The Beginning of Scuderia Ferrari's End?
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- 🏎️ Strap in and get ready for an exhilarating ride through the twists and turns of Formula 1's latest bombshell! Join us as we delve deep into the seismic repercussions of Lewis Hamilton's groundbreaking move to Ferrari, sending shockwaves through the motorsport world. In this gripping exposé, we uncover the intricate layers of Ferrari's storied history, from Enzo Ferrari's unwavering dedication to racing purity to the modern-day power dynamics shaping the team's future. Explore the tension between Ferrari's autonomous racing ethos and the CEO's bold acquisition tactics, as we dissect the implications of Hamilton's arrival on team dynamics, brand identity, and lucrative sponsorship agreements. From the boardroom to the racetrack, we leave no stone unturned in our quest to unravel the complexities of this monumental decision. So, buckle up and hit play now to experience the adrenaline-fueled drama firsthand - Formula 1 fans won't want to miss a single second of this gripping saga! 🏁
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In a monumental move for Formula 1 fans worldwide, Lewis Hamilton, the legendary racer and seven-time world champion, has officially inked a groundbreaking deal with Scuderia Ferrari for the 2025 F1 season, marking a significant shift in the motorsport landscape. The announcement sent shockwaves through the racing community, as Hamilton's move to the iconic Italian team, known for its rich history and unparalleled passion, sets the stage for an electrifying showdown on the track. With Hamilton joining forces with Ferrari's dynamic duo, Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz, enthusiasts are eagerly anticipating the thrilling battles that lie ahead. As the sport eagerly awaits the 2025 season, fans are treated to exclusive insights as Hamilton shares his thoughts in an interview, shedding light on his decision to join the illustrious Ferrari family. Under the leadership of Ferrari CEO, John Elkann, and inspired by the legacy of Enzo Ferrari and Gianni Agnelli, this monumental collaboration between Hamilton and Ferrari promises to redefine the essence of Formula One, igniting the passion of fans and setting the stage for an unforgettable chapter in the sport's storied history.
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It's AGnelli. Not Angeli.
They are basically the Kennedys of Italy... And no Angels whatsoever.
Old "Silver Nose" Agnelli was quite the match to the wily "Drake". Elkann is the intelligent grandson... he has a clown for a brother.
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The dynamic at Ferrari is gonna be interesting
It certainly feels like something's changed and not necessarily good for their long-term health. Short-term? Oh yeah they're gravy.
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Leclerc is an actual winner of Lewis Transfer.
If he loses against lewis then he lost against of arguable one of the GOATs of the sport and if he wins then he gains even more
Of course, but for now before a wheel has turned, securing Lewis is a sign that the CEO of Ferrari doesn't believe Leclerc is the guy to lead them to a title.
*Hard* disagree on that statement; if Leclerc loses to Hamilton in 2025, then he's at much bigger risk of losing the Scuderia's favour than he ever was with Sainz. Hamilton already has an established history with Vasseur, which combined with Hamilton's F1 legacy will give him significantly more leverage given that Leclerc hasn't been able to consistently string together a title fight. Furthermore, on the public perception side, TeamLH's merger into the Tifosi will give Hamilton more commercial weight and influence in the Italian press, plus Hamilton will also enable the British press to rally behind Ferrari. And we all know how Ferrari is influenced by media metrics.
@@LawVS you say he doesn't believes in him. I see it as a publicity move, the money that lewis will bring to Ferrari is a lot. And Leclerc will continue way longer past lewis retirement.
Exactly! Most arent expecting leclerc to beat lewis so there isnt much pressure. Leclerc has got the oppurtunity of a lifetime to learn and grow from one of the goats of the sport.
When Ferrari has invested in Hamilton this much and made him part of marketing, Leclerc should fear his equal opportunity. I don't think Hamilton brings much to the table in terms of team performance, the team he performed with had unique long term supremacy thanks to the head start on the engine concept. It's probably just Ferrari being impatient and signing what the believe a sure thing because everybody says he's superquick like with Raikkonen.
