Tragedies on K2 · Fatal Altitude · National Geographic
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- 11 climbers died on the world's 2nd tallest mountain in August 2008. 'Die Trying' traces the disaster with in-depth survivor interviews and actual footage from the ill-fated expedition.
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The 2008 K2 disaster occurred on 1 August 2008, when 11 mountaineers from international expeditions died on K2, the second-highest mountain on Earth. Three others were seriously injured. The series of deaths, over the course of the Friday ascent and Saturday descent, was the worst single accident in the history of K2 mountaineering. Some of the specific details remain uncertain, with different plausible scenarios having been given about different climbers' timing and actions, when reported later via survivors' eyewitness accounts or via radio communications of climbers who died (sometimes minutes) later in the course of events on K2 that day.
The main problem was reported as an ice avalanche occurring at an area known as "the Bottleneck", which destroyed many of the climbers' rope lines. However, two climbers died on the way up to the top prior to the avalanche. Among the dead were people from France, Ireland, Korea, Nepal, Norway, Pakistan, and Serbia.
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This story was cover so well, I love this as sad as it is, it wraps you up in the story and makes you part of it!!
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@@jeeplife2035 is not
I hate how the just cut to, "oh btw 11 climbers just died" like wtf give us some information
@@ColaCoca700 yeah, this is the shorter version, you can find the longer one on youtube or wilko used to have it on his channel I believe, I may be wrong about that
@@brucegwynn8509 I would. He is such a good climber and an overall nice guy. A real comrade on the mountain. I wish he would see this comment and reach out to go climbing together. All i need is one climb. Just him and i, only the 2 of us, no one else. No other people involved
The video does not give all the details of what happened. Some time ago i finished a book about it so here it is:
Dren Mandic: he was 1-2m ahead of Cecilie Skog, but had some problems with his oxygen bottle, and right behing Cecilie there was a small place like a small terrace or something, where he could fix the oxygen without preventing other climbers behind to move forward. So this is why he unclipped, he wanted to get back to this small terrace. Then he lost his footing, and tried to bear hug Cecilie in his desperation. Cecilie fell down with him but only for a second, as she was still hooked to the ropes, while Dren could not hold to her and dropped down.Then some 50m down he stood up on his feet and waved to the group, as maybe to say that hes okay. Then he lost his footing immediately and fell down 2nd time further 200m, this time his body hitting some rocks, and this time he unfortunately died.
Jehan Baig: him, 2 serbians - Iso and Predrag, and Fredrik were only hooked to the rope that holds the dead body of Dren Mandic. Serbians were on the left side of the body, Fredrik and Jehan were on the right, and Jehan was behind Fredrik. They were all hooked only to the rope of the Dren Mandics body. This is why Fredrik said in the video ''if you do fall, you release - its our lives too, remember''. So basically meaning if somebody falls he has to let go in order not to drag everyone else to their death. They were lowering the body on a steep hill, then Jehan Baig fell on top of Fredrik and they both fell down. Fredrik managed to get on his feet, but at the time the rope that Jehan Baig was holding, was around the legs of Fredrik, thats why he shouted to him to release the rope. Unfortunately after Jehan released from the rope, he did not try to arrest/stop his sliding and he slid to his death. Mind you, the book says that Jehan was sluggish and having difficulties to walk normally, probably due to high altitute sickness. This is why he did not summit to the top and decided to come down - because he was not feeling good. Hence maybe the reason he lost his balance and feel on top of Fredrik, and maybe later could not stop his sliding with his axe.
Rolf Bae: Was killed on the descend while his wife Cecilie and his friend Lars were several meters behind him. He was not feeling very well at the time and had a lack of oxygen also, so he decided to go down first of the three. After he went first a serac fall dropped on top of Rolf and he went down with all the ice and rocks and died. This is the serac fall that cut all the fixed ropes and made it very difficult for the rest to descend.
I will have to go back to the book to explain the rest of the persons, because i dont remember every detail of every death.
Hugues D'Aubarède in few words was very tired, so he had to quickly go down, because of lack of oxygen. On the summit he was sluggish and communicative, but one could see that he is not feeling well and moves very slowly. On his descending he went with Cas, but later told him that Cas must go ahead of him, because he is in better shape and Hugues didnt want to slow him down. Later Cas saw the severed ropes from the first serac fall and shortly after he heard a cracking noise from an ice fall and saw a person in a yellow suit falling down in the darkness without making a single sound.
Karim Meherban: After the summit he was oxygen deprived and seemed sluggish and lost. He was very slow in his descent and was navigating himself by the headlights of other climbers, who were descending ahead of him. At some point he could no longer see any lights so he could not find his way and was forced to spend the night somewhere above the bottlebeck. The book says that Pemba made pictures of what appears to be Karim and was in disbelief to see him actually heading to the Chinese side of the mountain. Meaning that , if Karim is not able to find the right path, he is beyond rescue. At the end Karim continued wandering around the edge of the serac, at one point falling down from the edge/or being swept away by a serac fall, hundreds of meters down to his death.
Thanks that helps to fill in some of the details.
Thank you for filling in details. I appreciate your time in doing this.
You have a great memory
Dang! Thank you for filling in the blanks.
RIP to those poor souls. 🙏🏾
Thanks for the additional notes.
