Reviving Pakistan - Back to Our Roots | Amin Hashwani and Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy
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- čas přidán 21. 02. 2023
- Debates around our current challenges is politicised, reactionary, and short term. Most of our issues are interlinked and a broader social, historical and cultural perspective is needed along with the economics. The question is not so much about if we have the capability to address these challenges but the capacity to collectively work together to overcome them.
About the Speaker:
Amin Hashwani is a businessman, social activist, an analyst and a poet. He has founded and continues to support initiatives in the field of health, education, women empowerment, disability, youth, culture and societal harmony. Internationally, he has promoted peace between nations and societies, organised cultural and media events, spoken at conferences, universities, think tanks, and the United Nations. He has an honorary Doctorate and was nominated as the 25 ‘Intelligent Optimists’ globally by Ode magazine.
Pakistan was growing better than India intialy not because Pakistanis were doing great it was because American and British pouring money into it. Asian Tiger 🐯 is just a name given to appease people and top leadership.
Wig Lga Kr Kb Tak Ek Chuha Tiger Bnega🤣
GDP of pakistan was beyond exception.
@@1haxxan1 & why was it so?
Children's learn from deeds of the guardiinswho in their turn learn from maulana where as they want learning from words.
Jinnah uprooted the Muslims from the root of their original root to form Pakistan.
Story of pakistan:
1. Land from india
2.religion from arab(converted)
3.punjabi speaking urdu from india
4. Role model gauri , gaznavi ,mughal, bin laden,
5.national song in farsi
6. Favourite show turkish.
My grandmother's age is more than pakistan .
Excellent mapping of pak realities
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😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cultural confusion 😂
Watching from India because we always get some critical analysis of our Country from your side. Beg to differ from Amin’s views where he justifies huge expenditure on your Military to counter perceived threat from India. In fact majority of Indians view Akhand Bharat a myth. Our PM is on record stating “we don’t want this to happen because India will then become a Muslim majority country “( with all the tragic consequences like your country is facing now). Pakistan is not of any relevance to us. Right now our priority is Development & to compete with China and play our rightful role in World affairs.
Early 1960 pakistan was called Asian Tiger by looting resources and foreign export revenue from East Bengal and systemetically made east bengal as 2nd poorest part of the world and burden of pakistan because bengal & people of bengal never treated as equal but bengal was treated as a colony of pakistan.
Same happening with balochis today
Completely agree. Looting East Pakistan and rest of the friendly countries too. Looting has become Pakistan’s DNA.
Wrong. If that Indian propaganda were true, why did Bangladesh only surpass Pakistan economically in 2015, forty years after independence? Pakistan would have declined spectacularly and Bangladesh soared high soon after independence (1971) if we were exploiting their resources.
@@ibratnak that showd your stupidity. Do you think it's easy like switching on a light bulb? It takes time to rebuild destroyed countries.
@@bulthaosen1169 On the contrary, it showed your desperation to put Pakistan down. Yes it takes time, but not 40 years.
I understand Pakistanis have to maintain an anti-India bias but this is the most superficial speaker, I have listened to in this series.
Man, You Just Hit The Bullseye 🎯 Great 👍
Superficial is mild, STUPID is the proper
He is a stooge of the Establishment ( please Google about his credentials)
Exactly bhai....and we have many Dhimmi stupids/Dumbs are going gaga on these english madarsa chap jiohadist/islamist halalis
Could you backup your statement with one single thing he said!
Professor Hoodbhoy was praising India's school pedagogy whereas many in India think we have a long path to cover in inculcating true levels of critical thinking. I wonder what is taught in Pakistani schools!
We are not taught to hate India.... why do Indian politicians always hate Pakistan? Our politics never includes India.
Jihad😂😂
My mother In law family were living in big house and they lost everything including jewellery and had returned to India. His father carried the one musical instrument. they were asked to leave behind everything otherwise they will be killed.
Thésé Líberàl Léftísts Wíll Tàg Yóu As A Ràdícàl Híndú. Módí Bhàkt, RSS Ka Agént.
@Karara Jawaab no body needs to tag me anything and i do not care
I just stated a fact.
@@nalinikoutha2091 Unfortunately, Global Lèft & Líberal Gàng Don’t Care About The Fact.
They Just Wanna Spread Their Narrative.
Congress Has Never Tríed To Become Vòíce Of Híndùs Suffèrèd In Pakístàn & Banglàdesh.
BJP Is No Less.
@@wanderingnomad1 Thanks God! U Called Me A “Clòwn”, Not A “Pakístàní”.
My grandfather was a landlord in Pakistan, had to move to Hindustan and he became a daily labor. My grandmother died in poverty. Muslims demanded Pakistan and remained in Hindustan and Sikhs / Hindus had to leave everything behind for Muslims.
It's really surprising to see the poor quality of intelligentsia in Pakisatan.
May God help that country from such people.
In same sentence in same tone he criticised india for imaginary persecution of minorities while praised China turning blind eye to uighurs😂😂
China is a role model and India is going towards fascism.... 😂😂😂😂😂
They gave inate hate towards hindus
Condition of minorities in India: Oh! so bad. It makes me sad.
