Simple vs Complex Pale Ale

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  • čas přidán 8. 11. 2021
  • Caleb Whitenack from @psychdocbrewery and I teamed up to brew two pale ales. One as a SMaSH beer ands the other with as complicated recipe as we could come up with. Were the extra grains worth it?
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    SIMPLE RECIPE (3 GALLONS)
    6 lbs 4.0 oz Maris Otter
    0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min
    0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min
    2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 min
    1.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056)
    COMPLEX RECIPE (5 GALLONS)
    7 lbs 8.0 oz 2-row American Pale Malt
    6.0 oz Biscuit Malt
    6.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L
    6.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L
    6.0 oz Carared
    6.0 oz Munich Malt - 20L
    6.0 oz Special Roast
    3.0 oz Acid Malt
    3.0 oz Carapils
    0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min
    0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min
    1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 min
    0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 min
    0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 min
    1.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056)
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Komentáře • 78

  • @Unsub-Me-Now
    @Unsub-Me-Now Před 2 lety +18

    I like that concept! Same style different level of complexity. We need more content like this!

    • @TheHomebrewChallenge
      @TheHomebrewChallenge  Před 2 lety

      Thanks!

    • @larryrhoe2835
      @larryrhoe2835 Před 2 lety +3

      Not the same style. One is an amber. The other is a smash beer.

    • @luukkaah2119
      @luukkaah2119 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes retry this concept but now keep the same style, to really compare the grains or the hops, but not both...

  • @Frank-the-Tank-13
    @Frank-the-Tank-13 Před 2 lety +4

    I’m thinking different grains same hops and hop schedule would show the difference.

  • @TyinAlaska
    @TyinAlaska Před 2 lety +2

    I would love to see this as a series.

  • @matthewnorth5523
    @matthewnorth5523 Před 2 lety +2

    "Even though I'm on the road, I've still got the whisk." I love your querks Martin.

  • @bobhinley5410
    @bobhinley5410 Před 2 lety +5

    I’m surprised both of you were surprised by the beers differences. The complex recipe has crystal 20L, 80L, Munich 20L and special roast. Darker malts. Smash beers are always less complex. But do provide the brewer benefits in isolating flavors. I’m sure it was fun brewing them.

  • @Styv93
    @Styv93 Před 2 lety +7

    Keep it simple! The best and most drinkable beers I have been making were all SMaSH =)

  • @iliffavenuebrewhouse6496
    @iliffavenuebrewhouse6496 Před 2 lety +4

    I wish you would have tried to make similar beers; one simple and one complex. Great vid!

  • @Kveiksmithdaryl
    @Kveiksmithdaryl Před 2 lety

    Love this experiment! I always end up finding my simplest beers my favourite ones, all my best brews have been SMaSHs!

  • @NikitaVorontsov
    @NikitaVorontsov Před 2 lety +1

    The tulip glass looks exceptional. Almost like a Teku! Big fan of simple beers and agree with you there on the choices of when to drink which!

  • @elproducto2340
    @elproducto2340 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video lads.

  • @Jango1989
    @Jango1989 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video!
    Definitely one to point newer brewers to.

  • @Abbynorml1979
    @Abbynorml1979 Před 2 lety +4

    What I want to know is how home brewers can stay so thin? Something ain't right (not talking about my dietary choices).

    • @CM-ef8fu
      @CM-ef8fu Před 2 lety +1

      Important question indeed! Xd

    • @CM-ef8fu
      @CM-ef8fu Před 2 lety

      Important question indeed xd

  • @Kaesekuchen002
    @Kaesekuchen002 Před 2 lety +1

    I like this comparison style video a lot. Also Caleb seems to be a really nice guy. Would like to see more content with him.

  • @normlang1994
    @normlang1994 Před 2 lety +1

    No one would look at these two beers and think they had anything in common. Another great "experiment" Martin!

    • @jakedethierful
      @jakedethierful Před 2 lety

      I mean they really don't have anything in common different brew system, different mash bill, different hops, likely a different fermenter and conditions, and we only got yeast details from the complex beer.

  • @sharpie6953
    @sharpie6953 Před 2 lety +1

    Great vid. I've been making my "Castennook" APA for a few years now, using cascade, centennial & chinook. It's a combination that works really well.

  • @fagerholmjimmy
    @fagerholmjimmy Před 2 lety

    Awesome concept! Looking forward to a dark beer "simple vs complex" ;)

  • @jonybakery1
    @jonybakery1 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey. I really enjoy your videos. By any chance do you have any content on the equipment you use? Currently I am bottling all of my home brews. I am looking to start using kegs with CO2 but have no clue where to start!

  • @fabriziodifazio8439
    @fabriziodifazio8439 Před 2 lety

    Combine the simple grain bill with the complex hop schedule, and you'll have a banging pale ale.

  • @jabroni982
    @jabroni982 Před 2 lety +3

    Both of those beers look fantastic. I'm having a hard time finding Maris Otter and settled for a 55lb bag of golden promise aswell as a 55lb bag of 2 row. I've been waking up and just coming up with recepies while my water is coming to mash temp and loving it. Did a golden promise, Amarillo SMASH beer recently and it reminds me of this video.

    • @TheHomebrewChallenge
      @TheHomebrewChallenge  Před 2 lety +1

      Haha, when I started to get grain storage at home, that was my dream. To just wake up and randomly come up with a recipe to brew there and then.