Not to take away from anything but also the sheer risk pilots take in rescue is just bravery in its purest form. If you know even a little about helicopters you know how extremely dangerous any kind of helicopter rescue attempt is at those heights. It’s the most selfless act of honor and bravery. Every single rescue pilot, every single attempt they make, my salute to them. They look death in the face and tell it every day “not today” to rescue fellow humans and I’m just in awe of them.
I'm shocked how people are so simple-minded about aviation. The air is too thin to support the weight of a helicopter. It can barely hover at those altitudes. What if it loses its ability to produce lift when you have the injured person on board? Everyone dies. Sorry to say that, but that's how it is. I was told by a chopper pilot that at certain altitudes, you have to remember to DOUBLE the weight of each person you take on because the air is too thin so a 150 lb person is equal to 300 pounds. Suddenly, a rescue can be impossible and you might not even be able to get close to take the injured persona board.
@@largol33t1 it isn't necessarily that the person is 'worth more' in weight, so much as the aircraft has an environmentally-limited weight which is lower than the normal maximum. So a helicopter might have an engine capable of supporting 2,000 pounds at sea level whereas at 14,000' above sea level, it might only be capable of lifting 1,500 pounds. Density altitude and the need for supplemental oxygen at these altitudes in conjunction with potentially gusty winds makes these operations obviously high risk.
Isnt that more often at higher elevations than most base camps? Like the case with Beck Wethers on Everest was at camp 2 i believe (please tell me if it was camp 3). That i can understand being heroic. But from.my understanding most base camps are not too difficult to get helicopters to. Of course im no expert if someone can fill me in if that incorrect, I welcome it!
go watch the air zermatt documentary in nepal, you will see that every rescue about 5000m a. sealevel is extremly dangerous and you have to fly with special skills. so every flight is a 100% liferisking thing
@@largol33t1No. It's not because the air is too thin to support the weight of a helicopter. Helicopters rely completely on its rotors to supply lift (they're like thin wings). If a helicopter pilot wants to go higher, they need to increase the speed of the rotors and, in turn, uses more energy (fuel) to produce the lift. The helicopter seen in this video can fly up to about 8,000-8,500 meters. It's inefficient and couldn't maintain the 8,000 meters for too long due to fuel concerns, but it's not something that that type of helicopter couldn't do. The people rescued in this incident were at base camp, which is at an altitude of about 5,000 meters. A helicopter can reach that altitude and hover. Heck, during one of the Mt. Everest catastrophes, some people were rescued via helicopter at 8,550 meters. A person's weight isn't as much of a factor as you claim it is.
I don't know if you were intentionally being ironic, but you shouldn't be suggesting people are simple minded due to not understanding helicopters or aviation.
I worked in northern canada all my life often full days outside in -40°C. To prevent frost bite i realized you must by completely dry. Climbers are sweating as they climb of coarse and i did climbing structures and oil rig platforms. I put paper towell in my boots first then between every toe and constantly changes my socks. If you can wash your feet every night even better. I put paper towells in my gloves in my palms because your palms sweat. Old gloves have moisture in them even though you do not realize so use new gloves every week. If you are completely dry frostbyte is much much more preventable. I remember others complaining of cold or frostbite always. Every chance you get change the paper towels in your boots and gloves. Moisture is the enemy.
Do you work on oil rig? Or ever you go on monkey board?
This is very true. Baking soda in boots also absorbs moisture
A very good point I learned the hard way during my first Winter survival course. Luckily, no permanent physical damage! Thanks for sharing. I think hypoxia is a much bigger problem in Mountain climbing decisions/mistakes, at altitude.
Brother! Once you are at higher altitude, the world changes. I like to climb a little but things change at heights.
-40C???? That's insane!!! I've lived and worked in +40C temperatures (sometimes much hotter) and don't mind the heat but I completely shut down in the cold... today dropped down to a low of 10C at one stage and I FROZE... I don't know how you do it !?!?!
When I was in my 20’s I did some minor climbing and scrambling. I quickly learned my limitations. I watch these videos in awe of the people who do this, my knees going weak watching how high they are and how far it would be to fall. The ability to keep going when cold, exhausted and mentally impaired from oxygen deprivation is both admirable and perplexing. Being up on a dangerous mountain that really doesn’t want you there defies my imagination.
It’s seems silly and bored to me as if we can’t die a million ways already without doing anything. I don’t think risking ones life volunteerly is admirable but more on the curve of insane.
I watch these out of curiosity. Definitely not admiration. For me, this is the epitome of the ridiculousness of the human condition. Delusional self rationalization. That these people are held out as heroes and go on tours giving leadership speeches is a joke.
@@haroldbrown6630 yep, I have never seen the correlation of an individual seeking personal glory & fame and their ability to transfer it to a sales team/commercial organisation. I don't go to work and lose a foot to frostbite.
@@boundariessetinstone5893 If man didnt risk their life nothing in this world could have been accomplished. From making the first skyscraper to diving deep sea to uncover what the bottom of the ocean holds.
perplexing indeed
This particular 2008 expedition was and remains a horrifying example of what can go wrong on K2, even with clear and beautiful weather. The men who tried to save Dren, many of whom I know and follow, did their best to rescue him under extraordinary conditions. Give them all credit for their attempt to save him.
true, i understand
Yeah and I know the President..
