Airtex Interior/Upholstery Install - Mooney
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2019
- I install new upholstery from Airtex in my 1961 Mooney M20 including seats, panels, carpet and headliner. I also install new windows and soundproofing along with a few other items. I show the install process, talk about what it cost and give an overall review.
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"Don't add things up"....Keen words in Aviation Haha Nice job friend!
You’ll make every cent back on the resale. That interior is immaculate.
That really turned out great. Replacing the windows was a good call. The new windows look so much nicer.
Wow! That project cost more than I paid for the 170 :) I'm very proud of you and how well you like to get things done. I don't know if I ever had that much patience. Yep, only an accountant would keep track of the cost. Love you son! God bless.
Obviously it would cost a lot more if you paid for someone to install it...but WOW...it looks AMAZING! Great job! You got a lot of bang for you buck.
Kudos on a job well done. Including the prices is sure to be valuable information to anybody contemplating a used airplane purchase, thank you.
Great job. The only additional suggestion would be to use the grey tinted windows. We put them in and it reduced the glare by 80%. Also blocks some of the heat.
Looks amazing, thanks for sharing. My pieces are being frabricated for my Cessna 172D as I type this. I opted for all the bits for the interior, $5,330 all-in from Airtex. I'm pretty excited about the project, and appreciate your insight.
I'm sure you will love it. I've had mine for a few years and am still really happy. It is also nice knowing if someone damages a seat in the future I can easily update just the seats without spending too much.
Great video. We were in a time crunch to fly mine to Texas for a spar repair and paid some interior guys to reinstall the interior... wasn’t cheap but had to be done while we were installing the engine. My front seats are in terrible shape, I’ll check out Airtex rather than pay $2000 a piece at the field. This $3500 project of mine is approaching 6 figures... ‘while we have this apart, we might as well upgrade that’... famous last words. I’ve put 100 hours on it since June and need to get an update video uploaded.
How sweet is that my friend. I love it. You did a great job.
Thanks for sharing and keep up the fun videos.
Have a blessed week.
Dale
Nice job, thinking of redoing my 177RG.
You might check out "Over 50 and Learning To Fly" if you have not already. I believe he is about to post some videos on installing a similar interior in his 177.
Your plane looks new now! Totally worth the investment if you're going to keep it for 10 to 20 years. I am already beginning to look at buying my first airplane and it has to be a Mooney. After I flew one and got my Complex rating I knew exactly what I wanted to buy:)
Thank you. It is hard to go wrong with a Mooney. Actually, it is pretty hard to go wrong with any plane :-)
Great job. I'm sure it adds great value to the plane and looks and feels great while you're flying.
Thank you. Yes, it makes flying much more enjoyable.
That looks great! I look forward to trying those seats one day! It's always surprising how a job becomes three or four times as big as the original plan.
I expected it to be a bigger project than expected but not that big. It would be great to see you if you make it back. I have a DRZ you can borrow :-)
AWESOME airplane love the money awesome how it turned out good job
I looked you up. We lived in Florence, Oregon before moving to Florida. John Darke
Back in the 1980s my grandparents lived in Yachats, Oregon. I have a lot of memories from that part of the coast. Don't get down there much now though. I imagine it is easier to find good flying days in Florida 🙂
Nice job !
I know nothing about planes but I can only ponder how cramp of a work area it was. It does look great. Stay safe
Mark, thanks for the great video. I've watched it several times over the past few months. Contemplating diving into a similar job on my M20C and just don't know if I have the gumption to do it. I've got a good interior guy near me, but I know if he does it, its going to be a lot more. Yours turned out great and its really tempting. Thanks for sharing.
One advantage to doing it yourself is you learn a lot about how your plane is put together. The negative is it will take longer than expected.
Mark. I think they call it a work of Love. Kinda like kids. Just got the foam (1/2) and haven’t been to the hanger yet. Will let you.
