Eddie Hall reveals SECRETS to building CRAZY SHOULDER POWER
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2023
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this man was built different. nobody else at the top trains like this😅
literally IS built different - he does have an advantageous genetic building block that allows for less restricted muscle growth.
Sumo wrestlers in japan weighing in 300+ kg
@@jeremymuir4332If Eddie has that then other strongmen also have it. Eddie did not have more muscle than some of the top guys now.
@@stokiemanbrent4200 The elite strongmen are all anomalies... but not all of them have this genetic coding. It's an ancestral Scandinavian trait.
Was? This absolute beast of a man is walking around rn in peak form
120 Kilo each arm is fucking unreal
It was not each arm. 60kg each dumbell x 2 = 120 kg. But 120kg each arm sounds harder
@@jebudylajtwejt8051 he literally says 120kg each arm are you deaf 😅
Unless you take gear... Then its not so unreal
@@joshjackson2295still unreal, he held the axle press WR at one point. So compared to other steroid users he’s still got top 5 strongest shoulders ever
@@ronnana694 and yet, if he was never on steroids would he have got even half that number... Definitely not. Just takes it away from the achievements that most of his strength was paid for in steroids. Who knows what he would have lifted without them
The secret is half a family cheesecake, and a litre of cranberry juice.
And being severely severely severely... Dehydrated
Why would he be dehydrated he’s a strongman not a bodybuilder
Tart combo.
@@Kyle-cq7ilyou obviously don't watch Eddie Halls channel then lol
U missed the comma after "half a family "
I'm doing 42kg dumbbells seated overhead for 8 reps x3 and feel quite strong. Eddie can do fucking 60kg for 40 to 50 reps in one set, absolute unit of a man he is
Nah man u also strong af
I can do a max of 16kgs 12 reps 😢😢😢
42 for 8 reps is hella impressive mate! Keep it up, I’m doing 36 for10-12 reps 3 times then then like a burnout set of 15 reps ish with 30’s a year ago I could hardly do 25’s so I’m happy with the progress so far! 👍👍
@@Ahmad-ug9qs Just keeping working at it my man, keep doing what you're doing then every so often go a bit heavier for less reps
@@danfrith924 Nice one man, you've definitely got a minimum of the 40s in you, as I pyramid up I do about the same with 36s so you should give it a go, thats fast progress as well I have to say
120kg in each hand for an over shoulder press is uncomprendable I'm a big lad and at my best I was doing it with 50kgs for 3 sets of 12 which was a lot better than most of the other lads in the gym so to imagine what Eddie was doing is just fucking mental he really did have the strongest shoulders on earth
That's great bro, but don't compare yourself to the strongest men in the world and do ur best 👍
He really was the strongest man ever.
We all caught that sneaky flex there 😂 respect though 50s are serious
50kg already puts you in top 2 to 5/‰ of men
@@davidc4408 ur being generous. Ohp w 50kg dbells is something 99.something% of the male population cant do
when Eddie hall won world strongest man they was nobody on his level and when he picked up 500kg that's insane legend is Eddie hall
Beat thor by half a point
@@stani6024still won
@keepingkey3912 he said no1 was on his level. Big Z shaw and thor have all won more trophies
@@stani6024 and that’s a completely different conversation
Big z and shaw have 4 titles each
People on comment section saying shit about someone who has the strongest shoulders ever
Maybe the idiots don't realize 120kilos is 260lbs.
Just because someone is strong or has a good physique, doesn’t mean they know everything, and it doesn’t mean they’re training the most efficiently. Usain Bolt’s coach can’t run very fast, never competed. You think he knows less about training than some 18 year old who can run fast? Eddie might have even found the perfect rep range for him, but doesn’t mean established sport science is suddenly wrong.
Yes the guy is gifted . But you can t imagine the amount of work to achieve what he already did .
Steroids help alot with that...Full ROM is better than 3/4 of a rep, the studies and research has been done. With full ROM he could get the same amount of hypertrophy and strength gains with half the amount of reps.
Do you wanma be a strongman or wanna get stronger?
If you wanna be a strongman like him, it might be a good way, shorter muscles are not a problem if youre a strongman, and are that short
But if youre an athletic guy with long limbs who likes to be flexible and keep his full range of motion, this is not a good way to train "in my opinion"
Eddie is one of the strongest humans to have ever walked the earth in static strength.