To be honest, I didn't really get what actually happened. did they all fall down in one swoop? what was the reason? The description given in the film is rather unclear to me
@@JosipRadnik1 I agree. The last bit was unclear. At a steep part high on the mountain a rope line broke through ice falls and one or more climbers were killed instantly. Some others were now trapped on the high part and perished because they could not descend in time? And those last two were they also trapped above the broken rope line or were they below it?
@@joostdriesens3984 A serbian (I don't remember the names sorry) fell down while going around someone, that was under that large snow pack, they called it the bottleneck, and people went to see if he was alive. They could see this from camp 4. Three people from camp 4 went to help. They reached him and by that time he was dead and packed in red plastic by a fourth man who was a part of the serbians group. The guy who filmed in his pocket was one of the people from camp 4. While lowering the body, the man behind pocketcamman fell onto him. The rope got tangled and the falling man was now hanging on the rope from pocketcamman's leg. He yelled at the opposite two to drop the rope, they did, and to some extent at the man who was holding the rope on his leg. The falling man who was holding his leg let go and fell to his death not to bring pocketcamman with him. They should have let go of the rope as soon as the first man started slipping, but tragically this did not happen.
Now later that day, not filmed, that snow pack broke apart, killing many climbers and stranding the people at the top as it tore loose the anchors and severed the ropes. Those two at the end were people who got rescued from the top. This is how I understood it from the video, so take it with a lot of salt. I remember this from the news at the time as well.
You never conquer this mountain at best you make it to the top and return home with your life
Like Messner often says, you are not battling against the mountain.
The struggle is within you and never goes away.
It’s never about reaching the peak.
Mountaineers only spend a brief period of time on the peak……if they reach it.
Most of the mountaineering deaths occur during the descent
Idk Wim Hoff climbed it in shorts with no boots or socks or other weather equipment. I'd say that's conquering it!
@@austinpowers8550 that was Mount Everest
I'd call making it to the top then down a conquering of the mountain.
That's literally all they're trying to do 😂 do you think they get to the summit and claim ownership?
Helicopter pilots...unsung heroes.
Not at all .. they get plenty of credit
Yeah. This is an odd comment. If you said 'Municipal sewerage operatives are unsung heroes' I could see it. Helicopter pilots are pretty well recognised, no?
@@tcm81 I hear ya!
@@PakistanDefenseForum I don’t think you should have the honor of “successful” summit. If you need to be taken off in a helicopter
@@tcm81 Also they got them from base camp, i cant speak for all base camps but most aren't that difficult to get to from helicopter, I could understand with the helicopter rescue of Beck Wethers on Everest 1996 because that was a record at the time and extremely risky for the pilot.
That dude saying they celebrated the summit like no one died literally moments before kind of put me off
It happens all the time it’s nuts. Just complete disregard to human life just because you reached a meaningless goal.
I'm not a climber, I only hike whenever I get the chance. When I started watching these documentaries about summiting various mountains around the world I was asking myself why on earth someone would do that. Now after I've watched a few of them on David Snow's channel, I don't question these expeditions anymore. I sit in my warm bed, safe and cosy but I get dragged into these stories and my mind flies away to the mountains. I know it's only just another way of entertainment for me or people like me but all this feels so real. Seeing their drama makes my heart pound. I hope this doesn't sound pathetic.
i know it really is drama .. its watching a morbid madness unfold in these crazy extreme conditions . though i worry about these people who are obsessed with a summit , like a drug addict risking their lives for a high. i find it sad and wonder why there are not more interventions to stop people risking their lives so obsessively
Watch hiking gone wrong 😁
Same feelings when can't sleep while ensconced here in our cozy bed wifey sleeping beside me 😬😁😪
I feel the same way. Nice and cozy in a warm bed while my mind is freezing at 8000m. You are not pathetic, my friend.
@ kasskath3578- You're not pathetic. You're smart. I do wonder if the climber who lost most of a foot to frostbite thinks it was worth it.
"It was a perfect day to climb the summit, no wind, beautiful sunshine but Bob forgot the rope..."
“We reached the summit and oh how pretty it was; pity that Fred and John died a horrible death a few hours before in front of our eyes. Still that landscape was so nice.”
"This summit was everything that I've wanted in my life.. ohh and some people died which is tragic, tragic indeed but the mountain when i got to the top was gorgeous"
@@aboutsuccess137 I have watched a lot of these documentaries and it seems that 9/10 high altitude climbers don't give two flying fucks about anyone but themselves.
...and be certain no dead bodies are in the background of your summit selfie.
Clearly you have made your judgment off of one video true mountaineers will give up a summit attempt to help another. You know little, try harder please.
Nothing is worse than when a climber dies trying to bring down a dead body.😞
Respectfully, I’d instead say that nothing is stupider than dying while trying to “save” a dead body.
Nothing is worse?
@@LetReasonPrevail1 People have been doing it for as long as there have been people. Many accounts in wars throughout history of people trying to collect bodies only to die themselves. There must be something deep within people to want to "rescue" a body like that.
Yeah it's very heart shocking.
There are a million things worse than asshats dying on a mountain.
What strikes me is that everybody is talking about many people having died on the mountain, but nobody
seriously includes the possibility that he / she could be the next.
Honestly, that is probably for the best. When you need to be this focused, you can not afford to be thinking about anything other than the immediate survival. Don't start worrying about how you are going to die, or it will start to be come a reality.
