'Elemental' is kinda bad (Review)
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what’s your favorite element…
The element of surprise gotta be mine
Green
ELEMENT OF SUPRISE!!!! 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Water
Titanium
I’m just tired of the “I’m disappointing my family” plot
💯💯👍👍👍. I’m tired of generic and cliched storytelling
Hits too close to home?
@@aaronahlfeldt2916 Yeah, I'm your mom and I'm very disappointed in you :😇
But that’s what family orientated animated movies thrive on… That and reboots/live action remakes/sequels/prequel
@@jalap7676 you sound just like her
Pixar has slowly gotten worse and worse, and I genuinely feel its because Disney wants them to force out a new movie as quickly as possible. they dont care about the quality, they care about the cash. its just so sad to see a great company go downhill like this.
It’s depressing to see Pixar fall so hard and so low.
They were doing so well before in the past, minus a few hiccups here and there, and even recently with newer stuff like Luca, Soul and Onward but they’ve definitely hit a new low point nowadays.
I wonder if Pixar goes independent without Disney, maybe that’ll make their moves feel like their golden age.
@@DinoTanky95 Maybe that’ll work but even that’s uncertain/unclear at this point
@@chasehedges6775 yeah I agree. Pixar will probably never be the same ever since their golden age.
It’s so sad to see such a once original studio be forced to become more and more like it’s parent company to the point where you can barely tell them apart.
Pixar should have said no and stayed independent. Instead, they sold out to the mouse. Sad.
Pixar was the first company to produce a 3d movie and now people are treating it like trash 😢
It's sad because Disney wanted Pixar to make sequels to all their movies and Pixar said no. Pixar was going to split away from Disney when their contract ended, except Disney held the rights to most of the films, so Disney would have taken over the production and done the sequels anyway. So Pixar begrudgingly did those sequels because they'd rather at least try to do a good job then let Disney create something soulless, and here we are.
Pixar is trapped in an unhappy marriage with Disney because they don't want Disney to take full custody of the kids.
@@kookiekommentertecnically disney won cuz pixar relased bad sequels of their classics
@@arturocastroverde3349 they really did, and made a lot of money from the merch sales too :(
the best thing about elemental was the art design and creative direction. it almost felt as if they completely finished all the art for the movie and then went “wait we forgot to write a story with compelling characters” and then wrote a story for the art
Exactly
Honestly I would even say the concept art is much more compelling than what we got in the film. The character designs in early development had more variety, fire people had different flame colors, cloud people had different shapes and heights, they even had fun concepts of what mixing element couples and children would look like.
@@juliabratton1768 Soooo interesting and intriguing yet the movie is absolutely none of that
@@juliabratton1768That’s the equivalent of saying that the trailer was cooler than the actual movie…which is often the case as I’ve unfortunately discovered.
And who was the villain?
Disney has been positioning Pixar to be the “Look what our tech can do” animation studio for them compared to their “safer” titles. Despite these newer movies looking great, they definitely FEEL more like Disney catalogue filler than actual films.
Sadly accurate
Exactly how I felt with Frozen 2
"Look what our tech can do"
And yet, art design trumps tech every time.
@@FlyingFocs 💯
spot on
I fell like Elemental would've been much better as a short film. Like if this was the short film before the actual movie I was prepared to watch, it would be much more enjoyable
Id counter, I think it would do wonders with a more episodic structure. Have some episodes focusing on the migrant theme and some episodes on the romance theme, have some light hearted show offy episodes like the crystal scene and more serious and down to earth ones like Ember and her father making the sign for the Fireplace.
I definitely agree! many times throughout the movie I felt that someone could clip any 10 minute section and release it as a short film.
"what if [INSERT RANDOM WORD HERE] was Los Angeles?" -Every disney movie in the last 10 years
Holy crap, this is the problem. Thanks for putting it into words
@@QuestionsIAskMyself id say its A problem but not THE problem.
What if Lactosy decato was Los Angeles
If they just replace Los Angeles with Detroit I think they could finally make a banger movie. Better a decade late than never
Every film to ever take place in a city, ever... gasp! Let's be unique this time, we'll use New York... or, gasp!... Chicago... because that's totally unique and different 😁
Honestly I wasn’t excited for this movie at first, but when it came out I decided to give it a shot, and I actually thought it was very sweet and fun, and I actually kind of love this movie.
I was willing to give it a chance despite what was being said and my original thoughts. I'm super glad I did, it was overall a pretty good movie in my opinion. Yes, it's predictable, but stories often are if you know the tropes and basic plot structure formulas (especially if you know the specific pixar formula) so imo its less about tropes and more about how they're executed. I'd say this movie does a great job of that. Every single thing they set up paid off in the end, even things that you'd never have guessed. The character dynamics were really cool and super cute, and I think the message of learning what you want matters is super important for people to learn as I'm sure plenty of people like myself feel like Ember who believe that it doesnt
Yeah I’m glad too I gave it a shot, and honestly I don’t understand all the hate. I loved the characters and I think now it’s one of my favourites Pixar movies😂
same, the immigrant storyline really hit close to home for me.