Very true
2017 Eddie hall was genuinely the strongest man to ever grace the planet, the 216kg axel press, the 500kg deadlift, the amount of presses he could do was inhumane
Big Z is the strongest man to ever walk the 🌎
@@charles-mp9nt Eddie was stronger than Z statically
@@Agnes135 🤣🤣 that's funny Eddie never even made the podium at the Arnold Classic which is the heaviest competition they have hell they had to bring in a lighter log because nobody else including Eddie could lift the big log but Big Z for 2 years in a row and everytime they went head to head Big Z always won
How can you sit there and look at him repping a heavyweight boxer on each arm and say ‘you’re not doing that right’
That's the right way to do it it keeps tension and the muscle gets stronger because rhey are harder reps
60kg isn't a heavyweight boxer u fool 😂
@@Henson-xl3qvhe said 120kg each arm was his peak…. That’s heavy weight
@@Henson-xl3qvin fact In boxing that’s nearly 30kg more then what’s classed as a super heavy weight
@@BasedAlfredbased
Mountain dog and West Side barbell.
So much knowledge on the benefit of partials.
Eddie is a monster
Tbf his partials are still about 90% or more of a full rep, he's just not locking out or resting at either end.
RIP mountain dog , he is legend!❤
@@jotarokujo3603tbh he probably can't even do "full ROM" because he's so goddamn big.
If you do a weight this light, the resistance of the movement at the top and bottom are probably actually useless.
However, if you do anything in the 6-15 rep range, the top and bottom are NOT "relaxing". You still have tension in your muscles, and honestly, even if you relax, this isn't a conoetetivensetting where reps need to be legit, you are trying to become stronger, and if you can do an additional 3 reps because you did a small break at the top of your movement, that's perfectly legit.
You can’t mention West Side Barbell Club and leave out the man behind it, Bill ‘Peanuts’ West. A real legend in lifting history and dubbed the Godfather of Powerlifting.
Time under tension is the expression you're looking for my man
Debunked tho
@@vandidovanno it hasn't
@@vandidovanliterally where? Like please I beg, show me a study or a meta analysis. You can't just throw stupid baseless claims around.
one of the most important things out there actually@@vandidovan
@@vandidovanStupidity loves speaking the loudest
this strenght is actually unbelievable for me..
i'm training for 5 years now.. and i will never even come close to that.. really insane
Gain 100lbs and see what happens bro
you can't naturally reach his level, and even with steroids, it's pretty damn hard.
@@diobrando7642there is no steroid in the world that would take average lifter to his lvl ever. You need to have the genetic base from the begining.
U need genetics and gear getting fat won't make u strong
Take a shitload of 'roids as he does and youl'll get there too.
keep in mind; this man reached 400kg+ deadlift without a structured program
Literally bro. He got to 420kg simply deadlifting every week 😭. I genuinely believe Eddie Hall in 2016-2017 was the strongest person to ever walk the earth
@@dantemorales2493Big Z is the strongest man to ever live. His stats are insane, not to mention his peak was 15 years lol
That says a lot about his talent, and explains his bad training advice.
"When they say what's the point I say well, there's lotsa points."
If you've seen the video of his axel press at giants live, where he doesn't use any legs and all upper body, this makes total sense.
I gotta try that soon. I wanna see how many reps I can get in at 50% but I’m already pretty sure I don’t come near 40 reps
Yeah much harder than you’d think haha
Whatever you can press for 8 reps clean half that weight and you can easily get 40-50 reps after a few sessions as it takes time to adapt
How many sets?
That's INSANE strength, right there!
The shoulders are posture muscles. They need a lot more volume than some other muscles to grow. So I could totally see this being a good way to train them.
Is there any research on that?
@@quitchemmy y do u need research, go try it for yo shelf
50 reps is Excessive.
I mean, obviously it's going to do something, but I don't think you will develop a lot of explosive strength through that training.
The reason it works so well for him, is probably that he is using PEDs.
If you use PEDs, than any stimulus will lead to WAY more muscle grow than it would naturally. That's why people get huge traps and shoulder. Just doing Bizeps curls or anything else with your arms automatically loads the upper back muscle a LITTLE BIT, but that stress is enough for your body to build muscle there.
@carlpanzram7081 yeah I probably wouldn't go that far. But higher frequency than some other muscle groups, id def do that.
@@quitchemmyit’s repeated and accepted that slow twitch muscle fibers grow more from high reps. Haven’t read anything on it but I know calves get used 24-7 by the body for walking and they seem to respond better to high reps in my training and from seeing people grow big calves through running.
