Rawalpindi ke Fasadaat jinhon ne Taqseem ki Tareekh Badal di | Sajjad Azhar
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- čas přidán 23. 11. 2022
- تقسیم کے وقت ہونے والے فسادات میں 10 لاکھ لوگ مارے گئے، ڈیڑھ کروڑ لوگوں کو سرحد کے دونوں طرف ہجرت کرنی پڑی، نتیجتاً نفرت کا جو سلسلہ شروع ہوا، اس نے آج تک خطے کو اپنی لپیٹ میں لے رکھا ہے۔ تقسیم کے وقت کے فسادات کی ابتدا تو 16 اگست 1946 کو کلکتہ کے فسادات سے ہو چکی تھی تاہم راولپنڈی میں مارچ 1947 کو ہونے والے فسادات نے تو گویا تقسیم کے خون آلود ہونے پر مہر تصدیق ثبت کر دی تھی۔ اگر یہ فسادات نہ ہوتے تو ماہرین کا خیال ہے کہ شاید پاکستان اور بھارت آج امریکہ اور کینیڈا کی طرح کے ہمسائے ہوتے۔
مقرر سجاد اظہر ایک پیشہ ور صحافی اور محقق ہیں جو انڈیپنڈینٹ اردو سے وابستہ ہیں۔ حال ہی میں ان کی نثری نظموں کی کتاب “لنڈی کوتل کی لالٹین” شائع ہوئی ہے۔ وہ گذشتہ 28 برس سے پاکستان اور پاکستان سے باہر کئی صحافتی و تحقیقی اداروں سے وابستہ رہ چکے ہیں اور مختلف موضوعات پر تحقیقی پروگراموں کا حصہ رہے ہیں۔ ان کی تحقیق کا ایک بڑا موضوع راولپنڈی کے فسادات ہیں جن کے بارے میں ان کی رائے ہے کہ اگر یہ نہ ہوتے تو بعد کی تاریخ بہت مختلف ہوتی۔
How to appreciate .. Don't have the words... A million respect to Azhar ...
Mini ‘Truth and reconciliation’ conversations like these heal the wounds, and may cure the problem faced within radicalized communities. Many thanks to the hosts and for the speaker.
Very informative.. Sajjad Azhar is a great historian and an excellent speaker.. ❤
Bhaijaan, Thank you for your courage to speak the truth .
Does any body has courage in India to speak truth about the killings of Muslims in East Punjab by the hands of violent Sikh jatthas and Hindu violent mobs on the inciting of Master Taara Singh and congress leaders .......
There were several talks on youTube. This was specifically about Rawalpindi and its horrors of fasaad.
@@arendolaren392 reaction to the killings of Sikhs in west Punjab
Great wishes from the depth of my heart for entire team of THE BLACK HOLE for conducting the most sensitive part of history for the new generation. Thanks.
Even in 2023 India, muslims pelt stones on Hindu religious processions . Most recent example: Nuh District India. Islamist mindset doesn't believe in coexistence
Please make correction to name of village where ghilab Singh havaili was and well incident happened the name of village is Thoha Khalsa not a Choha Khalsa both are villages situated in district Rawalpindi Thoha Khalsa was relatively bigger and main village of Sikhs for that time Dukh Pajni was a place where all women jumped in well this is another small village next to Thoha Khalsa sorry if I said something wrong thanks
You are right, it was Thoa khalsa
What about Bihar Bangal riot hindu killing Muslim we can not live together hindu and Muslim r different we love to eat beafe ❤❤❤
An excellent platform to produce awareness and to dig out the real causes by very learned intellectuals, its a great effort ,I think a great job to perform, presence of very imminent scholar and the way each and every single moment of the past history is defined by the speaker, it is very special and unique, I think it is one of the best session ever since recorded, a great approach and a great wisdom behind this session, Keep it up and all the best...
How come it was possible for Sikhs to fight for united India when their population were not in majority any districts of Punjab.
Now I hv no doubt as to why Pakistan is heading so stead-fastedly towards doomsday......
The cries of those women and children still haunt Paxtan..
The nation who kills it's own father or bapoo Gandhi for his insisting to adhere with the agreements signed with pakistan and Britain, is sure travelling with high speed to their doomsday, and Sala Chai wala moodi tea 🍵 has accelerated it
بوھت ودھیا تجزیہ کیتا جے جناب حالات رفتہ دا ۔
سکھی تے خوشی وسو آمین 🌳
Massacre took place in all places. My parents were in Ahmedpur East in the state of Bahawalpur and and our elders told us that poison was distributed to women in case the Muslim men tried to rape them. My father had many good Muslim friends who helped us to escape in return for giving them all property movable and immovable which was immense.