I totaly agree with you
Me too, I love it I don't get the hate. The art is truly amazing and awesome. It's so beautiful! I also think it gives a good messenge
The marketing for this movie felt like actual sabotage
I'm the odd one out. I really liked this story & the character designs. Wade being a tight-wad about the tickets, makes sense to me, it shows that love can work between people of different backgrounds but doesn't magically fix structural-racism. Wade is from a privlaged race/class, while Ember is from a disenfranchised group. The fact Wade, although with pure intentions, didn't just magically understand her or her peoples plight, like her father having "not to code" piping, is becasue the city never was truly built for Fire-people in the first place--- unlike the other Elements. That adds depth to this film to me. Wade from the jump is interested in Ember, but that doesn't mean he's gonna be able to understand her or her people's history at all, or not quickly at least. Side note: Wade said he tasted gasoline or motor-oil in the areas where the damn was leaking. Was someone breaking the damn on purpose, trying to destroy the Fire community, a hate-crime? And this movie works well, if like Zootopia you understand, that these worlds/characters aren't any one-on-one representations of any specific real-world marginalized groups. Cool original movie. It deserves much better.
Me and my younger sisters liked it as well
Me too and I loved Wade's character. I love the part where he says "I don't understand" for some reason. I relate to Ember too!
I don't watch a lot of Disney movies but I this movie really resonated with me and made me feel some emotions! I like this movie too!
this movie ws fire to b absolutely honest. loved it and it made me feel a feeling ive never felt ab a movie
Surprised you didn’t mention the immigrant theme and aspects of it considering it’s huge to the story
Agreed. It adds so much nuance to the movie and I think improves it a lot. I think that's important to acknowledge, even if not everyone can relate to it
it is a good story, and it presents well when you take away the element lens of it and see it as an actual minority family, however my issue is that it is a race allegory of a fictional world instead of it just being in a world actually more similar to ours that actually has races or something of the like, not actual “elements” that will physically have differences with each other and can harm each other simply by being in contact with one another. as i said before, the story itself was perfect and admirable, just the comedy of where that story is. is it really so wrong to refuse someone made of fire from coming into a shop knowing that if they bump into something, your products will burn up?
the context* sorry. autocorrect
More so the romance angle
Really makes the review feel one sided. Wonder if he even saw the movie.
Pixar hasn’t been on their prime in a very long time. Their last best movie is Soul. They’ve been loosing a lot of their magic lately
Soul is such an underrated film, I wish more people talked about it
I also enjoyed Luca! But other people have different opinions on this
Onward, Luca and Soul were the last good Pixar films
wdym Luca and Turning red were both great?
@@razvanradoiuLuca? yes, that was a good film
Turning Red? Meh. Average at best.
The way I see it, it's Disney prioritizing familiarity as a brand above all else - Easy to recognize, easy to sell. Not only in Pixar, but MCU feels like just a shell of itself. Stories and characters reduced to tropes and clichés. Even Disney itself are doing it; going with their live-action remakes.
Honestly, I'm supporting this just for the fact that Joe Pera is in this movie. We need Joe Pera to be in more things because he is Mr. Rogers for grownups and I love him so much.
Joe Pera hearing “Baba O’Riley” for the first time is the greatest moment in human history.
@@birthdaybatter815 Indeed it is.
I was going to say that! Joe Pera is a national treasure.
Wait WHAT. Joe Pera is in a Pixar film??? Who does he play??
@@TheCheesecakeWonder He plays the old fern dude.
The worldbuilding is kind of bad in my opinion. they have Cars, trains, and ships in a city of LIVING ELEMENTS. Who made the metal? What about the sidewalk, or the atmosphere, or the water???
It's not like Avatar the Last Airbender, where the culture and city design were specifically shaped around the use of bending. Here, it feels like a human civilization but the humans were suddenly replaced with talking elements.
@@Clowningaround326they mean the story is an allegory for Asian immigration in the US and the anti-Asian racism they face
Nah you make a good point. Why are all of the elements functioning in the same way in the world. Why doesnt each element have their own mode of transportation? Like water could have an intricate pipe system or something while air has, well, airways and stuff. Why do they wear clothes the same? Or even walk the same? It feels like the creators were like "what if they were ELEMENTS??" but didn't actually think of the smaller details to set the different elements apart other than "orange, blue, brown/green, and white"
Basically the vibe Cars has
@@tiamystic Do bear in mind that I don't actually hate this movie. I've seen several scenes with Ember and Wade. They're really sweet and a lot of scenes really showed the mastery over computer animation that Pixar has.
I've kind of softened up to this movie when I heard that it was a passion project from the director and how he was honoring his parents by making this movie. I felt a bit guilty for being too harsh on the movie for its world-building after hearing this.
@@ChelCM03Let’s be real: female elements without clothes would just look WRONG on so many levels.
remember that Simpsons joke about Dreamworks "Cards"? they predicted this movie like 20 years earlier
Elemental wasn’t a bad movie and I could understand why people would enjoy it and why others wouldn’t. Too bad it was advertised poorly and a lot of people judge it at first value because if this was released around years ago before the pandemic started it would have much more well received critically and financially.