The highs will break all previous highs, but the lows can destroy everything
Oh of course. As I stated, if Lewis DOES get that 8th title then this transcends Michael's 2000 moment...but if Lewis doesn't get it and Charles is able to hold his own or outshine him...then that's a very expensive hole in their pocket...as far as Lewis is concerned he is the winner for the most part.
Ferrari have been fighting near the front minus 2020 and 2021 for a long time even if they haven't won the title. Before Schumacher joined Ferrari had been in the wilderness.
The contract for Lewis is worth it for the value of Ferrari even if he doesn't win. The only way this goes wrong is if Lewis expresses dissatisfaction with Ferrari publicly if things don't go well.@@LawVS
@@LawVSare you going delete these comments too😂😂😂
I'm already intrigued about Hamilton's Ferrari radio communications 😄 This will be fun 😄
I'm sure he'll be a natural at learning Italian.
@@LawVS I meant Ferrari's engineers not having a clue. Not Lewis' future Italian skills.
How do you say "he just turned into me" and "my tyres are gone" in Italian?😂
@@h3ct0r28"we are checking"😂 Actually if he says his tyres are gone, they'll just pit him😂
Love ur new format with the cut away shots to the side
Yeah they feel like little asides to us.
Not being able to reply to comments is a good problem to have, glad to see your channel growing! 🙌🏽 keep up the great attitude and enthusiasm
You totally deserve the growth of the channel and I for one can understand that responding to everything is not going to be feasible for much longer.
don't let him off easy. that's part of his charm. lets hold him to responding to all comments forever lol
@@TheStevieb1983 rofl xD
He deletes the comments if doesn’t like them he is wolf in sheep skin
That section around 8:45 is like a Seb version 2.0 story -- Seb leaving Red Bull after an ultra successful run, Lewis was dominating F1 and something wild had to change enter Seb leaving to go to Ferarri... Now its Lewis' turn to see if he better the original story, since Seb could only get to 2nd. Its interesting how stories always seem to repeat themselves.
Indeed, history can easily repeat itself if not learnt fully.
You’re completely right about the channel growing. I remember the other day it was at 34 K and now it’s almost at 38 K. Very deserved, Mr. Ladder, I can’t wait to see where we go from here 🙌🙌
Cheers, pal!
Eventually it's going to become impossible to reply to every comment, but it's nice to see a CZcamsr grow and still maintain discourse and appreciation for their subscribers
Yeah so far every time I've commented he's also replied
So glad you still reply to everyone. I can see you touching 150k this year. This is one of the best F1 channels out there. Crazy storytelling and explanation.
I try my hardest to do so but thank you!
They are starting to look like Alpine with Elkann playing racing boss.
Good point. The Laurent Rossi situation.
The situations with Alpine and Ferrari are nothing alike. Renault doesn't even take its own team seriously and refuses to give Alpine the proper investment it needs to be a front running team. Then when the team predictably underperforms and the team leadership tries to convince Renault to invest more they fire their own leadership instead of investing more. With Ferrari they already have all the investment they need to win and their management changes are actually warranted because people actually have been under-delivering.
Hes been doing that for years since he joined, hes the one who overruled Sebs signing.
Bets on this being Lewis' worst season ever, plagued by "bad luck".
I'm a new subscriber, but your videos have been the cure for my offseason F1 withdrawls. I simply cannot thank you enough for your fresh and unique perspectives on the sport I love so dearly!
The simple format, informative insight and enthusiasm make this a channel i enjoy thoroughly.
We shall see what transpires and hopefully this year in F1 is entertaining and gripping.
Thank you Law VS
People aren’t realising - this isn’t going to be Michael to Ferrari. It’s going to be Prost to Ferrari.
Especially since Lewis can't bring whoever he likes nor can he convince people to come with him. They have to leave whilst providing evidence they are leaving of their own free will.
I joined this channel because you make me consider things I hadn’t before.
Guys hear him out. He’s not saying Lewis will do poorly. It’s an analysis of one of the most shocking switches in teams in 5 years. Ferrari is responding to market pressures and the culture changes that will come to one of the oldest teams.
I’m team LH through and through, and will have all my stuff go red in 25.