Yea, they should be made to put their names on the monument when going up and only allowed to take it back when they leave. That might wake up a few people.
I've actually read a paper on how people perceive risk while climbing Everest. The researcher interviewed people before and after the climb. People know of the risks but they're not fully aware of how serious it is until they themselves experience altitude sickness and see death. We always see tragedies on tv and we don't think they could ever happen to us. The city I live in doesn't see many natural disasters, therefore the thought of an devastating earthquake happening to me is something I can't imagine happening.
All for bragging rights
Some things are just understood, they don't need to be said.
The whole story is bizarre - the climbers are portrayed as serious or "professional" climbers, yet from the very start they had messed up even basic basic elements - missing equipment, even though they've been there for weeks preparing. This seems more dilettante than serious.
The worst part is that these people always end up killing Sherpas.
If they want to kill themselves, okay, fine that's their business. But the treatment of the Sherpas is unforgiveable.
Agree 💯%
They needed warmer mittens. And tastier snacks.
Love
Sherpas are not helpless victims! They are thinking, intelligent human beings who make their own choices. No one is on that mountain unwillingly. ALL of them know the risks. Stop treating Sherpas like children!
@@kelrogers8480 Not only are they not children, but they too can be assholes as we've seen on the attempted murder of Steck and Moro.
Tastes may vary, but I'd rather listen to an explanation of why a climb was abandoned, see the footage of the mountain at that time (e.g. blizzard), than listen to an obituary and see a small plaque on a rock. Turn back, then tell us how many weeks it took to plan and execute the attempt, make us understand how hard it is (for you) to abandon a climb. To me, that's more heroic than stupidly forging ahead to likely death AND failure.
These guys were all highly experienced climbers-the rule is-if you don't summit by 12 Noon-you turn back and climb down. Getting stuck at night in the open equals death.
I've climbed plenty of mountains, right from the comfort of my recliner in my living room. Good enough for me!
I am a CZcams mountaineer too
@@rachelmarcus5852 that's it?
I play professional football
Wrestling
Also im a physicist
I run marathons
I can deadlift 800 pounds
I mean .. I have achieved everything including saving the planet four times just from the comfort of my couch..
And youtube 😂😀😁🙏
Wisdom is learning from someone else's experience.
You're still very courageous. It's not easy being a CZcams mountaineer but no doubt you've negotiated the risk quiet well and are still alive to enjoy more summit attempts. Be careful, it's a long way to the bottom if you slip off the recliner, especially if you don't have enough oxygen. Salute.
🥧🍨🍦
@@bhattgaurav86 I earned my Doctorate in Philosophy from Stanford University, I travel the country helping hoarders get to the root of their affliction and I am a Profiler specializing in cold cases.
THAT MOUNTAIN, took my father in 1982 10 years later i lost both my brothers, 30 min. apart, 7 years 4 days later i lost my wife and sister i quit climbing, they all died poor judgement lack of enough oxygen. MY mother blames me for taking her family, i begged each of them to stay home,this is why we never had children, she now resides in an institution she was no able to cope with the loss of her only daughter and daughter in law my beloved wife of 25 years. The last words from my sister was tell mom i'm sorry,i did and she lost it.
Wow
wow i am so sorry to hear this. I hope you were able to find happiness in some way. I am not sure if your mother would ever be happy but I hope she is proud of you at least
Dang that’s horrible.
😥😥 I'm so sorry to hear that
Wow that’s unbelievably tragic, I’m so sorry for your loss. I hope you’ve found peace or are working your way towards in. You’re in my thoughts and prayers my friend
Watched this a few times over the years along with the other versions. Truly remarkable and sad. The rolling camera in the pocket is more chilling than any horror movie ever made.
I completely agree. That scene is just horrifying.
Can you imagine seeing the guy you were just talking to disappear down a giant slope into oblivion? Man that gets to me.
@@chronic2001n And being the one that told him to "let go". It's an horrific experience I'd wish on no one.
@@crib4046 Ah man that just sends chills down my spine. God bless em all.
@@crib4046 But isn’t it expected death a high possibility like is it really surprising. Volunteering for something so risky when there is already a million ways to die without even doing much. If I died there or someone I climbed with I wouldn’t be surprised if death occurred. It actually should be expected as high probability.
I got caught in a rip current when I was young...and I was a strong swimmer....but I would've drowned if I hadn't been rescued by 2 marines in the rental next to us....nature should always be respected for it's ability to shred us
Reading this the day after a night of tornadoes in the US that totally wiped out towns and killed upwards of 100 people. Nature truly is something that can destroy us and all we build, as much as we might want to think otherwise.
ive watched this documentary 3 times in a year. its just an insane story and it gets my full undivided attention every time.
have you watched "touching the void"?
I love climbing documentaries. As a person who has a really bad fear of heights, this is the only way I will ever see these mountains... and also, it's like watching a horror film to me lol
@@pleasuretokill I'm pretty much the same lol
@@pleasuretokill same here!
I highly recommend the podcast Against The Odds, it has a season that covers this incident to great detail, it really makes you feel their despair and how incredible it is that some people survived
Where can I find against the odds please?
I can't even imagine climbing a mountain like this and losing so many fellow climbers during the same climb and knowing you couldn't do anything to have saved them :(. It's so tragic and horrible I hope those who have died on these mountains can rest in peace.