  • @noodle845
    @noodle845 Před 2 lety

    Nice video. Do you find using a hop spider inhibits the proper infusion from the hop?

  • @brotherjohn2002
    @brotherjohn2002 Před 2 lety +4

    Cool video. Cool idea. But I think the "complex" beer grain bill was well outside of the pale ale realm. You could have kept it complex but kept it in the pale ale realm (2 row/vienna mox, biscut malt, oats or rye, and some honey malt). Still a rediculous amount of malt but would have stayed in the realm of pale ale.
    That said fun video as ever. Thank you sir.

  • @TheAlchemistsBrewery
    @TheAlchemistsBrewery Před 2 lety +2

    The simpler, the better

  • @llambibazi3675
    @llambibazi3675 Před 2 lety

    Mi piace molto bravo

  • @Buckie93
    @Buckie93 Před 2 lety +1

    My friend and I made a beer like that complex one once, anything that was in the brew tub that was open (leftovers from previous brews) grains hops etc threw it all in. Turned out really good so we called it the kitchen sink because God knows what went in it 😅.

  • @brewtaldeafmedal1262
    @brewtaldeafmedal1262 Před 2 lety

    he had to say he was a psychiatrist in the first 20 seconds lmaoooooo

  • @stevendavis6561
    @stevendavis6561 Před 2 lety +1

    Maybe try same recipe but different mash techniques like single infusion vs decoction vs turbid. Not to many videos out there on that. The book American Sour Beer has good info on all of them

  • @Dilfed
    @Dilfed Před 2 lety

    Legit made the same SMaSH as my first brew, it is bottle conditioning at the moment and should be ready this weekend. I cracked one open for a gravity ready and tasted it and it's already quite delicious just obviously lacking some carbonation.

  • @brennanedwards9582
    @brennanedwards9582 Před 2 lety +1

    Another great vid Martin! Where did you get your whisk from?

  • @GraveysBrewery
    @GraveysBrewery Před 2 lety +2

    Both beers looked really good, but just for my own personal taste, I think I'd prefer to brew the simple version more. That said, rather than just have a straight SMaSH beer, I'd be inclined to add a little bit of Carapils to give my beer that little bit extra in body.
    Great video Martin, I'd love to see you do more of these kinds of videos.

  • @kg49er
    @kg49er Před 2 lety

    How would you compare the complex one to an amber ale?

  • @ScottBass86
    @ScottBass86 Před 2 lety +1

    Cool video, I would be interested to see more side by side comparions but less drastic changes maybe. Like, a traditional hop schedule compared to just hops after the boil, or pressure vs none etc.

    • @TheHomebrewChallenge
      @TheHomebrewChallenge  Před 2 lety

      I’m really enjoying these comparisons and yeah those would be good to test.

  • @brewsclues5902
    @brewsclues5902 Před 2 lety

    What is the chugability difference?

  • @mrow7598
    @mrow7598 Před 2 lety

    I would have kept the same type of hops between the beers. That way they'd be closer to each other.

  • @ScullyBrewing
    @ScullyBrewing Před 2 lety +1

    It would be good to do this same style but with just different hop and same malt. Or vice versa

  • @stevemorris8545
    @stevemorris8545 Před 2 lety

    Some of my most enjoyable beers (both brew day and drinking day) have been SMASHs. There's something to be said in the beauty of simplicity sometimes.

  • @shawnmacgavin9774
    @shawnmacgavin9774 Před 2 lety +1

    I was wondering what @psychdocbrewery beer finished at. Martin mentioned his final gravity but you guys skipped over the other beer's FG.

  • @graykilpatrick1319
    @graykilpatrick1319 Před 9 měsíci

    I would've reached fir berr # 2

  • @JohnnyReverse
    @JohnnyReverse Před 2 lety +3

    how many times ya think the psych doc has hit his head on that range?

  • @Matthewbraaten
    @Matthewbraaten Před 2 lety +2

    Sooo the complex one is not a pale ale? It looks more like an amber or red.

  • @RidesWithAnthony
    @RidesWithAnthony Před 2 lety +1

    The non-verbal ques say everything.

  • @ashleythomas1131
    @ashleythomas1131 Před 9 měsíci

    There not the beer in anyway, please explain how they are

  • @TheAlchemistsBrewery
    @TheAlchemistsBrewery Před 2 lety +2

    American Pale Ale should be something like base malt, 5% light crystal malt (or US caramel malt) and a C hop. That's it!

  • @slavanazy
    @slavanazy Před 2 lety

    Chennal бир энд бир...subskride

  • @Weezulguy
    @Weezulguy Před rokem

    Simple FTW just cause hipstersSAWK

  • @nikolab22
    @nikolab22 Před 2 lety +4

    First

    • @ivanbravic5421
      @ivanbravic5421 Před 2 lety +1

      Đes poletio Nikola 🤣

    • @nikolab22
      @nikolab22 Před 2 lety

      @@ivanbravic5421 hahaha izbacilo mi, a taman na mobu bija

  • @larryrhoe2835
    @larryrhoe2835 Před 2 lety

    A smash beer and a beer with way too many grain types. “ It’s astonishingly different. Probably the stupidest comment I have ever heard. “