Trucker Jay: Pulled by DVSA (VOSA) overweight, infringements?
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I'd have told Mr Vosa inspector that if he didn't like being recorded maybe he should go ask the services to turn their CCTV off as well! Absolutely detest people that think they are above the law because they hold a bit of power!
No such thing as VOSA.
@@trainman665 just wondering what these tri dom trailers you guys pull around are they 35 40 foot trailers n what does vosa stand for across the pond we got DOT short for department of transport not my favorite people gotta say
@@stevehancock1698 They tend to be around 40ft usually. VOSA stands for Vehicle and Operator Services Agency. VOSA was closed 8 years ago though. It was replaced with DVSA, Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency.
@@trainman665 also does a driver have to help a dvsa person when pulled over
@@stevehancock1698 Hi Steve the Maximum Trailer length is 45ft But they do vary many of the older trailers are 40ft. To carry the maximum weight in the UK they have to be Tri - Axle. Maximum weight is 44 UK tonnes that Equals 98560 pounds. And no you do not have to help the DVSA if they pull you over. Your only obligation is to pass over your Licence and driver Card if requested.
Police instructed me to the weigh bridge at Ross, (I explained I had two pallets of insulation, approx 25 kgs). Queued for 20 minutes on inside lane of A449 then over the bridge. The DVSA bloke told me I was 12 tonnes over weight on the front axlel, then laughed and apologised for the police guy and told me to be on my way. Thanks for posting.
Must’ve been unlucky that day, I travel that road regularly and rarely see that dvsa site open
Yeah mate, i got pulled for a weight check by old bill near Heathrow 15 years back, i was in a 26 ton hiab with 1 bag of driveway shingle on the back, (my last drop) 😂😂😂
I was stopped once at weighbridge near Basf Slinfold. The policeofficer asked what my cargo was. I told him empty tanks. He didnt even asked me to open the doors and wished me a nice day without weiging the truck.
Amazing just how many customer yards are so difficult to get in and out of with a large truck. Stay safe and take care.
Great video Jay. The joys of the DVSA. Just shows you the importance of daily vehicle checks I guess. Good to see yours was ok. Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the ride out Jay 👍the first Vosa officer was quite pleasant but the inspector was a bit of a miserable bu-er lol I know they have a job to do and are mostly not liked by truckers but at least he could have been a little more civil toward you. Good luck and take care Jay 👋😃
No problem 👍
All our truck were run on cooking oil and frequently clogged the fuel filter on the old Volvos and filter & injectors on the dafs
If I ever got pulled by vosa I had a way I could prematurely clog the filter and fake a breakdown on the hard shoulder 🤫
All it needed was the fuel filter taking off and putting back on again and it’s be back to normal but until that was done the truck would cough and splutter and hardly tick over, it was enough for them to cancel the Pull! And let me get on with seeking recovery
Just parked up in Camberley 😀 So nothing better that chilling out with a ride with trucker Jay 👍🏻
I wonder if the dvsa guy did his checks at the beginning of his shift? His left indicator obviously doesn't work. I'd have let him know cutting across an hgv without indicating isn't very clever. It's careless driving.
25:22 I skipped through the “boring stuff” (I drive artics for a living so it’s all stuff I do regular), and when you said roof tiles, I’ll guess at 22 pallets of about 1 tonne a piece.
Respect to you - the skills driving the 18 wheeler - balls of steel.
14 wheels
@@ben2749 his unit actually has 6 rims on 8 tyres, the trailer has another 6 wheels and tyres. Add the tyres (that’s what the Americans call a wheel which is why they say 18 wheeler) up you get 14 tyres and 12 wheels
If VOSA all behaved like the first guy that pulled you everyone would get on much better. Most seem to have a stinking attitude
Well they couldn’t make the police grade ..which must be shite low looking at some of the half wits that are in the polis
i spent many years tramping britains roads and never had a issue with these guys they are justdoing a job they only got awkard with drivers who tried to take the piss!
I they wonder why there's a shortage of drivers when you've got to deal with these Herbert's
So you would be ok with driving down a motorway with your family, followed by an overweight lorry with defective tyres and brakes?
I got stopped near Tower Bridge .
Fortunately for me everything was good & up to date .
Give them due they were nice guys .
