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You are insane for even thinking these movements are for the average person wanting to get strong. Training like a power lifter is way better than doing clean and jerks. It’s better to train with control rather than this CrossFit horseshit. You promoting spine snapping at best.
To train like a fruit cake? I'll stick to powerlifting.
Train like a powerlifter enjoy yourself
Unless you’re a professional athlete, you should generally just train in a way that makes you happy
@@BGeezy4sheezyand only train like a athelete, if you're.. yk a professional athlete
@@BGeezy4sheezy Like you know. A powerlifter
Yea but training like a powerlifter is not good for longevity
@@emiribric4294 eh, depends on your training style. Many powerlifters train low RPE, very sustainable programs. many of them do lots of unsustainable high volume, high intensity programs. depends on the person really. Take a look at sheiko style programs. probably some of the most sustainable training out of ANY sport, let alone powerlifting, and it works great.
I sadly have to train like one because I am one 😢
Ok
😅
But that's ok!
Me too lol
Real😭
Garage strength: stop lifting, like powerlifters
Also garage strength: power snatches….
Me: ah so Olympic lifts 😂
powerlifting and olympic weightlifting are two different things
@@jaycollett2853
Hello. What is Better for MMA?
I want to start Doing weights for MMA so I would Appreciate if you could inform me of the Difference between the two?
Thank you for your Time
@jaycollett2853 he never claimed they were the same. That's why he wrote:" ah so olympic lifts."
@@leo0367 he's implying without claiming you thought you did something didn't ya nerd?
Dudes defo on that TRT now
That squat in the beginning with over a thousand lbs was pretty damn explosive. This makes no sense what he's talking about here
Think a boxers jab or a sprinters start like explosiveness.
I think usable explosiveness is a better word. Think about it this way while on the way up heavy squat/dead/bench is very explosive however long brace and singular motion is not ideal for instantaneous explosion for sports.
This training methodology is great for increasing raw power and setting a great base for explosive training.
explosive as in speed. if you tried to jump at the same speed you did a squat max, you wouldnt leave the ground. Athletes do training to not only have stronger muscle, but faster muscle. Powerlifters generally don't squat as fast as you would jump so its not good for training your vertical for example. Athletes do a lot of light weight or weightless plyometrics which helps build up speed from a still position to move faster, jump higher, and change directions quicker. I say all this as a powerlifter myself.
Just say you suck at sports
as a powerlifter you want to recruit as much as possible. As an athlete you want to recruit as quick as possible
Jump, sprint, lift heavy, lift fast, rest, eat, Drink, play sports, enjoy life.
Train like a strongman!
Don’t bro the amount of food and calories they have to eat is not ok dudes are gonna die at like 60 😭
@@SCP-38I2 with the exception of Jon Paul who died from a genetic disease all of the 70's 80's and 90's professional strongmen are still alive. Bodybuilders die a lot more frequently. Cross fit is to new
@@SCP-38I2how tf are you dying at 60 exercising
@@peterk.2108 dude do you know what a strongman has to do? They have to keep their body weight at ridiculously high levels for most times which puts a lot of pressure on their heart, and a lot of that body weight is not only muscle but fat too, they have to eat around 8k or even more calories to maintain it which isn’t very healthy at all
@@SCP-38I2Mitchell hooper weighs 320 lbs only eats 5000 calories.
Also, most of them are extremely tall. So their weight isn’t that bad.
Ahahaha no the answer is no :)
Almost no one does Olympic lifting here. I stick out like a sore thumb!
If they remove it from the Olympics what will it be called?
@@alanrastellilifting
@@alanrastelliThe sport was always officially just named "weightlifting." People say "Olympic lifting" only because it's less ambiguous.
no one cares if you train different to everyone else just carry on training how you want
@@jaycollett2853 I know. It's just that they're so puzzled because I use light weights (50% BW) to work on technique while the norm is >100% BW for deadlifts.
no im a powerlifter i will continue to train like one thank you very much
I don't care about being a world-class athlete I just wanna be strong
I’m a weightlifter who’s dabbled in powerlifting, If you wanna squat bench and deadlift more, do lots of squat bench and deadlift. Don’t do Olympic lifts, the skill acquisition requirement for those lifts is insane, you will spend months drilling technique so you can get enough weight on the bar to make them useful. In those months you’ve spent doing technique drills, know what you could been doing? Adding kilos to your SBD and increasing proficiency in those lifts that you actually want to get good at!
