Ahsoka - Space Whales and Other Nonsense
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Ahsoka is finished. Dave Filoni saved Star Wars! Oh, wait, no he didn't. Ahsoka was completely unapproachable to the general audience and at times lapsed into Mandalorian-style awfulness.
Rebels fans may have derived more joy from the show than the general audience. Then again, Ahsoka butchers a whole lot of Star Wars: Rebels lore as well, so... maybe not.
In order to avoid protracted copyright battles, I'll be releasing this review episode-by-episode across the next couple of weeks.
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Timestamps
Nothing is Good: 00:00 - 01:58
A New Hope vs Ahsoka: 01:59 - 13:22
What is the New Republic? 13:23 - 29:15
Jacen Syndulla: 29:16 - 33:21
Jedi Ruin Star Wars: 33:22 - 41:19
Ahsoka Sissors Sabine: 41:20 - 49:03
Rimming the Ring: 49:03 - 54:08
Zero-G Space Ballet: 54:09 - 57:53
Moby Dick in Space: 57:54 - 01:01:04
It Only Gets Worse: 01:01:05 - 01:04:34 - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Thanks to Bag Face and Mr Brown for their help on this one. Links are in the description.
Here’s hoping the capricious CZcams gods don’t decide to slap restrictions on it this time.
Glad to see the video is back. Thought I had a stroke or something when I went to watch this yesterday and could only find part 2.
"The episode breakdown no longer appears on our scopes!"
"Impossible! No critique that eloquent has a cloaking device."
*LittlePlatoon floats safely off towards the viewing audience*
@@AngelsLancesame, I was very confused ! Hopefully CZcams gods will be merciful on this one.
Yess ThelittlePlatoon on top 🗣🔥🔥🐐
Leave assoka alone.😂😭 You destroyed them enough Platoon.
To paraphrase a better villain; "If everyone's Force Sensitive, *evil laugh* no one will be..."
Syndrome was right, along with Thanos.
It is like they never bothered to think about the WHY of the things that were written in the OT.
The Jedi Order existed, but to have a story, a relatable, relatively contained story, they had to be trimmed down to a remnant.
Same with the Sith, limited to 2.
Disney is too dense to even give it a thought.
@@Kyle-sr6jm People like [thing] so let's flood the screen/story with [thing] is about as far as they go with the thinking process.
Syndrome was a true visionary. Dude was ahead of his time.
actually, if everyone is force sensitive, then everyone would be.
Sabine's outfit is more revealing of the fact that she has virtually no muscular definition, unlike, say, Terminator 2's Sarah Conner, nor does she have the presence of Aliens' Ripley. When Sarah Conner kicks the crap out of the psych ward personnel, you believe she could do it. When Ripley gears up in the elevator to rescue Newt, you believe she can handle two (!) heavy-duty weapons duct taped together (one of my all-time favorite scenes, BTW). Sabine is supposed to be part of a warrior cult - what is it I believe sabine can do, other than pout?
She can look smug! Wait, is that just another form of pout?
I’m not sure she can even pout.
Look good in a pair of pants?
That's an overall criticism I have with the actors on this show. Not so much the actors themselves, but rather the training they were put through by the studios. It's very clear they weren't prepped for the physical nature of these roles. Just look at Rosario Dawson's saber-work for proof.
@@Uzarran It's funny watching Hayden do it better than her, so many years after he learned it.
You're absolutely right; Ashoka training Jacen Syndulla would have been an immeasurably better show than Ashoka training Sabine.
I couldn't agree more, this is what the show needed and would have solved so many issues. Plus we needed a better writing team than what the show had, for all Dave Felloni's supposed character knowledge (he developed these characters) he could not have written them in a worse way.
The concept is better, but they would just butcher it in a number of other ways
Jacen is male though, Disney does not build UP male characters, only bring them down, Jacen dodged a bullet.
@@darkdwarf007 yes with the current writing team most assuredly.
@@George-um2vc agreed, that is the current trend and how Disney Star Wars is always playing out.
When Hera was complaining to the senators about how bad Thrawn was during the war for having killed her friends, I wanted Mon Mathma to yell out, "Bicth I pimped my own daughter to the son of a gangster! Don't talk to me about the evils of war"
I can't really see Mothma being that whiny. Also, it would require _this_ Mon Mothma to be the same character (or at least _have_ the same character) as the Mon Mothma of _Andor._
The daugher seemed pretty happy about it, honestly. She was a spoiled princess marrying a spoiled rich kid. But that was a weak argument by a fucking GENERAL. Leia lost her ENTIRE FUCKING HOME PLANET and took it better.
Hera:...
Hera:Still this affected *me* .
That would require Dave Filoni reading anyone else's script or understanding star wars
@@DannyEastes Filoni new name for me is Dave Baloney. Because he is full of it. Anyway...
DAVE BALONEY: I mean... should I really be made to read others works to write a story in *MY* universe.
Asohka is like kung-pow - trained sabine wrong as a joke off screen.
"Again with the squeaky shoes?"
"Just because someone gets stabbed with a lightsaber, doesn't mean that person is dead."
Kung pow lol. It all makes sense now. In kung pow a man can survive with his entire "stomach plug" punched out so the light saber thing follows logically if it is the same universe. 😂
All we need now is Sabine to say " I'm just a horny little honey weooo weooo" and it be perfect
*Disney lore: if you’re correct, you’re obviously either a covert enemy or need to be taught a lesson until you’re wrong.*
Room 101 rings a bell.
True
I was one of those player Bounty Hunters in Star Wars Galaxies. That felt like a big achievement too because there was a lot of grinding and quests to become a full-fledged BH. But it was awesome. Jedi were rare, and Bounty Hunters sometimes had to work together to bring them down because they were so good. Loved it.
CU killed the game.
I’m jealous you got to play it before it was wrecked!
I keep hear how that was the quintessential Star Wars game and I hate that I never knew of it until a few years ago.
SWG was not only a GREAT game, but a game that shows exactly how to make things work in an MMO. Perfect economy, player builts cities, space warfare and most importantly, a rich sandbox environment. If only I could get my Legends launcher working again. The game was best after Trials and NGE completely destroyed SWG.
Yuuuuup was a BH too. Then dropped it like a hot rock
In this episode we are told that training without your eyesight is a technique called "Zatoichi" which is clearly named after the fictional blind Japanese swordsman. To me, this is even more infuriating than the use of the term "ronin" by Thrawn later in the series.
I caught that too and couldn't help but grimace. You just know Dave thought he was being so clever and cool with that one.
Also yeah, the Ronin line is very stupid as well. Seeing as how it's Jedi knight, Thrawn should call her an errant. That's closer to what Ahsoka actually is considering she's still heroic and follows an ethical code. Ronin were more often than not rather shady as they had to do something to lose their status as Samurai and then usually do more shady things just to survive.
The dialogue in this series Legitimately comes across as a first draft with no revisions.
Would be even worse if they found a way to shoehorn the title of the series, if it weren’t the titular characters name.
Ex: The Show was called Star Wars: World Between Worlds
Anakin Skinwalker: “Live Or Die”
Ahsoka: “Anakin?!”
“Anakin: Don’t you get It snips?!
You are the world between worlds!!”
This is even worse than the game "Star Wars: Masters of Teräs Käsi", which means "Steel Hand" in Finnish, but at least that wasn't an actual existing thing so.... pass I guess?
so, Ahsoka's katana-like hilts didn't tell you the direction the show was heading? 🤔🤷🙇
@@thefilthyrhombus3856 Well, that isn't true at all. Many Ronin did nothing at all. Some higher up could get mad at your entire clan, and there you go.