The movie was ok. But yes, coming out RIGHT AFTER SPIDERVERSE made me think, "I coulda watched Spiderverse another time". Which is never good for a movie
Wade is a bit jarring for me cuz he is kinda sh*tty/negligent or inept and the movie wants us to like him as if he doesn't do annoying things that trouble the mc. I definitely loved Ember and Firetown a lot more. Maybe a story staying there woulda been more fun?
Nah, the whole point was that she misunderstood her father's dream. She didn't want that shop and im glad she didn't stay with it
@@teddybear2teddy I didn't mean staying at the shop. I just meant if the movie was set solely or more in Firetown
How could you hate Wade, even with Ember's Burst he stayed with her. And the encouragement of Lutz in that game, can anyone just do that to connect to people. I find Wade and his personality admirable. He even respects Ember's space (Cuz u know fire and water shouldn't be near but irl people should respect each other's spaces lol). Anyway I do wonder what Wade did that made a bad impression on you?
@@mr.slimeyt mayhaps I was a bit brash in my description of Wade/his actions as sh*tty/inept. However, I find him reporting the building despite her explaining how important it was; and him never calling to verify the construction crew til almost last minute was negligent and unlikable.
I didn't see the movie but it always felt so aggressively mid from the marketing like.
"What if typical cliche romcom romance . . . . BUT FIRE AND WATER???"
Like . . . it's the type of thing you would think is a parody of Pixar, not the genuine article.
It's a good movie. You should check it out and make up your mind about the actual finished product.
@@anthonymartensen3164this comment isn't about the movie, it's about the marketing
@@morganicsmoothie964 yeah but the people making others feel like the movies bad, it's very disturbing. 😞
There’s a line in the trailer where Ember says “I’ve never left Fire Town before 🥺” and okay, first one all, Fire Town is such a boring name, and second, I feel like I’ve heard “I’ve never left ____ before” in a billion different movies and shows
@morganicsmoothie964 yes. And I would recommend the actual movie, regardless of how poor the marketing may have been.
I get that most of us aren't even the target audience, but like... come on. I'd be lying if I said this movie wasn't going to flop, especially since it's so predictable. The plot structure and character development is so obvious you don't even have to watch the first half of the trailer to figure it out.
💯💯
Good point? 😅
Lmao, fair enough, BUT PLEASE, PLEASE don’t tell me in spite of spouting your nonsense that you are one of the mindless sheep praising Spider-Man ATSV?!
I still scratch my head why people panned Elemental for the story and being woke, but give ATSV a free pass?
Spider-Man is propped up by human sacrifice in every f*ckin dimension? Lore wise it makes no sense because of the existence of Spider-Man in itself is far more complex than what they portrayed in ATSV. They essentially dumbed down the lore for the sake of what exactly? And people had the nerve to call Elemental cliche and unstructured?
Honestly what a way to take the power through responsibility trope and turning this into an utter mess.
Don’t get me started on how a rookie like Miles outsmarted thousands of so called “genius” spider men/women with years and years, decades of experience during the escape.
I am ok if People didn’t like Elemental, opinions make the world go round. Call the story boring, or whatever, I don’t care. My only gripe is that people are essentially playing favorites. I hate this picking and choosing.
Also, Why the f*ck isn’t anyone crying foul about woke and hidden agendas? ATSV is full of them! Just the mere fact that this movie is primarily about a token diversification of Spider-Men/women, SURELY you must be up and arms also? Elemental is cliche? Elemental is woke? HAS an agenda? How about ATSV? 🤦♂️
I swear, I ABHOR double standards.
@@cbgg1585 bro chill
Good point about blobs being hard to get emotionally attached to. I think it's why Casper movies always anchor their stories around humans. Even Osmosis Jones came off more corporeal than Elemental's main characters.
No, I don’t think it really was a good point because it’s animation literally the whole point of it being a drawing is to be connected to the unknown to something that you don’t see every day and if you can’t get connected to a Blockedt and there’s a good chance that you shouldn’t be watching fucking cartoons. You shouldn’t be trying to watch a cartoon by yourself without any inflection other than to see if you like it or not. I feel like a lot of adults that are in the comment section I low-key hate watching it just to compare to all the old nostalgia that they used to feel.
Honestly it was a great movie especially if you can relate with the whole parent and immigration thing. Loved the animation, music etc. not sure why it did bad imo. I do recommend
I'm now just realizing that we don't see many animated rom-coms that aren't fairytale movies (Disney Animation, the Shrek franchise, etc)
I find it interesting your point about Ember being in love and how she shouldn’t be thinking about anything else. I actually really related to that scene because, as a child of immigrants, I could relate to having my family in the foreground of my thoughts even during very personal moments. A lot of issues I’ve seen people have seem to come from a place of not relating to the immigrant story, which is completely fair. And that’s on top of the dialogue, animation, and writing problems. It’s not a phenomenal movie, but there seems to be a disconnect with some viewers that I didn’t have.
I feel the same about Turning Red, so many people were just totally unable to empathize with it just because it’s about a teenage girl from a non-white American perspective. Criticisms from these people start to feel hollow when they hate it just because they can’t find a way to relate
@@nickg5341I agree very much
amazing take. i just cant tell if its ignorance or apathy from some reviews
I agree, when I talk with my friends about things like this they have the same reaction he did. Some people really just don’t get it.
