Mountaineering Gone Wrong Marathon #5
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- A collection of some of the most popular Mountaineering stories to date.
00:35 An Australian Couple's TRAGIC Final Moments on Everest
12:35 The HORRIBLE Big Four Ice Cave Collapse 2015
23:12 A 1939 Millionaire's HORRIFIC DEATH on K2
40:58 World Record Mountaineer Jerzy Kukuczka's DEADLY Last Climb of Lhotse
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#mountaineeringgonewrong #mountaineeringtragedy - Zábava
What bothers me about Everest climbing is that the companies who organise trips make massive amounts of money yet Shurpas are paid almost nothing even tho they do all the work and help rich people to stay safe.
alot of them are ran by locals and they still pay the same.
It’s not the fault of the state for not having emergency phones. Washington state has acres and acres of public land. There is only so much “the state” can do to protect people from dangerous situations in the wilderness.
So sad that this happened.
Especially when there were signs saying not to go in the cave and common sense says not to go in a melting ice structure on a summer day.
There is only so much you can do to protect a family of 6, who are on vacation from California. That is a disaster waiting to happen, especially in the mountains.
Rarely does anyone weigh the risks of their actions, or prepare for them.
True, but considering this is a very public and popular tourist attraction that draws huge crowds, it' a prime candidate for the placement of an emergency line. No one's expecting emergency phones every 100 yards throughout the whole state, but in places that are known public gathering (and out of personal mobile phone reach) it seems odd no emergency contingency was in place.
@@enigmadrath1780why don’t they close off the entreance?
I like your empathetic storytelling. Makes a positive difference.
State: Puts up numerous warning signs telling people to stay out of the ice caves
People: Actively choose to ignore the warning signs and enter the caves anyway
Ice Caves: Collapse and kill/injure people who enter
Narrator: This is a failure of the state...
🤔
Seriously… it’s not the state’s responsibility to bubble-wrap the entire planet.
For real!
Right?! Plus common sense would tell you that 80degrees temps plus ice = MELT. C'mon people 😮
I live by Lake Michigan. There are flags that signify lake conditions. Green means swimming, but be careful. Yellow, u can swim but be extra careful. Red means staying out of the water. Double red means STAY OUT OF THE WATER or face a $500 fine. I see people in the water while red or double red flags r flying. BTW, Lake Michigan accounts for 50٪ of all drownings of all the great lakes. U would think people would use caution. U can't fix stupid.
For real, this is stupid.
shittons of warning signs, and people still goes into the cave.
Rob: I just can't look at any pictures of her, it breaks my heart
Also Rob: I look at my summit photos all the time
Seriously, we would have gone back, if it were my old lady. Actually, my old lady is not coming anyways.
blinded by trying to achieve a "kids" dream climbing up a mountain like that. They knew its very dangerous but they were numb to the fact what death means, now he knows the mountain is not playing, this what death feels like, was it worth loosing his wife to climb up a mountain and suffer emotionally everyday
He chose to leave her behind.....violated first rule of the US Army no less.... never leave your wife behind...or soldier...or anyone...Naturale Seleccion in my most obnoxious French accent :)
@@chefjames3361 I have a feeling thst wasnt his only bad choice in life...Viva la Naturale Seleccion !!!
They probably weren't thinking very straight too, being in the death zone.SAD
''changes that are needed'' COMMONSENSE springs to mind. Washington Caves
Responsibility begins at home. The parents were telling their children that it was ok to ignore warning signs.
I notice that , in a lot of these disaster vids, the narrator seems quite reluctant to hold the "victims" accountable for their actions. Many of these stories involve people ignoring safety protocols, warning signs, equipment malfunctions or physical deterioration leading to the (predictable) "tragedy".
Don't get me wrong, I love these videos and constantly watch them again and again because they are entertaining, it's just that one aspect of the storytelling that I can't agree with.
@@jimmywilde4768Tragedy just means unhappy ending, and at the very least the ending is unhappy for them.
@@jimmywilde4768Yeah I agree this dude recounts stories well but he deals with the bitterness by blaming the circumstance way more than the people who CHOSE to go to dangerous places.