Wether that applies to shoulders is a different story. Everything is a fckin posture muscle. Back, core, glutes. For me I go as heavy as I can where the weight doesn’t negatively impact going to failure and maintaining acceptable form. Which sometimes isn’t heavy especially if my shoulders are being clicky and weird. But no reason to do 50 reps like Eddie. That’s cardio. If you can handle 60 pounds perfectly there’s no reason to do 50 pounds
Extremely motivating! I already worked out today but this makes me want to dive back in.
Time under tension builds muscle
This guy casually did 60kg dumbbell presses for 50 reps because it was half his max weight while I struggle to do 10 reps with 30kg.
What an absolute unit.
Bro shoulder presses double what I can only dumbbell row for 8 and he does its so much easier wtf😂
My rowing coach had us do this but for squats back in high school. Pretty cool to hear someone using the technique at the highest level
Strong man using bodybuilding technique. Respect, my routine is actually a mixture of both bodybuilding and power lifting
Eddie is so strong that every time I hear him tall about his stats I feel like he is lying... my mind just can't comprehend
And yet he is telling the truth. He is not normal. He is superhuman.
His PBs aren't overly different from any other top level strongman...infact several are lower.
Doesn't seem humanly possible.
TUT- Time Under Tension 💪🏼
Apparently such a simple and easily observable phenomenon is "bro science" now.
when eddie says "when I was at me peak" we actually believe
Eddie using that bro science
Muscle building is more mental than physical
He's explaining in layman's terms long length partials. Time under tension
It's not bro science you muppet
He using what feels good for him. Which is a value of its own. Avoiding the very top and bottom of the press to keep constant tension on the muscle is a solid reason. 50 reps is excessive though.
and when it comes to strength training, a lot of bro science is better than stuff coming out of research studies. You have decades of actual experimentation and observation vs things like "6 average trained individuals doing one exercise, 3 times a week over 4 weeks and we concluded.... blah blah blah" I'm not saying follow bro science blindly, but a lot of bro science basically says, track what you're doing, measure what the result is, and if you're not getting the desired result, change things up. Rinse and repeat. Which is pretty much what science is about.
270 pound dumbell shoulder press is unbelievably
Unbelievably what?
@@MadSupra354 *ble
I agree, it's unbelievably.
I didn't believe in constant tension, and was a full ROM twat, but then - after another three month hypertrophy block failed to build biceps yet again - I tried it, and it's changed the game for me.
Time under tension is golden🙌
Different reps for different purposes. There’s no “wrong” or “right” way to do something, but people pretend like there is. Well, they’re might be some bad ways 😅 but there’s lots of different ways to do something
Always context dependant 🤷♂️ Strength is RoM specific, stretch under load (full depth) is probably the most power stimulus for hypertrophy.
However with the amount of reps he's doing, this is pretty much an endurance application so fuck it 😆
It's definitely is not responsible for "power" as he claims though but, then again, a lot of people misuse the word.
Eddie has a lot of dumb bro science explanations unfortunately.
Well that's true for everything.
Why Listen to Eddie when it comes to strength training, what does he know?😂
lol
Apparently not a whole lot. Although absolutely an integral part of his overall training, this is not where his power came from.
@@SmokePurp305 So where did it come from?
@Tobias Reaper The short answer is it's going to probably be from the 85%-95% area with rep and set ranges varying between 5x5, 5x3, 3x5, 4x5, 5,3,1's, 5x1, 3x1 etc.
@@SmokePurp305 Then you might be surprised to find out he never trained like that. But Eddie was unusual in many ways. True freak athlete.
He does my weekly volume in one set.
Imagine what he can do when he’s hydrated
Thank you!!!! All the big, strong guys don't do "full range of motion." Keep tension on the muscles and rep it. Hell yeah BEAST. Set the record straight.
that promotes fatigue more than tension. Tension is the biggest at the complete bottom. It's still a way to train that brings variety, but it is not superior to full rom reps, per se, unless you have some sort of physical impairment. Not locking or fully stretching at the bottom makes you lift more and not stimulate your soft tissues as much, which is not exactly good if done the majority if the sets
I feel like people are largely mistaking what he just talked about, which is still extremely close to the full rep, with people who lift more than they actually can and just can't complete the exercise.
This dude is just avoiding any chance to rest but still does 99% of the rep. He can also absolutely complete the rep.
When people complain about partial reps this is not what they're complaining about, they're talking about ego lifters who can't finish what they start.