I just discovered your channel last week. What an incredible variety of climbing documentaries you have! I'm enjoying watching them.
After watching a few Everest documentaries I realize these people are wired differently. I am completely missing whatever hardware they have that makes climbing a mountain like this something you want to do.
I think they're insane.
They didnt do shi* or wont do shi* . They pat Sherpas to do everything. They just follow the Sherpas who literally take them up and down over and over for a living. These Westerners are chumps, these a$$clowns just want fame
It's called being a narcissist
Beats being a cave diver/explorer or working in a submarine, if I have to choose one poison then let me die with the widest sky around me rather than in some dark cave or waters.
@@DVFHAFYTRobert Baratheon agreed with you.
These people prepare for a long time. Then in the morning when it's time to climb, equipment is disorganized, they spend 3 hours trying to get it together, losing valuable climbing time. How about getting things organized the night before, so everyone can get going in the morning?! After all that confusion and frustration can a human being feel confident and at ease enough to tackle that mountain?!?
My sentiments exactly! To me they were short of their mothers organising them, most blokes can’t find their arses with both hands, I have sons, that’s my qualification to make that statement.
High elevation just by itself can cause confusion. It's hard to think logically just as an individual in such conditions, then think about trying to navigate a group relationship with people who have different languages as their primary language, and are elite climbers with their own personalities. Then throw in summit fever and the promise of a beautiful day. I think it would be easy to make a bad call.
@@jenniferholden9397 yes, right on!
Are you an experienced mountaineer? Do you speak from experience, or are you an armchair expert?
@@kelrogers8480 The strange thing about the Internet is you can actually be speaking to someone who KNOWS what they're talking about, and you'll never know it... These kind of comments are usually from people who've never done anything themselves...And then, you don't even specify to whom you are addressing your comment... 🙄
Nims Purja not only did 14 8 thousanders in 6 months but he also did k2 in winter. What a legend!
Thanks for the upload man
if someone dies..and is already wrapped in plastic- i just think it's best to leave him there. risking your own lives is not worth it here. it's not about morality or decency
It was very disturbing to hear how elated and joyful those who made it to the summit were knowing, as they did, that not long before, two of their fellow climbers had fallen to their deaths. I found it also grimly ironic that some of these very same climbers fell to there own deaths soon after starting their descent.
It was a dream for them to make it to the summit. It gave their ordeal some meaning. They knew the descent would be risky.
Indeed, the book about it says that even after almost everyone saw Dren Mandic fall, Pemba felt very uneasy, because most of the climbers just had a look at the falling person, took 1-2 minutes of silence and then continued as if nothing happened. Only a handful of people actually felt concerned about Dren and were talking about how long down he felt and if he would be lucky to survive.
Again you are judging things by your morality from comfort.
You know up there it's a battle of survival. You all work as a team. But to survive the journey. The summit is that proverbial utopia, you have come all the way, you are facing death at every step just for that. The whole psychology changes. Everything fades away, you focus yourself to take one step after another. Moving forward 1 step of time is a huge ask. Lose focus and you start hallucinating. Lose focus and you suddenly feel overwhelming exhaustion. And you keep moving. That's what you know to keep moving. To keep moving towards the summit. Like the pilgrims of yore. You look around people fall, and die. You sigh and you press on.
And when you are at the summit. Death of your compatriot, death at every step of your way..... It was all for that and you are there. So I don't think you have lost any right to enjoy. Everybody signed their death certificate when they took this mission. I should not feel bad if I succeed and you die in the way. You should not too. After all the summit was why we died. And those who reach it have all the reason to celebrate.
As of death while climbing down. It' the descent which kills most. As you have been pushing hard for summit. You have lost your energy and is dehydrated. Oxygen is rationed. Then there is an adrenaline rush, you enjoy the summit. And after 40 minutes the rush is over and there is a sudden overwhelming exhaustion. You feel how well you were just 39 minutes before, how tired you are now. You want to sit down and rest. But your team says you keep moving on don't stop on the way. Keep moving. Keep moving. And as you descend below 25000 feet suddenly things clear up for you. You suddenly get your brain back, your mind back, your reasoning and logic back. You think..... 'what the hell I was thinking'. You are just happy that somehow you just pushed yourself to get down. Yes it's that difficult.
My uncle is a mountaineer in his own right. Went up mount everest.
Asked him what he felt on the top of the summit.
"it's only half over, the next part is tougher, I must get going"
He just took one pic of himself and said a prayer to Lord Shiva. And within next 5 mins he was on his way down. He told me that he had thought about using his initial adrenaline rush to good use. And he did. That's what helped him. He kept uttering 'bol Bam' and Sherpabor one of his compatriot would reply 'bam bam Bhole'.
Hindu pilgrims of shiva often take journey of hundreds of mile by foot, with water from river Ganges to offer to shiva. Only criteria is no solid Food, and the water vat cannot touch the ground. They move in groups of 20-100. And if you find them 10-12 hours after the start of the journey, you will think they are zombies. Eyes staring straight ahead, mouth open, head down, walking in a fixed rhythm and cadence uttering "bol bam".. "bam bam bhole". Everything else has vanished for them. All that matters is the journey and the destination....bol bam-tarak bam-bam bam Bhole.... They keep walking in the sunny and humid early monsoons.
Bam - Bam = sound of the drums when Shiva is destroying the universes.