Tragedy can happen in the wild. What good does it do for someone who knows nothing of the situation to blame strangers for things like equipment malfunctions and running out of gas. The danger is part of the challenge. Not everybody enjoys life through a computer monitor. @@jimmywilde4768
Yes , we should never igmore our hearts and minds - the little inner voice that warns of impending danger/ bad things about to happen if we continue on our course, or it makes us feel good about good things.
Docs are the most thoroughoghly in-doctr-inated to ignore their inner voice/ concience/ their hearts and monds in favor of their education, training, the mason brotherhood / luciferienism , and conforming to this evil world. They did what they were taught to do, they rebelled against their hearts and minds and in effect our creators, and they refused to listen to parents who boiced their bad feelings,,, and they paid the ultimate price. The wife did, and the hisband didn fare well either.
Rob wasnt all that concerned about his wife when he went and summited without her. Bless his heart, Im sorry he got hurt like that.
Love the fact that Rob would rather get to the peak than make sure his wife was safe!
Classic selfishness of the narcissist.
Mountain climbers seem to embody selfishness, narcissism, callousness and indifference. Seems to be the common thread in almost all of them.
@@10191927as a mountaineer… can confirm
It disgusted me hearing he left her. I have no other words, honestly.
I can’t say I “love” it, he’ll justifiably be haunted by it for the rest of his life, but I can hope incidents like this knock enough sense into some people so they reconsider their priorities. I mean, if there was a pill that might make you feel prouder and more accomplished, that gave you a bit more confidence, so that you were a little braver afterward, and opportunities came your way that maybe wouldn’t have otherwise, such that you made more money, had a higher lifestyle (and remember, if you can afford the trek, you’ve already got a pretty nice lifestyle), got to enjoy a few more of life’s pleasures over the rest of your life…but had a 10% chance of killing you, including by means that are unpredictable and over which you have no control, you have absolutely no control over, and that are unpredictable…would you take it?
Your explanation of the 1939 attempt to reach the top of K2 is by far the best.
22:50 - not the states job to prevent every kind of accident a person making a dumb decision could create.
No need to do anything.
"Eagles soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines" - Dilbert.
It is NOT A FAILURE OF THE STATE! Use your common sense..there were warnings! Using common sense is key. When is it responsibility of the person? Also, phone coverage and providing it is not the responsibility of the state for remote places some areas are too far away. Seriously!
Thank you. Exactly. Every man and woman on their own.with all the training and being told exactly that
Right according to this guy. The state should put phones everywhere? At what point is it just the parents fault? Like wtf!!! Parents get no blame these days it's gross. It's 100% on the parents for ignoring the safety signs and going where there not supposed to
21:04 I don’t think it’s the State’s job to put phones at every beautiful, remote, dangerous location people go to.
I have to admit I felt absolutely nothing when the husband from the first story was crying in the interview. I am empathetic so when someone is supposedly feeling strong loss and my eyes aren’t even close to watery something is fishy. Who knows how true any of that is or how much he really gives a crap.
There hasn't been a single tragic death in mountaineering.
If you are risking your life for adventure and to feed your ego, anything bad that happens to you is just part of the game.
I’ve been in these ice caves. I’ve been deep inside them, and never once thought they’d collapse. I’m so stupid and so lucky.
Goodness! Glad things worked out 👍😎
i knew people died climbing mountains and walking into caves but never knew they enter a melting ice cave in the summer, i just dont get it
Parents disregarding warning signs and bringing their kids along are just on another level of stupid. Very sorry for the kids.
shame, those poor sherpas. i always get the sense that they get exploited😞
Definitely. Although, I've heard that they are paid better than they used to be.
I've read on a few different sites the Sherpas are paid between $2000 to $5000, with some of the most experienced and we'll known Sherpas earning much more, during the 3 month season. The regular wage in Nepal is around $550, per year.
What about you using your fancy cell phone are you putting tower climbers lives at risk? As a tower climber, no I don't think so. You are creating me a job ty.
They choose to do it though
Same exploitation as an average US wage slave in their dead end jobs. Sherpas get paid incredibly well compared to their peers, its why they do it. I would relate a sherpas pay to that of a 1st world underwater welder or oil rig worker, extremely hard and dangerous job, but paid like 100-200 dollars an hour.