Excellent work by Sajad sb. He is a gold mine of pindi history. Very Very good effort. Thanks
Very courageous and researched work done by an industrious Sajjad Azhar. Impressed by his true work.
Great educational value ! An eye opener. Lajawab bayaan ❤🤟
Aziz Malik ki kitab Rawal Des kay baad second most informative sitting on Rawlapindi. Great work
راولپنڈی کے گردو نواح کے علاقوں میں آج بھی لوگوں کا مزاج ایسا ہے ۔ وہ جھگڑے میں بڑی خوشی سے چھلانگ لگاتے ہیں ۔ 😂😂
Thank you Sajad Azhar sahib for explaining the real facts and causes of Rawalpindi fasadat in 1920's and 40's which were never known before. Rawalpindi is my city . I remember jamia masjid , kurshid cinema and bilraj sahini when he visited Rawallpindi in 60's. Your research about history of Rawalpindi is amazing.
Thankyou, may Allah bless you.
Thank you for speaking up true history that uprooted is residents of pindi for centuries .🙏
Although I knew about Rawalpindi Fasad from Dr. Ishtiaq but Azhar sahib did great research and went into detail.
Pervez Hoodbhoy’s initiative with “The black hole” is much appreciated. At least there is one forum in Pakistan where people with critical thinking can freely discuss ideas and speak the truth.
Partition is a tragic and painful subject but we must face it with honesty and empathy for the victims.
Wish, in India we have a forum like this soon.
@@somnathde8680 India has never tried to actively control the narrative. We were never taught in our schools that only Hindus suffered because of the partition. We were told Partition was an unfortunate event where people from all the religions and walks of life have suffered and perished.
yes.
but i think he ignored one fact. That is the involvement and raid of pushtoon tribes in the area of Rawalindi and especially in thoa khalsa.
@@kanaka7552from the Indian's I have met, you guys live in a fantasy world. But pretend otherwise, and claim a childish moral high ground.
This also proves Jinnah & Iqbal Gang supported worst of Jihadi mindset people in Muslim society.
1:03:44 A very good question, in very decent and smart choice of words, but reaching at the heart of the problem!
Agree. But the speaker either ignored it, or the answer seemed incomplete.
شکریہ اہم معلومات فراہم کرنے کا
Jazakum Allah. May we be surrounded by critical thinkers
After ranjeet singh, Sikh become elite class in this region (Potohar and Rawalpindi) and it's natural that their behavior with poor muslims is not good after 2nd world some Muslims also become wealthy due to their bravery in 2nd world war for british then they want to take elite status from Hindus and sikhs this is the background
but u see Indian Punjab and Haryana are way ahead of Pakistan Punjab, and they became elite because of there merit but partition of india is best thing happened to india , if muslim weren't partitioned into Pakistan Bangladesh and india , india would have been a failed state
Exactly. Once Sikhs took over the area, they became rulers and occupied most the productive lands. The reason for riots lie deep in the resentment. It just needed some triggers.
Shukerya sir
Let The Black Hole create a whatsapp group officially for the people from the subcontinent for critical thinking and for rational thinkers.
Interesting 🤔 thanks so knowledgeable video
Thankyou for sharing these untold stories
TBH is doing a great service to enlighten the masses. Keep it up.
Very informative Programm
Fascinating. Thank you so much for shedding light on this very sad and hidden part of our history.
i think The Black Hole is one the best channel i came crossed.thank u very much Dr Parviz Saab for initiative.
Truly an eye opening session.
Scary narration of the true events by Sajjad Azhar. Administration of that time purposefully didn't take any action so that the division widens between people. Anything taken with people's sorrows will not be a happy place to live, not surprised with present conditions of the place called Pakistan! Feeling sorry for all those families (irrespective of region or religion) who lost their loved ones and houses. Partition has taken many innocent lives. Heart weeps. People are not learning from history.
good to say irrespect of region and religion. We must condemn every sort of criminal activity.
Feel sorry for yourself, not Pakistan. Pakistan is developed far more than where it was in 1947.
The thousands of communal, religious and caste riots that have killed tens of thousands in India have nothing to do Pakistan. You people are busy killing each other, but have your head buried in the sand.
I pity you.
True knowledge of history of our present pakistan is an eye opener, specially the part played by district Rawalpindi.
@@tufailmohammad8851 it's nothing but typical Pakistani self loathing.
Others try to lie, and hide about their history, Pakistanis love blowing everything out of proportion, it's really pathetic.