Condition of minorities in China: Oh! China brought 700M out of poverty.
Bhai wo so called intellectual biased hai!!
I Was Surpríséd.
He Was Tàlkíng Abóút Democracy And Suddenly He Bróught Chína In The Díscússíon. I Thóúgh Hé's So Bràvé. He's Gónnà Crítícísé Chínà Fór Havíng Nó Démécracy 😂
Hé Actúally Praíséd Chínà As Íf Hé Sàw Allàh In Xí Jínpíng. 🤣
India also lift up 260 million people from poverty but they see only china
I am 16yrs old from Nagpur , Maharashtra 🇮🇳🍁 I love to watch this channel 😄 😀 ❤
( Why you have to be Anti India to potray yourself as Pakistani ? Modi Ji is the best pm )
Pakistan can search it's identify in anti india
Bro he is leftist..he can't praise a righ party and it's leader
because despite their pretentions to be critical thinkers .... they are too indoctrinated to escape their own deluded thinking
@@surian9286 Pakistan DNA is faulty, to really improve they have changed their DNA, they are suffering from genetic disorder from birth.
Your attitude is what he is addressing. Fascism.
Thanks to Dr Hoodbhoy for injecting sanity and candor into the discussion. This speaker seems to have huge blinkers.
The speaker came here as a mouthpiece of their dirty army. May be Hoodboy ji was forced on a gunpoint to invite him.😂😅
Hoodbhoy himself is a great muzzi.. has 4 bibi and lots of children
@@media-rn6zc After all he is a muslim.
Amin’s concept of comparing a citizen with a shareholders is a positive thought but being a business he has horrible understanding of the recent history of Pakistan in believing that they were a economic tiger…. Really by begging for aids and borrowed funds from IMF and zakat from Saudi, UAE , Kuwait and Chinkis … how come a successful business man could make such a mistake. Professor brought some realistic sense in the discussion.
Pakistan is the result of the same fascism, speaker describing so passionately.
Khitte Ki Poori Pahchaan Hi Badal Di, Tabhi To Pakistan Bana Tha.
Most critics of India are from outside the country, apart from the opposition of course. These critics just do not know anything about the country. India has 1.4 billion people! About 20% are Muslims who generally happen to do much much better than the Muslims of Pakistan. There are no fights or killings of Sunni, Shia, Ahmadi, or other offshoots of Islam. Hindus per se are secular by build. If they had the same thought process of a Muslim, there wouldn't be any Muslims left in India. You see the point?
Alas even Dr Hoodbhoy and the likes in Pakistan develop the ability to digest this ground reality fact in India.....and that Hinduism has no parallel with Islam....so even the extreme right wing polity sect is much less conservative than the 'enlightened' Muslim liberals in Pakistan...we don't have any Asmani Holy Book to be adhered with....
India should have expelled most Muslims to Pakistan just as Pakistan expelled most Hindus from Pakistan.
Mr. Narendra Modi's populism is based on his own untiring work for the betterment ofindian population, is based on his belief of our long standing ancestry & civilisation & most of all his non corrupt governance.All these points makes him a popular leader. His stature on world political arena is also increasing day by day.
Also his hindutva and his die hard fans in primarily hindi heartland where the education level is about same as Pakistan which tells something.
@@Bengalifirst What about nationalists in Bengali Heartland, I have heard Bengal has become the New York of the East.
@@wokerocks true ! But not as much still there is enough people who opposes autocracy and promote decency unfortunately we are stuck between a rock and hard place where one side is communal bjp thugs who were once tmc other side corrupt tmc thugs! In middle bongs 😂
@@wokerocks bhai don’t get angry it’s just an observation . You can google and check facts koi foreign govt ka data nehi apna Indian govt ka data hein.
@@BengalifirstI don’t think Hindi heartland is educationally that backward. I understand it needs to catchup though.
But with Mr. Modi, I can say that he is a polarising figure but on few points I give him credit.
- Decision making made faster
- Internal and External security is way better. Don’t hear bomb blasts except one or two in J&K.
- Foreign policy is much better.
- some of the national issues were settled for good. Though they can be debated.
Yes modi is rewriting indias history which should have written before u better concern with your own country
Maxíst Hístory Of Indía Starts With Peaceful Muhammad Bin Kasím And Ends At Progressive Lord Mountbatten.
Son:
Dad what is Hypocrisy?
Dad:
1. Hypocrisy is when 90% of a community votes in 1946 for creating pakistan but do not migrate to pakistan in 1947.
2.Hypocrisy is when 75% according to Pew Research Centre want sharia law but call themselves secular.
Well India is not much different specially under current govt. apparently right wing thugs hate secularism.jai sri ram bhai !
Ye Pada _electronic Thappad_ Peaceful Community Ko🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
*Hypocrisy is when they call islam is a religion of piece*
@@deveshrawat154 It’s Not Hípócrísy. Islàm *Is* Religíon Of *_Piece_* , Not *Peace.*
_That’s Why They Shout Sír Tan Se Juda. What Does It Mean? Means They Want To Cùt All Kaafírs Intó 2 Píècè._
@@deveshrawat154 a geye bhai sahab jai sri ram bolke . Sir apne ko dekhiye apneko acha kijiye dunea thik hoga jab apme itna nafrat bhara hua hein to app keya expect karte hein apko log samman karenge? I am an hindu i have so many muslim friends bhai apni religion apni jaga aur insaniet apni jaga.