All hail the platoon! He’s become quite the Longman
Haha I look forward to this dropping than the actual episodes, just like I was waiting for CharlieHopkinson to drop his NotObiWan videos of obi/qui/anakin reacting to the shows and movies
The long awaited sequel, Longman 2:The Lengthening
That's what she said!
Uh, I mean HE said, I guess.
Whatever makes you happy.
You actually forgot that Sabine was trained by her sudo-father figure kanan jarus, who was a blind Jedi, she has done all this before… when she was fighting for something far more emotional, her family’s survival. She should have shown force prowess then but she didn’t and had to make up for it with a vibro ship to grab her dark saber and jetpack to match Kanan’s jedi abilities. The fact she doesn’t recognize that here in DAVE’s magnum opus is insanity. It’s like a completely disconnected show from the material it came from.
Let's be real, Dave's Magnum Opus was TCW, and that was due to the creative filter that was George Lucas
@@corruptangel6793this was marketed as Dave's Magnum Opus as it was the first thing he had more or less unencumbered creative control over
@@davidcatabui2018 He didn't have that with Rebels?
@@corruptangel6793 I have no idea whether he did or not it just seemed from what little I heard from the commentariat and news coverage that Ahsoka was the first of its kind
Sad that Dave himself doesn't seem to remember things he wrote years ago for The Clone Wars animated series.
let’s hope this one doesn’t disappear like the last
maybe dont put a butt in the thumbnail🤷♂️
@@nobodyspecial4676but the show is ass
@@nobodyspecial4676maybe shut your lousy trap 😮😮😮
It's good when that happens though because it lets you know that he's doing something right that is scaring the studio.
@@treylo1995 ?
31:27 You really captured the “I want to die” grumble of Harrison Ford. Hats off to you!
I’m reviewing Ahsoka. Of course I want to die.
Jokes on you, I want to die and I haven't even seen this show. @@TheLittlePlatoon
@@jonbaxter2254
Hahahaaha
There, you got your chuckles. Now go to therapy, please.
Injure yourself.@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
The revelation that everyone can use the force reminded me of the bicycle repair man sketch from Monty Python in the world full of Supermen.
I like how Ahsoka's spacesuit specifically has parts for that cat on her head to fit in to. Totally seems like a reasonable use of resources.
Offcourse she has cat iam not surprised
Calling it “cat” shows you have no clue about her anatomy…
@@cambelloroxy9420to be fair, wtf is her anatomy?
@@seafoam6119 well she is a Togruta and the montrals atop of her head and the lekku that sprout downwards are important ( just like the lekku are important for Twi’leks)
You think if the helmet was simply huge it would require less resourses? Less air, for example?
26:00 one of the big problems is that the writers lost a perfect opportunity when Hera is question for her to give actual background on why Thrawn is a threat. Instead, she brings a personal things which backs up the senator asking if this is a personal crusade.
How much better would it have been for her to describe actions? He had taken to show how he is a genius and a threat.
The senator could’ve questioned the possibility of a non-human being able to unite the imperial remnant.
I was just thinking that if you were just watching the show with no reference to rebels or any of the books, you might not even realize Thron wasn’t human.
When you began talking about "anyone becoming a jedi" i immediately thought of Star Wars Galaxies. I was not expecting that to immediately be brought up right as i started remembering it haha
It was such a treat to see the first Jedi on my server and when my best friend in the guild attained it after *MONTHS* of work, we celebrated him, it was such a momentous achievement.
Then they just... gave it to everyone a couple of years later. It was such a kick to the teeth.
God i miss that game in its old iteration.
Someone should make a remake of it in its old version.
@DuplexWeevil337 There are several! Look up Star Wars Galaxies 2023, some of note are Legends and Stardust. There's Restoration of course but it's a tiny bit toxic
And if Jacen is the Jedi in training then Sabine could have stayed a mandolorian that can fight and hit what they shoot at
Thank you SO MUCH for the comment about SW Galaxies, it was literally on my lips when you mentioned it. Its one of the most concise examples of "Give people what they need, not what they want". I'll share a story about my time during SW Galaxies. It was in the early days where Jedi & Sith were basically rumors. A major fight in Mos Eisley breaks out; AT-STs, tons of stormtroopers, tons of rebels, laser blasts going off on each side...and then...a red light saber appears...everyone loses it! THEN...a green light saber goes off and for many, the first and last jedi duel they'll see with their own eyes begins and EVERYONE LOST THEIR MINDS! It became a sort of mythical event that people kept talking about for weeks. No other game ever recreated this, and might never do so.
This sequence was so special BECAUSE it was rare to see it, BECAUSE it was in universe that they were rare, made you feel like you were in Star Wars, not a game. If anything, It also motivated the few insane enough to do the necessary work to become one even more. It was a glorious example of a game being designed with the laws of that IP in mind...and then in later versions as Syndrome said so magnificently : When everyone is special, no one is.
"Mando-boarding"! Call me a thief, but I am 100% using that at some point in the near future!😂
Wonderful breakdown of how the scarcity of the Jedi is key to their narrative appeal. I didn't know the background of Galaxies, and that history you related is both depressing and oh so typical. There was a reason why the Mass Effect roleplay forum I spent 10 years on forbade any character who was too high-profile or well-connected.
Before NGE and a certain point, to become a Jedi or unlock force powers was kept secret. Upon creation of a character, 4 randomized professions had to be mastered before you could go that route. The devs were extremely tight lipped about it. There were in-game mechanics that were hints but I don't think anyone knew or were initially told what item or event gave the hint to the one profession to grind to unlock it. The ability for players to join a faction (Empire or Rebel) or a guild to join a faction and the player based economy (most items, made by other players such as weapons, healing items with a marketplace) made things very unique and great. I joined Empire and got to summon a stormtrooper, higher level and faction affinity you could call an AT-ST in. It really loaned itself to a certain level of natural roleplay. I left before NGE as I had IRL stuff going on and figuring out the economy was a bit confusing for some. I think you wanted to mine for materials and become a tycoon in that if nobody had done so, yet. It was very innovative in these regards. Cheers.
"It's a recipe for disaster and Feloni is an expert cook."
This is one of your best videos, and that is saying a lot! Especially enjoyed the scene comparison at the beginning, your reasons why Jacen should've been the main character, why less Jedis are better referencing the video game I've never heard of, and your laser cannon thing analysis.
Mixed with your humour and editing, this is an absolute masterpiece!
I wish the writers and Feloni would watch this!
Thank you so much for this video and for all you do!
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Man i felt that in my soul when said " imagining the show we could've got is painful"
Originally, "lasers" in Star Wars are actually plasma "bolts" encased in a magnetic field that helps keep the plasma together. Once the field weakens, the plasma dispersed in an explosive manner. If I remember correctly, the Geonosian fighters don't normally fight in an atmosphere, hence why the bolts dispersed so quickly.
"Originally" they were lasers. People keep saying this but no one has yet to point me to where this is discussed in episodes 1-6.
@@billjacobs521I think in ep3 the big guns on the ships have actual ammo of some kind
I think it's also super horrendous given Luke's difficulty in episode 5. At the beginning of the movie THE SON OF THE CHOSEN ONE struggles to force pull his lightsaber out of snow maybe 5 feet away from him. Non sensitive Sabine force pushes a whole dude like 30 feet into the air with no training? Shit like this is why I can use tyhe word ruin when it comes to the handling of this IP.
To be fair, Luke was just bitch slapped by a yeti beforehand. I've been knocked out, and the moments just after regaining consciousness aren't the easiest.
Well, it's obvious why Ashoka didn't tell Luke about her hunt for Thrawn or what evidence she'd already uncovered or asked him for help. Because none of those things were actually happening back when they shot that scene.