So bol bam = scream bam - bam
Bam - Bam Bhole = carry on the innocent /naive Lord. Carry on the destruction.
Bhole = the one is very innocent, who doesnt connive, deceive, cunning etc. He is wise. But not cunning
So yes I understand exactly what they are going through.
@@Drxyz-tk6le why would morality be different from being in comfort? Feeling empathy from watching someone die in front of you shouldn’t change because you are trying to ‘live your dream’ I imagine if it was your uncle who sadly passed away and no one helped in anyway, because the psychology is different up there, you would have a very different opinion.
@@Drxyz-tk6lesomehow I don’t think your words and explanation will be of much comfort to the surviving family members. The wives, the children that bear the burden of what their husbands and fathers have left them.
I love this channel. It's so niche, on point and satisfyingly interesting. More, please. (It would be amazing if there were a series covering all 14 summits - there's so very little about the lesser known mountains.)
I like that word Niche
Have you watched 14 Peaks Nothing is impossible? It's unbelievable.
You maybe don't get the second chance to summit K2, but you definitely don't get the second chance to live ...
Look into the scientific evidence for reincarnation
Did you feel this selfishness also, when he states this?
you actually do, but not as the same person.
I run marathons here in Japan, but I could not imagine the conditioning it takes to do such climbs. Such a beautiful place but so dangerous.
Although K-2 is the second highest mountain in the world, the degree of difficulty in climbing it is far higher than Mt. Everest. And the mountain is remote, steep with frequent rock falls, avalanches and seracs breaking off and tumbling down the steep mountain. Sudden change in weather is common, winds can be dangerous. Sherpas don't like to climb K-2 and won't usually, so mountaineers are pretty much on their own on that mountain! Due to its remoteness, help is NOT rapidly forthcoming if an emergency occurs. K-2 is a beautiful mountain, but deadly.
People are aware of this
@@fredriksvard2603 Of course they are, which makes their pursuit all the more inane!
Like climbing a steep pyramid w/risk of avalanche and no oxygen
It's surprising that they thought there's safety in numbers. They must have known that you can't help other people at that altitude and on top of that, other people's slowness is a danger to you. Starting the climb late was the moment they should have realised it was going to be disastrous, and continuing when someone had died was wrong. But the programme explains quite well the pressures that professional mountaineers are under. It's all a trap and they fell in it
@@ThatWasPrettyFunny We're all aware that he and they realised IN HINDSIGHT that they'd made a huge mistake. What I'm actually talking about is their faulty initial decision-making process. On the other hand, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
So, Sarah, what moral code are you using when you say it was "wrong"?
@@glitteringsunshine4306 I'm not sure if there's a named moral code for abandoning a climb out of respect for your friend who you have just watched fall to his death. what are you getting at?
Continuing the climb is what most climbers signed up to do. Everyone who does this climb knows how deadly it is. Everyone knows that they will come across bodies (like on Everest). You say it should be out of respect, but to a climber, finishing the climb is how they show respect. Because otherwise their friend would have died for nothing. You can have your opinion and that is fine, but I don't think you understand...
Become professional something else.
And your family gets to keep you.
Fantastic filming. Just hearing their puffed out breathing is like I’m right behind them. Best wishes from Australia 🇦🇺
They sounded like my dogs after running outside in the heat. Panting for air !
I just love this channel thanks a lot admin for bringing such amazing documentaries to us
It seems like you all should have simply turned around and went home. Exactly like the 96 Everest cluster***k.
carry skis for the way down 🤔
@@jfrtbikgkdhjbeep9974 snowboard
Excellent docuvideo ! Thank you. Always a sad day when we lose climbers in the mountain, whatever the cause. However, I think it is important that all climbers, sponsors, family, public understand that anytime a climber starts up a high or difficult climb, there is a strong possibility that he will not come down alive. This is a characteristic inherent to the sport and it is why insurance companies exclude this hazard from routine life insurance policy coverage. With deepest sympathies to the family and friends of those lost. May they rest in peace.
There is a reverence and power on these mountains. Stay away is the message. Over 3000 feet you oxygen level is challenge.
Very well written @oldcat3439.
This is so informative! Great job, fantastic reporting!🌻🌼🐝 Keep it up 🙌
A great documentary! Thank you!
Well, this is part of the reason National Geographic Documentaries aren't as good as they used to be. The simple fact that it reduces EVERYTHING that happened that night into an after the after statement of "There were icefalls, people died" completely undercuts everything the documentary had been building up to.
It is gruesome, but the Gilkey memorial also contains remains from fallen climbers. I have read their can be a scent of decomposition around it it warmer weather.
si . true
What a gorgeous summit and glacier!
I love the mountains. Usually I'm going to one every weekend. I hunt, fish, trap, and horn hunt and love all of it. But what these climbers do is absolutely insane to me. Even if I knew 100% I'd be safe I'd still never climb what they do. I've had to stop watching videos because the heights and steepness of what they deal with freaks me out lol. I don't even know how we are the same species. Climbers brains are build different. God bless them.
Avalanche crashes nearby. Mountaineer: “Seeing that awesome power makes u think of uh all the uh possibilities!”
Most everybody else: Death comes to mind.
That’s what he was implying…
All the possible ways to die lol
You can feel the horror & the pain at 29:12 in his voice .. It will just move your heart & a cold wave will slowly start moving in your spine..