That last story is so tough to listen to. You would think a climber of his prestige would have adequate equipment and probably sponsors to get him the money for it. Don’t know much about it but it seems like he worked until he had barely enough for his trips, which seems unusual for a climber that’s so damn good. RIP to a guy who lived it to the fullest man
On a long enough timeline, everyone's chances of survival goes to zero.
Yes, but...
Thank you Tyler Durden.
Ice cave: not a failure of the state but a failure of the people going in. Now rescue have to risk their lives for people who will probable cause more trouble in the future
Im so confused by the position that the state should do more about the ice caves to prevent deaths of people who choose to take risks even when they are warned/know the dangers -on THIS particular channel. You tell stories of people losing their lives bc they chose to do a highly risky activity. The only way to be certain no deaths will occur when doing a risky activity is to prevent people from doing the activity.
True but then we wouldn’t have confirmation that ppl like us who stay on flat land aren’t lazy…we just like stayin alive!! 👍🤣🤣😎
Just wanted to let you know that although Canada is synonymous with cold, our summer months provide us with balmy warm temperatures reaching 35C.
*some parts of Canada lol its pretty nuts how warm the arctic circle area is getting in the summer.. In Edmonton we have 30+ temps at the end of april before the snow melted LOL
I find your criticism of Washington State, in regard to Big Four Ice Caves safety, to be inappropriate and rather offensive. If people wish to enter Wilderness areas but disregard their own personal safety, ignoring posted rules and warnings, then any fault is simply their own stupidity.
Shut up karen
That’s not the purpose of government. They are here to help and protect - even the stupid
The blame game aye..
Rob may as well come to terms with the idea that a choice he made in selfishness ultimately led to his wife's death.
Oh! A mountaineering accident compilation! My favourite!!!!! Irresistible.
I cant believe i didn t see this 4 weeks ago!! Couch mountaineer life 🤘😂
Some people are born to do this and some are not, but the problem is some people find out - high up on these mountains - when it is too late!
At 7:15 I was like "you call that 'close' 😳??? Im guessing Im not cut out for mountaineering 😂
@@poutinedream5066 I like to get high, but in a completely different way 😁
@@talkinghead3169 First thing I'd do at the summit is have a blaze, then laugh at everyone thinking they were the highest you can ever get..I'd definitely be higher 🤣
More often than not, it's just preparation, not what ever you are born to do this.
Its an exercise in vanity. A rich person's way of masturbation.
Everything could be fine 1 minute and all hell could break loose lol great writing lol
Everyone is responsible for their own safety. Know the risks, mitigate them as much as possible, but ultimately the choice to proceed is on you yourself.
Been looking forward to this video ❤️
You tell these stories so well. Thank you for sharing. Top notch. Top notch.
It is up to adults to accept their responsibility. The state did not have those kids or lead them into danger. I admit as a single adult with no one relying on me, I have a few cousins who I have not ever met or whose names I do not know. I do take risks that I would not consider if I had family or close friends. I also do not do things spur of moment, I sail ,canoe , kayak, rock climb with a club, hike and camp etc. I wear a helmet and have extra safety gear most people do not bother with. I know it is much safer to have a partner, but I do not. When I white water canoe in early spring I have a full wet suit, boots to protect my feet, gloves and a quality helmet, and a craft designed for the conditions. If I get into trouble and can not save myself I will die. I also have 50 yrs of training and experience and am a retired instructor in these fields. The only thing I have reluctantly given up is downhill skiing. I still teach cross country skiing to elementary students in the city parks. I like that you show the worst that can happen, and it often happens to those without the needed skills and experience. Also if you do not have the self control to turn back on time or if the weather suddenly changes you have no business having others risk their lives for you.
Any rich man can climb Everest but only real climbers attempt K2
k2 is becoming everest again
People are crazy. There is a tragic story of a father who wanted to take a photo of his 5 y old daughter feeding a banana to a bear.
Lzzzzzz
Wait... wha?!?!?!?!?! 😮😮
That's crazy the stories I hear peoples leaving their own to die just to make it on top the mountain it's sad I would never leave anyone behind 💯 that's just crazy a life over a mountain crazy crazy
You put so much effort and time into your videos. You deserve more recognition
“It was a no-brainer to go to the Ice Caves.” That’s a good one. So if Maria died from summit fever, did Analisa die from nadir fever?