One thing this video didn’t address is even if a Ferrari that fell apart at Monaco when Charles was leading can handle the pressure of a vocal team LH putting all sorts of pressure on Ferrari because Lewis is culturally important.
Thank you so much for the super chat, pal! I appreciate the feedback and support.
I do have a feeling that Hamilton does not see joining Ferrari as a matter of pride, but for convenience only, in the Alain Prost way. Alonso, Schumacher, and Mansell all joined Ferrari with pride and they all received a lot of affection from the Scuderia and got adoration from the Tifosi. I get a feeling that the Hamilton GOAT may even ask Ferrari to paint the car black and he might not last long there.
I suppose so. He's getting to live out a dream and fund his projects. For him, it's gravy.
Keep up the great work, Law! ❤️ seasoned opinions and some controversy, love it!
I love this channel!
Thanks for the hard work!
I stumbled on this video. Though, i don't agree with a lot of your points but i love you energy and you make me smile😂
I subscribed.🎉
That's fair enough!
Love the background ambience changing according to the theme of the video 🔥
That's the idea!
I have subscribed, not only for your knowledge and the news, but for your enthusiasm whilst reading it... Lol. A lot more exciting than others...Well done. 🙂
I just subscribed :-) I am really liking your exposition and logic. Keep the analysis coming. Love the ladder btw :-D
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Cheers, pal!
I wouldn't be surprised if you're able to hit 100k by the end of this year! Keep up the good work man! Your analyses are quite insightful, especially for newcomers like me (~2020)
I am extremly grateful for your channel existing. For quite a while you are my go to trustworthy source and favorite f1 creator. So, thank you for your hard work!
You're welcome! I love sharing my passion for this sport with folks.
The deep Analysis on this channel is on another level! Fantastic video
It's a reoccurring theme of upper non ground level management making decisions that rock the boat. I would have loved to seen a Vettle and Hamilton team up at Ferrari.
That would've been bonkers. And chaotic.
Gratz on your channels growth.
Can I hope to hear a "thank you" speech from Prof Law soon?
Maybe but I won't make it a long self congratulating one though.
I'm really looking forward to see how Lewis handles Ferrari's long term issues with a loose rear. I can't remember the last time Lewis crashed as a result of losing the rear. Seb and Charles have had the EXACT same crash around 8-9 times, always dropping the rear.
Depends how Ferrari handles their regained downforce, but yes...we shall see where the car goes in development. Charles or Lewis?
so you weren't around 2007 - 2008 !
@@yugarten8523 What makes you think that?
@@LawVS Charles is reportadley very happy with the car, and they went to a more overseer with the Suzuka upgrade last year.
Chaarles has only ever really lost the rear in practice, and only consistently with the 2019 car which had no downforce. All the other cars havent really had a issue, except the sf23 which had a stalling beam wing
I can only thank law vs for responding to so many comments even as his channel grows. I’ve been there since very early watching these, so if you ever reach the 100k or more please don’t forget about the ogs like I’ve seen some people do.
This man spits the best f1 content out there.
So many questions about you standing on a ladder... Like, is your right calf ok? what do your family think when they walk past your lower half? could you do a 2 hour live stream without injury?
Great content as always! 😁
My calves have never been more toned. It's more the arches of my feet that are sore afterward.
Lewis needed to save his pennies to buy his stake in the Denver Broncos.
I still think Ferrari fired the wrong driver. Carlos won a race and slayed a manhole last year, what'd Charles do? No really, I don't remember him even being in most of the races other than to complain about the strategy.
The lineup currently seems the most sound. I get Ferrari needed to be bold but like this? It's a 50/50 shot.
If carlos was so good by just winning a race then why didnt he beat charles in the championship despite charles having far worse luck and the car suiting carlos for approximately 70% of the season(the other 30% had the car suiting both drivers)
Don’t apologize for not getting back to comments. Keep making the great content.
8:45 That’s actually a good point. After the snoozer of a season that was 2023, I was on the fence about renewing my F1TV subscription for this year. But now I’m definitely renewing my subscription this year, And next year, cuz I wanna see Lewis in Red.
That's exactly what the by product is. The curiosity to see Lewis venture forth in red...and seemingly in Melbourne once more for the season opener!