Plus unless your spending a lot of time stretching, your gonna rip you shoulders on max weight doing full rep.
no you wont lmao
This is wrong.
Good advice for tall guy's love it, thanks!
Him: "don't do a full rep so that you can't rest"
Meanwhile the video in the background showing him resting between reps
Your reps are perfect Eddie, time under tension is a major concept and your range of motion was correct. Great job.
Usually when I hear some CZcams guy giving advice on how to train I take it with a grain of salt. But with Eddy, you know it's no BS
Eddie's bro science coming in strong. Obviously it worked a treat for him, he's an absolute specimen and inspiration. But my god does he talk some nonsense ❤
the nonsense that earns world records, yep
@friedchicken4326 A bad driver will still win the race if he is driving a F1 car on a straight road when the rest are driving Hyundai i10s.
Its quite easy to understand. I also knee a dude in my teens who never lifted but looked jacked. He looked like a mens health cover model year out without training while eating a ton of shit the whole day. He kept this body until around 28-30s. Thats when the fat began to creep up on him. What im trying to say is, we are not all the same. Some of us have incredible genetics and gain a ton of strength and muscle while looking at a dumbell. Doesnt mean we have to adapt their style of training. I found out for myself that i need more recovery then others so i went down from 4-5 days to 2-3 days of lifting in a week. This man is a unicorn no doubt. But i wouldnt recommend what he said
@@user-cp1nr9ob5w I feel like I was following the premise, Friedchickens argument involved using Eddie's accomplishments as proof, I highlighted that being a genetic specimin helped him overcome his somewhat lacking methodology.
Analogies are normally used in discussions and I feel like mine was used aptly.
@@Undercover1987whats wrong with 40-50 reps?
He talks like he’s an 80 year old grandpa reading a story of his young days to his grandkids
Time Under Tension was a very crucial rule I learned from my HS FB coach. He played for the Texas Oilers. Old hard bastard name Brewington.
Gives Off some great advice it working for me I’m 55 training 3 times a week and making progress thanks eddie
well, I certainly hope that his heart muscle is just as strong.
ofc it is wdym
heart day everyday
@@Sangiu6142 bro do you know how much steroids he takes?
And also saving your joints and tendons
it does the opposite but nice try
Imagine how much he could do fully hydrated
Nice one “ will follow that advice
Actually fully extending a shoulder press uses way more triceps than delts. He's doing it the correct way for muscle building and strength.
Most I ever did was 50kg for 8 when I was 18
Yes, these muppets in the comments calling it "bro science" have no idea what they're talking about
I think most normal mortals should just do a full ROM in most cases lol, Eddie is a genetically gifted elite freak of nature that would probably get stronger shoulders than 99% of lifters just sitting on the toilet bowl lol. The man didn't plateau on deadlifts until he was north of 900 lbs.
And tons of steroids
Hall and Shaw are BAD Ass funny cool. Amazing power!!!
That strength is hard to comprehend.
Because it's harder to lift from "resting" position when doing full movement than from limited range movement
Here in lies the issue: people take advice from the genetically gifted and ignore the science.
Well that's their fault for not realizing he's talking to other guys like him. He's giving tips for how to be a strongman. Bodybuilding is completely different.
Yeah trust the science 🤡 genetics have been over hyped for many years, that’s everyone’s excuse now.
Don't forget drugs ;)
What Eddie is saying makes perfect scientific sense though
@@RevZman No, it doesn't. Sets of 50 are not gonna improve power; strength is RoM specific; loaded stretch (the bottom bit he's cutting out) is the most powerful stimulus for growth. This'll improve his endurance and cause some growth, sure, but it's not particularly a great idea. Especially since he'd do this BEFORE his heavy log work which makes no sense.
I'm a big Eddie fan but he talks a lot shit when it comes to the rationale for his training methods.
He's a beast, a legendary strongman, and a great entertainer though.
I started doing this and applied it when using the machines at the gym, it WORKS 💪
Can’t argue with his results
I respect how he explained how they weren’t full reps
Remember people, Eddie is lifting for pure strength. Not aesthetics.
Bro science final boss 😂 Blud said 40-50 reps
That's actually great advice. I used to train with around 80 percent and go to almost failure with the last set with full reps. I hurt my shoulders a couple times from going to heavy or locking too fast and not focusing on form. This eliminates all of that risk.
why 'almost failure' and why only on last set? I do full failure on all sets.