Weightlifting training is fun, and it’s an amazing skill to learn, but if you just wanna SBD, don’t bother learning Olympic lifts
I’d say it’s generally safe to SBD hard whilst learning basic technique for Olympic lifts. Once you get proficient, it might be a decision of which path you want to pursue, but you might find you prefer Olympic lifts after all. I found I didn’t like them, but it’s still good to have.
I train like a powerlifter because that’s my goal. But could incorporate some cleans and snatch. The numbers just don’t go up though lol on those lifts.
If you compete then thats fine. Problem is most gym rats dont compete.
@dnegel9546 yeah then wonder why they're sucking wind after two sprints down the court.
Nah I don’t be sucking wind after sprints and yeah tryna get ready to compete.
if u practice them more then the numbers will definitely go up. its really mostly technical on weightlifting movements rather than pure strength reliant like SBD. not to say strength doesnt matter tho because it absolutely does. but if u dont practice weightlifting movements consistently then the weight on the bar will progress very slowly for sure
@@dnegel9546you don't have to be a competing power lifter to train like one because you enjoy it as a h hobby or lifestyle what's
Powerlifting is literally creating massive amounts of explosive force to move weight quickly. They don’t “struggle to recruit quickly”
I know, I know....but unfortunately they do 😂
Exactly lol. A lot of powerlifters (or at least the ones who are smart) incorporate plyometrics in their workouts as well. People love to talk about things they know nothing about.
Except that it isn’t. It is about creating massive amounts of force to move weight incrementally. Heavy squats barely helped my vertical, for example
you're confusing maximal recruitment with rate of recruitment. Snatches for example are the most powerfull movement you can do despite the wr being a lot lighter than a squat yet their is a clear difference in power production
when your doing heavy squats you must move the weight as faast as possible @@JohnSmith-oe5kx
As someone that isn't trying to be an athlete. Ill train how i want to. Thanks though.
Stupid guy
You have to build a foundation first with those major lifts before you can screw around with everything else.
True in a lot of cases, not every case, though.
That is not true at all. Powerlifting and olympic weightlfting are two different sports
@@LucasDimoveo that’s true, but wouldn’t you think someone would say, benefit from doing front squats for cleans
Bro if u wanna be a power lifter traint like a power lifter
I don’t think in bjj we use power in every move..some moves are more isometric and some require slow strength..we literally use everything in mma.
I’m 57 and I listen to my body, not an influencer on CZcams.
This is like those dorky shoes they promised would make you jump higher.
Don’t tell me what to do
Powerlifters are taught to be explosive with the competition lifts already through all the warmups leading to the top set
Thats how a powerlifter trains
Look at westside guys
Powerlifting is not the same thing as strength training. It's like comparing tennis to baseball just because the both swing at balls. It's not the same.
Mario rios would love this guy
Step 1. Build a base by using foundational compound lifts (Squat, Deads, Bench, OHP) and playing sports regularly
Step 2. Be kind of strong now and start to focus more on Sports specificity
Step 3. Keep getting strong but add more and more sports specificity
Step 4. Start to miss getting ridiculously big and strong.
Step 5. Powerlifting becomes your sports specificity!
Step 6. Realize you miss being athletic and get into strongman.
Step 7. Profit.
Does training with Olympic lifts help with increasing the ratio of fast-twitch fibres for power sports that require it?
Or are the changes mostly neurological?
I see a lot of powerlifter in the comments upset… he’s an Olympic lifting coach.
Absolutely correct. Burst!
Says impulse uses the exact definition for power #charlatan
Jumping over hurdles is more fun than powerlifting.