What very interesting points! I was in two minds about watching this. But some really interesting angles. Being interested in conspiracies, you sparked a thought in my head... I wonder if F1 knew about this and thought it would be a great idea to boost viewing figures. Just the curiosity of how he could do in read is enough to pique my interest again and I'm sure many others.
Curious. Stefano might have known since he has a Ferrari connection from long ago...but I doubt they orchestrated it directly.
This just doesn't make any sense to me when it comes to Ferrari's perspective. They have the best driver lineup on the grid with Charles and Carlos and they are both still pretty young. Aquiring Hamilton does nothing but make noise for them. They may get 3 years out of Lewis and I highly doubt he will out perform Charles the first year if ever. Ferrari needs to focus more on strategy and making the car closer to the RB rather than switching the one thing they had going for them which was the drivers.😂
I think it was purely a blink and you'll miss it deal.
Very interested to see where the Merc fans land following recent events .. do they stay loyal to their team or follow their driver(s)?
I think it will be a mixture of many things.
As a Merc fan, i feel like only the Russell supporters will stay. The Hamilton fans like myself haven't been happy with the team for some time now.
Have been a Merc fan because of Lewis. So, going with him to Ferrari
I was a Merc fan up until Toto took over from Brawn, so I'm still waiting on Toto to leave before I cheer them on again.
It’s a truly interesting situation with two massive brands coming together. Either it becomes the biggest deal if they succeed or leaves a bad taste if they don’t. I am truly fascinated as a Lewis fan how this will impact his legacy when it’s all said and done. Love your channel! Great work!
It can easily go either way.
Gianni Agnelli was instrumental in signing Micheal Schumacher and announced it informally on italian TV during an interview when no one was excpecting it!
I'm sure there was talk about it happening in some manner and probably for not nearly as much cash and additional project spending.
Get the popcorn ready because silly season this year is going to be a spicy one.
It already is!
Given the stock price has gone up soo much at ferrari ,could we say that lewis was acquired by ferrari for nothing ? The most expensive racing driver is in fact the cheapest in history ?
Wait for the press to accuse lewis holdings and toto of acquiring stock before the announcement ?
It's true in a way. Asset wise he has had much a difference before even arriving.
The increase in value is for the shareholders, none of that increase is in Ferraris pocket….
Leclerc did everything to undermine Seb. Leclerc will not be happy he is no longer number 1 at Ferrari. This might start out all smiles, but once the cars start hitting the track everything will change!
Which is why I believe the Italian press stating Charles was 'shocked and disappointed'.
@@LawVS Love your channel and your prospective! You are very sharp. I wonder if they purposely locked Charles down long term, before locking down Lewis. I am thinking Charles had that same thought. Keep up the great work my friend. I am in Michigan USA!
Now, I think this is a shallow understanding of Ferrari's goals here.
First, we have established that Leclerc has known and approved of Lewis' move to the Scuderia.
Second, Elkann's motives move way more than the Scuderia. It has been reported that Ferrari will give Mission44 and him a ton of money for his charity work. That's important in this case. Elkann WANTS to be Ferrari's ambassador, along with Charles.
Third, would you think Lewis would even try to touch the Scuderia if Vasseur hadn't been picked as Team Principal? With Binotto at the helm of the role? With the fiasco that is 2022-2023? No? Exactly. Who urged the Ferrari bosses to fire Binotto and hire Vasseur because they would leave if they haven't? Leclerc. He has immense power over the team and he knows that he won't be pushed around. Just because Elkann made a bunch of calls doesn't mean Elkann was the primary instigator of this move to Ferrari, and don't underestimate Vasseur either. He's the one making the shots as the TP, negotiating with Lewis for the actual role of driving a car, Elkann helped Fred get that with the bonuses mentioned above.
Fourth, no, Leclerc and Sainz aren't balanced in terms of how they're moving on the team. Sainz has tried many times to mess up Charles' qualifying, hell, Silverstone 2022 was a thing where the entire pit wall seemingly just helped Carlos, despite Charles being faster during race duration. There's a lot of infighting between the team before Vasseur took the role as TP.