Now that I think about it, I can't really understand why Thrawn's return is important to anyone. I get why it was important in the old Expanded Universe. Because Thrawn had a trilogy where he appeared out of nowhere and nearly took back the galaxy from the New Republic in less than a year. A threat above the rest, as it were. So when Luke learned that a cult had some clones ready to go, it made sense to make stopping his return their highest priority. But in the new expanded universe he was just a philosophical general with a few smaller-scale victories and eventually lost to a *padawan.* Not exactly the galaxy-bending threat worthy of a cult.
It can be argued that Thrawn's trilogy started the Expanded Universe and renewed interest in the Star Wars universe. A geeky interest to be sure, but a welcome one. And *that* is why he's important to the Disney Star Wars creators now. Not because because of anything they've had him do in the new stuff, but because Timothy Zahn wrote an amazing character that brought money back into the franchise.
@@PebkioNomareyeah, the reason Thrawn is a significant figure is all meta. The Empire is awaiting his return for meta reasons, because in a different story, he was a memorable antagonist.
In the old canon, before Thrawn united the Imperial Remnants, the Empire was fracturing into different fiefdoms led by warlords. Thrawn united their resources, gave them unity of purpose, and brought in a bunch of extra resources besides.
In this new canon, they apparently have a sense of unity, purpose, and all the resources Thrawn will end up using. So there’s absolutely no reason they should be waiting on him, they should be actively fighting the Republic. And the Republic we’ve seen is absolutely ripe for conquest, so they would have an easy time. It’s all so poorly done.
I played SW Galaxies at launch and you're 100% spot on with how it went. I quit shortly after becoming Force Sensitive. But I loved, loved, LOVED my Doctor/Swordsman build. I know Teras-Kasi/Rifleman waa OP af, but I still loved my build. And my Tailor. So much fun just flipping mining & crafting, lol.
I’m unspeakably jealous of everyone who got to play it back when it was good!
@@TheLittlePlatoon Oh, and fun fact: the launch method for becoming a Jedi was hyped by being a big secret- and it turned out that you just had to master something like 25 professions on your character. Which, while dumb, was kind of brilliant in a way because if they TOLD us that, everyone would just grind out professions as opposed to us just choosing and playing the professions we were interested in. Hence folks like me having multiple characters- a crafter, a healer and a dps type.
Right off the bat, I love the breakdown of A New Hope in the begining. Makes me want a scene by scene breakdown of A New Hope, I'd watch the shit out of that. Had to pause to say that, on to the rest!
I dunno if I could add much there. But The Phantom Menace turns 25 next year…
@@TheLittlePlatoonI am looking forward to that video
Watching these shows is just a painstaking reminder of what we're losing out on if the Andor crew was put at the helm of all major projects.
At this point saying that Andor is the exception is sounding like a broken record but christ, the quality of that show is lightyears ahead of what we're getting with the rest of the shows. Even rewatching the Mandalorian is painful, its just so much filler and / or nothing.
@@Highweaver2 andor is just on another level, I really hope the guys who made it get more power at disney
@@Highweaver2 I Liked the first 2 seasons of Mandalorian tho but yeah
I never wanted to be a Jedi. From the time my small child self went to the cinema to see a new hope I always wanted to be Han Solo 😁
I wanted to a character wandering around Tatooine or a member of Jabba’s court.
I wanted to be a Scout trooper, speeder bikes and sniper rifles, hell yeah lmao
I just own a shady bar with questionable guests
@@alexpowers5117 💯💯💯
Wanted to be C3PO of all things. If you know everything there's no need for school.
3 seconds in and I’m already laughing my ass off:
“Episode 3 is the best episode because nothing happens”
Thanks Platoon!
I loved the original class system in the game you needed a dancer to get rid of stress and being one was lucrative then you could switch to be a fighter. It is a shame they ruined it!
Sadly my first (and brief, and only) experience with SWG came after the NGE release. Loads of planets, hardly any people left.
@TheLittlePlatoon the game defined my childhood. 5 years until the day it shut down. SWG legends is an active emulator that started with the games final update. It still sees developments and updates, running on donations with a consistent population around 2k. It's not the same, but it's nice to go back sometimes
I played for a short while since its release and before NGE. If I'm remembering correctly you could tip the musicians / dancers in the cantina? It was very interesting. Along with the player driven economy and I cannot remember what the principle benefit of not joining a faction at all were, but being able to call in stormtroopers or an AT-ST (at some point) was cool. I think the base game pre-NGE had lots of interesting concepts that have gone mostly untouched since then.
To deal with your issues with hyperspace travel, there are varying degrees of strength when it comes to hyperdrives which translate to how fast past the speed of light a ship can go. The Millennium Falcon could be considered the benchmark for comparisons, if you want, since Han says it goes "point five past lightspeed" in the hangar on Tatooine and is considered its Class. This is partly what made the Falcon famous as one of the fastest vessels in Star Wars aside from later EU ships like the Jade Shadow and the Jabitha. It isn't clarified in the movies, but some assumptions can be easily made about relative ship speeds based on manufacturer and purpose. Military vessels would logically have very strong hyperdrives to be able to respond to calls to action faster, while commercial vessels would have more middle Class hyperdrives and can be upgraded or replaced depending on the owner. One of the slowest ships in the EU was known as the Mud Sloth, a ship Luke spent some time aboard with a woman while helping her find her lost Force sect, the Fallanassi, and for clues about who is mother was. It was noted that it took days to weeks to jump between planets in the books it featured in. Disney material has less of an excuse on hyperspace jump times as, as far as I know, no mention of a hyperdrive's capability has ever been mentioned.
In short, the Expanded Universe had a frame of reference for different speeds through hyperspace for different ships, but Disney doesn't since the EU is now gone except when it's convenient. All they have is "point five past lightspeed", which could mean anything in their horribly incompetent hands.
".5 past lightspeed" sounds like he's saying "1.5x the speed of light", which would not allow you to travel between planets or stars in any survivable amount of time. If you wanted to get to a system that's 1 Lightyear away, travelling at 1.5x lightspeed would chop your journey from 1 year down to 9 months
@@TOONYBOY From the original Expanded Universe:
The superluminal speed of a hyperdrive was rated on a decreasing scale; the faster the hyperdrive, the lower the rating. These ratings were generally referred to as "Classes" and provided a quick, although often inconsistent or inaccurate, idea of a ship's hyperdrive speed. It was based on an asymptotic scale with Class 0.0 being infinite speed. In 30 BBY.
By the end of the Clone Wars most military starships were using Class 3 or Class 2. During the Galactic Civil War, military capital ships and starfighters were generally equipped with Class 1 or Class 2, industrial freighters and haulers with Class 3 or Class 4, and civilian starships with Class 5 or above. Many vessels mounted backup hyperdrives of much higher-that is, slower-class than their primary hyperdrive.
Some starships, such as the Millennium Falcon, underwent after-market modifications to achieve ratings of Class 0.5, and Dash Rendar's Outrider also had a hyperdrive Class 0.75, which was also achieved by modifications, although tampering with the generally stable technology of a hyperdrive was considered a dangerous activity.
Boba Fett's Slave I had a class 0.7 hyperdrive. Hyperdrives built by those outside the sphere of the Galactic Republic, Galactic Empire and New Republic, such as the Hapan Froond-class hyperdrive, were not classed in the standard system, as controlled comparisons were difficult to attain.
@@LordVader1094 That's all interesting, but what does ".5 past lightspeed" mean in that context?
It means EXTREMELY fast because its rated as a .5 engine when traveling past light speed (ie in hyperspace).