Scooter
I got a quote from airtex - was much higher for a pa28, for just seats and wall panels came to about 4400 (leather and premium panels)
Yes, I decided against leather as my plane is a 1962 without an autopilot. I found it hard to justify the added cost. I'm sure leather would be nice in the summer though.
Thanks Mark- I am going to be doing this to my plane shortly! I am going to start with the carpeting and the wall panels - seat will have to be done later... Ill let you know how it goes...
I will look forward to some videos on your experience. I need to start making flying videos again. For some reason I have been in a video making slump :-)
@@markgunnison I totally understand - some days I dont want to even see a camera... - this program really opened my eyes- I thought I could get this done in a few weekends- I will do it on stages- starting with the carpet and the panels - my headliner is all plastic so that will help- Ill start planning first!
@@Over50andLearningToFly I really recommend the soundproofing. Not just to cut down on sound but to keep mice from having a nice home.
The colors in the original were classic .
That turned out nice... It's too bad that the pictures don't show how nice it looks in person.
Nice video. Looks great. I am about to install a new interior in my Piper Cherokee. Any advice is appreciated.
Take lots of pictures as you pull things apart. Also, don't throw anything away until you are done. I had a number of times when I was not sure how something should go back together. Looking at pictures or the old parts helped. The process was easier than I expected although it also took much longer than expected. I think you will be really happy. It is also nice knowing you did it.
This was a great video! Could you tell any difference in noise before vs after with new windows and soundproofing?
I could tell a difference while on the ground but it is still fairly noisy while flying. I think a lot of noise comes through the windshield.
What color carpet and vinyl did you use? Looks nice.
Looks great! Those seats look comfy. Just curious, did the plane/engine sit idle for the entire 6 months of the install?
Yes, it just sat. It has sat in the past during medical issues. Unfortunately, I have not kept it in the air like I should.
Mark what did you use to get all the glue out? I am in the process of doing the same. And I didn’t see any extended video on the headliner install is that in another video? Thanks
I didn't video the headliner install as I was wanting to focus on the install. I tried a number of products on the old glue on my ceiling and could not find anything that worked. I could not even scrape it off. The glue on my ceiling was really thin and rock hard. I was able to remove glue around the doors and other places but not on the ceiling. I cleaned it as well as I could and just went over it. The headliner was easier to install than I thought it would be. Just take you time.
Excellent interior Mark! Do you have any prior experience in upholstery? Did you find something to make removing the “oily” film? Does it require an inspection by a A&P? Do you have an idea why the windows came larger?
I did not have prior experience aside from fixing up some old cars over the years. I used Simple Green Extreme along with some other cleaners to clean the oily film. It was not too hard to clean but it took a long time to get in all the hard to reach places. My A&P gave me recommendations during the install but he did not need to sigh anything off. He was really helpful as far as recommending products and suggesting things to replace. The windows come oversized so they can be sized to fit as each plane is a little different.
Mark did the carpet come with a hole precut for the fuel selector on the floor? And if so, was it bound or edged ?
No, I had to cut the hole. It looks better than I though it would although my hand cut hole is not too round.
Hey Mark did you replace and reinstall your one piece windshield and if so how labor intensive was that?
I did not. It was done about 20 years ago and is not in too bad shape. It does look a bit strange with a green tint on the windshield and grey on the windows but most people will not notice.
That is just fantastic . Very well done sir and good job . However , a small question . Are the materials you put back in , like seatcovers and soundproofing , fire-retardant in some way or kind ? Are they very flammable or not ? Are non-flammable materials , or at least fire-retardant ones , available on the market ? That would be interestring to know .
Everything is certified for use in an airplane. The soundproofing and interior kit came with a sheet of paper stating it was fire-retardant and certified to be installed in an airplane. As I recall even the glue came with a statement that cost an extra $15 or something. I ordered everything from aircraft suppliers to make sure I was not installing something that was not OK to be in an airplane.