This isn't some sort of, Ferrari bosses losing trust in Leclerc. All of them have some sense that Lewis is in his waning years. Leclerc is an FDA protégé, that isn't changing, and his manager, Nick Todt? He'd fight tooth and nail for the fair contract Charles deserves. Piero believes in him. Hell, again, the reason why Lewis is in Ferrari is because of Charles, if not for his calls made to the bosses, Fred won't be at the role he is now, and Ferrari won't get Lewis.
I understand your thoughts and I thank you for sharing with them. Once again, these actions by Elkann are eroding the pact made by Ferrari himself.
@@LawVS before we get into another another thread, what pact are you talking about?
Gotta love how everything big, good or bad, that's happening in the formula 1 world has max verstappen dominating as its root cause.
It kinda does as all the teams have to do something to catch up, realising that the entire operation of theirs is built like a tank...for now.
Maybe this is really more a Ferrari Cars move to fight back market share. Tesla shows how effective in this social media age a famous brand ambassador can make in selling cars. While Charles and Carlos are great drivers, no one is a brand ambassador like Lewis.
Agreed. Ferrari the automaker made this call NOW rather than in 2026.
@@LawVS May your videos go viral enough for you to get the Limited Edition Lewis designed Ferrari
No, Schumacher was on a level of his own and chose the hard long difficult way to glory with Ferrari instead of Williams or McLaren. He didn't need to settle in to beat his teammate convincingly at Ferrari, he and Brawn and Todt needed time to make something of the team and car.
We have no reason to believe Russell is the only driver of the current field that matches Hamilton on pace. That is not a matter of being past his prime, that's a matter of not being that much faster than mediocre or subtop drivers and the field getting quicker with every year of young talents coming in. Leclerc might simply be well faster than prime Hamilton ever was.
True. Michael knew the importance of building a strong team around him to get the most possible. It still took him five seasons to win the title but from what has come out, the higher ups were starting to get antsy and slowly thinking that Michael might not be the guy. Well he was the guy.
This whole thing is making me Coup Coup
I know I am a birdbrain.
I 100% agree with your assessment. This is a slap to Charles and Fred, after all he is supposed to run the F1 team not Elkann. To me this is just a publicity stunt and not in any way a strategic move. The best Ferrari can hope for is that Lewis is hugely successful and gets an 8th title. There is no certainty of that but assuming he does he will no doubt retire shortly after and Ferrari will lose Charles leaving them without a stable driver lineup and they will have to go through a rebuilding phase.
Of course, it remains to be seen but I doubt Lewis will be as competitive as Charles. If he is not successful then Elkann's hopes to reappropriate the success of Lewis' career from Mercedes to Ferrari will fall flat and certainly won't work on the Tifosi and F1 fans generally.
The risk is high and the returns for Ferrari the car company could be good, they will certainly get a lot of attention, but giving a champion everything he asks for at the very end of his career it is not a strategic sporting decision, it is a marketing move. The fact the team that had the most to gain from his endorsement in his last years driving and after retirement, Mercedes, didn't agree to his demands is evidence that this simply doesn't make sense. Lewis will never be considered a true Ferrari driver by Ferrari people, he is too late in his career. And his fans will say its because of the r word. But it won't be.
Elkin started talking to Lewis not very long after Fred took over. Makes me wonder if Fred suggested it
Maybe but it all seems like it was Elkann orchestrating this his way and probably a lot more hastily than Fred would've wanted.
I agree with everything you said
Thanks for hearing me out!
Veeeerrrry interesting theories, backed by what is externally visible. You may well be right on this, Laws - time will tell, to a degree. It's not as if palace intrigue and politics have ever been an issue @Ferrari, or in Italy...and so it goes. Excellent feedstock for the Ladder Mill, eh?
My calves have never been so toned!
@@LawVS Might need a new camera angle, with a wide-angle lens to accomodate!
I'm not expecting there to be fireworks between Charles and Lewis, I take this move as Lewis embracing the fact he won't get his 8th drivers, but instead looking to secure his legacy and get his 9th constructors
Toto openly talked about Max being faster than Lewis, I don't think he's going there to beat keclerc, I think he's going there to build ferrari back up like he did at merc back in 2013.