If he had said "it'll make one past light speed" that would be slower (but still VERY fast in comparison to lightspeed as all hyperspace travel is far far faster)
Jesus Christ ! 😂😂
Listening to the scene with Hera and Jacen is kind of painful as a parent. That kind of dismissal of your own child makes you ask do you actually love and care for your kid? Has she spent her life just crushing his dreams and his spirit with no guilt or emotion at all? I know the show sucks and all but damn have none of the people working on this ever interacted with a child before?
This is how the modern Woke audience views children and parenthood.
Omg that count Dooku impression was gold
Nice easter egg at 3:18.
I played SWG for a short-time when it came out. Becoming a Jedi was kept secret and you had to master four randomized professions, they left little hints in the game to what those professions might have been for your particular character (it was based on RNG if I remember correctly). I left before NGE. It was a very good game at that point. I remember joining a faction (Empire) and joining a faction had different pros and cons. I remember I was able to get an item or something that allowed me to call a stormtrooper. I also spent points and time in able to build a player house. Got into PVP combat with a Rebel guy in the middle of nowhere. Low on health I planted a house down and so did he. I saw the guy in a non-PVP town and he said "Howdy, neighbor!" I hear the expansions and undoing the secrets of Jedi really screwed the game. The player-based economy along with towns, cities were unique.
Last time I played, Empire faction perk was able to summon AT-ST, got in a faction based PVP war in a city and people bitched about how the AT-ST was too powerful and it got the nerf bat. Player based economy (items, resources to some extent, towns) and the initial versions of the game really lent things to a roleplaying style of play. No classes were useless, going into cantina to get healed and some buffs by other players was neat. I remember offering to give info of a guild's hidden location to a rival guild for in-game currency. Good stuff. Shame it got ruined.
Sounds a lot like the eve model but swg didnt check themselves before they wrecked themselves.
Is it weird that every-time I see Jar Jar Binks I think "what would he taste like roasted"
That little Dooku bit you did sent me! 🤣🤣 Your humor and W takes are spot on, my friend.
The videos just keep getting better which is the opposite of the show.
Really? I thought the show got significantly better over time when I was actually engaged in the story.
@@Undependable3 There was barely any story here.
@@Undependable3what story?
@@Undependable3 then you accidentally clicked on a different show. The dead give away was you were watching something with a story....
@Undependable3
lol. You must have watched something else because it got worse. It all boiled down to basically Ahssoka’s entire quest meant nothing because they didn’t stop the bad guy and were barely an inconvenience. Sabine and Ahssoka got left on a planet with no way back. The whole thing is one contrivance after another.
Yes, Mug was the best actor in that episode, and had the best range as well.
I remember the actor in his role as Wisdom on The Venture Brothers. He was great in that too.
Fun fact: Asians of various cultures believe that if the mug is too hot to hold, the tea is too hot to drink.
That a popular mmo had to die like that is really sad but the comparison is really on point
Given how the next step of Sabine’s training that we saw on screen was the same training Luke went through in Ep 4 which was literally his 1st steps of Jedi training, I can’t help think that Rey received more training from Luke than any off screen training Sabine had from Ashoka before the series.
3:19 You didn't sneak that past me!
Slight correction: In Star Wars Galaxy, it was originally impossible to be a Jedi. It simply wasn't a class one could get. It was eventually added, though it was never clarified how to become a Jedi and the community had to work together to discover it, and it was knowledge among the devoted players, many of whom did not share it for the benefit of being one of the 'only' Jedi.
I recommend 'Death of a Game: Star Wars Galaxy' for a bit more depth about it.
"I agree. Fuck off." is gonna be my new favourite line.
Short, effective, versatile. Perfect.
That whole sequence about powered/unpowered objects and Elsbeth's ring had me crying with laughter. Got me some very strange looks on my dog walk, I'll tell you. 😂
I think this is the first time I've ever heard someone explain Chancellor Valorum's character in a meaningful way. I usually just see people not get or understand him and then just wish Terrance Stamp was utilized in Episode 1 more. Which I agree with that last part because Stamp is awesome.
The old version of the Force didn't rely on bloodlines either. As far as I know, the jedi weren't even allowed to marry or have children, how the heck would it be reliant on bloodlines??? It was like in Ratatouille: "Not everyone can become a jedi, but a jedi can come from anywhere." This obsessive need to make absolutelly everyone capable of everything needs to stop.
Exactly. It's why TLJ's "Everyone can have the Force, you don't need a special bloodline" was so funny to me.
Because, YEAH, I know! Jedi weren't allowed to marry! Neither Yoda, nor Windu nor Obi-Wan came from some super special bloodline.
Well, in the EU, Jedi were forbidden from having attachments but were not forbidden from having kids. The old Jedi knew all to well that Froce sensitivity was an inheritable trait. So a jedi could have a "friend with benefits" minus the friend part. Any child born of the union that showed potential would be taken into the Order and trained. The rest of the kids were left with their normie parent or given up for adoption of both parents were Jedi.
This lead to a rather hilarious character in SW:TOR. The head of hte Order in the game, Satele Shan, hooks up with this Commando she is seen fighting with in the promo cinematics. Their kid wasn't Force sensitive, so he grew up and joined the Republic as an operative...
And OH BOY did Theron have mommy issues out the wazoo. The game did not in any way, shape, or form shy away from the psychological damage having a "proper" Jedi parent would inflict upon their kids. He had a massive chip on his shoulder and deep insecurity issues.
Although that was all thousands of years before the movies. The practice had liked stopped entirely by them because of how... messy... it was. Jedi would be tempted to fall/leave the Order and the non-sensitive parts of the family would be extremely upset over the distant parent/partner.
Honorable mention to Jolee Bendo from KOTOR 1. He became a Grey Jedi (left the Order/doesn't follow the Council) because he fell in love and started a family. He asserted that love isn't wrong and can strengthen a Jedi. Here is the quote:
“Love doesn’t lead to the dark side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled...but passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love... that’s what they should teach you to beware. But love itself will save you, not condemn you.”
And going even deeper into the Deep Lore shows a time before the Council was even a thing and Jedi were free to have families. A powerful Sith engineered a massive Force Spell that left a massive ripple through the Force hit all the Jedi in the galaxy, tempting/confusing many to the Dark Side. In the aftermath of this attack, the Jedi as a whole grew ironically fearful and began impossing draconian methods to "protect" their Order from "Corruption." This is where the rules about only taking in young children, forbidding attachments, and strict adherence ot the Council and their teachings were enforced. Those that thought the Council were overreaching their authority or pointed out the deep flaws in their practices became the first Grey Jedi.
That said... no, the series was never overly concerned with bloodlines either. The OT did follow a father/son dynamic, but the focus was much more on the story of overcoming generational trauma than the whole "space wizard dynasty" aspect. Just look at Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Ol' Creamy Sheev: none of them were apart of the Skywalker Dynasty nor any other known bloodlines. They simply were Force Users presumably sprouting up from any random family. Which is more or less tacitly confirmed within the Prequels. That huge Jedi Temple didn't deny Anakin because he was some dirty mongrel slave from an unimportant backwater: he was denied largely for being too old. And while some of the Jedi came from rich families, like "Count" Dooku, there was never an emphasis on dynasties and bloodlines. It was tacitly understood, by people with functioning brains, that a Jedi could be anyone from any family. While Force sensitivity was more likely to arise in certain bloodlines, it was never a hard requirement or even the norm. Most Jedi just arose from the faceless masses...