Very pity to say, Sajjad Azhar sb that due to one's weak knowledge about jinnah Sb and pakistan movement one should not comment on national issue. The point is Was Hindu and Sikh leadership or Congress wanted a separate country for muslim majority regions? Sajjad sb you please focus on it and try not undermine Jinnah Sb and pl try to correct your Urdu talafuz
Great research for public awareness
Astonished to find that lot of inteligent pteople like you are there in Pakistan ❤❤❤❤❤❤
بہت عمدہ گفتگو👏👏👏👏
Which subject u are like
This is different intelligence and intellectual part of Pakistan ❤..
What a knowledgeable coversation
Saree fasadaath ke jadh ek he hai aor wo hai musalmaan hypocrisy .....no khud jeena ata hai no dosroon ko jeene deta hai.
muslim civilisation is death/after life centric . hindu civilisation is life/consciousness centric. It requires mind to turn inward & address the foundational concept.
زبردست ڈسکشن
Love this program.
Thanks Dr Sajjad ji,
An eye opener naked TRUTH.
Hope your message shall bring peace.
love you listening, very inspiring
Reason myself from Pindi
Most tragic and shameful incidents of Punjab history. There must be a reconciliation process. The learned speaker says Thoha Khalsa and Choa Khalsa is same. These are different. Overall good effort.
Very informative, learned a lot in 1.3 hours, lot of very relevant information.
علمی معلومات
Sir,
The partition not only affected the people who migrated one place to another but it also hit local people as the majority of the people with high consumptions left their regions.
We Muslims Never Accept Realities. I wish…….
Eye opening show. Very scary story. My prayers for the departed souls. Om shanti 🙏🙏
Very impressive narration. I congratulate the speaker for his indepth knowledge about partition of India.
Dr. Sajjad Azhar well done, I heard about the rahoit of Kahuta from my parents. I saw the city. Really all over the Pakistan Government did not pay any attention to save historical places and now are ruined.
Good to see such intellectual people in pakistan
sir
there are intelectual people in Pakistan but they badly criticised and some how forced to leave country. This is an ideal place to promote religious fundamentalsm.
Intellectual people should not be partial. Hindus do not shower flowers on Indian Muslims n Kashmiri Muslims. Tit for tat is human nature.
اعلیٰ ۔
The reasons for non-violence in Baluchistan and Sindh are quite understandable. The relations between the two communities were more harmonious, and the poverty was on both sides of the aisle. In Punjab and in particular Rawalpindi, the relations were tense because both were living side by side. The urban commercial life of Rawalpindi was dominated by the Hindu community, the landed elite were mostly Sikhs, while the Muslims were on the fringes of the system. So there was a clear economic dividing-line between the Hindu-Sikh and their Muslim counterparts.
Therefore muslims were justified in committing genocide of hindus and sikhs?
Very humble and gentle speaker❤️❤️
Very interesting and frank talk.
An excellent effort to get lesson for future by studying history.
very good speech in history.
thank you.
There is an extremely thin line between civilisation and barbarism. Entire societies can plunge into madness and savagery. The ethnic cleansing that went on during Partition is an open wound between India and Pakistan that has no signs of healing. Talking about what happened is a small step in the right direction.
Thanks to Jinnah.
Be it with unprovoked planned massacre of Hindus in Calcutta, or massacre of Sikhs & Hindus around Rawalpindi, Jinnah's Muslim League ( supported by majority of Muslim elite of undivided India) Goons started the violence for achieving their aim of creating Pakistan. Source: Dr. Ishtiyaq Ahmed ( Pakistani Historian)
Even in 2023 India, muslims pelt stones on Hindu religious processions . Most recent example: Nuh District India. Islamist mindset doesn't believe in coexistence
This also proves Jinnah & Iqbal Gang supported worst of Jihadi mindset people in Muslim society.
The 'riots' which were started by 'Hindus' and 'Sikhs' at partition r still going on in 'India'. 'Riots' of Punjab in 1984, 'Riots' in Gujrat in 2002, Riots in Delhi last year and 'Riots' in Manipur now r just next episodes of those. Its called Karma, these 'riots' never happened in Pak after Partition, 'lanat' hehe
Inspiring topic
Shukriya bhai jaan...
Amazing research,
Musalman want to build Mosque, every where but don't allow others to build their relegious places.
Well tum jhothay ho there are mandirs in every Muslim country Dubai all over Middle East Egypt and Many in African Muslim countries same in Pakistan too yes the case of Islamabad about mandir it was shameful as Muslim also condemn this
Did never read in history books, Amazing facts of religious clashes so concealed.
It is really wonderful work, as my parents are from the pak Punjab appeal me a lot..