Or at least thats what I think Elkaan thinks, he's trying to bring someone else in to help build up the ground work for 2026/28. Ferrari have seen how well Merc do when they listen ti their drivers and how vocal lewis has been about the mistakes Merc has made, and I think they want that scrutiny, or at keast the reassurance that the changes fred's making are right
Charles' is bappy bc he knows the only way to win a title is to fix ferrari, and lewis is a great way to do that
That's fair. If Lewis can have some fun and win some races in red then he will be happy.
What will happen the first time SLH pits and the Ferrari team has no tires in their hands?
I'm sure the crew will be fine.
John Elkann is not the CEO of Ferrari, he is the chairman, but he is the CEO of the Exor group, which owns a considerable amount of shares of the Ferrari company, including around 70% of the special voting shares. He is also the chairman of the Stellantis group, which is similar to the Volkswagen group. Brands like Dodge, Jeep, Alfa Romeo, Maserati, etc all fall under the Stellantis group.
OK thanks for the detailed clarification, he is the chairman of Ferrari. However he does act like the statesman of them.
So essentially he is the boss of all bosses.
Lewis went to the very top.
@@jkbzz Yeah, Elkann seems to have an excellent relationship with both drivers. We already know he adores Lewis. As for Charles, I remember a while back that he said he wanted Charles to be the one to lead Ferrari and win a title for them, which probably rubbed Sainz the wrong way.
Maybe LeClerc wanted a pressure valve and Lewis taking definite number 1 was just that.
Interesting plan for Charles if true.
So this is a marketing exercise. Makes sense, no one is beating Max and Red Bull for some time
He's got skill backing him up too but the marketing boost will be very notable.
I wish u had 1 million subscribers ❤
One day maybe.
Elkann is also the CEO of Juventus. Gotta feel fantastic owning the 2 biggest brands in italian sports.
That chap gets around!
Why does enzo look like özil? haha
There's no comparison with the legacy Lewis would have with Ferrari (even if he did win that elusive 8th) with Michael Schumacher. Lewis would have had 1 championship with Ferrari while Schumacher has 5. The difference in legacy is astronomical.
Of course. Michael's achievements are legendary but it's still the idea of Lewis doing the 8th with Ferrari which is oh so tantalising
Ladder Thoughts headwear when? Caps and beanies!
I think that charles is looking at this as a learning experience that will down the road pay untold dividends and the short term being "2nd fiddle" to lewis is an agreeable condition based on the previous statement.
I hope lewis gets his 8th or even as high as 10 championships with Ferrari.
I have been a fan of lewis since his McLaren days and will follow him through to Ferrari.
I thought that Leclare said he signed his contract already in the knowledge of Hamiltons move? But like you say, Sainz contract was about to be sighned - This is giving me the heebie-jeedies!
Something feels weird about all this. The spontaneous act seems like this was an impulse buy.
There have been a few sources saying Charles Leclerc knew Hamilton was coming when he signed his contract extension. As a Charles fan, this gives me hope. It means, rather than taking a Mercedes seat he knew was going to be available, he wants to face the challenge. He would have easily been top of Mercedes's wish list if he wanted an out. But he didn't which means he thinks he can take on Lewis. So I don't think it's a slap across the face to Charles, he's up for this!
If I remember correctly the cars have to be identical so there cant be a monster sponsor on only his car but his helmet is another story that's A okay.
It's still a conflict of interest to navigate but yes, no Monster logos on the car. Probably on his race suit too in place of Celsius. But there probably needs to be a meeting between the two companies to discuss "sharing" Lewis.
You hit the nail on the head. I’m afraid this will end up in tears…
As an italian i can tell you where john elkan goes he gets success so im not so sure of the arguement you are making but im really interested in the charles lewis dynamic
I'm discussing how Elkann's actions are eroding what Enzo had established with Agnelli in 1969: independence from the company and Fiat.
Just as often happened under Enzo, Ferrari management want everything in the short term, and are not having the patience for longer term success. I just hope they don't go down the "driver is a meat sack" route too...
I remember Brawn talking about long term fixes being vital and that short term solutions are never worth it.
