Hitting Your Lines Using Teebox Geometry | Disc Golf Tips for Beginners

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  • čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
  • You're in the woods, you line up your shot, start your throw, and....QUACK! You smack the first tree available. Your friends are stifling a little laughter, and your frustration for hitting lines continues to build. Missing your line is an incredibly frustrating part of disc golf, and the pros seem to make it look so easy even on super tight technical courses!
    What if I told you there was something simple the pros were doing to hit their lines that most beginners are not? That might seem obvious, but this one simple tip is so easy to implement you'll have guaranteed success with hitting your lines easier by bringing this one new approach to your game. What is this magical tip to avoid first available worldwide?? You'll have to watch to find out!
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    Chapters:
    0:00​ Intro
    0:37 Setting the Stage
    2:06 The Major Problem
    3:23 Common Movement Paths
    4:34 Course Examples
    7:31 Wrap Up
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Komentáře • 174

  • @devonterry9385
    @devonterry9385 Před 2 lety +28

    Okay... the board games... the dice shirt... you HAVE to play D&D... am I right!?

    • @vaultkreeper5469
      @vaultkreeper5469 Před 2 lety +2

      You know good & damn well this dude is the best DM in his whole county. LOL

    • @RobbieCDiscgolf
      @RobbieCDiscgolf  Před 2 lety +35

      @@vaultkreeper5469 I’ve got an incredible DM who crushes it for our table, but I ran our last campaign and had a blast! Zombie sheep, Sea Witches, and a fiesty little Gnome Monk kept things exciting!!

    • @kassill3786
      @kassill3786 Před 2 lety +1

      @@RobbieCDiscgolf Take my sub you beautiful bearded nerd! About to do some quick math this afternoon after watching this

    • @BinaryBard64
      @BinaryBard64 Před 2 lety +1

      @@RobbieCDiscgolf I was half expecting you to say Pathfinder ;)

    • @Linky609
      @Linky609 Před 2 lety +2

      But do you play mtg Robbie?

  • @mattfredericks5855
    @mattfredericks5855 Před 2 lety +7

    As a newer player who often bonks the first tree to the left of the tee box, this made a lot of sense and I’m looking forward to utilizing these ideas!

  • @bomberboy93_37
    @bomberboy93_37 Před 2 lety +7

    This video is exactly what I needed to hear. I was doing a standard run up, but constantly releasing them with an anhiezer no matter what I did. But now I realize it was the fact that I was running from the back right of the teebox to the top left of the teebox and that what was causing it. Thanks Man!!!

  • @OCW_UCT
    @OCW_UCT Před 2 lety +4

    This guy and his intros XD well done, love it

  • @bryanmannoia8410
    @bryanmannoia8410 Před 2 lety

    I have already figured this out but it's important to get this concept out there. it makes a big difference. well done.

  • @sehsbaseball32
    @sehsbaseball32 Před 2 lety

    My friend pointed this out to me a few years ago and it completely changed my game. Good points here !

  • @fewpoundcory
    @fewpoundcory Před 2 lety +29

    This video only has zero dislikes because trees don't have thumbs

  • @TheResistantCow
    @TheResistantCow Před 2 lety +1

    I've been throwing disc at the beer league level for years and never had coaches or lessons. This guy has made my beer league game significantly better!! Everything is par 3, nothing is out of bounds, and 1 beer per 4 holes. Still shooting under 3-6 under par at most of my local courses😁

    • @danielpenrodii2389
      @danielpenrodii2389 Před 2 lety

      I was on the same kind of level and then one day found out how much great content was on CZcams. A simple video here and there during a bathroom break and boom…sudden improvement.