Pervez hoodbhoy nailed it by calling pakisatani army for all the problems they are facing. It needs sheer guts to talk against the army.
The speaker displays severe cognitive dissonance at every level.
1. Anchoring the Pakistani identity to 1947. The degree of myopia and the sheer disregard of human history and cultural efflorescence in this assumption is stunning.
2. The constant value judgement of India. Calling India a fascist state, while sitting in a country that actually cleansed its minorities and teaches Islamic Supremacism in its school textbooks. And, in the same breath, admiring another fascist state China that has also subjugated and cleansed every kind of identity that does not conform with the Han Chinese identity.
3. He conveniently calls America and Israel as occupiers that would not allow the status quo to alter. All the while not questioning what Muslims are doing in the subcontinent. Did they migrate into the land? Were they refugees? No, the Muslims are occupiers of equal calibre, if not of a worse kind. The Jews and the Europeans in America at least brought their women with them, rather than ravaging the womenfolk of this traumatized land.
4. "Scandinavian countries are more Islamic than Pakistan", "Women Rights are paramount in Islam", What??? And these statements were quoted several times unchallenged. Maybe that is the cool-aid they are selling in Pakistan. While the real Muslim in Scandinavia dreams of Sharia. Even the fountainhead of Islam, Saudi, is steadily moving away from this ideology.
These are some that I could retain.
But, overall his rationality is marred with blatant erroneous facts (some that Mr. Hoodbhoy rectified) and he is unwilling to even acknowledge them.
Maybe, in this time of sheer crisis one should remove themselves from their current identity and start looking the situation a priori. At least get down from the high horse and introspect humbly. But, it seems rock bottom is yet to arrive.
I was expecting some depth in the title "Back to our Roots". Apparently, these roots don't go very deep, neither does anyone want to explore them. However, the impending storm is an unprecedented one.
Feel sad for the powerless masses in this land. Unending suffering since a millennia and even more so within the last 75 years.
One should not be pessimistic, but this is a decade of consequence. I would advise the Indian Government to prepare the western border to deal with the refugee outflow when it happens.
i agree with u. Govt should seal border with pakistan
Very well summarized. I felt the same about today's speech by this guy.
Worst kind of speaker in this forum I saw. No depth in his thoughts, very very superficial.
Great 👌👌👌
This monkey sounded like the Paki bureaucrats talking with an agenda in mind while appearing well spoken and educated 😂😂
I like how Hoodboy sir has kinda taken over the stage when he realizes the main speaker was kind of steering away from the truth and tried to present stuff in broad strokes completely grazing away from the actual topic which is to go back to the roots.
Pervez is brutally honest sometimes
And you are brutally Tuchiya !!! Did you Not listen his bs many times and typical drawing parallels
@@csheru and who are you? Einstein?
He is a scientist first, then everything else. Pervez understands “good data” from propaganda and is not afraid to call it out.
The physicist in scholarly Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy shines through. His kind of intellect is possible only through scientific education. He is brutally honest when he discusses his experiences in India. There is no comparison between the two counties. Thank you for constantly brutally busting your guest’ false narrative regarding India.
He himself is pretty ignorant about India , watch other shows and you'll know ..
But he possess the better intellect amongst them ..
@@divyanshusingh2145 Out of those two he is clearly the better one. Andhon mai kanha raaja is an apt analogy here.
Hard Sciences strive for objective empirical reality. Let’s take relativity, underlying that, there are “invariants”. True science tries to understand the invariants.
Social scientists who have misunderstood relativity think anything goes because they mistake relativity as absence of an invariant truth
Even black hole viewers are indian🇮🇳🇮🇳...... The participants don't watch, no one made any comments in this session
This is the reason they are a failed nation….they can’t listen….they don’t have acceptance…
The listeners raised some very pertinent questions. All the honest answers came from Professor Hoodbhoy.
The responses from Mr. Hashwani were those which he has mugged up as part of his narrative. This inspite of his claims to be in favour of critical thinking!
The speaker does not rate the delivery of promises by PM Modi. Therein lies the problem of his analysis. He has not only delivered on his political promises but also delivered on raising the bar of food security of the poor, increasing economic development, inclusion of women and marginalized in the economic process. One of his successes is bringing Jammu & Kashmir into the mainstream administrative realm. He has delivered. While it may not be palatable to some, the country at large accepts his delivery of what he promises. As they say, Modi hai to mumkin hai. People see this as happening. While there has been no leader in Pakistan who has delivered thus, I understand that it would be difficult for them to comprehend this.
Well there comes the supremacist Islami mindset, how can a Hindu nation get ahead of us, if they are making progress let's not talk about the positives and brush it in the dustbin saying "there is fascism in India".
Modi has not delivered industrialization and jobs. Modi has not delivered governance and judicial reforms. GST was rolled out terribly, and it is still terrible.