Yeah, that part of the video made absolutely no sense to me. Love is not a magical thing that is going to make all of your problems go away. You can't forget your problems, and your family, just because there is a guy, or a girl, and there's a nice romantic moment. That is unrealistic, and honestly, a very futile way to see the world.
you know what else is kinda bad? the fact that you haven't watched a 1997 cult film classic "romy and michelle's high school reunion" at this point
This movie kinda just felt like Pixar had the idea of elementals coexisting and what kind of silly whacky scenarios they could make out of that, then tacked a generic wholesome message onto it
Maybe it's because I've spent the past 30+ years playing videogames, but from the very first TEASER trailer they showed, I was underwhelmed by the effects/character designs. Just so plain and boring, especially when they go for the photorealistic bits. Also: I can't believe the old meme of "How to make a Pixar movie" came true ("what if _________ had feelings")
fr, showing off your particle engine doesn't count as creative/good design
Hay this is just my opinion and anyone is allowed to disagree. I really enjoyed Elemental and it was so relatable to my mother and I. My mom cried a lot during the film because she went through a similar situation as Embers dad.
This film was really special to me. I was able to personally connect to it.
Yeah, watching it, I could see why it would fall flat for some folks, but I bawled like a baby watching it (am a US born of immigrants also working to break some generational trauma). Afterwards there was a scene my daughter just mentioned and I started to cry just while she described it.
I think it missed some marks to be a "hit" and there are some plot holes, and I wouldn't say it is my favorite or even one I enjoyed the most, but of the Pixar's it's the one that hit me in a personal way the most.
I liked the movie too, I could relate a bit to Ember's dad's story. My grandmother came from Puerto Rico to the USA. I was born in the USA and so were my parents, seeing Ember's dad leave his home country made me think about what my grandma might have went through when she left Puerto Rico. I cried kind of a lot during this movie, especially during the moments Ember had with her dad, I can relate to their daughter father relationship, it made me think of the good memories I had with my dad. I think this movie isn't for everyone, it isn't perfect but it is a fun watch, and some people might relate to it.
Well just to be clear, I really love how you proceeded to enjoy the movie, I watched it with my girlfriend. 😄
I loved it too
I really enjoyed it too !
I'm glad you give Turning Red and Luca their props as amazing films. Every other person I've seen calling Pixar bad nowadays dismisses those two as "cash grabs" when they're made with love and have incredible writing
uh who calls those cash grabs? they have nothing to do with any pre-existing property.
@@killingmewillnotbringbacky9177 yeah I don't know how anyone would call them cash grabs, that's just what I've seen floating around. I just hope more people give these movies a chance and see there's so much charm to them
A big problem with Elemental's art style is it's gotten more and more into the "beanmouth" art style we saw in Luca and Turning Red. That's why everyone looks like a blob; it's all rounded edges, noodle appendages and basic body shapes.
Also I find the worldbuilding very confusing.
How was Element City created? Only the Earth elementals are tangible, everyone else is intangible. You should not be able to grasp solid matter when you are living fire, water or air/clouds.
Why do the characters wear clothes when they have nothing to cover up? They have no skin or nerves so they should not be able to feel pain.
See? It raises too many questions the movie is not going to answer; Because it can't.
the film definitely has its flaws but “why do they wear clothes” is so nit picky, clothes add a little personality to the otherwise blobby characters, not every film needs 100 pages of lore, sometimes “because it looks better” is enough
@@matty9817 Even though the film itself shows how impractical clothing is for everyone except the Fires (who really shouldn't be able to wear clothes because they are INTANGIBLE). If the movie itself draws attention to its worldbuilding problems (like how fences are useless against Fires, Waters and Airs) then they deserve to be called out.
@@PlanetZoidstarasbestos used to be weaved into cloth for the party trick of throwing a tablecloth into fire to clean it after a meal.
@@MaximilianonMars How do the Fires weave asbestos when they are intangible? How do they hold things when they have no mass?
It's funny, because 3 years ago everyone was complaining how Pixar was too realistic and "animation doesn't have to copy reality"
I like Carl’s Date personally because it was Ed Asner’s final role. And I appreciate Bob Peterson’s intention to dedicate it to Asner.
i thought the movie was okay, but i do agree with having a slightly harder time connecting with the characters, and the balancing of the family drama + romance left the film feeling rushed and unsatisfying by the end. that scene you talk about with ember suddenly thinking about her dad is the one i go back to when i think about the pacing. it was just jarringly quick how she switched up on it, i feel like the scene of them touching just needed more time to breathe. ember getting frustrated with herself for her flaws and being a 'bad daughter' was really touching though. i dont hate generational trauma storylines!
This was actually one of my favorites. Probably cause I never watch romances, but the acting, art and story were almost perfect.
I’m getting tired of people ignoring the massive decline Pixar has been on for a LONG time. Everyone says it without even realizing it. A bad movie by Pixar will be reviewed as “not Pixar’s best work, but it looked nice” when any other studio wouldn’t get away with it. They haven’t released a great, Pixar-tier movie since Soul, which is far too long ago. They’ve been riding off their nearly perfect reputation of industry changing movies for the last 5+ years.