Especially since the Jedi regularly shot themselves in the foot by largely forbidding Jedi, known carriers of the rare gene, from having kids. They were effectively placing a negative selection pressure against their own kind by taking most of their prime breeding stock out of the game. Which could have created an interesting parallel to explore within the Sith Empire. Of the EU, that is. The Sith were obsessed with bloodlines and could even have participated in state-sponsored breeding programs or otherwise heavily encouraged Sith to "go forth and multiply." This would, on theory, give themselves more numbers than the Jedi... except for their brutal training methods and cutthroat politics internally culls most of their potential members. Thus, rough parity would be achieved due to different methods reflecting the unique philosophies/world views of both factions... with deliberate emphasis on how horribly flawed both sides approached families. Jedi just never had kids because "attachments bad" and even lose members who chose family over the Order. Sith would have tons of kids only to see the families tear each other and themselves apart. Only the strong and cunning survive, so fellow students would murder each other, brothers would plot against one another, and children would usurp their parents. Effectively culling their greater numerical advantage while also effectively killing any hope of true cooperation between Sith.
@@duncanlutz3698 Though I don't think those old Sith Bloodlines were particularly strong.
There were certainly some very powerful, old Sith, but the idea of "let's breed strong Sith to create even stronger Sith" that didn't quite work out.
But their "Only the strong survive" mindset might have also been part of the problem.
@@johannesseyfried7933 I never said "breed better Sith."
I was suggesting they simply breed MORE Sith. The genetic factor is rare, but it most definitely is genetic.
So why wouldn't a militarist empire that sees their Force users as living weapons want more of them?
In TOR period, the Sith Empire mandated all Force sensitives MUST be sent to the Academy for training. Anyone found knowingly harboring or hiding said Force Sensitive from the authorities would be summarily executed.
I don't remember anything about Sith Lords/Ladies being encouraged to have children... but that might have been something the authors were deliberately trying to avoid due to... reasons. Especially the "Sith Lord and his harem of pregnant slave girls" one.
@@duncanlutz3698 You're probably right. I first thought about how elitist the old sith were, but then again.....by the time of the Sith Inquisitor they even let slaves into the Academy on Korriban because they were short on Sith.
I notice a zipper on Hera's pants. George Lucas was very careful to not have any visible fasteners on his movies. Or glasses.
Star Wars: Galaxies was so good. By not having a combat class and a profession but just different jobs you could learn and making every player depend on everyone else so that every role was sought after by guilds whether a player was good at combat or not. I was on the servers when the first player became a jedi and for a long while even after holocrons started dropping they were so rare and encouraged to be so secretive.(Because in addition to the bounty system if they drew their lightsaber they also had permadeath when no one else did.) seeing one draw their saber as part of a rebel wedding ceremony was genuinely quite incredible.
I haven't played any game since that capture the sense of community that Galaxies did. It's a fucking crime what they did to that game. (It's also a crime that none of the server emulation projects have managed to get the game in the post Jump to Lightspeed pre-NGE pre-CU state I most want to play in.
Thanks for discussing the turbo lasers. They drive me crazy, and I know they were in the prequels, but this is another level with them in space. The only thing you didn't mention is the fact they would need to have an oxygen source, or oxygenated fuel to cause an explosion giving off fire and smoke in a vacuum.
Tibanna is what they fire if I remember correctly
I think this is elaborated on in Thrawn Treason and I think alliances
Sorry if you already knew this
I tend to give a pass for explosions upon impacting a target even in instances where it wouldn't happen because it's more visually interesting and adds visual weight to what would normally just be holes/tears appearing on a surface. Even a large, lingering explosion when a vessel detonates in space is somewhat excusable for the same reason.
But lasers detonating around a target as some kind of flak-style weapon? No amount of leeway makes that make sense.
It's chips...
Someone actually made that excuse... I don't think he knew what chips are meant for... He thought they programmed in smoke into it... Jesus christ, I need to find that comment and copy and paste it... You might think I'm lying or I was trolled and I can't be that stupid to remember...
@@ForeverLaxxyou can excuse long lasting explosions because a huge amount of oxygen is escaping from the ships and we don't know what the shields are made of, it's when they remain on fire without shields that it strains my believability... I'm looking at you star cruiser redemption... My goodness, star cruiser redemption must have been ruin johnson's bed room wallpaper... Everything it did in that episode was just kicked up to eleven in TLJ...
@@johnnycrown5097 The oxygen would burn up almost instantly with no atmosphere unless there was a pipe or something feeding more into it (and that would likely just burst anyway). It doesn't make logical sense for an explosion that lasts, but I ignore it because otherwise the scene would be relatively dull.
Flak lasers are just dumb, though.
"Together, we can destroy the b*tch!"
F me lol that was beautiful 😂❤
The "That's not how biology works!" bit is top notch! Subscribed.
I had to eat five ash trays but if Harrison can do it, so can I.
In the Lego Star Wars games, if you create a custom character and give them a lightsaber for a weapon, they are also a jedi (or sith, with red).
*This* is probably the reasoning for modern characters gaining the force. Just give them a lightsaber and you automatically gain the skillset as well.
"i can't see, how am i supposed to fight?" word for word. just, just terrible. great vid t.l.p. 🔥
Luke did say he can't EVEN see so its slightly different lmao
true! ty@@prestigemultimediagroup6436
My favorite part of the episode was when Ahsoka force-pulled Mace Windu’s lightsaber toward her. 10/10 would recommend to a friend or coworker.
I am a HUGE fan of Assoka using the force to move a giant, purple, sex toy!!! That is one of the most reasonable things that could've happened during this show compared to 99% of everything else!!!!
I feel so bad for Hayden Christensen, Ray Stevenson, and the 2 child actors Arianna Greenblatt(Young Ashoka and Evan Whitten(Jacen Syndulla). They were the real victims of this garbage show. Anyone agree?
Definitely. They all deserved better.
@@Cmdr_Sinclair_B5IKR!
I'm ready to bet Filoni did stuff to Arianna while she was in Asoka costume. He checks all the boxes to be that kind of guy
Years later, those child actors will consider it a stain in their career... Unless they retire early, that is.
@@vee-bee-a 💯💯. They’ll probably hate it but probably also be happy they were in Star Wars
@TheLittlePlatoon, _Star Wars_ lasers have almost always acted either like flak cannons or exploded even back in the OT. Just watch the Battle of Endor and you’ll see little fireballs flashing here and there that are clearly not ships being shot down thus can only be the energy bolt popping. You even show footage from _Phantom Menace_ with the bolts that fly past the Naboo craft exploding in raw air/space. Remember, one of the major goals of the franchise was to pay tribute to the old serials George loved to watch as well as old war flicks hence the unnecessary banking of starfighters because it evokes not functionality, but the familiar imagery of…war.
As for the ability to scan and then can’t scan but, oh wait, they can was probably because the long range was being jammed but not the short range scanners. Best theory I can come up with.
The blaster/laser discrepancy isn't really an issue of how the tech works in-universe, but more in the naming conventions used to describe them. Laser cannons and turbolasers are basically just larger and powerful versions of traditional blasters, which use some kind of superheated gas to fire projectiles that resemble lasers but aren't actually lasers. That being said, to my knowledge, they don't normally mimic traditional flak cannon bursts. Maybe the Geonosian fighters behave differently, since they were designed by weird bug men, but that's not traditionally how blasters, laser cannons, and turbolasers are depicted.
Your SWG analogy was spot on. I remember those days. I was satisfied being an Imperial simp and made my house near the Emperor's retreat on Naboo lol. Yeah, NGE ruined everything. When I quit the game, i found one of the newly unlocked Jedi and asked them to kill me lol.