  • @mortenknudsen9155
    @mortenknudsen9155 Před 2 lety +4

    I laughed so hard when you were lying like a princess, wiggling your toes on the teebox, i think i swallowed half a pen... :D

  • @nickolasbedford2121
    @nickolasbedford2121 Před 3 měsíci

    Bruh, after taking 7 years off of disc golf to focus on family and career, it's been an arduous 6 months of re-education. Over the past few weeks, I've focused on my "Tee-Box Geometry" (although didn't have a cool name for it) from a slightly different perspective. As I approach the tee, ill pick out my line. Then do a quick practice walk-up where I'll pay attention to the relative 90° angle my shoulders should rotate to so that im perpendicular to my line at the peak of the backswing. Feel like it's using geographical features to always know your line although you can no longer see it visually. Yeah, probably overcomplicated, but at least is not math. Cheers from Southern Louisiana and thank you for the awesome content.

  • @TheCWHatton
    @TheCWHatton Před 2 lety

    51 year old rookie. Love your videos Robbie. Have taught me a lot in a short period of time. Cheers!

  • @kalamazoobassjunky
    @kalamazoobassjunky Před 2 lety

    Love your videos man. Intros crack me up, and i always learn a lot. Thanks man!

  • @paigeemricson5854
    @paigeemricson5854 Před 2 lety +1

    You're disc golf content is not only soooooo helpful, but your sense of humor and goofiness has been cracking me up all day. ❤ very excited to hit the course and implement the tips I've picked up from your channel :)

  • @cadmando18
    @cadmando18 Před 2 lety +1

    Another awesome video! Even if you already know this, it's amazing to me how much you forget to keep track of as you learn more stuff. Some of the first things you learned kind of get lost as you keep progressing. Thank you again for this and keep it up! Love the content.

  • @jonthomas545
    @jonthomas545 Před 2 lety

    Great work, Robbie, love your content. Thanks so much!

  • @alecreese2370
    @alecreese2370 Před 2 lety

    Hands down one of your best videos! Instant fix for so many! Great job!

  • @austineudy1255
    @austineudy1255 Před 2 lety

    This video was exactly what I needed! Thank you!

  • @billwarf4229
    @billwarf4229 Před 2 lety

    Good teaching Robbie. Thanks!

  • @ericcinsalant9525
    @ericcinsalant9525 Před 2 lety

    Love your vids man please don’t slow down and keep em coming!!!!!!!!

  • @sebastianmendoza6875
    @sebastianmendoza6875 Před 2 lety

    Honestly love this guys bro. He has helped my game sooooo much.

  • @morsumbra9692
    @morsumbra9692 Před 2 lety

    Subbed just for the "left handed players are the only ones in there right minds" I glowed at that punniness.

  • @jre9571
    @jre9571 Před 2 lety

    On a few specific courses in my area, this is crucial. I did learn Hyzer vs Anhyzer corners. Hadn’t till now, occurred to me for that one! Thanks so much! Love your channel too-

  • @CoachCarter2184
    @CoachCarter2184 Před 2 lety

    The board game collection back there is legit! Love the series! Can’t wait to use some of the tips I’ve watched over Vlogmas

  • @christopherschoenmann8260

    This concept has helped my drives immensely. Thanks Robbie!

  • @jacobwood6437
    @jacobwood6437 Před 2 lety

    Seeing that you have the game smallworld on your shelf just makes me so happy. I love that board game! Also, great video man. I appreciate it

  • @KevinQNguyen
    @KevinQNguyen Před 2 lety

    Thanks just getting into this game , helpful insight indeed.

  • @krispendleton4662
    @krispendleton4662 Před rokem

    One of the single most valuable technique videos for improving the game! Well done Robbie!

  • @mikehodson5112
    @mikehodson5112 Před rokem

    Awesome advice on teebox geometry techniques! Love it! Thanks brother!!!

  • @holden5082
    @holden5082 Před 2 lety

    DUDE! Killer content! This is great!

  • @MyStupidChannel
    @MyStupidChannel Před 2 lety

    awesome video. ive never thought of this. it makes so much sense now. ill keep this in mind when i go play

  • @jstaverage
    @jstaverage Před 2 lety +2

    I've been doing this since I started it's helped me avoid a lot of trees and other problems. I think it has to do with thinking of it like Mini golf. There's so much space in mini golf you could hit from and some are more advantageous than others so I figured it had to be the same in disc golf haha great video!