It’s like people just won’t talk about it because they’re so used to giving them the benefit of the doubt.
It’s crazy to say, but Pixar may actually be the worst animation studio now. Whereas other 3D animated films are mostly “meh”, Pixar is responsible for recent movies that are blatantly bad.
Crazy world we live in.
It's mostly the people that thought all the other recent Pixar movies were bad, I kinda don't like how others let Pixar down as if it was a knock off company or something
Even family guy noticed. I remember the one gag about the fiction "Sweaters" movie by pixar with the voice over saying "pixar, we used to be a hit" or some shit like that
Luca and Coco were the only good ones in 10 years.
Tbh, Soul was mid.
Crazy is to say that Turning Red and Luca are bad movies. People love these films.
@@gasterthemaster6490I’d beg to differ, I think Inside Out and even Monsters University and Finding Dory are all pretty solid movies
Pixar is now the example of “having neat looking effects won’t carry the movie alone”. They might have good Loki g animation, but is that really the best people can remark on for Disney animated movies? They’re just allowed to get away with uninteresting and cliche stories with bland and predictable characters as long as the textures look realistic and the settings are grand and huge.
They don't even have neat-looking effects or animation anymore; Spiderverse, Puss & Boots, The Bad Guys, Arcane, the upcoming TMNT movie all feature utilize exccellent direction that looks and feels unique to modern audiences.
Karsten and Schaf reviews in an hour? Word
Yeah it looked bad from the trailers. Don’t think anyone had high expectations judging from what was shown, and if they did that’s on them.
Nailed it. I knew this movie look bad since day 1
Shame, the movies actually a lot better than the shitty trailers
Looks awful, I don't know how anyone had hopes for this. Literally scratching the bottom of the barrel for movie concepts
I cannot stand people who think good movies like this are bad, you guys do not realize how hard companies like this try their best to make movies that try to bring your interest, I had enough of seeing comments like this, I just want a Pixar movie from today that cannot get hate comments like this, I mean like seriously, is that a good way to tell Pixar that they should try more and more to get a movie like this right, it's actually not, it's just bring them down
@@jareddavis3541 not sure how much Pixar is paying you but it’s never enough to meat ride that hard. I mean they should be thanking us, we’ve supported them and kept their lights on for YEARS, in doing so we have basically become investors and as such it’s our right to voice our opinions about it.
The animation for the fire people reminds me of Howl’s Moving Castle and Calcifer which is really nice
It resonated with a lot of Asian Americans. This is made for them.
Please elaborate.
@@tysoon363636 First generation Asian immigrants with their self made family owned shop, and expecting felial piety.
Elemental has seen success in my country, Korea. it has become the most viewed Pixar movie ever released in Korea
It’s found success worldwide now. It’s close to making 400 million in the box office
@@geox8485395 million and counting :]
I actually really loved the film. I still think that there's a lot of flaws that this film has, but I still ended up rating it 5 stars on letterboxd because I was able to connect with it as the child of Asian immigrants. To me, Elemental isn't about the romance between Wade and Ember. Elemental is about Ember and her relationship to her family and to her culture. The scene you thought was jarring, with Ember lashing out at Wade, had me in tears because it was almost verbatim something I shouted at a friend over ten years ago about why they'll never understand why I couldn't stand up to my parents back then. Wade and his growing relationship with Ember is just a catalyst for her to grow. He's her manic pixie dream guy. He's the catalyst for her to connect with other people and face the truths about herself that she keeps hidden away. So yeah, the blobby designs are hit or miss, the pacing may be messy, and some characters can be cut out of the film entirely and change nothing, but ultimately, Elemental is an immigrant story that really did have me being the only person crying in the theatre. It was hard to watch this film and not think about all the things my parents did and all they gave up to come over here. The way it was all handled makes me 100% confident that a rewatch would elicit the same reaction out of me. I went into the film not expecting much, then becoming pleasantly surprised, but then completely and utterly overwhelmed when I saw how much Ember’s life matched my own. While I was never expected to take over a family shop, I was expected to excel in ways I don’t think me or my parents truly anticipated. While I have never fallen in love, I was transformed by the people I met and found a voice through them the same way Ember is changed by Wade and pushed to advocate for herself
"it's got so many flaws but Imma rate it 5 stars anyway bc uhhjhh RELATABLE" you are everything wrong with modern consumers.
@@viking-astronautgod you people are so soulless. You hear someone talk about how they personally connected and were moved by the movie and have the nerve to call them the consumer.
I completely agree with what you’re saying! At first I was skeptical about the movie because the advertising was bad and I always heard about people saying they didn’t like it, but when I actually sat down to watch it it had me balling my eyes out at multiple moments in the film because I related to hard to the emotions ember was going through. Especially in the scene where she tells her father that she doesn’t want to run the shop, how she feels she couldn’t finish his dream, and when he tells her that she was his dream. That scene was so hard to watch especially since I’ve heard my father say it to me all my whole life. Embers whole situation just felt so personal to me since I’m going to college soon and I’ve felt like I have to pick a major that will let me be able to do what my parents couldn’t instead of what I’m truly passionate about. All this just made me wonder why so many people where hating on the film when it was probably one of the only movies I’ve seen hit so close to home in my life. It’s just so sad the bad rap the movie got just because some people found it hard to relate to the immigrant storyline and only focused on the animation and character design. :/
@@viking-astronaut”you enjoyed a movie targeted toward your demographic? You’re the problem with today’s society!”