@@patmclaughlin107 Have you compared the rate of industrial production of India to that of EURO ZONE or USA or CHINA in the last 18 months? It may be a light bulb moment for you. Judicial reforms is being opposed by the judiciary themselves. I understand that reforms are not popular and the political dispensation does have to pay a price for it. GST was a requirement not a luxury for it to be deferrred and wait for an ideal moment to start. I say, good job by the current government of the day but more needs to be done, we will be pressing the government to do more, by participating with it.
If pakistan revert Hindu, peace will be restored immidiately.
Becoming Hindu will require real courage. If they get that much courage they will become real Musalmaan which is such a pious gold standard word. I am really pained as Hindu to see our derouted brothers and sisters in such helpless disarray.
@@SanSha2100 Was or is there any real musalmaan?
Are we all hindu? Because this region belongs to hindus and you can see most surname are hindu ?
Plz dont make mistake cz of their surnames…. These people are brainwashed in thousands of madarsas all over Pakistan to kill Hindus 😱😱😱😱😱😱
Judgemental na hon sir. Stay positive and take positive lessons from this lecture. Thanks
@@safdarakbari What To Tàke Positive Sír.
These Are So Many UTube Channels Where Jaahíl People Crítícísé Híndu & Indía. We Dón't Go And Commént There.
We Cóme Here On Thís Channél To Léàrn Something Pósítivé & Ratíonàl.
Unfortunately, Here Also, These Sélf Déclàréd Intellectuals Are Rúiníng Thís Forúm Thróúgh Theír Bígótry.
@@safdarakbari Hoodbhoy is also a rabid anti hindu mongrel I believe. With Ishtiaq Sir, he always tried to undermine the scale of Hindu Sikh deaths and rapes during partition
@@safdarakbari judgemental hone ki bat nhi hai....... Firstly change ur history books.. Jisme hindu ke bare m jo likha hai...... Secondly all pakistani says muslim pr julm hota... 1947 mai muslim population nd aaj kitni hai bo check kar lo... And Pakistan mai be hindu ki population check kr lo... 1947 mai kitni thi aaj kitni hai... All war started by Pakistan says ur authors.. Nd check fact.... India ne kbi kisi countary par kbi attack nhi kiya so... 🙏🙏🙏🙏..... India ke khilaaf kuch bologe reaction apko milega........ Fact hai koi to bat kro... Brna... Bina mtlb ke topic par discuss mat kro... Jo false narrative bta rhe ho...
Pakistan is an Islamic republic. It's citizens are often asked not to question the country's working culture quoting reference of their religious scriptures. Common people do not know about their rights of equality, freedom, education, constitutional remedies, right against exploitation and freedom of speech granted in a true democracy. Otherwise, people would have reformed this country long back through effective criticism.
Agreed with you sir for all that you have written above, Pakistan would have been better off if it was Republic of Pakistan instead of Islamic Republic of Pakistan…… the question is that every Pakistani should ask how a country can be Islamic and Republic at the same time?
@@mohsinafzaal7159 @ashok kumar - both of you made excellent points! Thank you soo much!
"Islamic republic" is itself an oxymoron.
I think from Dr.Hoodbhoy's expression that he is grinning and bearing it. Am sure he is already deeply regretting inviting this guy.
Black Hole is incomplete without Tarek Fatah, Tahir Gora, Hamid Bashani, Afaq Farooqi, Hussain Haqqani.
they will get killed in Pakistan today
In his view secularism as anti Islam is bad, and the same happening in India where people are practising their identity is anti secularism and fascism. Hypocrisy of these so called intellectuals in Pakistan is no less harm to Pakistani society.
🙂 How India is becoming a fascist state ??? Present some figures.
Is retaliating to pak's terror activities makes India a fascist state ??
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Dear Dr. Prevez, I'm from India and quite regularly watch the discussions on The Black Hole. To be frank, I never found you as candid about your views on India Pakistan relationship as in this debate. I'm not impressed because I am an Indian and you spoke in favour of India. The thing is, you spoke truth and that too quite bluntly. Pakistan's biggest problem is its obsession with Islam coupled with its belief that all kafirs are inferior. It's okay to love your religion, but to have a feeling of contempt towards other religions is unacceptable. I ❤your statement that Hindus are aboriginals of this land. I pray that more sane voices like you come up in Pakistan; as that would go a long way in making your country prosperous and peaceful. Amen!!
1:26:00 Dr. Hoodbhoy is such a gem. He is a National treasure and I wished he was Indian. He is trying to change the mindset that has been corrupted by 70 years of islamisation with his brilliance and brutal honesty. I really wish to hear him in person one day.
Gem??? He is jihadist and islamist in disguise , he wants to trace his origins from Yunnan & Greeks . He draws parallels between Bharat and porkistan
He can't come to India, so you should go to Pakistan.
Not impressed with the speaker. He is simply doing a plain criticism of system like some Pakistani youtube channels do. I don't see him showcasing "Back to the Roots"
99% of the talk by Amin was critical of Pakistan’s political parties, society and establishment. His one passing comment about India has generated 99% of the reaction on this link….all negative and all from India. And the negativity is not only about his comments, but also about Pakistan, it’s people, and it’s religion! His Rumi comment about changing oneself equally appropriate for India as well.
