How To Edge Like A Pro With a String Trimmer Vs Using A Stick Edger - Lawn Care Vlog Walk Through
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- Hey guys, wanted to show you how to edge a lawn with a string trimmer in lawn care. I also show you the difference when using a stick edger, vs a string trimmer, when you edge a lawn. Again, I personally feel you get the best results when using a stick edger, but there is nothing wrong when starting out, getting an edge line with a string trimmer.
The trimmer I was using is my Redmax 260TS, and the stick edger is the Redmax HEZ2460. I love both of those units, and I have used them for a very long time. Again, if you're going to be doing lawn care for a while, I highly encourage folks to invest in a good quality stick edger.
If you're new to edging with a trimmer, give yourself some slack. It takes time to develop the skill set, to get a nice clean line. Don't be surprised if it takes you a few times to get it just right!
What do you guys prefer, stick edger, or using a string trimmer? Comment down below!
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Stick edger is the way to go. Best look in the quickest time. In the end it's all about straight, and clean lines.
I struggle holding the trimmer in that orientation, spills my beer every time
Lmao
You need a beer helmet
Always drink half the beer before you start. There !!spills problem gone😊👍
cspriggs96 Damn! Put the trimmer down?
You a fool homie.😁😁😁
I used to do a lot of extras for customers back when running my truck. Problem with doing few extras, it always leads to more extras. Some of these folks think we should still be cutting grass for $20, like a teen pushing a mower through the neighborhood. They cant understand why their yard will cost $50-$80 a cut.
I use the edge it pro and a stick edger I like the edge it for maintaining an edge around mulch beds. Usually just take it slow and try to keep it from flinging mulch everywhere.
Great video, instructions, wisdom and work! Thanks!
When I edge with the Waker, I turn it upside down and walk backwards. Works pretty good
I just bought my first house in January and for the first time in my life I have to learn the trade. Much respect to your skills. Thanks to you I am getting the hang of it and not only enjoying doing it but taking pride in my work as well. I wish you the best.
Ha very cool!
Awesome! Thanks Brian your super skilled and knowledgeable. I appreciate hearing the theory behind doing things a certain way. I will be edging my lawn for the first time in a few days wish me luck! Thanks for sharing! Peace and Blessings to all!
You need more slant into the grass, and walk backward for more stability until you master forward right hand, but a tip for forward right hand try to just use the tip of the string dont go so deep as you said
You mean , what she said....
Man, slant? No effen way. If you slanted my edge, you would never do my lawn again. Straight up and down! No backwards walking. I want that that grass trimmed up and down not at an angle butted right up against the sidewalk! Walking backward cuts to deep.
I personally have worked with both. I do the trimmer from the sidewalk and hold it straight. I have pretty much mastered this technique with the trimmer, but the edger even from a rookie looks better than a master with a trimmer imo.
I agree for the most part, but certain grasses eg. st Augustine, look better edged with a trimmer.
Just edged my yard the other week for the first time ever with the weed Wacker....i did have to go over it a couple of times to get the sod pulled loose where it was growing up over the pavement but omg just spending like 30 minutes on it with the weed Wacker was such a huge improvement. No regrets on it.
I picked up a PAS edger and bed redifiner and the paddle bloom. Took my game to a whole new level and fast
Really found this to be helpful. I have been using my string trimmer and was not happy with the way it looked. Tomorrow I will be getting a stick edger. Thanks
awesome man! let me know what one you get!
Im left handed I use the trimmer to edge, i walk forward and go with the rotation of the head instead of against it. Leaves a crispy line and never had any issues with debris shooting out.
This is my first time coming across your channel. I like how you're humble with your opinions, but also back them up with common sense that some people might not think about. Awesome teaching video!! I don't do any commercial mowing, just my personal lawn...I use my echo straight shaft trimmer to edge. I will definitely be looking into an edger, very clean look! Keep up your videos, very professional and informative!