You sound like an idiot. You also sound very privileged to not understand this movie.
Feels like Disney/Pixar has two modes these days:
A. What if *blank* had feelings/was racist
or
B. My parents had rules and boundaries and that is LITERALLY SYSTEMIC ABUSE
Which movies would say follow option B?
@@marsisbae pretty sure OP had Encanto and Turning Red in mind
Okay I agree with everything you said about the movie itself, but I absolutely loved the Up short. Maybe it's because I work with older adults but it legitimately made me laugh out loud and cry all within a few minutes.
Thomas Newman can do no wrong! One of the greatest film composers of our time.
I mean wade is a self insert, he can’t look bad or have flaws and understand the entire situation with an open mind 😂😂
Dude, I'm so glad you mentioned the white-on-black helvetica title cards. I'm an assistant editor and sometimes I make something like that real quick, with the assumption that the title graphics people will come up with something cool. And sometimes things get rushed and they get don't get to it, and I'm like THAT'S what we're going with? My crappy temp thing?
I thought Elemental was okay. It’s not my most favorite but it was better than I thought
Tbh, the last good Pixar movie I've ever watched was turning red
While Lightyear, it just didn't fit toy story
But Elemental brought back my joy of watching Pixar movies
I actually really enjoyed this movie, but probably because my expectations were so low. It's not the greatest movie ever, but I enjoyed myself.
However, and don't hang me for this, I didn't enjoy Past Lives. It's not that I didn't get it, it was just lacking in too many areas for me. I wanted more. I can't really see why everyone is so in love with it, even after they explained it to me.
This is well explained. I remember going to see it in cinema and the movie felt as if it had gone on for days and in my opinion, most of the movie was just random dialogue or aliens scenes. I found it hard to sit through the movie and stay still and there were a few times I got so bored I just walked outside and stared at a wall and even that was more fascinating. But that’s probably just a me problem. Overall, in my opinion, elemental wasn’t the best. And as you said, Pixar has done some good movies for the past 2-ish years and I did have fairly high expectations for elemental too but after that,I think Pixar will only go downhill from there
Nah Pixar will be ok
I gotta be honest. I really hope they decide to make some kind of Disney Channel spin off or sequel series to this. I just saw this movie, and while recent Pixar movies have been okay to me, I have not had this much love for a Pixar story since the golden years of Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc, and Finding Nemo. I'm not even joking. I truly view this movie in the same light as those movies. You'd be surprised at how much I'm a sucker for animated love stories, which are my favorite kind of animated movies, and while what they did in this movie is cliche, it felt like something you'd never expect from a Pixar film. I've never really seen them handle romance in a similar fashion as the main Disney studio does with their movies, but wow, did the romance in this movie blow me away to the point i would really love to see a continuation of the story to see they're relationship grow.
They could even set the series within the months before they even have to leave Element City, but after seeing this movie I would just love to see these characters again.
Damn... Is it bad? I thought it would be decent, i was gonna plan to be the first Pixar movie i would see at cinema in decades.
Well i was gonna see Across the Spiderverse first so whatever
Imo, I think it's great. I personally highly recommend it
I loved it, so it just depends on what you like. This is like a comfort movie for me, something to just have fun watching
@@bobbobbo5278 I think I could like it. But keep in kind that I missed a lot of Pixar classic that I have to check out (Up, Wall-E, Inside Out)
It's certainly not the best pixar movie and the plot isn't the tightest, but it was cozy and very wholesome and I really enjoyed it.
The world is very critical, nothing is perfect and we can enjoy things that might have flaws. (I would argue Zootopia is also like this)
I loved it, it's definitely a movie to watch in theaters.
Wade doing that jiggle dance with his belly for 2 seconds was by far the most entertaining thing about this movie
Water? I hardly know her.
It’s strange to me how I have a good amount of problems with elemental, but yet after I left the theatre it felt (as best as I could describe) “refreshing”. I haven’t seen a movie with this type of typical story that we’ve seen over 100 times In a while. It sound stupid as hell now that I’m typing it, but I guess that’s what I felt. I don’t know why Pixar has been making a lot of “safe” movies lately. Turing red, light year, onward, and now elemental. All of those movies felt very safe moving too make with no real “real” message that they wanted to discuss. Ill still keep supporting them so that can keep producing orignal content.
Overall I’ll rate elemental a 6/10. Still an average movie from Pixar yet again, but this one feels like there some heart behind it. Even though the story was extremely generic.
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I think this is one of the times I will wholeheartedly disagree with you.
I watched Elemental & thought this was a return to form. I love that the story was simple. The romance may not have made sense, but the turmoil Ember had felt real.