This was an amazing experience. RIP to those that were determined .
RIP to those who've been killed trying to rescue those who were stupidly, blindly determined..... Not that all hav been, but a huge fraction
i think more obsessed than determined
in order to get to the top of a mountain they seem to lose their humanity and barely seem to react when someone died. wtf
I've always been fascinated by this mountain. I recommend Ed Viesturs book dedicated to K2 specifically. It's my 2nd favorite mountaineering read after Annapurna.
Great books
Both those peaks are alive and vile
great author.
What wankers
Anatoli Boukreevs book Climbing about 96 Everest tragedy is a great book as well.. Kraukers book made him look bad and he lied about Anatoli big time..he also lied about porters carrying Sandy Pittman expresso machine to base camp
Really good documentary. Thank you
"There was no sign it would go wrong on the way down."... 2 people died 20 minutes earlier.. sorry but I can't feel bad for these people.
This huge build up on how challenging the bottle neck is...sherpa does it in the dark...
They are the real badasses
Wonderful documentary!
I think of young parents who I know who have passed from cancer, and loved ones watching them die - they’d give anything for more life. Then these guys choose this and call their spouse to tell them they’re dying - for what purpose? It’s incredible to watch.
Almost Always privileged people that have never been tested by life acting like this is something spiritual funny thing is they pretty much get carried by the Sherpa.
@@Chefshatehim Spot on Mark.
Beautiful film beautiful Recording, i keep watching again and again its my favourite place in Pakistan,, love from Englan🇬🇧💖🇵🇰
I have thought about this intensely, and have formed the conclusion that there are no tragedies on 8000m peaks; only choices, and their consequences.
Except for sherpas or local guides who risk their lives and sometimes loose them to attempt to save their clients.
indeed, I applaud your sentiment and insight. Mountaineers are an odd breed, all slightly maladjusted in my view; like Morris dancers and Hare Krishnas, mercifully, a danger only to themselves. Sea level is where it is at, with Rabelais, Shakespeare, Gruyere cheese, football, real ale, the Letters of Lord Byron and most of all, my sweetheart Nadine, source of all my consolation.....I salute you, madam !
@@katekelley1533 well said, I couldn’t agree more 💜❄️🌨🕊🤟🏻
I THINK IT'S A GIGGLE
Smart!
I don't even feel save if I have to walk through a small forest while it's kind of getting close to dusk. I can't imagine to be at the summit of Mount Everest and to have 5 hours of climbing downwards in the dark ahead of me. Then again, I can't imagine to ever want to be in any altitude like this at all!
It isnt everest
How can you justify to your wife or kids climbing a mountain that kills 3 in 10 people?
@David Snow,
Thanks alot for posting. Really good documentary. It’s just a shame such a big chunk of the story wasn’t included.
Graham Bowley’s book, “No Way Down”, gives a fuller account of the unfolding disaster. It’s a good read.
Just in the middle of reading it.great book.
I feel like this doc explained the first death really well, and then like ten minutes later "and then I heard over the radio that 11 people died" and we get NO explanation whatsoever
@@nadapenny8592 yeah the definitely don't explain what happened at nightfall when those summit teams tried to descend. I am sure the book is much more accurate.
There is another documentary about this that is much longer and explains all of the deaths and the aftermath.
Buried in the sky is a much better account. The level of background informations is incredible. I didn't like that in the foreword the author says that he was basically assigned an article on the tragedy and he didn't like alpinism. I think his lack of overall knowledge and reaserch shows compared to Buried in the Sky
I misread the title (Fatal Attitude), and I maintain that that would have been a more correct and realistic title for this video.
I have to say you sure presented this all well, clearly,...thanks alot it was interesting
I’d make a “leave me where I lay” pact with everyone.
Do not risk your life trying to retrieve me. Just let my body be in its final resting place.
I flew over Alps to Amsterdam. I was terrified it was in March and covered with snow. I pray to get over quickly. One week later a plane crash.
Feels mildly inappropriate to continue and then be dancing on the summit a few hours after someone in your group died metres from you. Meanwhile the people who chose to stay at camp 4 as they thought it was stop dangerous are having some PTSD inducing experiences
Thanks !
Ale piękny film. 😊 Widoki z wyprawy niepowtarzalne...bo ten szczyt jest niepowtarzalny. Pozdrawiam was🇵🇱
I’ve literally never heard of a good thing happen when people stay out late to summit.
The legends Muhammad Ali Sadpara and John Snorri. Rip
Appreciate the upload, awesome story. Watching from Australia, we only have "hills" here. Everyone has their journey, no judgement.
But, as a diver I'm jealous of the vast karst topography you guys have like the Nullarbor!
You're still closer to world class mountaineering than most with New Zealand nearby.
You are always welcome to visit Pakistan. Big mountains, big hearts. :)
@@goodfortune4317 - maybe just visit for tea (not mountains).
Good stuff. Harsh reality 😢 💔
There’s a podcast that tells this story very well. It’s called “Against the odds” by Wondery.
Thanks !
thank you for the recommendation. I listened to it and i was totally enthralled!
Thanks! I'm always looking for good podcasts, because watching these videos gives me migraines. Appreciate the recommendation.