Hi mate thanks for the drive along great driveing the dvsa are some time ok any been stoped a few times . I should get something to check my driver card. Take care mate
Cool video Jay glad you could video the pullover gave us a good insight to other things that you truckers have to go through and also teaches that it's always best to keep up with checks great stuff my friend keep them coming and stay safe buddy
Picked cars up from Kastners Volvo in Matford several times when I used to go around the Country, Exeter is a lovely City!
I got tugged by DVSA once in an 18tonne rigid. I’m, ahem, particular in my checks, (a boss suspended me from driving duties for 8 weeks tryna beat that outta me), but still a nervous moment. Four of em. One tappin the wheel nuts, one downloading my tacho, one doing I have no idea what, and the supervisor. A23 northbound shortway past Pyecombe, Sussex.
Meh, they gotta job to do & the state of trucks in some fleets would be way worse if they didn’t exist. Not watched this yet but read a few comments. We’re all human, we all have bad days, and if the grumpy one is always grumpy, there’s probably a reason for it that we know nothing of. Personally, I take very little serious unless it Is serious
Any infringements or defects would go against your OCRS score (Operator Risk Compliance Score) which goes from Red, Amber, Green on the Operators Licence aka O'Licence.
I was pulled near Nottingham because I had lost a warning triangle off the back overhang. They made the firm send someone from Leeds with another stick on triangle before I could proceed , took hours , glad I’m out of it now.
Cracking video as always Jay, first Vosa chap was ok, which is how they all should be, doesn’t cost anything to be polite and chatty! Didn’t go much on his mate! Keep up the good work and keep safe! 😀🚛
Thanks for the video . When I got pulled about 2 weeks ago l never mentioned the dashcam nor will l ever. You always get a good and bad working together to fool the driver into thinking that they are not as horrible as you imagine . But they are!😀
Thanks for the video. Just out of interest, if they see a bad tyre on your rig, is that 3 points?
I was a class 1 female truck driver in the 80s and 90s no auto boxes range changers and spliters and no sat nav, hated doing london with London a to z in one hand and wheel in other, also did work abroad and furthest I went was Gibraltar. Love ur channel and I hated being pulled by as we called them the ministry lol and axial weights. Trouble is ours where loaded for us and should you be slightly over on an axial was us for chop not loaders. So unfair. We went from artics too rigeds with draw bar trailers and worst ones with turning axial on front of trailer and rear wheels on trailer. Wow took some time to master reversing them. I did enjoy the life style and there wasn't many femme truck drivers around then. Love ur channel much better than that nutter Tim lol tell me do the new electronic tacos tell u how much time have left driving and do u still have to switch it from other work to driving ? I always forget to switch it lol. I rember we used to have too keep the previous weeks thacos with us at all time. I do rember when the speed limiter first came in and at first was a limit of 60mph which was ok but then a year later went down to the 56mph that was painful lol
Oh yes used to out out with my uncle. maps, phone boxes and plenty of excuse me, do you know where.... I passed in manual, I used to write my directions down like m60 j1 keep left turn 3rd right etc. never had a million maps like some drivers though. my truck puts it on rest as soon as you stop. i always forget to put on other work. long gone are the frizbe days ;)
Go for led bulbs…. Clear white and not dull yellow light. Big difference
I've not been driving long if i had a day like that I'd be stressed to the max, that reverse in the dead end between the cars, stopped by dvsa man how you so chilled, i get a sweet on just parking in a services 🤣
good luck mate, been on the road over 30 years never been pulled over, drive smoothly never give them an excuse & you're golden.
hahah really? i was lane 1 56mph
Eeee well that was really interestin...the VOSA bit 👍 hats off don't know how the hell you lot reverse those big buggers into tiny wee gaps 👏🙌
I'm only just starting to get my class 2, I'm absolutely sh***ing myself already about getting vosa checked
Great vid Jay, the problem the DVSA had there was the fact the inspector does not know their own policies about being filmed, which is all they are, they are not laws nor regulations. Even more so, their "policies" only cover them in or on their OWN premises or land. They definitely have no rights or permission to stop you filming when they pull you into a service station or when they pull you over at anytime on the open road. "Keep on Truckin'"
VOSA is in public so if they didnt want to be filmed they can go away
You may well be right but the unwritten part of the DVSA checks is the attitude test. If you give them a hard time they can easily find a 'fault' or some reason to delay you. Its usually best to put up with the inspectors - even if you disagree with them.
Im currently learning to drive a hgv. Wat do u switch the tacho to whilst ur being grilled by vosa???