Right before watching Toy Story 4 is the last time Pixar genuinely excited. And then I turned on Toy Story 4. That’s when it started. Pixar’s transformation into a studio I could devote my entire life to, to a studio I care less about than Illuminations. I don’t even wanna see a Pixar revival at this point
Honestly, I really loved this movie. I loved the visuals, I loved the music, and I loved to story. I did feel attached to the characters and I felt the romantic connection. But, that might’ve been because I was probably the target audience.
I really related with Ember and I really felt those emotions through the movie. For others, they might not have felt that chemistry but I most certainly did.
I guess my only gripe was when Ember turned on Wade immediately- I’ve been where she was and I’d say it take a couple more reminders and feelings of guilt before running away from a relationship that you’re immensely passionate about.
I am also a little iffy with Wade’s character introduction. I’m not one to shame someone for being emotional all the time but when he came in (I didn’t watch any of the trailers before watching), I thought he was a comedic side character who cries all the time. But as the story went on, I really liked him! He was sweet and his ability to over-feel his emotions mixed well with the closed off Ember. They’re literal opposites but they complete each other.
But again, I think I really loved the movie because I saw a story similar to mine on the screen. It really touched my heart. I think the relatability of a movie like this is what makes it or breaks it. This movie isn’t for everyone and that’s okay.
Doesn’t Amber’s outfit look like the tooth fairies’ from Rise of the Guardians from dreamworks?
i feel like elemental set out pretty cool in concept Visually but it felt very slept on ? i can certainly agree the world feels lived in but it feels very basic when the characters are all. Literally elements . it just feels like it was reallyyy not taken advantage of when the world could've LOOKED really cool all things considered! also the names are so. Hm. like element city is.....interesting...... but overall i think a lot of this movie felt simplified for lack of a better word? both visually and in the worldbuilding and in other aspects
Damn i’m ngl I loved the short in the beginning. Dragged a little but by the end it got a tear out of me
Elemental came out on Disney+ yesterday and this morning I decided to watch it as I had been wanting to see it since many months ago and even though I like it, there’s still a lot of flaws
I feel like this is a rip on Studio Ghibli... The baby fire acts much like Calcifer from Howls Moving Castle and the green plant on the train acts and behaves like the giant Totoro. Maybe it's meant as a homage to Ghibli but this being corporate it feels like their stealing ideas instead.
First time I've looked up the opposite opinion for this movie and to just stop by and say everyone that agrees, is wrong. 😊
I feel like people try to diesect this movie too much. Not every movie needs to be a big masterpiece
This movie made me smile and was genuinely fun to watch and felt like it had soul. I didn’t really care much about the relationship between wade and ember but rather the relationship between the dad and ember
I'm gonna ask the same question here that I asked on another video: how do cloud elementals exist if fire and water have never mixed?
succession video?
I actually really enjoyed this movie. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with a serviceable story. I had alot of fun while watching it, and that's really all that matters to me personally. I respect your opinion for disliking it, Im just finding it hard to understand, as it was just a simple story with stunning vissuals, played it pretty safe.
Bro I feel like this movie was made just to be hated on. Like the animation is good but in the world of Spider Verse not really. The themes are good if they hadn’t been done to death a million times already. The characters are good but the hot girl, dumb guy trope is so predictable and boring as hell. Like what does this movie even have going for it?
Lightyear was the rock bottom of Pixar so im happy this was a step up
By all means elemental is the most cliche rom com ever but it’s a Pixar rom com which as karsten mentioned is something they haven’t really done before! And it made me cry and I was really not expecting to be so Invested in this love story so yeah though it’s clearly not the best from Pixar, I enjoyed it.
I will see this when I get a discount for the theather
It was actually an awesome movie. I loved it. I respect people’s other opinions on this (except anything implying WoKe which has nothing to do with anything if you saw the movie).
Elemental is PEAK PIXAR
It was too derivative of "Zootopia". It continues to use the same story premise that so many other Disney animated films have. It rehashes the familiar premise of a male or female protagonist going against family or community expectations by not confirming to them but instead rebelling against them and branching out to be their own person by reaching their own goals and desires. In other words you don't have to be a slave to conformity. Things can change and you can be your own person. We see this over and over again in films like "Coco" "Moana" "Red" "Mulan" and so on and it is definitely repeated here.
It just lacked that Pixar heart ❤️
True 😢
I watched the film yesterday with a cousin. Here's why it might not top my recommendation list unless you're seeking to burn away some time:
On the plus side, aspects of the musical score, the intriguing world-building, and the artistic direction struck a chord, albeit not mind-blowing when compared to masterpieces like Across the Spider-Verse or other Pixar films. A highlight for me was the heartwarming relationship between Ember and her father. As an immigrant, I found that to be the most relatable of the film's themes, which echo the deep respect and gratitude we often feel towards our parents for their sacrifices.
However, the film's other elements (no pun intended) left me wanting. The plot felt lackluster and even cringe-inducing at times. There were humorous snippets and bits of charm in some of the romantic scenes during the Second Act, but the Third Act and Climax of the love story had me face-palming in embarrassment. The film also failed to make me care for any of its characters deeply, apart from Ember's father and occasionally, Ember herself.