Thanks buddy
Up here in the northeast a lot of the edges of driveways are cracked good luck using a edger, I won't break out the edger unless I'm doing top notch properties
As always, great video! Totally agree, you need a stick edger if you want results. String trimmers can be used on already established edges, but not for cutting overgrown edges! If I'm doing a short stretch, on an already established edge, I'll use the trimmer, but for long runs and thicker overgrown edges, a stick edger can't be beat. I do find it interesting that you hold the trimmer across your body to the left, and walk forward in the grass when edging with a trimmer....I have always walked forward (sideways), with the trimmer on my head on my right, walking on the concrete. I may have to try your method, to see if I like it. Thanks for the videos!
The criticism from the youtube experts cracks me up every time. This guy makes a living off this and his edger cost more than the average guy’s lawn mower. I don’t think he needs your approval 😂😂.
😉😎
It is funny to hear peoples BS about a string trimmer working better than an edger. If that was truly the case they would have never made blade edgers. Instead they would have made better adapters to make string trimmers function better as string edgers.
Stacy Jr been in business in the business since I was 16 im 32 now and operate a successful lawn care business. In fact I'm a one man band who has 60 clients 10 of which are corporate/plants oh and 2 baseball complexes.
To each its own
So does this mean you don't need your edger any more Brian?
We use manual edger to clean the major overgrowth off walkways. This helps finding the sidewalk edges. Then we use the edger to straighten the edge. We then clean it up with our trimmers.
It is such a pain in the ass edging a yard that is over grown and also hard dirt getting in the way from you getting between the edge of the sidewalk
This is the best Lawn Maintenance Channel on the entire YT...
Good job Dude!
Excelsior!
Wow, thanks!
If the grass is overgrown the sidewalks, flat shovel the areas back toward the lawn. When you edge it’ll slice off real clean.
Save time and your back by using a string trimmer to undercut the over growth first, then just use the trimmer to trim the grass back. Super fast no shovel needed. This also helps to find the edge of the sidewalk when its not visible. After you find the edge you can then use and edger or string trimmer to edge.
Hi Brian I am from Jamaica and I really appreciate this video demonstration. I am really new to this kind of business but it is something that I have been doing voluntarily in my community for years. I certainly can learn a whole lot from if you don't mind.
Christians' Force Orders (CFO) Hope it helps!
I have 91 yards been in buisness for 20 years. I use a echo straight shaft no guard with .80 string and get a excellent edge and i mow in upper class neighborhoods. I get a excellent looking edge but I think I will buy a edger you talked me into it i am buying one in a few days.
I like the look of line trimmers vs the stick edger
If you roll your feet ( like corps style marching) as you walk, you keep yourself from bouncing. If you’re moving backwards, up on the balls of feet, you’ll be able to move quickly, and keep yourself from bouncing up and down. The less you bounce, the better you keep your eye-line, getting straighter edges. All the summers cutting grass made me a better marcher for marching band too!
27 yrs in the military... I agree. Lose the bounce in your step when trimming, put the bounce back when hitting the bank for deposits.
Subscribed etc... watching this on a week's holiday at the end of the grass season. Nothing makes me want to get back to it more lol
Lol
I've got most tools imaginable.....Including a complete Stihl Kombi-system, and I still enjoy great videos from this guy...you can always get an new idea....I've gotten more great ideas from forums for my John Deere tractor, my Scag zero turn and all of my yard equipment from youtube type videos.....nice job....keep it up. EB
My old boss would have chewed me out if he ever saw me trim a line like that we never had any stick edgers with us but it does do a good lines if your skills aren't there yet with a trimmer
We charge $10.00 per inch it goes onto the concrete. Find the longest part of overgrowth and thats what to measure and charge. If theres literal soil and sod from years of overgrowth its a way bigger number to charge. We haven't been told that it is too expensive yet! Some recent ones we have had have been between 5-7 inches. Obviously if the area is very big, pricing could change. We use the STIHL FC95 Stick Edger first to get the line. Then use our STIHL 111RX String Trimmer to cut it off. Then go back with the stick edger for the clean cut.
Tiger Lawn Care LLC well said. I like that.
Per inch? That’s ridiculous!!
If I'm the customer I would laugh u off my yard walking up taking measurements. Stick to $10,$15,$25. You know just by looking what the job takes. Bermuda vs Zoysia or Centipede or even tuff ass Weeds on the edge. Makes it look like sales breaking out a tape measure
musclepits, exactly. Don’t imagine they get much business for that price! It is comical!