Do u put it to other work(cross hammers) or poa
yes that's right most trucks automatically switch when stopped. not all so be careful
Welcome to working out of my hometown Jay! Up the Brewers!
"Can't sit here it's going to annoy the neighbours"
Proceeds to reverse with beepers on in early morning......smh.
The Heebink truck in front is from my area here in the Netherlands, most of them are bright orange :P :)
I see them a lot
Whoo a new jay video 😊 I find these so interesting to watch! X keep up the good work jay! X
Hope you enjoyed it!
Jay would you ever consider an Air Fryer? Do you have an inverter. It would make the food taste more like home.
In my hometown! Surprised I didn't see the truck
Maybe get some 12v remote controlled lights for the cab? Great video jay :)
Good idea!
Seen you on m5 at Bristol Wednesday 26th October awesome truck stay safe Jay
How common are manual trucks of this size in the UK? I honestly thought they were all automatics, like most buses and coaches here. Do you float the gears without using a clutch like American trucks?
not that common, i sometimes float it not often/
Just passed and i need a truck sat nav, i dont know which to buy which one do u use?
I bought a agri 7 inch screen from Amazon a lot better than my former Tom Tom
Nice one jay dont think people think when they park how difficult it is for a an artic at times myself included .. im not a trucker but ive sign written plenty , great videos just started to watch be safe🏴🇬🇧
Thanks 👍
Being a beginner in HGV class 1 - though working in Germany only - I wondered why no anti slip mats were applied. Can anybody tell me? Thanks in advance! Thumbs up for this video!!! It's a pleasure to watch your videos!
@@Joukker99 if a pallet with heavy goods is all of a sudden pretending to be your co driver thanks to you having to break all of a sudden you might reconsider this idiotic reasons. Just saying.
anti slip mats are only used on the metal of the trailer bed. but they are not needed a company came up with it and sold it to others. its a scam. im sure they can help in some cases but not all.
Thanks for your comment Jay! In my driving school (2022 btw) there was a big talk to use them while strapping the goods down.
A very good Friday afternoon to you all from Wellington Somerset
Loving your channel buddy, keep up the good work. Wish I had your job😊
Glad you enjoy it!
be careful when throwing bits out of your window as even a cigarette end can lead you to a £60 fine thanks for the video
it was picket fluff i think lol
Yes, Mate customer yards are tight.
Ohhhhh do I see a manual there hehe last time I seen you drive a manual was that yellow daf cf steel wagon you drove nice
That’s going back
Iv never been stopped by them, but one day I seen them pull in behind, sat there for 5min and then they pulled in front of me, I was sure I was getting stopped, but then they pulled in front of the truck that was in front of me, and pulled him in. I must admit not having ever been pulled, and even though I knew my truck and taco was in order I still changed my underwear after moment.😂😂. That was M5 sevices near M50. Right where that red container is that’s where we park to deliver to McDonald’s. And they shouldn’t be allowed to stop you there as it’s a delivery spot.
Great video, did you sell any merch to the VSOE man !!
TRIED MY CB in the same place as yours didn't like it felt unnatural and even had issues so moved it back above my head where it belongs also standard daf antenna are pants so got rid of that as well
I have heard that is the Lockerbie truck stop is to close down Jay and keep up the good camera 📷 work and have a good week out on the road 🛣️
Hi James
Called into Lockerbie this morning 4:11:22
My god it’s closed 😢 for good..
Absolutely gutted.
Those breakfast..
Apparently they have been bought out for its truck park,by a local neighbour
Yes it is
Very interesting as a mere car driver. - Do you carry a small bike or something so you can go off on a jolly when parked up? You must park on and get bored off your nut at night?
Another good video Jay. Going to order some of your merch soon.
cheers paul, im working on some new designs
Strensham services? Top vid as always!
At beginning, did the DVSA vehicle not use the indicator when turning into your lane?
They haven't
Are all the trucks newer in the UK? My company in the US still has 20+ year old tractors and trailers in use.
most are under 5 years old but i guess the fleets update them once the service package is over.
Did he check the load was strapped? I've never been stopped by them before and I just assumed they check absolutely everything when they pull you in lol Thanks for the video very interesting!
nope
I know they are there for our safety but I still hate being pulled by them. 4 times for me and 4 times no fines. Driver 4 Smug VOSA 0 😀
Thank you Jay. Another video Enjoyed. DVSA After Brownie pints Still someone’s got to do it. Glad you was all O K With Them Thanks again. Take care and Stay safe and safe Trucking.