Well done too good I am enlightened. QA when saw that Hindus were not willing to give basic rights to the Muslims with in one country he decided to get India divided.
Sir thank you very much
پاکستان کی صوبہ سرحد میں 14 اگست کو کوئی فساد نہیں ہوتا لیکن جب آذادی کے چند دن بعد ہی جناح صاحب نے صوبہ سرحد میں ڈاکٹر خان صاحب کی منتخب کو برطرف کیا تو وہاں بھی کمیونل فسادات شروع ہو گئے۔
Hi Shahid, r u from Jammu ?
Excellent program, really enjoyed
the village name where Sikh ladies jumped into a well was
THOHA Khalsa
not
Choha Khalsa
Very informative ....
A great post.
Besides other factors,in my opinion, mulana Ishaq was the main culprit behind whole massacre of pre &post partition. How said & heart breaking it is. Before this man, everyone was living peacefully 😢
The science of “Basic Reason” behind an historical event dictates; find the most powerful if they’re not behind it or in any form are not happy about the event that might help bring about their dream come true. Here we think the Pindi riots or other all over India had British blessings to speed-up their goal of neutralising the previous enemies ie, Sikhs and Muslims by bringing them to; “fight each other don’t come after us!”
Bravo! An excellent program that is full of never-before-heard information. Thank you!
Very informative historical information but really very painful as well.
British archives are reliable? The brit records supported the loyal Sikhs who were granted contracts and lands confiscated from Muslims in 1859. Go to the Nicholson monument and ask the local communities.
In Pakistan, very few people have started revisiting the real cause of partion between India and Pakistan.There is a sincere attempt to analyse the real cause from pakistani prospective. it is really a welcome and very courageous step to undo this unnatural partition in this sub continent.
sajid ajhar behad kam musalman hai jo sach boltey hai aap unmesey ek hai aap apnee book hindustn mey bhee publish karey hindi and panjabi mey feer ek baar apkey hosley ko daad deta hoo jo sach bolney kee himmat rakhta hai
Dr. Amerjeet Singh, a leading diaspora khalistani activist calls these communal riots an act of madness from both sides in the punjab.
Khalistan Zindabad! Pakistani Punjab should be converted into Khalistan with Lahore as the Capital
کیا انسان۔۔۔۔نہیں نہیں مسلمان اتنا سفاک ہو سکتا ہے؟
How are the two periods linked? The mosque/cinema issue, and the independence period?
I fail to see the link.
Thank you sir for your incredible research and videography. Our young generation needs this.
After learning all this what is the lesson learned and what further steps are taken lessons of History
EXCELLENT discussion and extracting the fact such fact should be told to Pak society
we need to transfer the true knowledge to our future generations. Unfortunatly our syllabus is based on one sided facts and fictional stories.
Honestly we Pakistani who know history knew these facts trust me
It's amazing, very informative well done
The other side of the facts should also be reflected. One sided story cannot be digested.
The 1926 guru Arjun armed processions were meant to intimidate Muslims to remind them how they were punished after 1857 and loyal Sikh "masters" imposed and enriched to subjugate and lord it over the local Muslims.
कितना शांतिपूर्ण मज़हब है
Tu hai hara mi pure 100% hara mi
Mera gurgaon ka pahpa dost rahul sharma ki family Gujar khan se gae ha .
Khubsurat culture ko tabah kia apne
hathon se ham ne.
Lanat ho partition py Zaleel kia logon ko.
Koe soch sakta ha k AJ k pindi k log Buddhists thy 300 saal phle AJ kya se kya ho gea.
Great speech sir. especially for society in history
مدلل ، جامع اور حقیقت پر مبنی۔
Very informative.
Problem is that Rawalpindi Cantt was largest Cantt of whole India but Royal British Army never moved from Cantt during killing.
Good talk.
Hello Sajjad Azhar - Would you please share the name of your book. and also if you could share the article you are referring to during your lecture.
Thanks
Great forum for discussion. Appreciated from India.
Responsibility is with MK Gandhi, Jinnah and Nehru,who had agreed for partition without knowing the consequences. Also your peaceful dieen which directs you to do jihad and annihilation of non muslims. Mohamad bin Qasim, abdali, are your role models .
Surely this will be very informative and interesting book.
Thanks for admitting the truth
Shocking...this not taught in india at all
It’s not taught in Pakistan so how will it be taught in India? Isn’t that what the speaker was saying, that it was all hushed up by the British rulers at that time?
Very good sitting. But the main thing that needs to be addressed is what was the role of administration to stop this violence. If Mountbatain comes from Delhi to view the places. The question should be arises , what was the role of his policie and army to prevent it. Unfortunately, speaker and audience just neglect this point.