Thanks
The evidence does not support this. What he was doing was endurance training. His power, came from other training practices he was implementing. Studies have also suggested he can get some good hypertrophy benefits with this type of structure, but its not the optimum way. The most efficient way of achieving hypertrophy seems to be 8-15 reps somewhere in the 75% of your 1rm range. Its not a power building structure. Also worth noting, the 5 rep range and over 20 rep range takes the longest to recover from. The best recovery also seems to take place in that 8-15 rep range with that 75ish percent load. Thats not my opinion, that is what science is suggesting based on recent studies.
The evidence your referring to is not about postural muscles though. So im not sure if it applies to the back of your shoulders.
@Mr Sensei Postural muscles, are the deep muscles in your abdomen, pelvis and back.
And how many of "those" people that have these "studies" has actually achieved a WSM title? LMAO, none of them!
The Science is Wrong 😂
Endurance is killing your gains!
@edwinprado5620 As you may know, a strongman can not just train like a power lifter. Strongman athletes need to be able to perform 1 rep Max's, speed reps, high reps, and endurance training. Without being a "Swiss army knife" of strength sports, they wouldn't get very far in most cases.
For hypertrophy this is not optimal, you need more time under tension
He’s doing 40-50 reps without any pause or rest. That’s all time under tension. Sure, if you did the same amount of reps at a slower pace you would have more time under tension, but if you’re banging out 50 reps like he’s doing that’s still more than enough time
Did anyone ask here about hypertrophy ?
Go relay the hypertrophy trash somewhere else pls. Stop giving bodybuilding advice on strongman forums.
Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. He just described TUT
Always felt more comfortable with the bar.
No one should ever question this mans tactics...
At your peak you could press 120kg easily? It either isn't your max or it wasn't easy. Can't have both.
He can
nerd emoji
he never said it was his maxx are you braindead dont try to make him sound dumb when you dont listen
he literally did 100kg dumbell for 7 reps
Easily 120kg, so might have even been more, not easy...
How he doesn’t get shoulder pain from pressing out 90 degrees like that I’ll never understand
Kevlar Tendons
You just have bad shoulder mobility
@@neal520 you're right. It shouldn't hurt to dumbbell press
Eddie maintained some tremendous shoulder mobility for his size after his swimming career
people don’t realize that if you train your shoulder mobility or any joints in your body for that matter, you can put a lot more stress on the than you think. healthy joints are strong joints
Good advice thanks
Time under tension
Bro i thought he was talking about chest when he said 120kg, but my man was doing my bench pr on shoulder press with dumbells on EACH HAND
Hes right. Time under tension
Fantastic advice!!!
Great advice Eddy thanks for this
I adopted this mentality in my calisthenics routine and I've never felt stronger
That's a proper way bro & no 1 tell to anyone same way in chest shoulder biceps even lags
I train for 12 years now but i cannot imagine heaving strength like that, absolutely unhumanlike
He said for strongman he's not talking for hypertrophy which is the goal of most of us
damn. the logic behind that lifting method makes so much sense I'm kinda pissed off I haven't figured this out on my own
Yep, time under tension 💪🏼
Good advice to hear, cheers matey..
Full range of motion is very important but time under tention without harming your joints is also very important to stay healthy
CONSTANT TENSION !!!
Time under tension baby
He is absolutely right, there is no need to do full range movement
You have to constantly work your muscles & keep mechanical tension which will put stress on muscles & recruit more & more motor units .
That,s how you grow
Time under tension - a point that many lifters miss.
Best shoulder gains I got was working a summer in a warehouse, carrying 10-20kg boxes overhead for a lot of the day. Went from doing 20's to 30-35's
Great advice
Thank You
Don’t think people understand the difference between fitness training strength training and bodybuilding or aesthetic training this dude is so much stronger then Arnold or any of them
And this is not optimal for any of them.
@@iamthemobey Phwa agreed their bodies are pushed to the max the heart risks alone
He’s definitely got that mad strength
This gives muscle endurance capabilities. A good technique to be utilized cyclically throughout the year
"mommy, can I👶 be a muscle🦍head when I grow up." "No👆son, u may not."
Suddenly
*Under Pressure by Queen starts to play*
gonna try this
Cheers Ed ill try it next
Great advice actually…..also avoids injury which kills gains
Big Eddie knows man
I dont like over muscles grow like that, but this man is exceptional. He build for it.
Tell me why I thought someone was about to touch the ends of two lightbulbs together at first 😂😂