Dear Umair, Although I'm an Indian but I've no malice towards Islam or Pakistan pre se, so please take my rely positively. You are right that 99% of Amin's talks were critical of Pakistan's present status, but then why were there so may negative reactions about his one passing remark about India. Umair, you need to appreciate that Pakistan's biggest problem is its obsession with Islam and the resultant hatred towards India, rather Hindu-India. Amin's 1% statement manifested this obsession of a typical Pakistani and this diluted all his 99% positive statements. Hence, the reactions...
Dr. Hoodbhoy jaise genius aur zamin se jude log agar ek sath aaye to Pakistan ki tarakki hokar rahegi..
It's a fallacy to say that Pakistan was ever an "Asian tiger". It never had a manufacturing or technology base compared to its size. It was always agrarian with large landholders - no land reform was ever undertaken. Instead, Pakistan always pushed it's strategic location right from Jinnah onwards for which It was richly but sporadically rewarded. Those rewards made it appear successful and prosperous. Right now, that income stream has dried up and you can see the results.
One more thing. Modi is a nationalist. He is not a populist. That's a completely incorrect reading. Indians vote for Modi because he performs and because he works hard for his country.
The main problem in Pakistan is dual citizenship.. And no one raise this ques on any platform... I think its just bcz abt 99% of intellectuals of Pakistan have dual citizenship... Means they already have a backup plan if Pakistan fails.... Means while taking others country's citizenship they are already knowing that Pakistan is a failed state for them... But even after that they have the audacity to talk about nationalism...
Back to our roots... What does even it means... That's also the problem they don't have any roots..
Comment about India being intolerent in recent times is misleading...There is no fascism here...we are living happily here...The problem with Pakistan analyst is only this when they try to criticize Pakistan, they just take the name of India for the sake of criticism. There is no comparision between us...
@ 01:35:00 I 'm an Indian. But, thank you Dr Parvez for being so magnanimous to the spirited Schoolteacher. You did what a true Guru from our common ancient culture would do.
For him Yunan and greek are cultures , please do not go gaga on this jihadist and islamist in disguise
common my foot, these Pakistanis dont agree with you, they think they came from arab
Hoodbuoy is a true muzzi.. char bibi aur chalis bacche
Pakistanis don't have guts to critisize PRC, KSA and UAE... these countries are neither secular nor democracratic.
In 1960's Pakistan is not an Asian tiger, but Punjabis riding on Bengal tigers. Once those tiger found a way out, they were riding on donkeys thinking that it can substitute the lost Bengal tigers.
Dr Sahib it is always a pleasure to hear your sane view and lonely voice. May God bless you with good health and long life.
Sane Voice ?? Maha Chutiya hai , pakka Jihadist and Islamist halala mutah misyar product
1:03:30
Salute you sir for telling truth 🙏🇮🇳
Just stop terrorism
You can't be a successful Industrialist or businessman in Pakistan without sucking up to the Establishment.
I disagree with Hoodbhoy sahab on one point -- that Kashmir/India is the ONLY reason for an oversized Army... What about Afghanistan?
The fact is that majority of the Afghans believe their "territory" extends to Attock, near Islamabad 😁
Pakistan's LEGITIMATE "existential threat" is not India, but actually Afghanistan...!!
Bharath that is india is going to emerge.. don’t need to worry for us..
Now I fully understand why Major Gaurav arya calls pakistanis a “jahil quam”, even the so called intellectuals and business man like Mr amin calls indian government a fascist , shows a lot about pakistanis. How barely he touches the minority treatment in pakistan just to say that india is treating its minorities bad. I don’t think he has the qualities as said by Mr parvez. India is reclaiming its past glory ., Guys get your acts together.
This is supremacist Islami ideology at play, the businessman cannot say that India is progressing because his Islami DNA won't allow him to appreciate the efforts and progress of a Hindu country from where his elders seperated.
He won't talk about India's progress but brush it all down the dustbin saying "there is fascism in India".
They are wired to base all their beliefs in venom against pagans.. so even teh educated one will hav that inherent hate against India & hindus
so called Asian tiger 🐅
Asian Gutter
I've seen this time and again ..various speakers daemonizing modi...but the fact is no history books have been changed. In-fact thats the main complaint for various associate parties ..that he hasnt changed the history books !! And FYI our history textbooks are Delhi centric , which needs to change..india is not delhi and delhi is not india.
India also lift up 300 million people from poverty last 16 years
He won't talk about that bhai , the Islami inside him can't see a kaafir country which his forefathers left, progress and make its name in the world, this so called "intellectual" businessman didn't say a word about India's progress and the steps taken by Modi government, but was very quick in brushing it all down saying "fascism is there in India".
Fascinating discussion. The gentleman in check shirt made a critical/vital comment. It is a criminal act to teach children that death is the aim of life!
I have never seen an intellectual discussion in Pakistan without words like muslim, Islam or Allah 😂😂
Listened to this at 2x speed. Even after 50 minutes, bhai ne saari taraf raita faila lakha hai. Polar bears aur melting ice caps bhi mention kar do.