I love the way you keep your trailer so clean! Set by example.
I like how clean and organized the equipment looks like
In 12 years if lawn care I have never even put my hands on an edger. They just aren't popular in my area. You hardly ever see an edger on a truck in West Tn. We got edging down with our trimmers tho l can assure you.
+Matt Reynolds nice!
Matt Reynolds same here from California
same here in the uk ;)
Matt Reynolds almost 40 years for my dad’s business here in Canada, and never had a power edger. I have done a great job of edging with an electric trimmer(not my first choice). You can edge with any trimmer if you know what you’re doing.
I find it easier to string trim edge if it really over grown and you dont know where the concrete is.
I will use an edger once a month at the most at any property to clean it up
"Overgrown" lmao I found an extra foot of sidewalk on my backyard walkway after it's first edge in probably 15 years
Me too 😂
Yeah but you’re probably 1 in a million that has that problem
Some of my places the grass is the sidewalk
I recently upgraded my echo trimmer to the PAS 2620 and I love it
I use the stick edger attachment for my Stihl KM131 power heads and the blower attachment to blow out that line once it's edged. Blowing out the soil from the edged line not only helps keep the line clean (stuff regrows in the line if it's not cleaned out), but it also gets the clippings off the hardscape and onto the lawn where I can mulch it up afterwards.
Bent shaft is typically for string head Having a cable drive shaft. The straight has often a solid shaft necessary for poly /steel blade applications. Some are still cable even when straight shaft ,I think they are more forgiving when under load. Btw you really should have a German Stihl 😉
Nothing like good ol' german engineering👍
Hmmmm, interesting, I was a lawn care pro for 15 years in the 80's/90's & we used either a Power Trim or a Mclane edger with a 2 or 3 horse Briggs engine, never once put a rock through a window because I always put my body between me & the building/parked car/street. But there were times that a rock would hit me in the shin & cut through my pants & draw blood. I started wearing shin guards under my pants. Awe, times have changed, this looks like a pretty good system though.
I like the way you explain everything it makes it so easy to understand
Great video! Very informative!
If your edging with a trimmer on the side walk or driveway, be prepared to keep asking for more string cause that concrete eats it up. You need that edger to create that hole evenly throughout the edge.
Asphalt is even worse
Hey Brian try edging from the outside of the yard with with your trimmer head facing the opposite direction. Myself with my company I edge every time I cut, no exceptions.
Great video! You did an excellent job of explaining each action and why. Thank you!
I always use a string trimmer to edge. Seeing concrete eaten away from sloppy edger work bugs me lol...
You're obviously skilled and professional, so rock on brother!
Crew always use the eaters, walk backwards always with straight equipment, and have LONG string out and it's just as good. Only one property they bring the stick edger.
When you buy a line trimmer don't worry about the size of the engine look up the BHP that's what matters and that's how strong the heads going to spin and chop grass
I totally agree with you on the yards that have over grown edges. Use the hard blade for edging.
I use trimmers for edging and trimming. It's a lot faster for me. Especially if I'm edging and come up to a mailbox. All you have to do is set it straight and trim.
I understand why you hold it that way as well(keeps the fuel flowing threw the lines). If you flip the trimmer and walk (forward) while on the concrete side it'll give you a better and deeper cut almost like the blades. But be careful of some debris that might fly up.(😎safety first).
You can also use it the same way and walk on the grass but it must remain in the same flipped position I just explained.
I'll try to make a video and post it on Instagram the next time I cut and tag you so you can see.
Nice work Brian keep it up!
Brian, a thumbs up for you and subscribed. Thanks for the tips. Will follow them and will keep an eye out for your new videos. Be well and be healthy. Thanks.
Mostly Filipinos do that work in Hawaii and they charge about $85 every time they come out. A crew of three will hit about 70 yards a day.
$85?,three guys 70 yards a day? So your telling me their almost six grand a day? Somethings not right. A 12 hour work day that’s 10 minutes a yard. No one is paying $85 for 10 minutes of work or 30 minutes of work by three people.