I just wounder how the families who are left behind are doing? I know when my husband was in Saudi Arabia in the 90s I absolutely was so stressed and anxious I finally had a break down not knowing what was going on, I finally had a bad break down that affects me to this day! It’s just so sad
Why wrte you stressed and anxious that he was in Saudi Arabia
@@adidascap9441 war
31:15 It was so wonderful, we narcissistically summit, and someone just died below us. All well.
Sickening.
Finally the good stuff!
Different mountain, but reading Anatolis book climbing about 96 Everest disaster
Great insight into how Mountain companies operate it focused on Mt.Madness and Scott Fischer
Our Pakistani hero Ali sid para cross k2 many times. RIP legend
What makes them climb the mountain despite knowing the fact that every 1 out of 4 is going to die?
Poetry One .. George Mallory … when asked why he wanted to climb Mt Everest replied
“ because it’s there” … the most famous quote in mountaineering :)
You mean 1 out of 4.
@@MaxRank yeah, thank you for correction
for one thing it's one death for every four summits, not one death for every four climbers. Most climbers never reach the summit. I don't know, though. I guess everybody tells themselves they won't be the one who pushes themselves beyond safe limits.
what does he say at @ 32:53 that is cut out?
Edit: i found the video on vimeo it has the 5 or so minutes cut out of the youtube versions, they essentially detail the lack of supplies, oxygen and how drained they are after being above 8,000m for 2 days and wonder if they would survive the decent after 3, concluding that they have to leave the 4-5 stranded survivors above them.
A perfect summit day ... the sun warming up the ice the whole day since the early morning ... no wind to cool the surface ... and then finally collapsing seracs destroy the ropes ...
I just got done watching that project possible documentary on Netflix. That guy is amazing to be able to do this in 21 hours, let alone all 14 peaks in 5 months.
Me too. They climbed to Camp 2, "slept 4 hours", then summitted and descended back to base camp the next day. They were climbing those 8000 meter peaks like I climb a 4000 to 4500 meter peak. Crazy how fit they all were.
@@michaelb1761 yeah it's super amazing what those guys did and were capable of! Still not bad what you're doing man! I drove up pikes peak in Colorado this summer and hiked around at 14,000 I was out of breath pretty damn quick and I live at 8500. I definitely would die at 20,000 ft and higher 😂
I thought it was illegal to climb 8300 meters more than once in a year ??
Thank you David Snow for the documentary.
The sound of silence is in the air at extreme altitude.
thats the ear drums shutting down and the delirium of thinned oxygen .. coupled with fatigue and cold 😌
That has to be an eerie feeling and peaceful feeling at the same time. I definitely have no desire to attempt such a feat, but much respect to those who do!
Love and respect for all global mountaineers from K2 Pakistan 🌙✌☝🗻🚩🌲❤🙏🌏
jfc that recording of the rescuer... he just wanted to bring a body down and someone else ended up dying :(
Brilliantly put together, RIP to the fallen.
Eleven People , gone just take that in , a real thought provoking Vid .
I really don't understand why the word "Tragedy" is used? These are all experienced mountaineers who know exactly what they are doing and are more than well aware of the risks.
Great story but so tragic.
Прекрасна грозная К2,рассказ участников,виды на гору,палатки,статичные сцены сняты отлично,а восхождение,движение,самое важное-камера дергается,кадры по полсекунды...ожидала лучшего,но в целом фильм один из лучших документальных.Восходителям здоровья,новых вершин,возвращайтесь всегда,всего доброго,наилучшего!!
Perhaps having run exactly 50 marathons in my life is no comparison, but like the comments made early in the film, you DO feel a sense of foreboding,of.."Why am I doing this?" And yet the challenge makes you WANT to do it.
I just didn't want to risk having a part of me being amputated and then make my other challenges harder to achieve, like losing a part of my foot for having the thrill of climbing "once".
people died but we made it to the top. it was worth it.
30:53 7PM to reach the summit above 8500m. So cold night at that height. Brains really stopped working there.
You couldn't ask for a better day in a million years ❤
The most insane thing is that they just carry on after 2 people already died. Unbelievable!
WTF is up with these people
You must not understand the mentality of those who want to go above the point humans can breathe.
exactly. its truly disturbing. these people are not climbers , they are obsessed
They dont have much choice. If they stay at the same spot or try to help they risk their life and also the lives of the whole team.
@@nkbn2580 they can go down
"You could not have asked for a better day in a million years." Bullshit
Of all of the docs, this is the absolute best. Keep it up, please.
Great honest documentary
Why wouldn't they bear in mind an ultimate departure time on forehand? If that hour is exceeded, just face it and DON'T leave anymore.
I am not a climber, so sorry for being ignorant, but I don't understand why anyone would still go for the summit when you're behind scedule?
My ignorance is the sane as yours, but your comment is to me nothing but common sense. It’s supposed to be the hard rule to follow in regards to summiting but like you I’m not knowledgeable of all the ins and outs. I don’t understand the sport to begin with, for many reasons, but I’ll keep those mostly to myself. Better things to do; more productive things, beneficial things.
@@mynamedoesntmatter8652 Well, one thing we can say even as complete outsiders: leaving after the ultimate hour doesn't contribute much to the safety.
Another thing we can say too: in the scenario of many deadly accidents in the history, they left after the calculated "safe time".
If doesn't seem to be that complicated.
Being arrogant and callous isn't essential to becoming a successful 8,000m+ mountain climber... but it helps.
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