Thanks again!
My 11 year old son loves your channel 👍🏻
I have all my HGV provisionals now on my UK licence, done medicals etc haven't passed tests. No discredit to you or your videos whasoever, but it has put me off even bothering doing the tests.
Massive amount of respect to you. I just don't think I could do what you do in the UK or mainland Europe, the roads are just so difficult to navigate. Maybe the USA, don't know how difficult it would be to get a truck driving job there. If I were to just manage to pass my tests here, how hard would it be to translate that over to an American trucker licence?
Start on class 2 its a lot easier and its a way to get into the game if you want. Hiab work is just as well paid as class 1 if your working for the right firm a lot of the time anyway and more interesting
If you do work like I do, which is hauling frozen foods i deliver to the big warehouses so plenty of space to manoeuvre. Dont be put off go for it, not all driving jobs are shit.
@@pamnade Thank you, I've since my last post booked my theory tests, and have taken a couple lessons in a class 2 vehicle.
What do you drive, if you don't mind me asking? and do you work day or night shifts, maybe a mixture? I was thinking of starting out on night shifts, to gain confidence when it's less busy
Still lack confidence, I see guys around our industrial estate swinging their artics around like it's nothing, amazes me.
Will eventually go for my Class 1 C+E (Hopefully)
Class 1. I think youd be better going straight for this while you can, save some money. I find it's easier work to on the artics. Most of ours we just back on a bay and wait to be tipped. Just aldi and lidl are self tip and you get an electric truck to do it. My nephew just ust went for class 1 didnt have to take class 2 first and is enjoying it. Hes on 40k for a Monday to Friday shift pattern. No long days either and home every night. I do 4 on 4 off and really fits my lifestyle.
To answer your question about trucking jobs in the US. It is easier to pass your test in the US. The standards are not as high as they are in the UK. The trucks as you know are longer so you have much more space in the cabin. The no 1 truck is kenworth and the roads are long and wide compared to the UK. Even if you drive in the cities you won't have to squeeze through parked cars. The country is massive you will rarely drive across the country which will take days. But you can still spend hours driving the equivalent of the UK in a region lol. Finally the salary is much higher compared to the UK. Unlike the UK where there is a universal salary for truck drivers, in America it is different. Salary varies from state to state as each employer sets theirs. It is not uncommon to earn anywhere from $70k to $100k. If only drivers in the UK earned similar
Another great vlog Jay 👍🏻
The inspector is in his place of work not on his own time as far as hes concerned by point his face out he's left open to criminal gangs knowing who he is and getting him to make sure he lets unroadworthy trucks stay on the road by threatening his family because it happened here in Ireland not defending him just saying he has reasons
Do the daily checks form part of the first 4.5hrs driving or are you allowed xx mins for a daily check?
4.5 hours of driving is literally just driving you can't walk about and drive at the same time.
@@truckerjay cheers.
@John it's the same with coach driving (I'm a coach driver) you have 15 hours max working a day with 45 hours off a week. So the VOSA get really arsey if they can't see a 10-15 min "other work" section at the start of your working day on your tacho. But a walk round counts as working. Not 4.5hrs drive time.
Can a HGV driver refuse to perform actions that MIGHT incriminate him. For instance turning on indicators only to find a bulb is out leaving him open to a penalty.
i dont know that answer... good question!
Dont be that guy
8:55 - Oooo that was close :D
that's normal for trucks every day
@@truckerjay Oh I know haha, it's that side of truck driving that would stress me out too much, enjoying the vids mate you've come a long way, keep it up. 👍
These ETS 2 mods are getting crazy realistic.
Good vid jay you parked next to my work when u set off at the beginning where the white bmw was parked to your right 😊
Oh cool!
@@truckerjay and I’m glad u didn’t turn left where that mercury van was because the rd is two till the end where it’s a no entry to the roundabout
Makes you think maybe they shouldn't be built there in the first place or only except smaller trucks!
Somehow this video showed up on my list. Glad I watched it just hit the like & suscribe. Looks like no matter what state or country Mr.officer is always there lol. Cool video hello from Chicago IL.
Thanks for sub dude, welcome
08:56 my lord, that was close! xD
I wonder why he held the cloggie in front of you much longer? Dare bet it was tacho related though!
whats that?