No no, she's got a point. It does, after all, require absolutely zero thought to decide to go to an ice cave in that circumstance.
This (first?) story is absolutely nuts. When I was a little girl my mom and I had a conversation about looking up. - I constantly rail at people about eyes "up" as in on the trail & throughout your horizon to always have a general idea of where you are and what the land is like -- but damn. UP due to falling ice on a hike WITH KIDS. Are you kidding me? Just nuts. And heartbreaking for those who didn't have a freaking sign there. Oh my gosh those poor kids, and families.
Tragedy & heart breakong. However I believe It depends on the kiddo & if they have strong sense of fear.
Also I'm not blaming the parents at all, but hell no I'd NEVER let my babe ubder that ice or in the cave. I ALWAYS head ANY warnings in any adventure outside to a place I do not know.
My heart breaks for them. I know the parents are devastated beyond words. I don't blame them.
They need much stronger warnings and signs & maybe fences.
It's beyond unfortunate. And no one's at fault. But always take saftey into your own hands. Accidents are called accidents cause no one expects it to happen.
Just never ever take it too far. Especially with kids. You dont need that unique pic. You don't need that special moment. You ONLY need to be safe.
It isn’t the governments job to think for people or keep every individual safe. Unfortunately, people stop thinking because the government supposed to take care of them. If one is going to take the risk of going to a out of the way place and take the risk of going into a ice cave…that’s a risk they take…wouldn’t have caught me going into a melting ice cave! People need to start assessing the wrist and don’t rely on the government to save them. I doubt most wouldn’t have given notice to signs warning them, as we’ve seen over and over again.
There were warning signs everywhere...they just chose to ignore them
I can't believe my dad took us, ages 8 and 6, up to the top of Half Dome in Yosemite. I wouldn't think of taking my kids up that mountain.
❤ these all being together. In alaska when it hits 30 and the suns out, we get out
Alaska! From all the places I've been lucky enough to visit, as much as it baffles everyone, Alaska is hands down my favourite and if ever given a choice to revisit anywhere I've been it would be there. The people, the scenery, the weather. I thought I left my heart in San Francisco untill I was lucky enough to go to Alaska.
@@cazc5200 did you travel through Canada? Just curious. I live in Edmonton (go oilers!😭) and have always wanted to roadtrip up to Alaska but thats a massive trip! Cheers ✌😎
@@dana102083Just start driving
Great marathon!
I’ve subscribed, your show is awesome!!
Im not judging anyone I just feel it's selfish to attempt something so deadly especially for the sake of a family trip. There are too many other things and places to share that you will all be able to enjoy afterwards and not mourn.
Agree completely. I'm very sorry it happened, but it was foreseeable.
Wear a seatbelt and stop drinking soda
@@reidherndon9086 Driving a car is not really avoidable in a lot of cases. We need to drive to get to our workplace and to buy food.
Climbing mountains on the other hand, is totally avoidable....
Not judging. Live your life how you want.
In that case we should ban all sports where anyone has ever died?
I love climbing and I love this channel!❤ But these stories are SO sad!😢
They're not sad for me, who doesn't climb. I speak for all people who don't climb!
New sub here. Keep up the great work. 🤙🏽
“The pair became inseparable”....obviously and demonstrably NOT! (Nothing says love like abandoning your wife while in a summit frenzy, I guess...
"Summit Fever" - When ones mind's desire is so overwhelming that your own death, or the death of others becomes insignificant. A point where you will literally "step over" climbers that lie dying on the path in order to achieve your glory on the summit. The Everest of self involved vanity.
You do a great job telling stories! That '39 k2 story was tragic!
Big Four Ice Cave - Yes blame the missing signs or missing landlines ... How sad it may be, Darwin at its best. Unprepared, unknowledgeable, badly equipped, ...
At my wife's climbing club, the women there are always forgetting to bring their crampons.
Many internally already ill people, who are getting also visibly ill from an altitude of 8,000 meters on.
Sad, but true !
I’m sorry but climbers are so selfish. Rob would rather summit Everest than save his wife, people would rather leave their children orphaned just to climb a mountain. I have - hard time with sympathy for the climbers who pass away here, but a lot of sympathy for the ones they left behind.