I have seen lot of Parvez hoodboy programs in CZcams,,, I admire him for his frank and sinciere and open approach,,,,
But I am afraid he is aganist 2 big wall's
Islam on one side and western liberal utopia
He is fascinated by India and Nehruviam model
But he dosent seem to know much abt indian real cultural values,,,,he sees india in a Nehruviam lens,,,
Best of luck Pervezji,,, I admire your courage
I am sceptic,,,
Ikr throughout is conversation it seemed like reading book and not so practical a book which would suggest number of things only 2 percent could be done practically
Jai Modiji !! Jai BJP !! Jai Hind !! Jai Shankar
After 75 years they are still contemplating which model to adopt.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's sad to see the number of attendees...
It's what a Pakistani is....
Even in India we have such politics....
But go on Sir
With your discussion..we are with you and ....
Whatever...
Keep on going Sir..,.
By listening the guest, one can comfortably draw inferences that the Pakistani liberal intellectuals have not yet come out of the hindu hatred syndrome and supermacist attitude. Their conflicting ideological thoughts such as aspiring for democracy and praising the dictatorial military rules is a classical example of intellectual bankruptcy. This gentleman too is one of them. He is not intellectually capable enough to pass judgment on Modi and Indian electorates. Intellectual like Ishaque Dar is considered better economist than Miftah Ismail is another example of intellectual bankruptcy. If smart economist like Ishaque Dar would be in India he would have doing no better job than puncture repairing.
No discussion on the roots...just time pass discussion....
This is a great example of why the doctor is so different from the usual Pakistani intellectuals. Hats off to the clarity of his thought process.
14:47 The guest is sad seeing India losing its secularism.. Why avoid you Iron Brother.. what are its credentials?
This guy is all mixed up. Stalin in terms of sheer numbers was the most brutal followed by Mao. Hitler was a distant third. As to Pakistan at one time being considered the Asian Tiger was because as a willing client state of the US it received large amounts of funds which subsequently was misused and looted. Its original agricultural and industrial as well as educational base was run by Hindus, Sikhs and other minorities who were expelled at gunpoint so that the Muslims could loot their wealth.
This pretty much goes with Islamic thought in which living off other peoples wealth and hard work. is its underpinning.
BJP se pahale bhi Pakistan ne India se konsi dushmani nahin nibhai?
Dr. Hoodbhoy said "Indian Kashmir" and quickly corrected himself "Makbooja Kashmir" 😅
He said Pakistan was called the Asian tiger. Did anybody ask , WHY was Pakistan called Asian tiger? He did not speak about any statistics. So which were your within top 100 ranking universities of the world? What were your top exports? Did you setup major tech companies, automobile companies, pharmaceutical companies, what exactly made you Asian tiger?
Modi has changed India which is why it has the best economic prospect according to the IMF. It was the previous Congress that led by emotion and became a dud. Thank God India woke up and got rid of them.
If populism is very bad why India is growing 7% per year
The only thing I can say after hearing this two hour of him is that Paxtaan is a complicated and thoroughly confused nation. Pity that this is still the case 75 years after it came into existence.
Great conversation. One thing I've noticed is often between or at the end of the episode the video starts glitching, completely removed minutes of conversations. Please work on that.
Question: Given the education deficit of last few decades, do you think Pakistan's intellects have will capability to follow your advise to make change and revive it's society? I heard that with mass migration of educated class/young in last few years, is there hope? Thanks.
Education or lack of it is not the cause of the mess.
Radicalization is.
@@solelysoul8543 Next Question Is - Why People Accèptèd Ràdícàlízàtíon Over Peace?
@KararaJawaab it was imposed cruelly, by the sword.
The masses have been MISLED, brainwashed, converted, controlled, deracinated, indoctrinated and enslaved.
@@KararaJawaab because it’s not only externals it’s there in their homes.. in their parenting..
As per IMF, today reported... Hindustan 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 is bright 🔆 spot of world, whereas Pakistan is a black⚫ spot of world in terms of economic contribution...
This explains all....
Pakistan needs to be studied for what not to be done for a nation...
Hindustan is an identity given to us by foreigners. Bharat is our identity that we give ourselves. Refer to the Constitution. "Bharat that is India...."
Stop comparing india with pakistan india is 5 times bigger than pakistan in any department comparison is fundamentally wrong.
Dr Hoodbhoy...You have made a very pertinent point that Hindus in Pakistan are as much Pakistanis as the Muslims. Excellent....My question to you is as follows...Why are children in schools reading text books which demean Hindus.? This has been stated by many CZcamsrs from Pakistan.To the best of my knowledge in India there are no textbooks demeaning Muslims or Islam. Yes..there could be text books with content about the barbaric actions of Mughals..but that is specific to the emperor not to the community or religion.
Please name a book that Jinnah read or wrote. Forget a book, name an opinion piece Jinnah published in a newspaper. This is the root cause of Pakistani nation problems. No vision, borrowed fake identity and false sense of superiority complex. This is the primary problem of Pakistan.
Only Pervez makes sense and is truthful.