Mark. I have a 65 Mooney that I am working on. Could you tell me what type of soundproofing you used and did you insulate after the sound proofing? I would like any hints that you could provide. Thanks Scooter
I installed "Super soundproof with adhesive" from Aircraft Spruce. My A&P recommended the 3/8" thickness. I think this was a good choice as it was easy to work with and light. You could probably go with the 1/2" but I would not go thicker than that and I'm happy with the 3/8" mat. I did not add any additional insulation.
Mark Gunnison did you think it helped by adding the soundproofing? Thanks
I have really strange question for you. I own the exact same plane. The door latches at the top when you close it. The small vertical bar that the door latches too has become damaged on my plane. When you removed the headliner in your plane did you have access to that vertical bar? I cannot think of any other way to access it but I am hesitant to cut into my headline not know if it is worth it.
I know what you are talking about but I can't remember. I just looked through all the pictures I took during the teardown but unfortunately I didn't catch any of the latch. Off hand I can't remember how that part of the headliner is held on. However, I did just recently pull back part of my headliner on the pilot's side to install a new GPS antenna. It was not bad pulling it back and reinstalling it. I'm not sure about the passenger side though. I would start by pulling the trim piece near the windshield with the little screws as it is easy to remove and reinstall.
Hi Mark,
Nice job ! How big is the difference if any with the soundproofing stuff that you fitted ? I'm thinking of doing this to my T207 beast but I'm concerned that this would only add weight with little to no improvement in smoothness/quietness/cosyness.
It made a difference but not a huge difference. I think a lot of sound comes through the windows. I also had plywood panels with insulation as part of my old interior that may have blocked a fair amount of noise. The soundproofing is really light. I ordered "SUPER SOUNDPROOFING 3/8" W/ ADHESIVE" on the advice of my A&P from Aircraft Spruce. I didn't weigh it but I doubt it was over 20lbs. I would guess I pulled out around 10lbs of insulation. Your interior is much larger than mine though.
@@markgunnison Hi Mark, thank you for your feedback, I think I'll leave it this way then. Anyway, the best bang for the buck for soundproofing is still bose ANR headsets, they go from very noisy to silence with a single button. The sound of the prop is reduced to just a home fan an you can still hear people talking since it only blocks linear sounds. I think the major problem with our metal aircraft is that they react like a guitar : any vibration produces a note. Eliminating some of them by tightening some screws, adding some rubber at some vibrating places, and balancing the prop to the engine should do better than their so-called super soundproofing. Plus it would cost way less in my honest opinion.
Your aircraft looks way better than mine at the moment, I'll start soon the refurbishing process on my seats.
@@ChristophedePetiville The soundproofing did deaden sound some and got rid of the vibration sound. There is just a lot of sound also coming through the windows. It made a huge difference while on the ground in the plane just not as much wile flying. I agree, ANR headsets help more than anything else. Good luck. I'm sure you will be happy when you are done.
What backing material replaced the old wood paneling?
The recovered panels come on a stiff plastic backing.
What type of material did you buy for the seats?
I got the vinyl. I don't think my plane is worth spending extra on leather although it is not that much more. I would have preferred cloth but my wife really wanted vinyl. I like the vinyl more than I thought I would. I think the cloth will ware better though.
I wonder if this affected the weight and balance? Did you have to fill out any FAA forms? I'm sorry I didn't watch the entire video if you mentioned that.
I think it did effect my W&B some but not much. My mechanic recommends weighing the plane to get a new W&B. It has never been reweighed so it was probably off before the new interior. I did not need to file anything with the FAA. I do have a lot of paperwork that will go into the plane's logbook.
What sound proofing did you use?
It was from Aircraft Spruce: 09-00443 SUPER SOUNDPROOFING 3/8" W/ ADHESIVE
"The rule in aviation is, don't add things up", should be, don't let your wife add things up.
But she was the one who wanted the extra stuff:) Blame the woman!
Yikes !!! beautiful but .... yikes $$$