Read” into thin air”by John krakaur first hand account of doomed Everest tours. Tragic
The people that climbed these peaks back in the day, i mean back in the day, they did it without all this equipment thats available today. No Oxygen tanks. No helmets, much less shields. 😮. Naw them old-school Cats WERE raw AF.
Ummmm what time frame are we talking about? They were using oxygen Back in the teens and 20s…🙄🤷🏼♀️ So.
Yes they definitely were bad ass ❤
@@6Haunted-Days dude. Go play with your crayons, and let grown people talk.
No tears for anyone here. The risk is known when you gave your Will. Suck it up
I like these compilations. The individual stories often don't have enough detail to be long form - at least to maintain my interest.
It's summer in the Philippines right now, but I got colds watching this.
@10:05 in the video, the shot of the mountain peaks having their snow violently blown off into huge cloudlike structures is a visual treat as well as measuring stick!
Love terror twin hope he continues making these awesome vids and ill always watch right before i knock out every night. Keep up the great content brotha
Thank you for the compliments! You are too kind!
Make hikers pay huge insurance fees to climb there.
Any time the climbers seem to say “ the conditions couldn’t be more perfect “…. Tragedy happens!!
Since I'm early hopefully you see this, as a climber myself (biggest one was Denali) do you have any remote interest in climbing? Always wondered haha. Anyways, dude, I love your videos and keep crushing it my man!
Absolutely haha! I have attempted to convince a family member to train for some easy climbs! I would love to one day be able to take on a beast like Denali!
Wow! Hats of to you! What an amazing experience that must of been and what a great story to be and to tell or just to drop in randomly in a conversation! It's good to here a success story as people in the comments seem to think everyone dies! Well done for not becoming the next video lol Have you any more planned?
@@TerrorTwin In the words of a famous poet...
Don't dream it..be it!
@Terror Twin do it man! Start small and feel those rewards. So many people you run into in the mountains are the nicest, selfless (mainly, obviously there's the self admitted egotistical climbers, Rienhold etc) and most determined people you'll ever meet. Denali tested me to my limits in every imaginable way. But that feeling on top of North America is something I cannot express. Cheers, mate, and thanks for your videos! I will do everything in my power to not be featured in any of them though haha
@Caz C thanks my dude! I try not to be that cocky climber and bring it up all the time, really only brought it up here cause I was curious if Terror had any interest. But yea if a climber or amateur hiker asks me ill tell ya everything about it. The glaciers, Jesus christ, the glaciers were the absolute worst. Our next plan is to get our second of the seven summits done by getting Kilimanjaro done. Couldn't be more opposite in our planning of this one haha
Hi I really love your channel but the volume in court needs to be twice as loud. I tried headphones and they are on full but still have trouble. Thanks for your content and your great sense of humor!
props to washington state for not putting some ugly fence up or something. With all those warning signs, it's a great filter for common sense
For the algorithm
😂
I support that 🍻
I just wanted to say that I have watched ALOT of videos on such things and I feel like yours seem to be told with a hell of a lot more care towards who they were both as climbers and as people and it’s greatly appreciated my dude! It’s obvious that you have great respect for all of the people that you feature in your videos! 😉👍
Ice cave winners of the Darwin Awards.
I live by Lake Michigan. Some winters large portion of the lake will freeze. I see people walking on the ice. I want to scream at them for their stupidity. People don't stop and think. If the ice breaks, u will fall into the lake. No one will be able to get to u in time to save u. People stop and think.
So he leaves his wife, not well, just so he could get to the summit, that's not a man that's a loser. She didnt make it, I hope he never forgets what he did, loser
There is no failure by the state. The state does not need to supply a closer phone. The state is not responsible to make the outdoors risk free. It’s up to people to decide what risks to take. And there can be 10000 warning signs. Or none. Do you know how the caves can be made safe ? Demolish them. Also, fill in all the lakes and rivers, level the cliffs, and burn down the trees so no one climbs them.
Rob didn't love Maria. If he had loved her, he would have walked her back down to Camp 2 and tried another day.
He makes me angry with his sobbing.
He had a choice. And his choice says a LOT about WHAT he truly is.
He has no moral fiber. He could have tried Everest another day. But he can NEVER get his wife back. I can't stand these selfish narcissists who say they love someone, yet, when the time comes to prove that love, they fail every time. He killed his wife. Period. His actions proved he loves no one.