Ham is on the slide down while Charles is plateauing but not going downhill.
This is 100% a marketting move, made easier because Charles sorry to put, but he keeps showing he cannot handle that presure.
Agreed. Ferrari need a profound move, as Elkann stated last year...clearly signing Lewis was it!
I really hope that someday Carlos and Charles will reunite, they’re my favorite duo and I’ll be sad to see them part after this year.
Maybe they should go hang out with Lando too
In recent years drivers like Lewis moving from a team where they had huge success doesn't end with winning. Michael unretired to join Merc, but Merc didn't start winning races until 2013. How big impact did Michael had on the trajectory of Merc during his 3 years, I don't know. Vettel moved from RB to Ferrari as a 4-time WC- didn't win any titles after that. To be fair the last time a driver moved on from a championship-winning team to a "struggling" team and made them a championship-winning team, was Michael in 1996 to Ferrari and won in 2000. Other than that I can't think of any other examples.
would really hope for another big news item to follow from that, can Andretti enter F1 without the commercial deal with Liberty Media?
if yes, i"d love an announcement of Andretti 2025, with Vasseur and Sainz, and maybe Lawson
They technically are allowed to race according to the FIA but FOM could easily block them from entering physically.
@@LawVS that is unfortunate
I was waiting for you to make your argument, and when you started to bring your points, that’s when it started to fall apart. How is Monster going to work with Celsius, really that would be the least of Ferraris issues. Even if this was a last-minute deal, and I don’t think it was, Ferrari had a limited window of opportunity to act and secure Lewis Hamilton as this is probably one of his last contracts in the sports when something as big, as Lewis Hamilton becomes available, you make room for it. What did Ferrari rush by bringing in Hamilton? And he has a great relationship with Fred. I don’t understand how you can say that Elkann went over Fred‘s head to get Hamilton. The whole latter part of the video falls apart there’s a possibility that it could not work, but not for the reasons that you mentioned
They did. Elkann seized the moment and it's these little things that made me suspect this wasn't a planned move right now but maybe for 2026.
Actually as a ferrari fan I observed a number of times that Hamilton troubled both ferrari driver but more especially sainz who couldn't keep Hamilton behind even with a better a inferior mercedes car of 2022.
That's a fair observation and supposedly a Lewis with a contract that's dicey is something worth grabbing.
Ah no.. I was on the "Lewis at Ferrari" hype train. But your information puts this all in a completely different light.. Let's wait and see what will happen
Lewis is quids in here. He's pulled a blinder of a move to end his career at a dream team of his. And he gets paid for it!
@@LawVS Oh definitely! I think it is a huge W for Lewis.
Though I am a bit worried regarding in what position Charles and Fred will be finding themselves in case Lewis' move to their team will not bring them to the top ASAP. As you said - Charles' role as a leader and Fred's plan on trying to get Ferrari back to the top slowly and steadily *could be* in jeopardy.
And as you mentioned: let's not forgot how they did my man Carlos! I have remembered McLaren's farewell video as well and it was a bit heartbreaking.
I wrote in your Merc Video that all this Lewis to Ferrari move is so reminiscent of CR7 move from the successful mighty Real Madrid to Juve. And if I remember correctly, the person that made that decision and made it happen was the Agnelli family too and not the coach. The coach had to make it work. There was romanticism of one of most successful all time footballers partnered with the most popular talented future Messi, who was being groomed by the Team to lead to future glory. That is Dyabala. Adored and loved by the Juve fans. He was their boy. The Jewel. There was euphoria galore. Stock market rise. Security fit for a King. Merchandise selling of the shelves. Traffic stood still. Commercially a success. I am from Africa, Juve shirts were won in rural and township by young and old. We had Serie A broadcasted in our channels alongside the Laliga, EPL.
His sole job was to get the Champions League. Mr CL himself. The guy who was responsible for their exits in the CL.
The Team was adjusted to suit him. Players were bought and fired. Coach resigned when results didn't come
CR7 tried to work and mentor Dyabala. At some point I felt the guy lost his confidence, demoralized by the weight of the great man. He tried, but didn't work.