I am absurdly pleased by the Assoka Series thumbnails
So glad you brought up both Star Wars: Galaxies and the crappy NGE they released. All these years later and I'm still pissed off about it. I was one of those people that was spending many hours trying to become a Padawan, and with a single patch they made it so now anyone could be one. Ugh, I stopped playing the game THAT. DAY. Also would like to mention that if you were found to be a Jedi and you were killed by a bounty hunter. THAT WAS IT. You're dead. Start over, try again. That game was amazing.
The entire game was a bit complicated and people were figuring out the economy. I was gearing towards being a bounty hunter aligned with the Empire to kill Jedi but I hadda give it up due to IRL stuff. Seems like I dodged a bullet. I think my uncle was hanging on to it and I vaguely remember him cussing about "that damned patch, damned SOE!"
Mon Mothma is suddenly an idiot in this show because Dave didn't watch Andor. He thought it was too boring.
💯💯. Pretty much.
The fact that Twi'lek hybrids don't look like that in the Clone Wars is odd seeing as the same fake cowboy had his fist up the ass of both.
Clone Wars show was average but decent at best.
@@chasehedges6775 Looking back at it, I agree. Would still argue that the show has a few gems that I would consider above decent.
lucas confirmed that normal ship can cross the star wars galaxy in less than a day
Kudos to Bag Face for his excellent choices;) Excellent work as always Lord
Thank you very much!
The Star Wars Galaxies reference was spot on. I spent many, many, hours playing that game and back then (2003) no one really knew how you could become Jedi, some speculated you needed to master certain classes and complete specific missions, but you were not sure. So you just worked on mastering the classes you enjoyed playing and soon forgot about the Jedi because the game was just so much fun. There was such variety in the player base. I was a Carbineer, and on the side a Shipwright who built and sold starship chassis from my own store on Corellia. I was also an occasional Rebel Pilot and Soldier. Yeah, don’t forget to take leave from the military when going solo, if not, you could be attacked anywhere. Never failed when visiting the Mos Eisley cantina on a Friday night and the place would be packed, a PVP would breakout because someone forgot to take leave.
Got sidetracked, but the point is the game thrived without the Jedi. You had every play style you could imagine, and not just action/combat. Entertainers, Artisians, Merchants, you could be a politician…lol. It had its own player based economy. You could play for a year before getting the visit from the old man to begin your force sensitive training, and it was such a reward. You knew on the rare occasion you came across a Jedi, that player had put in alot of effort and time to achieve, it was quite the accomplishment. Then they decided, let’s just make you a Jedi from the start. Shortly after the Merchants, Entertainers, Politicians, Engineers slowly begin to disappear. I was still building starship chassis and making tons of credits because there were so few shipwrights left.
In its heyday, you would visit Mos Eisley on a Friday night, and there were so many players, it was all your 56k modem could handle to render a screen. I upgraded to DSL just for the game. A couple of years after the “Everybody Can Be Jedi”, it was a ghost town. The memories.
R.I.P Tre-Bin Lightstar, the best Carbineer, Ranger, Shipwright, Pilot and Rebel Scum Soldier on Ahazi.
Great video.
Turbo laser is a misnomer in Star Wars the same way lightspeed is. While jump into lightspeed actually means "jump into hyperspace", which provides speeds much higher than the speed of light, turbo laser actually refers to "blasts of plasma", the same type that are used in the handheld blasters.
So solid arguments Lil' Platoon....when everyone is special, no one is....and the game dies.
💯💯💯. THIS
The funny thing is, I could perhaps forgive the idea that anyone can use the Force, if done properly. Ahsoka basically says "It's really, really hard to learn to use the Force for those with the gift for it, and so it's going to be really, really, REALLY damn hard for you." So if Sabine became obsessed with training, spending every free moment on it, for like 2 whole seasons, and eventually manages to start using it, I could swallow it to some degree. But nah, Asohka was wrong; not only do you not need the gift, but you don't even have to work very hard at it. The obvious conclusion at this point is that using the Force is pretty easy...if you have a vagina. Pretty sure Rose is going to be a Jedi if they make another movie.
Ah man, it's a bit too late for me to catch the premiere, but I will happily listen to it tomorrow on my way to work. I may crash due to laughing though... oh well, I always said that I want to die happy.
Listen to it now, I'm late to work but what can you do.
The "lasers can't be used as flak cannons" problem has been solved in sci-fi series like Perry Rhodan decades ago. Besides lasers, the writers introduced projection cannons. These cannons project (it has never been explained how that works precisely) explosives over great distance and work as both flak cannons and main guns, depending on the size of the cannons.
Even still, Star Wars doesn't seem to understand how FlaK works. That being it doesn't need to hit you, it just have to go off near you.
It's why flak jackets existed for bomber crews, to reduce crew death by the shrapnel that peirce through the thin skin of the bomber.
In a space environment, FlaK actually be useless in achieving that same destruction against most smaller ships bigger than a fighter due to the design needing to be space worthy in the first place, aside from damaging exposed important systems like the engine.
@@strategicperson95 Flak can be very useful in a space environment, as it punches holes in the hulls and therefore causes the ships to decompress. Punch enough small holes or one really big hole in the hull and you get explosive decompression that causes possible structural failure to the degree that the integrity of the hull can no longer be sustained and the ship starts breaking apart.
It could be a physical interaction ... but, it wouldn't be lasers.
Flak against an invisible "energy" dome/sphere is ... contrived. Anything longer than a few seconds, the audience doesn't understand the risk or danger, nor do they think the enemy is a threat, or the situation has risks. They can't even trip over and fall on the ground.
There is an in-universe explanation that the Blasters are equivalent of a phased plasma gas or PPG rounds, i.e. superheated gas that is magnetically energised and propels itself out of the barrel to "Melt" the other person's flesh/armour. But, you'd have to also use Turbo-Blaster or Turbo-Cannon for the austerity / Anachronism to hold. The problem sort of comes along because the Lightsaber doesn't make sense, and weapons don't have recoil in star wars, until the Clone Wars/Prequels came along. And, the lasers tend to "explode" into fireworks or burn marks, while a standard laser is a beam that switches on and off. it attaches to the destination once projected. it can also disperse or scatter.
Very little of Star Wars carries an immediate sense of danger if you don't reduce it down, or make it seem 'realistic' i.e. by making the weapons look like conventional weapons, sic. But that has the problem that you also can't make the danger too alien or too stupid. The audience isn't going to understand the colors or the size/shape/speed unless it's given context.
Blasters are conventionally slow compared to a bullet. They're almost the speed of an arrow bolt. Good for visual language, bad for threat / sense of danger. Visually, Blasters are quite slow, about 20x slower than a bullet, but it's more likely designed to cause injury to metal and energy-ablative materials via heat/plasma. This also make it nearly recoil-less.
But, it's all to serve the continuity of having White Armor that looks like plastic. And, to have 'bullets' you can see on screen against a black background or white background. Bigger Blasters = Bigger Explosions = Bigger Danger.
If you remove the explosion, blasters don't have that same danger or reaction. That anachronism is important. It's why you don't see many horses in space, or toothbrushes, conversely, because it has to maintain the element of fantasy, but also the sense of reality. Hence why Jedi always wear desert robes, because Obi-Wan was wearing robes. If he was wearing flip-flops/thongs with socks, all Jedi would be.
That anachronism or 'understanding' based on convention, is a double-edged sword.
The world-building and VFX problem of Sci-Fi is that you're visually showing danger, instead of using literature in which the audience can infer subtext or knowledge, or have it 'imparted' to the audience who might not have the sense of threat / risk of how much damage and risk there is. It's also why we don't often compare bullets by their MJ energy output or kinetic energy level unless the audience has a metric/comparison from one kind of danger to another.
Damage has to mean something. The Visuals also have to be anachronistic to "Danger".