Looking leaner Dane! Beast
But if I want to succeed at powerlifting, should I not train like a powerlifter? How will cleans and snatches help me - as in why pick on powerlifters specifically? I think we should just train for our goals.
If you want to be athletic and stuff, maybe going all in on powerlifting isn't the best idea. Vice versa, if you want to succeed at powerlifting, train the movements you'd be expected to perform at a meet
If you didn't know, alot of powerlifters already do this on their warmup sets and secondary days.
So why exactly do we have to stop training like powerlifters? It all depends on what your goals are.
Stop training like a *powerlifter* for increased explosiveness and power
Training the speed urself
I'm training the strength
No side effects powerlifting its best our body
Explosiveness is work in Judo and Wrestling
Boys, training like a powelifter is fine, but he's talking about this from an explosive athlete perspective. Some pylometrics wouldn't hurt to add
A powerlifter can't win a weightlifting compitition but a weightlifter can win a powerlifting compitition so ....
Just because a given load is observed as moving slowly doesn't indicate the sheer violence of force being applied to the load to make it move.
One thing to ask yourself is why am I training like an athlete in a sport I don’t play? Train for longevity train hard yes but keep that meat machine healthy!
By impulse he means impact on your joints
no he means recruit as much motor units as possible as quick as possible
Saying to train like an athlete is so ambiguous as there are a number of disciplines you can train for, and so the training for an endurance runner is going to look very different than a sprinter. To suggest a powerlifter isn’t an athlete in their own right is ridiculous
I am trying to lift 200kg in deadlift. So I keep training like powerlifters.
To maximise speed and power your training needs to address both sides of the force velocity curve during training blocks. High weight low rep resistance training is the best way to increase one’s ability to produce maximal force (I.e the force side of the curve) and the other exercises he recommend are great for improving one’s rate of force production I.e (the velocity side of the curve). Both are required to optimise power.
You are correct, that is why the Chinese weightlifting team are so big on maximal pulls for the clean deadlift and snatch pull
The caveat here being if you want to improve your athleticism.
Aside the bullshit that is colossal.
Olympic lifts are very very technically difficult. You can't just pick a barbell and start doing them 😑
I see you got too injured to lift what you could and leaned out and done bb or CrossFit type stuff like all us older powerlifters. 👍👍
His focus is on a functional body in all aspects I presume l, hence why speed and explosiveness is important as he points out, if your focus is on strength then obviously go for it
He doesn't do powerlifting.
I do a little bit of both
Train for your goals.If you wanna get stronger and thats it then train like a powerlifter
Or a strongman 😁
No, I do want to train like a powerlifter
Proceeds to train like an Olympic lifter
Doesn't make sense. Powerlifting with high intensity trains effective recruitment of muscle fibers. You basically need it to be able to max out on a lift. And a lot of powerlifters do speed rep training too. The reason powerlifters don't look explosive when you see them is that they are moving high percentage of max weights, which is never fast. Is it for everyone? No. But muscle fiber recruitment is probably not the right argument.
Powerlifting is good if u mix it up with calisthenics
Your benefits is for athlete's and there benefits is to be strong so all you said here was train for what you do 😂😅 got it
Or you could use accomodating resistance on the bar and lift explosively, and incorporate jumping. The Olympic lifts have a steep learing curve and not necessary.
that doesnt mean you cant do them. you dont even need to learn the full Clean and jerk or a full snatch. you'll be just fine with hanging power cleans and hanging power snatches which both only take 2 or 3 sessions to learn the correct mechanics
@jaycollett2853 you could do them, or not. Won't make or break the athlete. And yes hang snatch and cleans are easier to learn.
F**k it I am strong and I will train like strongman
Stop… taking advice from someone on steroids unless you are on steroids
Power is genetically a gift. We cant train the svj. Power inly increases as a buy product of strength. This is why we all cant be nfl athletes
What about that Anatoly guy, he lifts heavy weights like its nothing and he has a good physique that isn't too bulky or slow
I could never get into the Olympic style training, not my thing.