There are other factors in edging too. Like, being left handed versus right. How you hold the trimmer. I don't like to walk on the grass, foot step marks, plus chance of stepping in a hole etc. I like walking on sidewalk myself.
If there is a hole, it needs to be filled/leveled
That is an awesome policy, never thought about doing that but makes perfect sense.
absolutely man. covers cost at least on labor when you're stuck doing it for an extra 15-30 minutes.
I used to do Lawn Service and you're absolutely right I like using an edger better than I do the string trimmer to do edging although I can do both
I suck at trimming with string. Just keeping it real.
Me too
It is definitely a practice thing...don't be too hard on yourself-it's just grass man-it will grow back and you get to practice again lol
Try different handgrip positions and walking forward or backwards...left to right... eventually you will be able to do it any which way...but find you have some preferences...I prefer to go backwards-I find I get a more level/straight edge-just be very careful about trip hazards and what is around you-forwards is safer for sure
Me too 😂😂😂
@@kirkthebeerslinger Or, and this might sound crazy, but hear me out, you could just buy the edger and have it look perfect the first time.
You have to get the right angle and practice. I find standing in the grass with the trimmer upside works the best.
I like red max the equipment always starts up right away
I agree with your business ethics❣ am the same way I have a cleaning service . Thank you for the tips I do my own yard now trying to learn ways to make my life easier and get the job done right. Take care stay safe and healthy!
Very good info - I learnt a lot.
Many thanks.
Going a little too fast with that trimmer if you slow down you can have way more control i can use a trimmer and it looks just like your edger line
Been doing landscaping for about 7 years, started at 13 years old and was taught to not made a wide gap between lawn and concrete, walk in the concrete if you want straight lines. The edging in my opinion looks ugly... but good job.
why? out of curiosity. Mosquitos?
Great instructional video!!! I haven’t watched this for a long time but revisiting it I picked up some additional information 👍
Thanks for sharing 🥇
The video on edging. I just did a yard and it took me a hour plus. 28 degrees and windy, the yard was a double lot and there was side walk in the back yard. One more week tell we shut down for the winter. But watching these videos has me looking ford to next year, thanks I’ll need to get one of those t-shirts too
My third time watching this and I don’t even mow my lawn 😂
Lol
I’ll do it for you hahah
Liked the video. Do you have any videos on edging flower beds. This is my biggest problem. Thanks
Naht sorry, but I'll see what I can do
Sounds Great Thanks
That first cut im the spring, edger. After that nice crisp deep template is made i used the trimmer the rest of the mow season
Tried edging with the trimmer the way you do it. Did not take long to adobt. No debris flying at me. Works great. Will keep it that way.
Hendrik Jürgens awesome!
Hey brian, important note for you and your viewers coming from a fellow lawn specialist. You should actually never try to create edges with anything besides a metal bladed edger. Allow me to explain:
Grass needs to experience a true and clean cut in order to maintain its health. Weed wackers are meant to be used parallel to the grass.. and using it diagonal or vertical actually does not cut the grass at all but in fact TEARS it. When grass blades are torn, this causes stress on that area of grass. And when grass becomes stressed it becomes more susceptible to being taken over by weeds. As we all know, edges are the worst for weeds anyways so i would recommend either use a metal bladed edger or just leave it alone
What brand do you recommend?
So how is a blade any different as this is cutting in a vertical plane too. If anything, you can bevel the Strimmer cord 15 deg or so off vertical. You can't with a blade.
@@Saxondog give him time, he's still writing his response
Edger is the way to go here in miami Costurmers like the edger better i have had several Costurmers fire there lawn guy cause of always breaking there windows with the trimmer edging and hitting there cars its very risky and if you hit someone with a rock forget it i can't take that liability risk edgers are much safer and also faster thanks for your video.
Victor Rippe don’t take off the cover then.. the 14 years done lawns never hit anything.
If you use an edger (and a trimmer) properly and contentiously, your degree of damage/risk is minimal. Not to mention, if you are in this business and you don't have $500K to $1M liability insurance, you're playing with fire in this legal climate we have in the USA. $500K to $1M liability coverage isn't as expensive as you may think, assuming you already have a solid customer base with seasonal/annual contracts. You are using power equipment around homes, cars and people. Liability insurance is necessary.