  • @soeunyuos8403
    @soeunyuos8403 Před 2 lety

    Hi Rob, thank you so much for the videos . This is one of the best video !! I’m a new player. Been play for 2 months now. I have learn a lot from your videos

  • @1973bunky
    @1973bunky Před 2 lety

    This is the second video I have seen on this topic in the past week or so. Started doing it during my last round and shot my best score ever on that course. This is SO on point.

  • @drewkruer1170
    @drewkruer1170 Před 8 měsíci

    This has been one of the most helpful videos I've found as a new disc golfer. Has helped me find lines and how to aim my shots. Another great video!

  • @meto4837
    @meto4837 Před 2 lety

    Dude.. this video is awesome, very well made

  • @zimbo4606
    @zimbo4606 Před rokem

    Thx Robbie for great work you do to us who are beginners. I have playd disc golf now 6months and watched your videos for a week and allready i have improved my total round score with 5 shots . Keep up the good work. Every morning when watched your content im excited to go to course an practice more.

  • @bwahb1kenob
    @bwahb1kenob Před rokem

    Very helpful thanks!

  • @TankFiora
    @TankFiora Před 2 lety

    Loved this

  • @RiceDaddy-wo2fy
    @RiceDaddy-wo2fy Před 2 lety

    Man this video helped me a lot thank you

  • @havediscwilltravel6180

    Love the L.H.T. Guide!

  • @mitchmoose2208
    @mitchmoose2208 Před 2 lety

    I really appreciate this tip. I'm just an average disc golfer, but I also used to bowl so I've always naturally applied what you're talking about to disc golf, because bowling has a very similar mechanic. I often bring this up to me friends if they have issues but can't ever really connect with them because they never knew how to bowl. It's nice being an amateur and seeing that you've already taught yourself something a great player is putting out.

  • @jakec5550
    @jakec5550 Před 2 lety

    Honestly, I never really thought much about the tee pad, but this made so much sense to me and I could identify so many times when not paying attention to my position on the box lead me to throw in one direction or another. Great stuff.

  •  Před 2 lety +2

    Never really thought of this. Got to try this out.

  • @jahkyleezy1315
    @jahkyleezy1315 Před 2 lety

    Graet vid I often consider teebox geometry glad to hear how important it is

  • @williamburk5818
    @williamburk5818 Před 2 lety +7

    I didn't know that moving diagonally was apparently so common. I always just walked straight ahead unless the line was obviously off to one side or the other of the tee

  • @echoli2859
    @echoli2859 Před 2 lety

    Another great video! Thanks Robbie! Could you please make a video about warm ups before tournaments?

  • @prattacaster
    @prattacaster Před 2 lety

    This is what I needed the day before my first tournament. Lots of trees and small tee boxes. 👍

  • @gerrymcdonald1311
    @gerrymcdonald1311 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey robbie!! I am glad I met you the other day at Iron City. Anyway thanks for all the tips you give for the game. I have only been playing for 9 months. But I really enjoy this game. So I can always use tips on how to get better at this. Thanks man!!

  • @joebrannon8843
    @joebrannon8843 Před 2 lety

    I had a local pro tell me that I should point my front hip at my line in my walk up…really simple, really worth it!

  • @nicktruitt5589
    @nicktruitt5589 Před 2 lety

    Good information here!

  • @toryroberts1343
    @toryroberts1343 Před rokem

    Ever since ive gotten a pitching net with a moveable "strike zone" net thing, my accuracy has improved greatly! Its basically a 3x3 grid that velcros onto the net.

  • @ChadSolberg
    @ChadSolberg Před 2 lety

    Awesome as usual. I do this on certain holes but it was always done unconsciously and on holes where it, the teebox, obviously pointed in the wrong direction for the hole... Thanks! I will try to be more aware of this.

  • @rockitoutdoors9082
    @rockitoutdoors9082 Před 2 lety

    Pretty cool video I have been doing this tee-box geometry for a while now, but it’s nice to know I wasn’t crazy for thinking this.