I’m gonna have to pass on this one champ
I prefer muscle. What do you then suggest?
Or, or, hear me out.... Train however YOU enjoy
And then there is this guy selling bull . Train like a powerlifter if you want to be a powerlifter. And there are all kinds of different ways to train ‘like a powerlifter’. Some of them are explosive as sh*t.
He's talking to athletes (as he's an athlete trainer). And he's correct. Nothing wrong with doing powerlifting movements in your routine as an athlete, but the focus should be on explosivity
Garage Strength's target audience is student athletes, not powerlifters. His advice makes perfect sense.
@@theaccordian9377issue is u can't train power. No one goes from a 22 inch svj to a 36. Or we all could be NFL athletes.
Who is guy in first clip ??
JM would disagree.
Strength>>>speed
You cannot lift heavy with speed
Nah dawg since I found out about powerlifting even if I want to my subconscious mind won't let me go back to that bodybuilding bs I just love to slam them weights
The day when youtube shillfluencing will burn i will be the first to light a cigar from the flames and walk away
That is literally like saying that an astrophysicist struggles with physics
Coach… but I want to be a powerlifter
You think they can't lift a lighter weight more quickly?! 😂
Powerlifting gives me the sadz
Train like each kind of lifter at different times of the year
Please, please, NEVER do snatches, cleans and jerks unless you know proper technique. These exercises are very technically demanding and WILL lead to injury, if you do them incorrectly. Also, olympic lifting is a difficult sport of its own, you can't mix it up with other types of exercises too much. So if you wanted to do snatches, cleans etc., you would have to train like an olympic lifter, more or less. Just like you would train more or less like a powerlifter in order to move big weights.
Surely, everyone is unique, and so should be your training routine, but there're also some arbitrary rules that most find useful.
Your body needs to recover from physically demanding exrecises, such as any kind of weightlifting, olympic lifting even more so. You simply won't be able to train effectively and maintain a good technique, if you also start doing a lot of cardio, for instance.
Str vs pwr
But.... but I am a powerlifter 😢
and what if all powerlifters stop training like powerlifters? I don't think most people know how powerlifters train. Not everything is Westside! *lol*
Is it just me or does Dan have abs now. I’ve been watching the channel for a long time.
The video is obviously aimed at people looking to improve their “jumping ability, acceleration and athleticism.” He literally says it. And powerlifting is indeed nowhere near as good as Olympic weightlifting and plyometrics at doing that. Arguing the point is just silly
also every sport trains differently for different purposes. olympic weightlifting isnt good for some sports aswell
@@jimmy3k767 Of course. But name a sport for which powerlifting is better training than Olympic weightlifting
@@JohnSmith-oe5kxbaseball, swimming, javelin toss, volleyball, mma. theres more
when the last time time you seen a mma fighter do olympic weightlifting over powerlifting@@JohnSmith-oe5kx
@@jimmy3k767 Powerlifting isn't good for any of those. Never mind
I train like a Birdiebuilder 🐦, because I want to become one. 🎉😊❤
You know, I just wanna look lean and shredded, but the desire to be strong is too strong... 😂
Mario Rios except he's actually nice.
Love it coach!
Often time they’re on steroids
Crossfit energy
Wrong 😑.. train like a power lifter ..
But.... I'm a power lifter
Powerlifters are not strong! Why do people not understand this
Someone show this to Mario.
But what if I just wanna powerlift and my sports days are behind 😂
Then don't watch a channel targeted to athletes lmao. It's like going to a cooking channel and complaining that you don't like cooking.
@@theaccordian9377 dh it’s a CZcams short it’s all workout shit u actin like I clicked on it😭. Wild u likin ur own comment like ur own opinion isn’t valid enough to u 😂
No thank you I like my joints how they are
Stop telling people to train like other people....the gym is a personal experience...... if we choose to lift use strongman training . ..(Butt)
lmao i train both powerlifting and weightlifting
seems calesthetics focused-which i hate
Stop !!!!!! being like every other fitness influencer..