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You’re in southern Florida my guy!! You’d be crazy not to have edgers on deck
Great vid Brian thanks for the info. keep up the good work.
I always edge with the string trimmer walking forward & barely tapping on the gas so debris dont fly anywhere , you just have to be careful & watch your self, much love from Naples,Florida
You edged with weed whacker the wrong way. Try it walking backwards. Feet on concrete. Debri fly's the other way and it fits and goes in the groove where previous edge is
Dan Yesenko I walk backwards grass side. Works best for me!
I walk backwards as well. Walking forward makes it slower. For me.
Whether debris flies toward you or away from you has nothing to do with what direction you walk, it's all about what side of the trimmer head you use to trim. For a straight shaft, if you want debris to fly away from you, you have to trim using the the right half of the trimmer head as the debris will fly to the front-right/ front. If you use the left side of the head the debris will fly mostly to the back toward the user. For a curved shaft this would be the reverse of the above since the trimmer head rotates in the opposite direction.
I always walk on concrete so I can see my edge better but I also hold my weed eater up higher so I get a better lockdown.
Well you’re both wrong. You walk on the sidewalk in the same direction he was and you hold the whip out in front. Just the same as you would with an edger. It isn’t so bad if you’re a man. I agree an edger will do the best, quickest job and be the easiest to operate.
I just love edging. What’s this about grass?
Love the string trimmer edging skills. Well done my friend!
Been waiting for a high quality video on this topic from Brian's Lawn Maintenance!
Tboy The Rapper me too 😂
You'll never edge well with a trimmer using that technique. Flip it up, with the engine near your shoulder and walk backwards so you can see exactly where your line is and the debris flies away from you. This is why you need an edger.
Always walk the direction the string is guiding, no weird wobbles and u won't be fighting the string that way. Idk just how I learned it
Paul Blaser You are 100% correct. I can edge better with a weed whacker than most can with an edger because of the exact same method you mentioned. I’ve been using that technique for the past 20 years and has never failed me.
Wow never seen that technique before. Even with the trimmer being so easy Brian you use the opposite technique and don't go across your body. That was something to see.
flipping it is good... but i think it would wear on the shaft more, especially if you don't pay attention to the fuel
I always do that since I don't mow a lot of houses with sidewalks, it works perfect for beds. But the edger is a bit quicker and more dummy proof.
Anyone else get satisfaction out of hearing this trimmer line hit the grass and concrete? Or is it me just getting old?
I personally believe and have been taught through the years that if you have to use a stick edger never on a paver driveway and only whip Edge the corners so that you don't bang the edger blade. And bend it then deal with those vibrations.
I just asked this question yesterday. I’m not good at edging. I use a string trimmer. Great tips. Saving for an actual edger
I think the edger does a better job at creating a trench between the sidewalk and the grass/soil. A trimmer is not built to move dirt.
Subtiles when he starts edger: Oh..... Oh.. Oh.....Oh......[applause]......
Lol!
That's funny
Damn dude that stick edger kicks ass!! Nice job! I'm no professional and don't have that much sidewalk. I use an EGO string trimmer to edge, but am now thinking of getting another with a changeable bottom half so i could edge better. You make it look easy!
Fine for a clean up. Nothing beats a three wheeler with a blade. Especially beginning of the season. I like to back up and kick the dirt out. Nice deep groove.
i've never herd of charging extra for edging thats insane wow
Hugo Garcia Grind out one that's 4" overgrown and you'll start charging!
Hugo, it depends on the market. Maybe in your market people will not pay for such things. Every town and area is different.
You gotta get creative with the charging if u want to grow
There’s no way he never heard of charging for edging. Getting an over grown edge is harder than cutting the whole yard lol. Them over grown sidewalks ain’t no joke. And you got a mess to clean up too.
Hugo Garcia You must be one of the guys that gives away work wow
You must get free equipment
I have all asphalt around my lawn so the stick edger would eat it up. They weren't too consistent with the straightness of the road and driveway lol
Grass Daddy you only edge with concrete! No pavers and no asphalt
I suppose the only way around that would be to pour low concrete curb between the grass and the asphalt driveway so you can have nicely edged lawn around the driveway. If you have an equipment rental place around your area, they might have a curb making machine (whatever you call them).