She was his responsibility. He failed Maria, thus proving to the world what a POS he is.
I disagree. He has morality, otherwise he wouldn't be crying over the loss of his wife.
He made the poor decision of continuing the trek because that is simply human nature, we strive for the feeling of completion and success as a species, and it is something so primal that it would outweigh many logical decisions that he could have made... Also note the lack of oxygen at that altitude and how it can impair motor function & decision making.
Before you call someone a POS, you should at least try to understand their perspective a bit better.
@@koneeche yeah we dont know how much high altitude was affecting them..they may have deviated from their plan. I still have sympathy for the man as he will probably never forgive himself and will live with that til he dies. 😢
Diana has baggage 🛍️
Thank you Miss Cleo. 🔮
So you are climbing Everest but you're not prepared for you or your wife to die? You're not playing a video game or rock wall climbing in a gym.
Right if I had some strange desire to pay 100k to do this life gamble. Then I would never do so with my wife, mother, father, son, brother, sister, ect. It's to risky it's like bringing your loved ones to shoot IV drugs it's a life gamble for a thrill.
I can't get enough of Mt Everest and Titanic
Everest is a beast. People have even died en route to base camp.
Compared to other mountains its more a gentle giant.
@@cazc5200 its still a beast among other beasts.
Are they the people who died in their tents due to an avalanche
😢 Sweet Grace.
Saying “weary” when you mean “wary” is so cute. But I love the show.
Yeah, cute. He also can't pronounce bivouac.
@@cremebrulee4759 Still, overall, he's got a good voice to listen to and pace, and puts together a good clear shortish story.
Painstaking is a better word than tedious here😊
Was summitting Everest worth it, Robert? Who sent for her body that you left behind?
Just enough experience to get themselves killed... the rope didn't cause him to fall, he slipped!
Definitely not disasters. These folks know the risks.
you know the risks of driving a car but a car accident, even at your fault, is considered tragic.
Have a shred of empathy. Maybe theres family that still cares about you
Maybe look up the definition of disaster.
@@fatshibaballsThere’s a difference between driving a car and scaling a mountain that goes above the clouds.
@@mybrotherkeepscommentingimsrry tragedies are still tragedies.
I visit Big Four ice caves a lot during all seasons being local. Just before winter when the rain is hitting is the most dangerous. It melts away at the ice from the top down creating channels. The caves are wide open with stress cracks throughout. The arches are very prone to collapsing and can weight tons. A collapse happens very often. I've been present for a few but from a distance. Most people aren't around there enough to know the real dangers, so they assume it won't happen to them.
Wow, I live in the PNW and never heard of the ice caves. Maybe next summer...
The Netflix "After shock" has some incredible photography.
Google Everest movies to watch several climbing, hiking, mountaineering movies! Some free others not!
There are just too many people up there who really shouldnt be. People who believe having enough money to get up there is justified despite having little or no experience. Even for those who are qualified , experienced, aclimatized ( either naturally like the sherpas or through a rigorous acclimatization process)it is a huge risk, H.A.P.E. & H.A.C.E, Avalanches, rockfalls, storms and the Khumba ice-fall is indiscriminate and there ready to wipe out anyone in the wrong place at the wrong time.
So when you get thrill seekers with more money than sense they should be made to sign a waiver of responsibilty so they dont put others in danger just to get themselves out of trouble.
Nobody should be up there.
Why dont you just call these narcissists out.
He left her is always on his mind.
Darrington wa there is great climbing
The Mountain was mor Important for him then his Wife. Crazy
Taking second hand gear to the Himalayas just sounds like someone planning their own suicide. ☹
The last story in 1939 is wild . I’d love to see a movie . How they were able to accomplish so much with that old school gear is beyond me . I feel like the story is deeper . There was resentment among the group . Why would your comrades just simply take the Serpa’s word for it without checking anything further . Who abandons camp and packs up with out a legit head count or confirmation . It seems like they all said to hell with it by that point
Seeing that dude cry makes me angry, honestly. He made the choice to leave his wife when she was sick and needed his help to get to safety immediately. Who leaves their partner behind in a place literally named "Death Zone"? I am surprised he was not investigated for this, it is failure to provide assistance at the very least. Like leaving your injured spouse in the ditch after a car accident to hike to your destination and back real quick before you help them. He got exactly what he wanted so now he better be happy about it, else she died completely in vain. Ugh. These don't normally get to me but that one made me mad.