I've come across a lot of DVSA people, both on the ex-VOSA and ex-DSA side of things, fair to say you can spot the ones who used to be VOSA, they always seem to be the least agreeable ones....
Although they can be a real pain in the arse and seem to be trying to cause you unnecessary grief sometimes, I really do think they're a necessary evil - what some of the cowboy firms out there would do if they thought they could get away with it doesn't bear thinking about, the roads would be far more dangerous without the threat of random inspections and prohibitions etc.
Loved the video Inc the vosa stop, I was wondering if you get the driving time back if you were pulled for a long time seeing that you truckers seem to run to a specific driving times? Always enjoy your outings keep it up jay. 🚛💪👍
Unfortunately not
I would not want to drive a truck over there
Great video Jay keep up the great content mate
Thanks, will do!
these jobsworths make me sick. if it had been a foreign vehicle they wouldnt have stopped it.
Wheel tappers and weight watches
It seems like trucking over there is alot slower paced than in the usa
Whilst I disagree with the DVSA, over inspection reports, I aslo have to admit, that I once went on a Coach Trip from Edinburgh to Italy, we were pulled up at Carlisle, and had to wait two hours whilst the company came to change two dangerous tyres on the coach, I was mad at the delay of a 36 hour trip with this delay but on reflection it was right
Great video jay keep it up
Interesting video Jay, thanks for the insight. Nice tidy truck👍🏽 Exeter my home so agree..’Marsh Barton’ ind estate nothing special ! Your music when leaving your first overnighter was same as on another CZcams channel I follow; ‘Matt’s off-road recovery’. Worth a look if you not seen it. Drive safe mate.
Thanks 👍
I've just passed my class 1 C+E with 5 minors 2 days ago!
congrats but how did you pass with 5?
Did you sell them a hoodie?
Was it Squeaky bumb time Jay, nothing to hide sir 😬 💪💯
noooo.. well maybe.. just a little
Ah, the crap hole that is Marsh Barton. Spent enough time fighting a truck around that place
Interesting content
Great video Jay cheers for Doing these they really entertaining
Glad you like them not forgotten your shoutout
@@truckerjay in my previous truck, I had 2x 2metre LED light strips, remote control, sticky back and work from USB with multi coloured and a bright white.
Very cheap on Ebay, I think around 6 - 12 quid ish.
Amazing driving skills . My mrs can’t even park her fiat 500 straight in a parking bay
She must be related to mine.
Longer the trailer more easy to reverse
@@christinecrockford1654 My kind of girl
@@bluesky4733 lol I'm miss no one special lol but I do drive a nice car that makes me look far more attractive lol
@@christinecrockford1654 What car is that I’ll have to buy my mrs one 🤣
Please take extra safety precaution if you encounter any motorcyclists along the way
I always do wish some did the same around trucks
@@truckerjay I wish the UK roads were more wider like in America.
Good reversing respect
Nice one Jay lad
So they didn’t even want a selfie with you, what a miserable………
Good video Jay 😎👍
Got the one that came
With microwave but it has a wierd plug
I think you had a case of Red vehicle syndrome. Authorities are like bulls, they see Red and they must have a piece of it.
I don't get that inspector as dashcams and CCTV exists so he's always going to be on camera somewhere, although saying that looking at police searching for missing persons implies CCTV is very limiting lol. He's in the wrong job if he doesn't like cameras filming him, I guess he really hates the newer vehicles with all their built-in cameras rofl.
public place as you say, he can't do fxxk all about it
Can I be a cheeky bugger and ask how much someone can expect to earn as a HGV driver who is willing to stay away like you do and does a delayed pickup (as you'll be having tomorrow) make any difference to your pay please? Great video, so thank you!
Around 50k - 60k range I believe
Which services was it jay? It looked like exeter moto?. Ps got alot of time for drivers as i work in a warehouse yard tipping and directing driver's. Mosf are cool ..some arnt but most know the score you scratch my back and your get tipped quicker!🤣🤣most know me by name and always remember me as you try to have a laugh as it makes the day go easier..keep up.the intresting video's. 👍👍
Trouble is your driving an Old DAF , but good Video . I was onthe road driving Volvos
Plenty of other trucks 2017 on the road lol
would that be marsh barton trading estate jay as im famillar with as i live nearby
Your vlogs are amazing
Glad you like them!