Ooooh that’s the worst, edging on an asphalt drive way, too painful lol
You’re great! Thanks for this video. I learned a lot!!
Hey my friend I just saw the edging video and I want to say that I use a stick edger on every single yard every single time it takes me under 2 to 3 minutes per house to use the stick edger every time Yes you have to buy some blades more often but you get that consistent look every time. I do like the idea of charging $25 for the first time house that hasn't had an edge done because you're right you get a lot of grass you have to take out of the equation however I don't rake or bag any of it. After I get done edging all the grass inside out of the sidewalk I take my back but all into the lawn and then I just take my ex mark zero turn and it shreds it to pieces and no one is the wiser and it saves me a bunch of time on clean up and I don't have any debris to remove away.
Edger all day every day, my best selling point is using a trimmer puts unnecessary strain on your back since you have to contort your back in an abnormal position. The edger just lay and walk straight. Great video however.
Guy Six great point I agree
The edger promotes weed germination especially in the hot summer months so get that q4 plus ready after using it , the string trimmer is a better option imo
weeds pop up due to an improperly kept property, fertilizer, insecticide, ect
As Brian's client that has cut, trim and blow service, I did my own edging of about 40 ft of driveway recently that was not to grown over with dirt and grass, but being relatively skilled with a trimmer, It still took me 20 mins or more to get a clean edge, a inch or so down through the dirt with a string trimmer of 0.105, with a a face full of terra firma, and a ton of line. Next time I'm adding it to my service.
That's awesome lol. Thx for the support Dan!
Great video, as a home user and not a pro I've just never been able to justify another piece of equipment for edging so have just used my Echo trimmer. Upgraded late last year to putting that edge it disc on there and that has helped a good bit but definitely never get those perfect edges. Always wind up wavy no matter how much I focus on it.
Question about the point at the end, inside and opposite way. Not sure what that means. I suspect I'm probably doing the exact opposite, I cut from sidewalk and usually in the opposite direction that you were going.
Also one thing that has helped me with my thick St Aug lawn when some runners start poking out along the edge is I'll make a pass at 45 degrees hitting the line where the sidewalk and grass meet, then go back with a 90 degree pass for my edging. Helps to pre cut some of the clumps or thicker stuff that managed to creep out on me.
Juncti yup. I do that too, the 45 cut. And I trim from the grass side. Ie, I walk the grass. Usually forward but backwards seems to pull it back and make it smoother/squared off
Shimmied my way into a groovy new nike swoosh today, be very careful!
Use the eager, no wobble wheels, please, lose customers that way
Good luck to all.
About to rip that gearbox up if you don’t use that wheel like you should
wheels are for sissies
@@stanleywolford1349 I took your advice. My car won't move without them. 😕
Impressed brother GOD BLESS your Business !! Love the vid
Thank you!
Awesome. Thanks. I was one of the ones that requested this vid
russell crase thanks for the suggestion! Keep em coming! Who's your favorite lawn care CZcamsr lol
If you charge $25 to get the edge back in shape, then I would prefer you to get it right the first time by using the stick edger according to the yard that you say was overgrown.
I put wd40 on my edger guards so that grass doesn't stick very much 👍👍
Smart
Pam as well
That’s what nascar does
For brake dust
As a professional (not in the lawn care business) I agree with you 100%. You gotta use the right tools to do your job right, it makes life easier, saves you time and possibly a headache (if anything goes wrong), you are charging for it anyways you aren't doing it for free.
When I edge with a trimmer I put the trimmer straight vertical and walk it down the straight line, comes out alot better then how you were holding it
I'll stIck with a WALK BEHIND EDGER! it may be a little slower but it gives the very best edge PERIOD!!! and it's easy on the body
Bro if you edge with the trimmer standing on the sidewalk, it works alot easier and better
Helps to keep a guide line because you are not blind to the cut
Good info, thank you Brian!
Thank you for the great content and the advice man!