India's secularism going into dustbin troubles you Mr speaker, nothing about pakistani Islamic society? What hypocrisy
Exactly WHAT were you Pakistanis in 1947 dear Hashwani sahab?
- i.e your "roots"? Your identity?
You were "Not Indians" - THAT is the REAL thing that unites you all 😁
I watched the entire video. Which part of the video did he speak about root or going back to root? I never heard this word from the speaker. Very shallow speaker without any depth in thought or honesty in words. Sorry, worst episode of this forum.
I have few suggestions about how to bring critical thinking in school
1- have as big library as possible within your resources but make sure books from different countries and cultures are there. In the age of internet this is not impossible.
2. Introduce debates within classes on regular basis but subjects and prospective should be different. For example one child should speak from Pak books other should Indian other form uk and usa etc etc.
This way ability to absorb multiple thought process will develop automatically.
Very few Pakistanis can afford books, those who can, very few give importance to read. The books that you see in the background are often a wall paper.
Sir, dissolution of all identities of self is ultimate goal of any human which is mukti.. Freedom from bondages. ♥️
That is not what Krishna taught on the battlefield.
Pakistan has intellectuals who may have strong head but weak heart hands and legs and Amin is one of them. He is a one eyed king among blind Pakistanis
Spot on
The speaker is having zero knowledge about the change happening in India.India is getting stronger and this guy is not able to digest the fact and cries on fascism. My condolences to Pakistan civil society.
I have a number of questions for Mr Hashwani...He has been very critical of India and its dispensation. The trouble with Pakistan's Govt is their bloated ego. India was in the same mess in 1991 ( economically) . Manmohan Singh and Prime Minister Rao, besides borrowing from IMF they actually took the humiliating step of pledging Indias Gold as security towards borrowings. Later this was redeemed. Pakistans redemption lies in trading directly with India. Instead of Indian onions being shipped to Dubai , then to Karachi and then being transported to Lahore does it not make sense to the Pakistani establishment to purchase through Wagah border? If they want Pakistan to survive its time they swallowed their ego and placed trade with India as 1st priority. However if they wish to go down the Black Hole its their call.
Imagine they got majority of the land of 5 rivers along with 85% of the Indus waters in the west and Land of Ganges and Brahmaputra delta in the east - in arguably the most fertile land anywhere in the world and they had the caliber to make a mess of it..
That's their achievement. Now blaming entire world except themselves
How can we trust pakistan after Kargil incident
For Those Who Wanna Trust Pakístan.
Procedures To Follow -
Open The Head-skull. Take Our The Brain, Fill It Up With Gobàr. Put The Skull Back.
Congratulations, Now You Can Apply Ur Brain & You Will Find Pakístan Trustworthy.
डा. परवेज हुदभाय एक ईमानदार व्यक्ति और विचारों में बिल्कुल स्पष्ट हैं । वह सकारात्मक और रचनात्मक कार्य कर रहे हैं । अमीन हाशवानी साहब का दोहरा चरित्र खुल कर सामने आ गया है ।
First he disses democracy, then asks public to stand up
1:49:30 That Blue-White Checkered Shirt guy Summed up everything!!
They are bothered abt global issues while their house is on fire....😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
Indias chaiwallah did a good job of root revival.
1st reason, One of the main fundamental reason why Pakistan going back ward - - Most of the people of Pakistan don't know that The colonial system of jaghirdar / jamindar was abolished during land reforms in former East Bengal / East Pakistan now (Bangladesh) in 1950,India in 1951 but still it is totally absence in Pakistan.Still Pakistan protecting the colonial system of jaghirdar and General's and estabilishmentse. When 1% ( jaghirdar and Punjabi Ruling Elite and Army Establishment ) of pakistan controls 99 % Pakistan then Nothing will be OK.That 1% was a gift of colonial British mindset.People of East Bengal realised that colonial mindset from 1st day but still people of Pakistan living in Denial mindset of colonialism.2ND Reason why Pakistan going back ward that is majority people of Pakistan are not serious about their country. 3rd reason is that people of Pakistan are sleeping last 75 years but don't want to wake up and those people of East Bengal did wake up and fight for equal rights & justice from first day to 1971 they're now one of the fastest growing nation in the world. 4th fundamental reasin pakistan and the people of pakistan systemetically destroy own identical roots , language ,traditional values and haritage of ethnecity and divercity. Another reason is that people of Pakistan always take short cut policy and their is no long-term futuristic Sustainable development program or plan for future - No Educational & Socioeconomical plan but still waiting for next Sultan or kind of Leader to Grow. Last 75 years Pakistan made a lollypop mindset in Pakistan that Pakistan and people of Pakistan are only greatest and Rightful but rest of the world fake & false . It's a multi organ failure of Pakistan.It's too late to make changes in course correction after 75 years in the DNA of Pakistan.it's a martial race nation and its not a country for the people but it's a country for jaghirdar and General's with colonial setup of mindset and still living in confused Denial mindset and conspiracy mentality and it became self-destructive nation. 1% ( jaghirdar and Punjabi Ruling Elite and Army Establishment ) use Pakistan as a strategic depth to sell own land and sovereignty to the foreign power and create different types of Armed Terror group for Billion USD and destroying neighbor's but when you keeping snake in your backyard and expect them to only bite your neighbor's but that snake bite you too . Pakistan became as a garrison state with colonial setup. Pakistan is an over Militarilise state. It's neither a Islamic nor a democratic country.Socially- Politically - Economically and Mentally Pakistan became Black Hole . If the Grass look greener on the other side of the world. Stop comparing, Stop complaining and Start watering the grass you are standing on.*PAKISTAN SE ZINDA BAAGH *🙈🙉🙊
I am Pakistani with Indian roots, I openly acknowledge vast majority of Pakistanis are indians as we have been part of india for centuries and our earlier forefathers were Hindus part of sanathan dharma. Many Pakistanis now openly recognise they don't have arab/turk/Persian lineage. There might be some exceptions but largely Pakistanis be it punjabis, sindhis and kashmiris were Hindus and are 100% Indian.