  • @gustavjandausch470
    @gustavjandausch470 Před 2 lety

    First time I saw this was on Sinclair Disc Golf, and it has definitely helped me a lot

  • @Precisionmagert
    @Precisionmagert Před 2 lety

    Great advice and great video. Stay blessed

  • @jonathanvanoostveen5309

    Just liked it for the D&D shirt.

  • @naturallyEP
    @naturallyEP Před 2 lety

    Sweet vid brahj!

  • @jeremiahmoss6015
    @jeremiahmoss6015 Před 2 lety

    Being the Fort is my home and primary plyed course i am definitely going to apply this soon.

  • @shaunpalus
    @shaunpalus Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this tip! I hit a Personal Best today and hit nearly every line keeping in mind of my direction on the tee pad.

  • @godzilla2721
    @godzilla2721 Před 2 lety

    Although I am a woods guy, this video helped me a lot already. Yesterday, I applied some of these principles on my home woodsy course (Suwanee Creek Park) and immediately I performed better on three of the four holes that traditionally have given me trouble. Thanks, Robbie! You're the man

    • @godzilla2721
      @godzilla2721 Před 2 lety

      By the way, How do we join the Birdie Fam again?

  • @P-B-G_YT
    @P-B-G_YT Před 2 lety +1

    I've learned how to play on tight courses here in the Yukon Territory, so choosing the tee box line comes naturally. I still hit obstacles, but they are rarer than when I began playing.

  • @35mikeking
    @35mikeking Před 2 lety

    I played at Inverness last Sunday where tight tunnel shots are basically on every hole. I missed so many shots because I was hitting lines poorly. I even considered at one point if I was using the teepad incorrectly. You showed me that I was indeed using the pad wrongly. Super helpful video! I almost always go back right corner to upper left corner. I gotta change my ways!

  • @theemonegro
    @theemonegro Před 2 lety +1

    You're intro was great recommended for everyone increase in birdie decrease in bogie lol

  • @brettskizz
    @brettskizz Před 2 lety

    Bald hill park Melbourne.
    Been using this geometry on a few hole for a while. But thanks for making it simple

  • @brandonmiller289
    @brandonmiller289 Před 2 lety

    This is 100% true. During the Mega Bowl I had a card who all hit the same tree and I was the only one to hit the gap and I was the only one who adjusted on the tee box. I actually thought it was common knowledge but I’ve realized it’s not as common. Great video!

  • @aaronsmith6518
    @aaronsmith6518 Před 2 lety

    Solid advice. Good video and the dice set shirt as well. Keep them coming Robbie.

    • @RobbieCDiscgolf
      @RobbieCDiscgolf  Před 2 lety +1

      Gotta shout out to all my D&D players out there!! Monk all day!

    • @aaronsmith6518
      @aaronsmith6518 Před 2 lety

      @@RobbieCDiscgolf I am currently playing a wizard and am a disc golf newbie.

  • @Kissybear85
    @Kissybear85 Před 2 lety

    Nice videos, Robbie! Also kudos for owning 7 Wonders!

  • @buddyskate8476
    @buddyskate8476 Před 2 lety +1

    Very cool

  • @andreaskramerdg
    @andreaskramerdg Před 2 lety

    Love your videos :) I would be so interested in a video of how to properly position yourself to your disc when throwing an upshot! That's probably my biggest weakness right now

    • @RobbieCDiscgolf
      @RobbieCDiscgolf  Před 2 lety

      I love throwing upshots honestly!! I’ll get another upshot video out here soon!!

  • @thecollins41
    @thecollins41 Před 2 lety

    Magic City Mega Bowl!!!

  • @kelo8685
    @kelo8685 Před 2 lety

    More videos you say!?
    Oh I was already subscribed.

  • @jovie311
    @jovie311 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for the lht. No one has done that yet that I've seen.

  • @johnsiota828
    @johnsiota828 Před 2 lety

    This video couldn't have come at a more perfect time. I'm planning to hit a new course this weekend that has a literal tunnel shot - a gap under a bridge, maybe 10 ft wide. We'll see if teebox geometry can aid in my complete lack of tunnel shot skills

  • @supercyborg33
    @supercyborg33 Před rokem

    I've used the tips in this video to turn a hole I hated because of the tight line into a hole that's a constant birdie/ potential ace run 👍👍

  • @brucemichaelwentworth3857

    Your tan is on point brother!

