as a half-hearted attempt to appeal to voters or to make money.
These days I start out the reading of anything or anyone aligned with either movements with a bit of skepticism, until I can tell if they are a true member rather than one of the fakes dedicated to being divisive.
The media isn't supposed to divide people. But what happens is that some people wind up using it as a mouthpiece for their slanted opinions and the loud minority of people run with them instead of being informed.
tl;dr I am a humanist jaded at what has become of the image of civil rights groups by the hands of their untrue members.
Well, Anita is succeeding in fulling all of Fox New's Progressives Tropes: Indoctrinate your children.
This Woman is awesome, I may only be 25, but is she single?
Based mom is indeed awesome.
I'm down with that man.
+WankersCramp69 Get in line
I don't think so actually, lol. I know she was married for many yrs. Sadly, her husband passed a few yrs ago.
I am a man and I am a gamer. This is the first time I have seen the factual feminist. I almost cried XD You are my hero!!!
God bless you woman! I have been fighting on the side of equality and trying to defend feminism, but people like Anita have completely destroyed the feminist image! I am just so glad to have found a feminist who actually seems to advocate equality! I was starting to doubt myself!
Thank you so much! Thankyou!
I am going to share this video to anyone that will listen to show people that feminism isn't about guy bashing!
Thank you so much for this! I will be watching more of your videos. These divisive tactics being used are hurting everyone, and teaching people to be victims is one of the most backward ways of thinking I've ever encountered.