Take me for example, my father side are Rajput bhutta who are Suryavanshi rajputs who have lineage going back to house of holy Rama and seeta devi. Bhutta was one of the sons of mulraj Singh who headed chaulkhya Empire. The later generations were centred around jaisalmer, Rajasthan. Derawar Fort in rajasthan was built by Hindu Rajput bhutta leader. Done Bhuttas eventually shifted to sindh then many parts of punjab including multan where they accekted Islam via Sufi Saint Bahudeen zakaria in 12th century approx ( 800 years ago). My forefathers settled down in small city called Pakpattan.
My mother side is kashmiri butt also known as Bhat / bhatt/ Bhatta. As you know kashmiriys were Hindu saraswati brahmins pandits who lived around saraswati river region and later shifted towards kashmir valley. Kashmiris accepted Islam approx 500 years ago. My mother side kashmiris shifted from jammu & kashmir to lahore around 18th century and have been in lahore since then where they lost kashmiri language and developed speaking punjabi and urdu languages.
Many Pakistanis are waking up from slumber thanks to awareness via social media documentaries and their own desire for independent researches and studies to define their identity. One day very soon majority Pakistanis will openly accept they identity is only Indian and that will ultimate be the ice breaker to peace with our motherland India and perhaps reunification with India as it was pre partition 1947. I prefer bring part if United india then that of a artificial state called Pakistan.
@@bilalbhutta6881 Bilal Bhai, Aap Samjhdar Ho.
Apse Ek Guzarish Hai. Canada Mat Jana. Next Pakístan Wahi Banega.
May Be Australia, New Zealand Ka VISa Try Krna.
@@bilalbhutta6881 Not All, But Some Mùslíms In Indía Are Fàr Mòre Radícàlísèd Thàn Pakístánís.
It’s Only A Matter Of Tíme, In Next 50-100 Years, There Wíll Be Híndù-Mùslím Ríótś.
Oncè The Mùslím Pòpùlatíon In Indía Reachès 40% & Abóvè. Thíngś Wíll Gó Bèyònd Còntròl.
Untíll Mùllà, Mùftí & Màdàrssà Are Còntròllèd, Radícalísatíon Wíll Contínùè.
Amin Sahib is talking half truths.
Bhaisaab Yeh Modi Hater Hain..
Aur Apni Country Ke Failure Ko Modi Par Blame Kar Raha Hain
He didnt provide any example of laws in India that implemented currently that decreased secularism. Secularism in India has increased - article 370 gone, triple talak gone, halala gone, Jizya for Hajj gone etc. If he want to say that liberalism has impacted then that is true to some extend but then again you got some LGBTA rights. Democratic institutions and accountability is much stronger now.
Sending terrorist in India or killing non-Muslims is not the way to show friendship.
I love these fellows....great entertainment..... speaking of roots in "English"...
Religious identity is local identity; I live in USA, I am an American. When I was in India, I was Indian. Religion can’t be or should not be core Identity.
Yes mam religion is not identified but I think nation is also not identification..
But I think identification is base on culture
based on geography etc...
I think ur always identity is indian becoz
Skin color, culture , language kill etc..
Also check the DNA of blood...
(Blood DNA is American or indian?🤔)
U r identity always indian but
Ur nation is American today that's fact
just a correction you are a american passport holder so you are a american citizen but still not a real american there is a big difference between both i am living in germany from last 10 years i hold a german passport so i m a german citizen even i speak fluent german but still i m not a german because ethinically racially our roots and by all other means we differ from each other and that's ok nothing wrong in it but i will always be an indian because it is our identity in my city mumbai many german russian american are living for so many years married with indian and love india so much and have a indian passport but they always identify and consider themselves as german russian or american because that is there roots which they love
Did you change your skin and dna ?!
Agreed with you! I live in USA also and we both live peacefully here as a citizen of USA, I was born in Karachi Pakistan…….🙏
Critical thinking is haram in islaam.
Thanks to Zinna ji....kum se kum 50,% ko le k gaya india se. Request to take 50% left in india. Please sir😍😍
Brilliant conversation!
Now Pakistan is speaking about secularism.. Then why they hell did u seperate?? Come merge with india
God forbid. You want to be stoning women in ram leela grounds ?
Amit hashwani is a joke. Dr hookbhoy is more sensible.