VFX teams are important for this level of Threat/Danger/Damage, especially because audiovisual language teaches the audience to have some suspension of disbelief, but also to care about the situation. They need an analogue or an anachronism to turn lasers into bullets.
Blasters on the small scale have a 'travel' speed, which gives the distinctive visual streak.
The problem with doing the same thing in space, is that space tends to be a lot bigger than a corridor. The impact / projection has to be Bigger.
If you nerf the Bad Guy so your hero can walk into laser fire, if you get stabbed and it doesn't matter, you lower the stakes and the audience loses cohesion. You lose verisimilitude.
Gravity in space, can also risk this suspension of disbelief, because gravity in space is hard to show. If someone jumps in space, they won't "land". they'll clamp. And you'd need to "hear" the clamping, despite the silence, so people have an association.
You remove the danger, and you remove the conflict. It seems awesome for the fantasy, but if your hero is able to survive lethal attacks, there's no danger, and no action. it's just an effect that resembles danger, threat, suspense.
The dumbest part is that you can't nerf ship-mounted blasters to make them miss or hit, because the hits have to actually do something or they lose purpose. If you're hit by 50 arrows, but you make a single shot and kill with the same weapon, you end up coloring the reality of combat into fantasy combat i.e. Only Headshots Count, or Only The Hero Wins.
The conceptual problem is lasers don't have a lot of mass, so you don't have recoil or inertia, they won't be affected by gravity or warping of spacetime, and they wouldn't go 'off-course' either.
When a laser hits, it has to impact. If it hits an invisible shield ... and the invisible shield 'smokes' or shows debris, then there's a visual anachronism.
Once you have mass, there's a visual distortion, there's inertia, friction and impact/recoil of firing the bullets. You are no longer going pew-pew-pew, it's boom-hiss-boom-hiss-boom-hiss as there needs to be a loading and unloading time between shots. It could be a blaster, i.e. plasma bolts of some hyper-excited gas/plasma reaction... but that would have other consequences ie Plasma bolts would have mass, but also require cooling down of a mass driver or coil armature to hold the superheated plasma away from a barrel.
@@Toliman. You point out some interesting side-effects/consequences and I agree those would make the Star Wars Universe certainly much more complicated.
I think it's safe to say that George Lucas went for simplicity out of necessity, mainly because he didn't have the technical abilities that directors have now at his disposal and the financial aspect would probably have played a role as well. There are fans who argue that the whole "cowboys in space" vibe that characters like Han Solo and settlements on different worlds give off are also based on keeping things simple and as cheap as possible.
Like I said, sci-fi writers have "solved" the Flak problem on paper, but then they don't have to worry about immense cooling system for cannons that fire plasma bolts, so the "keep it simple" mantra is far less relevant in writing. And besides that: the beauty of sci-fi is that a writer can say that it's safe to assume that certain technologies will be invented in the future, so creating a warp- of FTL (Faster Than Light) or maybe even a super-cooling system for plasma cannons doesn't need to come with a technical explanation on it's working. One of the most obvious examples of this are the "compensators" that many sci-fi writers use to overcome technical problems: encounter a problem today's technology can't solve? Introduce a compensator that has solved the problem in the future.
There's a big problem with the passing of time in different places that, as it happens, basically no sci-fi shows deal with. There's no such thing. General relativity is quite clear about this. A day can pass on the ship, but there's no "the same day" anywhere else. It's kind of a hard thing to get your head around to begin with, because humans are used to all being on Earth, where your day and my day are the same. This is not true at large distances and especially high speeds.
I fear your comment will go underappreciated by the majority. You're spot on, though.
You're correct of course but this is all fantasy.
None of it could work in our actual universe with our actual physics.
It'd be even worse if relativistic lights peed were used. It'd be centuries or more to outside events.
Hyperspace at least tries to avoid the relativity aspect
That's the worst explanation of relativity I've ever heard and I thought high school physics...
Time does not stop and start because your traversing space fuckwith... your confused and thinking of time dilation and redshift..
Moving from one place to another doesnt alter the passage of time...
Alien worlds may have different timekeeping systems but time itself except in very rare instances like ftl travel or parking near a black hole is like the speed of light and pretty well constant dipshit
@@RadeFoxxy Unfortunately any FTL communication or travel inevitibly implies time travel, something else that isn't taken into account in any sci-fi with FTL. I'm allowing that one though because FTL is necessary for almost any of these space programmes, and time travel would just screw everything up. Want warning about that upcoming attack? Just FTL yourself a message into the past. Gah.
SWG was such an adventure as a RPer. I never got to max level and just became a trophy hunter and interior decorator for . And non-combat roles like that were a completely valid way to play.
Ooh another thing if Jason was the secondary protagonist. The desire to live up to a father who died a hero.
Yep!
Considering it's "Jacen Syndulla" instead of "Jacen Jarrus" does he even know who his father was? Really went full Force is Female on that one.
Luke Skywalker is so inactive in these shows we might as well rename him Mannequin Skywalker
“Maybe he’s Jake Skywalker.”
- Mark Hamill
7:17 god i love this channel. more videos please
I spent 80+ hours getting force sensitive in Galaxies. You had to go to Dathomir and it was super HARD. And if you took out your saber, everyone tried to kill you for a bounty. It was so fun. Then they overhauled it and everyone could start as a Jedi and no one was anything else. It was just full of Jedi and no more dancers builders or anyting else.
56:50
Okay wait. Pause! RIGHT THERE! Ahsoka's lightsaber cut that wing and the metal hot hot enough to glow in just that instant. If they're hot enough to do that, Sabine and Reva should have 100% died from being stabbed for multiple seconds. It would have boiled them inside at the VERY LEAST.
If anyone can be a Jedi why does the force screw with storm troopers so hard? I mean these are people with military training so if anyone can use the force via training shouldn't the storm troopers be super good warriors able to bend laser trajectories with their mind and stuff?
Maybe they keep trying, and it's why they always miss.
I will say, at around 1:00:45, when you mention them turning off Huge Wang, there was actually a precedent set in Empire Strikes Back when Han and Leia power down the Falcon and then turn off C-3PO to avoid the Star Destroyers dectection (this is when Han attached to the back of a Star Destroyer so they could "float away with the garbage")
I think they turned off C-3PO because he was being annoying. But you're right. Although that was because they were trying to blend in to space trash, not a forest.
You are absolutely correct, I wrote the comment on my lunch break and have since gone back to check. Thank you! And I do agree that it makes little sense in this context even had I been correct, being a forest rather than some space trash@@billjacobs521
Simoly put, Platoon, thank you. Thank you for putting into words these things that bothered me but was unable to breakdown and vocalize. The frustration of not being able to properly put into words that which you find horrible is frankly stifling, like being unable to take a deep breath. When you dissect these shows and movies you bring up these points and mistakes that make me say "YES! THATS IT! THATS WHATS BOTHER ME!". And there is a sense of relief when that happens. So thank you sir, for helping me to breathe deeply again. Take care
God i love this mans commentary. It lets my small brain see what its like to be big
Jacen took his mother's name. Why would he do that? Why would SHE do that?
Cue Bart Simpson singing the Bastard song.
Four words bruh. "The Force is Female".
56:53 Worth mentioning once again that this very weapon impaled a human being two episodes ago and she was completely fine after a day. What sort of devilish RNG is controlling the damage output of light sabers in Filoni Wars?
Also, Sa🅱️enis
Omg Star Wars Galaxies was GREAT before everyone could just start as a Jedi. It was SO COOL when you came across a Jedi and watching someone defeat a Jedi in a duel was SO fun. Some of the best memories I have playing MMOs growing up. I miss that game so much…
I do remember one scene in the original Thrawn trilogy where pilots had to turn off power to avoid scans.