  • @skarpengland
    @skarpengland Před 2 lety +5

    Me, and my stubborn personality
    4:40: *Ah yes, a roller straight down*

  • @TheRetroBrian
    @TheRetroBrian Před 2 lety

    I noticed this in my round today, just before watching this video. I didn’t know how to name it, but I noticed how I would pick a side of the box and use that otto my advantage. I love the idea of moving laterally on the box as well and will need to try that out on my next round.

  • @tonyphillips8555
    @tonyphillips8555 Před 2 lety

    Good stuff

  • @A-staticCal
    @A-staticCal Před 2 lety

    Dude, I loved geometry in school You're speaking my language. And I know from my own experience, this stuff works like a charm. Now, if I can only remember it better than the dots on the pool table that Donald Duck taught me in geometry class.

  • @postedbythisguy
    @postedbythisguy Před 2 lety

    I needed this. Just started playing again after several years off. I always played George Ward, but now I live closer to Trussville. I played Carter a few weeks ago and hit trees on every single hole 😂 it was demoralizing.

    • @MrEvans557
      @MrEvans557 Před 2 lety +1

      I took some time off too but that muscle memory is starting to kick back in no worries😁

  • @chainraiderdiscgolf
    @chainraiderdiscgolf Před 2 lety

    Disc golf stands on it's own and I really wish we would get away from "Ball" games terminology. We do not use a "Tee" in disc golf and this is why our crew calls it, "Launch pad, or the box." .... I get it, back in the day they modeled this sport around ball golf. But now, it is out growing ball golf and we need terminology that actually makes sense to this sport. We don't use a tee to rest our discs on, we launch them to a basket/chains....not a hole. Anyway, great video Robbie!

  • @marktxm
    @marktxm Před 2 lety

    Great intro! 😂 entertaining

  • @johnbarba851
    @johnbarba851 Před 2 lety

    WOW ! I have always ran up to left side of tee box no matter the shot for "consistency." This video was eye opening and will change my entire approach ! I thought my swing had kinks--which it does for sure, haha--but I think my footwork and placement is the bigger issue. Thank you for this.

  • @jwoo1302
    @jwoo1302 Před měsícem

    Always, every course out here in the PNW! Literally almost every hole.

  • @michaelcushman
    @michaelcushman Před 2 lety +1

    Good point. I would say it another way. Ignore the tee pad's direction, and travel toward your window target, Always. But, make sure you release while on the tee to keep it legal.

  • @chasegarcia4595
    @chasegarcia4595 Před 2 lety

    First off, love the board game collection! Secondly, hole 9 at Winfield, AL. I started throwing from the back of the tee because it opens up a forehand hyzer (RH) that isn’t too visible from the front of the tee!

    • @RobbieCDiscgolf
      @RobbieCDiscgolf  Před 2 lety +1

      It’s a tricky hole for sure!! Will designed a great one!’

  • @KonceptLive
    @KonceptLive Před 2 lety

    I could not figure out why I could not hit any line after not playing for about 2 weeks. A buddy noticed my run up was off and recorded me from the back of the tee pad. I was able to fix the issue and now I'm throwing better than before. Being more conscious of the line you need to take and how to be positioned in order to achieve it really helped! Seems like such a simple solution, but this is something that is easy to overlook when hitting struggles.

  • @QuincyQuoted
    @QuincyQuoted Před 2 lety

    I saw this in Uli’s down the fairway episodes, but this was a lot more specific.

  • @Beaglefaust
    @Beaglefaust Před 2 lety

    I brought this way of thinking from golf (the club hits ball kind). IMO it's very important and usually not discussed enough in DG. I think we all tend to throw along the target line established by our body, stepping with the lower and upper, which wants to sync with lower. As you said, the exception is trying to mess around with release. That's a sure way to add confusion and inconsistency.
    Edit: For example, in regular golf if you want to hit a draw (RH: R-->L curve) you tee off the left side to open up the fairway. And golf tees, like DG tees, will often point where you don't want to go. It can be mentally tough - but important - to go against tee direction.