The movie stumbles in its attempt to juggle numerous narrative threads within a limited runtime, resulting in a mediocre execution of all. It strains to generate a "West Side Story" vibe between Ember and Wade but falls short of igniting (ha!) any genuine interest in their relationship. Wade, as a lead character, was uninspired, reduced to a monotonous figure whose most defining feature was a worn-out trope-his tendency to cry as he was made of water. His redeeming moments were far and few, notably when he discussed his complex relationship with his father and during his sincere confrontation with Ember regarding her fears.
Simultaneously, the film broaches the subject of the expectations thrust upon immigrant children by their well-intentioned parents and the potential clash with their personal desires. This could have been a compelling message if supported by tangible conflict. The sole reason Ember feels torn between her father's aspirations and her own is due to her reluctance to communicate her desires until the film's climax-this felt so unbelievably dumb to me. I would have been more engaged if Ember had an earnest dialogue with her father from the very beginning, justifying her ambitions as equally valuable and honoring her cultural roots. There'd be a genuine conflict then, which would have moved the story in a far better way to get the viewer invested.
If you've got hours to spare for light entertainment, particularly with family, Elementals may serve the purpose. Otherwise, I'd suggest waiting until it streams online if your interest is only lukewarm.
Thank you for recommending past live! I watched it a couple days ago and it was the best, most heart-wrenching movie I’ve seen in a LONG while. If you haven’t seen it yet, DO IT!!
When i saw the official title card for this movie (the thing that says Elemental in its own style) i KNEW this movie was gonna flop. The way Elemental is written is SO BORING. Theres NO personality to it. I mean they set themselves up with using the ELEMENTS and they couldnt think of a more creative way to present the TITLE of the movie?? Anway Disney has gotten lazy and its biting them in the ass
This movie is Zootopia.
The fact the ending shows the fire neighborhood getting gentrified as a good thing was so messed up that I actually had a laughing fit.
Where can I see past lives? Already saw Across the Spiderverse
The first Pixar movie that feels like it was written by ChatGPT.
You said “let’s not get all red in the face” when you should’ve said “let’s not get fired up about this..” get it… fired up?!!
I honestly think a bunch of love and care was put into this movie, especially after watching all the extras the moment they released.
I've watched this movie 27 times the past 12 days, and honestly I think this movie is great, we obviously don't have the same opinion but to agree to disagree I'll say that you do raise some good points but I do feel you were a bit nitpicky and a lot of what you said rubbed off of me the wrong way.
4:30 As a guy experienced with romcoms, that's an old technique used in the genre to extend the drama, get your main romantic partner have cold feet out of the blue (ironically was Ember), and being used to it I wouldn't have minded but it literally cut short something more compelling, them looking for a way to bridge their differences, and it was kinda thrown to the side by focusing on Ember's family issues and an uninspired second climax.
Still checking daily for that Succession season 4 video!
I thought based on the poster that the animation would be horrendous, but it honestly has a pretty cool look. What sucks though is there is too much going on for you to even appreciate the individual styles for each element type. It's nauseating to look at. Watching the trailer I actually thought maybe the romance would be the best part because of that rom/com vibe and also because they each has such soothing voices, rooting for them!
It was a fun movie to watch with my family. The hate and bad rep it's getting is over-rated.
I thought this movie was good. I know that there's a lot of criticism about it being generic or same ol same ol, which, is true, but I don't think that is enough to call the entire movie bad. Especially since the target audience was for young people and children, I was not expecting something very unique or complex. I like how they gave all the elements their own kind of culture and 'place', and my goodness the animation was beautiful. Also, coming from someone who's almost as emotional as Wade, I thought Ember and Wade's relationship was adorable. 😅 I will say though that Pixar is getting more and more like Disney, but honestly, I kinda saw it coming, though it doesn't make it any less dissapointing. :/
Yeah I got to see an advanced screening (it doesn’t come out for 2 weeks where I’m from) and I just left early outta being underwhelmed
I have little interest in the movie, but I've enjoyed the Schaffrillas and Karsten double bill today!
Unpopular opinion: Pixar hasn't actually made a good film since Coco.
Even Coco was a bit mid tbh
@@Rav2006 Wut? Could you explain your thoughts? I haven't met anybody that didn't like Coco yet.
Could you explain why you thought elemental wasn't good?
It really feels like SZA dropping when you post 😂😂 but fr everything you opened with is synonymous with a lot of us watching! You’re so appreciated and how you still pop up to keep things going is admirable. ❤❤
Oh well...LET'S GO BARBIE GANG!
I like the new profile picture
ive heard a lot of interesting reactions, ranging from "well its better than I expected, but not great", to "its cute. Not Pixar's best, obviously, but cute", I havnt actually heard a negative review yet so this should be interesting.
4:45 I heard about the third act misunderstanding trope. Sounds like it wasnt really necessary for this movie, or at least, wasnt done that well.
6:46 "felt like a waste of time", I dont think there's really a worse thing a film can be. A really bad film can be terrible in every way, but wont feel like a waste of time just because its so laughably bad. But this, slots right in the middle, isnt good enough to feel like a meaningful experience, not bad enough to either.
This is the first movie I watched alone
I don't know if it was a good or bad choice and I left the theatre feeling like i've done nothing. It didn't make me emotional nor did it dissapoint me, it left me in a limbo
Succession video soon?