Yeah bad shit! She was metres away from the summit so to turn back tells me just how unwell she must have been. If he made it to the summit and caught up with her had he just stayed with her, he obviously had the strength to of got her down faster. Then to say it meant nothing getting to the summit without her??? Yeah leave a climbing partner, that's just how it foes up there, but your wife?!?! Absolutely not.
@@hazelmoore2976 that happens when your ego is so strong it doesnt allow you to feel sympathy for others. The very least he could do is recognize that he likely sealed her fate and warn others not to be so irresponsible.
I agree. She sacrificed her autonomy to follow his dreams and it cost her her life.
He didn't care that he summitted alone - he would have stayed with her if he had wanted her more than summiting.
I bet it wasn't the first time he pushed her to do his thing and not take care of herself, but she knew that, and put his interests ahead of her own.
@@elipotter369 who knows? She isnt around to tell her side of the story. Maybe she begged him for help and he went "brb, gotta summit real quick"
Wich is why I'm surprised the situation wasn't investigated. If you fail to help your wife who is actively dying to finish your hobby project and later tell police you asked and she was okay with it... I dont think police would go "Oh, okay, she clearly wanted to sacrifice herself for this, sorry for your loss"
@@LieseLotte471 there are a lot of small potential clues: in all the photos, she is leaning/draped/clinging to him instead of standing upright herself. He's ramrod straight.
She only took up a "love" of the outdoors after she met him with his obsession for it.
She put him first, with you go ahead - assuming that's even true. He ignored people's pleas to not go on when his wife wasn't coping at camp 4...etc.
Also, she was heavily into toxic positivity- manifesting for successfully doing Everest, never stop trying,...
People like that aren't quite facing reality.
Her mother was uneasy...
Just my observations and opinions, but you're right, we're not seeing their relationship first hand.
There are just so many female/male relationships that have that dominant male/compliant female dynamic going on though.
I wouldn't have left that woman anywhere.
He was not thinking clearly due to the high altitude.
This is about the consequences of being stupid.
It amazes me how a cimbers brains work. They believe people who dont climb are wasting their lives doing nothing while they themselves accomplish nothig beneficial climbing dangerous places, wasting their lives and they dont even see the irony. I honestly dont feel sorry or sad when i watch these videos!
Hilarious and spot on
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A'ight 🤣
Re: story about the ice cave: People aren’t going to vote for higher taxes for state park infrastructure improvements, which this would require bc despite “How you feel”, who’s going to pay for it? That stuff ain’t free. Therefore, the politicians they vote for aren’t going to install anything until someone is killed and the public needs someone to blame other than themselves. That is how governments everywhere operate. No one wants to pay for someone who won’t understand to stay out of where they’ve been told not to go.
I’ve spent the time since 1975 believing Mount Blanc is the tallest mountain in Europe- until earlier today & learning of the unpopular celebrity Japanese guy whom (before failing to top Everest after many attempts & dying attempting a 7th) climbed the tallest on each continent & the European representative mountain appears to be nowhere near the Alps ! 🤔
"What would you like people to know about Marisa?"
How about her *name,* MARIA. I'm sorry but that was an editing mistake that you should have caught.
Her name was *Maria.*
Could just feed bears and run when they attack...😂.
Will you see it as a failure? But perhaps you're filling to see the big picture or the simplest facts of the dollars. These are people who chose to go into a situation they knew was dangerous. How could you not inherently know? That's a dangerous situation if you take that Chance and you get hurt it's kind of unknew. It's not on the state or anybody else is on the park system
Yep caring and loving people THAT CANT FOLLOW DIRECTIONS!!! Sheesh
I dont want to sound like I'm criticizing- it's more of a tip. As I understand it, it's pronounced kind of like Melb'n. The Aussies love it when people get it right 🤣
I would say that Mel'b'n would be closer. It is hard to write the way it sounds. lol But their is a clear delineation between Mel and bourne
Yeah, it's MEL-bun
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He pronounced it perfectly considering its an English pronunciation.
Can rim to rim be done in one day?