  • @aronatvw
    @aronatvw Před 2 lety +3

    This is great. I typically go straight down the middle, I'm definitely going to change this accordingly. One question I have, I have not seen talked about at all is i often throw a hyzer flip low, specifically when I am going for a large throw, any ideas? Just follow through maybe?

    • @drt3k765
      @drt3k765 Před 2 lety +1

      Yo, been playing a long time, but definitely not a pro, so take this with a grain or two of salt. Without seeing your throw, my guess would be that you might be curling your arm on your reach-back, or maybe more accurately, that you're reaching back and up, reaching for what feels like extra power, especially when you're trying to go big, feeling like you need to come crushing down on that angle. Combined with your usual timing for a flat throw, this could be causing your shots to come out low, as you're throwing with your usual timing, but now on a different line in your pull-thru, going from high to low instead of straight through.
      If that's sounding at all like what the issue might be, try achieving your desired angle by tilting at the hips instead of trying to force the flip with brute force. Basically line up like you're going to throw a flat shot, but then tilt at the hips so that your whole upper body is now on that desired angle, then pull straight through like normal. That way you can get that nice flip pulled through on a flat line, rather than coming down at it. .

    • @aronatvw
      @aronatvw Před 2 lety +1

      @@drt3k765 thank you for the tip I will check that out!! I am constantly worried about rounding and have been trying to consciously square up my arm, shoulders etc which seems to be helping

  • @victorgalvan406
    @victorgalvan406 Před 2 lety

    Yeah. Hole 16 at Jack Brooks part in Hitchcock Texas. I'm gonna get the hole. I used to park it but stopped playing for a year. Now I can't make it half way down the path.

  • @marttisydanmetsa1696
    @marttisydanmetsa1696 Před 2 lety

    That intro deserves a like😅👍

  • @joelallonen5501
    @joelallonen5501 Před 9 měsíci

    super good videos for noob like me!

  • @Linky609
    @Linky609 Před 2 lety

    Using the tee pad to open the fairway is something I've recently started to do, hadn't heard the term "teebox geometry" it really helps. Now I just need to fix my grip lock issue 😂

  • @kristoferbrown8007
    @kristoferbrown8007 Před 9 měsíci

    Love the philosophy! Unfortunately if you round, it doesn't matter. 🤣 Get that squared away first or this is just compensating. I experience this first hand. I couldn't figure out why everything yanked right regardless of tee-pad position.

  • @jjw6961
    @jjw6961 Před 2 lety

    I typically try to picture the flight of my disc as either I know it or how it's projected to fly per the flight chart on Infinite then adjust my walk up from there. If I'm throwing my K1 Reko I know it's going to fly dead straight with a down the middle of the teepad walk up, so if there's a long hallway to the left I adjust that mental flight path a few notches counterclockwise and walk up more right to left.

  • @davidsinclaire1311
    @davidsinclaire1311 Před 2 lety

    Seriously never thought of it. Lol. Curious tho. I've seen some pros drive from beside a tee pad. What is up with that?

  • @AutoPartsOEMSupply
    @AutoPartsOEMSupply Před 2 lety

    I adjust my Tee Box geometry to get around trees or to throw straight through a small gap.

  • @craigrice2209
    @craigrice2209 Před 6 měsíci

    I'm waiting for Innova to drop the Halo Nexus Pig!! I have the Invader and I think its my favorite putter plastic

  • @robertanguiano148
    @robertanguiano148 Před 2 lety

    Been doing this on Hole 16 of Kincaid DGC in Anchorage, AK.

    • @zoonit1869
      @zoonit1869 Před 2 lety +1

      Kincaid is a pretty sweet course. Sucks that they got rid of Hilltop

    • @robertanguiano148
      @robertanguiano148 Před 2 lety

      @@zoonit1869 yeah, still really bummed about that.