I want to say it was a Talon Karrde and Mara Jade scene. I remember it being a really cool idea when I first read it, but I can't remember the full context for why it was necessary.
Just gotta say, i love your Sir C. Lee impression !
The whole comparison of hyperspace transit scenes makes complete sense and I agree, but a big part of it is that A New Hope had to establish everything for the first time, while Ahsoka is in a richly established universe already. That could be one of the reason why A New Hope seems so much more impressive. But you're right, they shouldn't have wasted so much time on it if it wasn't accomplishing too much. It definitely was a great opportunity to get a bit of a glimpse into their tumultuous relationship and maybe a hint as to how that happened. It'd set up something interesting and a pay off at the end would make it more satisfying and useful, while also developing both characters.
You’ve been such an terrific addition to this strange pop
Culture war, Platoon.
Excellent work
I always saw Force sensitivity with the same principle as that line from Ratatouille (and I prefer it be that way).
"Not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere."
There are bloodlines and even species more adept at the Force on average, but nevertheless every now and then great aptitude is seemingly randomly spawned on some distant rock, in the middle of mediocrity.
Pretty much exactly how I've always understood it and maintain is the only sensible way to understand it. While Force Sensitivity is explicitly genetic and heritable, a fact ranging from "the Force is strong in my family" to Miralukas as a species all having some inherent very minor amount of Force sensitivity to see without eyes, it also seems prone to popping up potentially anywhere. This seems critical to how the Jedi Order functioned and makes the "groundbreaking moral" of The Last Jedi so asinine... Jedi bloodlines/dynasties like the Skywalker Family are a wild exception, not the norm, because the very nature of the Jedi Order doesn't enable dynasties... they recruit kids as young as humanly possible, and then raise them into a life of celibacy as part of their beliefs. Functionally almost any Jedi ever must have just been randomly born into a normal family, because the only Force Sensitives that would be having kids are those that for whatever reason the Jedi didn't find or rejected, or Force Sensitives that left the Jedi or were banished from it, and even both of those together can't be a very significant number.
If "over 20,000" midichlorians is considered "off-the-charts" then it would be safe to assume the average jedi has something like, what, 2000 to 5000? Meaning that someone with a relatively poor aptitude for the force would have closer to 1000. Sabine we're led to believe has fewer than anyone huge wang has ever seen, and he's trained presumably every jedi youngling for the past 25,000 years. It is a legitimate statistical possibility that Sabine has, five midichlorians, and that fact will continue to be funny to me every time I think about it. XD Edit: According to what I can find from what I'm sure are legitimate sources, it seems the lowest midichlorian count a jedi could have before they wouldn't be considered for training was around 7000-7500. Those numbers don't add up very well when compared with my original estimates, especially since it's heavily implied if not outright confirmed at this point, that you're basically a useless sack of potatoes if you don't have a fairly high midichlorian count in the Star Wars universe, even if that count isn't enough to "feel the force flowing through you" and use it to your advantage, the force is still influencing your actions and that's why Han is good with a blaster, Rey can pilot the Millennium Falcon and so forth. Also that would mean the Star Wars universe is actually deterministic a la KotOR 2.
I don’t mean to be mean but you did pull those numbers out of your ass after 20,000. And yea u can suck at math let’s say but if you have never done math and I teach u addition then the next time we meet we are doing adding fractions of course you are going to be lost. Not defending the show in the slightest tho or trying to insult you
@@santi_super_stunts2573 He makes a reasonable point; if "20,000" is off the charts, what are "the charts" usually depicting? Clearly not just 18k or 15k, it'd have to be much lower. Sure, in theory, maybe most Jedi are "12-15", but if that's the case, I think the reaction to 20k would be less "it's off the charts" and more "your scanner is broken, master."
These comments just reminded me of the myriad of problems midichlorians create. For instance, as you point out, 20k is considered off the charts, well since midichlorians live in the blood stream does that mean you could transfer midichlorians and as such increase your count and as such your strength in the Force?
Let's say a Jedi with a count of 9k gets a blood transfusion from someone who's count was 7k does that mean the initial Jedi's count is now 16k? Does the donors count decrease? Will the midichlorians just go back to the donor to maintain the initial levels? Is it just blood in general or do specific blood types have specific midichlorian types?
God damn George really screwed up with that one.
@@thefilthyrhombus3856 If Mando season 3 is to be believed, you could isolate which cells have midichlorians in them and then transfer them to another host. You can also clone midichlorians too since there's no way The Client (holy s#*@, he actually doesn't even have a name) and Dr. Pershing pulled enough blood out of Grogu to make 12 Gideon clones that were capable of using the force in the short amount of time that they had him, especially without killing him. Why is Sidious wasting all of his time slowly taking over the galaxy? "Cloning, secrets only the Sith knew." Dude could disappear 10-20 jedi, transfer their midichlorians into him and then basically be on-par with the Mortis trio or Darth Nihilus. Damn, I just reminded myself of good Star Wars. Now I'm sad.
@agroed I hate to do this, but I'm going to make you even sadder.
So this now brings up the question: Why has no one ever thought to do this until now? If we go by the expanded lore (what is supposedly canon that isn't referenced in the films), the Sith and Jedi have existed for at least 10,000 years. I couldn't find how long cloning technology has existed in Star Wars, but seeing as we're on the verge of it now in real life, I'm gonna assume it's been there awhile.
So, in all that time, neither the Sith nor the Jedi thought to do any experimentation with the midichlorians, and cloning, etc.? That's what you're trying to sell us, Lucasfilm? Christ, it's the Holderp maneuver all over again.
This is why you can't just throw random bullshit into Star Wars. The galaxy has been around for 20,000 years. Any sort of technological development has to be explained why it hasn't existed in the previous 20k years. We give a pass to the Death Star because it's the Death Star, and it's not impossible to head canon a reason for why it wasn't invented earlier. Hell, given that nothing on the scale of the Galactic Empire had existed before and their access to resources alone is what enabled them to create the Death Star is enough.
The Death Star, however, is an exception. Disney Star Wars has now introduced hyperspace ramming, hyperspace tracking, Force cloning/midichlorian manipulation, and now extra-galactic travel. Any one of these is universe breaking, and we have all four. Ridiculous.
Without much to add that others haven't said already, I find it amusing that the word "flak" has been adopted into the English language, but seemingly without full realisation of it's origin. Flak is originally a German word - an acronym, really. It stands for Flug Abwehr Kanone, literally translated as flight repellant cannon, basically AA-guns. So to say Flak cannons is funny to me, as the cannon is already part of the word Flak.
But then again, this is often the case with translations across human history. For example, I'm not sure which one, if it was the Sahara or Gobi, but saying X Desert defeats the purpose, as their name itself is the original word for desert, so you're basically calling it a desert desert.
Languages are fun.
"So you're basically calling it Desert Desert."
*Angry indian Spiderman noises*
It's nice to see heras arms crossed BEHIND her back. Incredible arc.
Aw yeah, we get to watch Asohka and Huge Wang hide inside Morgan's ring.
One of the plots of all time.
@ 3:19 Yooooooo lmao
16:00 "Twat in a hat" hahahaha perfect
Little Platoon’s analysis is so incisive and thoughtful, one might listen on .75 speed instead of the usual 1.5 for other pop culture reviews.
Jacen Syndulla would have been a great character for the adventure, BUT Disney can't have that, because he might then be alive during the ST, and take the glory away from Kathy's Stunning and Brave and Forever characters.
Also: too much family, might lead to General Hera doing something ghastly and maternal like making a hopeless choice between her son, her friends, or her mission. Eewww. Icky.
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