Apparently when I read through the devoted Juve fans, the Team was meant to be rebuilding itself. Now, because of CR7 age and contract, there was no time to waste to get CR7 the Championship Winning Team. The Pressure was on.
One of the reasons CR7 gave for agreeing the move was the chance to play for the iconic history filled, icons of the sport played and were successful at the club. The Allure of the Old Lady. Wanting to be one if not the only player to be successful in all European Top Tier Clubs.
Very uncannily similar all this to Sir LH journey. Hopefully and prayerfully for him I wish he be successful and bring the Tifosi the Championship they clearly seek. The drought has been far too long for the Team as iconic as they.
Also, for Charles, a Dyabala situation will not be. But, I think George has shown that Lewis is beatable on your best day. Don't let the aura of the man, weigh you down. Give him enough respect, but don't fear him.
Unfortunately though I feel like CR7, athletes that move to other Teams with limited competitive age to race or perform; there's always going to be pressure to focus on the Star Champ to give them the best chance to win and get a return for their investment. So, the pressure released from Mercedes is now on Ferrari.
Indeed. I feel that Fred would've TRIED for Lewis at the end of the 2025 deal but not a whole year earlier and certainly not nearly half a billion dollars!
@@LawVSTrue.
Ferrari stock rose by a couple billion of dollars after Lewis announced the move. Great business move for Ferrari.
Ferrari’s problem wasn’t it’s drivers. It is now.
Their lineup was perfectly stable...now we've got Charles all wound up.
Giovanni "Gianni" Agnelli: As the head of Fiat, he controlled 4.4% of Italy's GDP, 3.1% of its industrial workforce, and 16.5% of its industrial investment in research. He was the richest man in modern Italian history.
From what I could tell there's a massive feud going on between the Italian government and the Agnelli family.
I think it’s funny that when asked to name a team beginning with m Hamilton named McLaren and when asked if he could name another he couldn’t and the interviewer reminded him of the name of the team he had been driving for for a decade. I don’t think ham has a strong brand loyalty with Mercedes.
Lewis moved for the 1/2 bn dollars and that’s it
Max to the8
He'll be alright. He gets to live his dream.
Can’t wait to see Lewis pulling in to the wrong pit box once more in2025 haha
Yeah it happens in F1 sometimes. I think even JB did that.
Andretti must be a f1 team by 2026. Ridiculous descision fom.
It'll be interesting to see what happens now the GPDA has gotten involved.
Around 13:25, you mention Lewis wanting to be number 1 driver. I always recall him asking for equality. Maybe you know more than I do.
I recall the whole Alonso/Hamilton discourse and then with Jenson and Nico. There was always a constant need for reassurances that the team were behind him.
equality 😂 yeah sure maybe I'll ask bottas about it
You’re all probably right. What he says and what he actually wants are two different things.
I don't think Charles is gonna just take it like Bottas. But he may see the time together with Lewis as a way to find what he himself is missing in his driving. Ferrari should be careful though. Going about it with a concise number one and number two will backfire immensely.
He just put out an interview stating he won't settle for second.
@@LawVS good. That's the type of determination I expect to see from him. Not just him, but any self-respecting racing driver, let alone those in F1.
11:45 to add on to your point, in American football, people only remember for the last team you played for, if you won a Super Bowl. All the pictures of Peyton Manning are in broncos jerseys, a lot of Tom Brady pictures are from Tampa. Lewis will forever be known as a Ferrari driver if he wins a world title there
Good point. If Lewis nails it then he'll probably be even more legendary...if he doesn't and he falls to Charles it could easily be a similar situation to Damon Hill's 1999 season.
It seems like Elkins has no knowledge about how a F1 team works.
Either that or felt like something drastic had to be done to catch up to Red Bull.
@@LawVS I honestly think that stability is a better way of catching up to redbull than doing some shock transfer and now the whole stability that was being build is gone.
Ferrari seem to win from a business point, but have two drivers who will expect to be #1. Merc get to plan for their future without SLH, so in sporting terms, they are better off IMO.
Oh yes this is a short term business coup...but the long term effects could be tricky.
ok, so they can drag a little bit of profit out of the teams now... what good is that to anyone but themselves if they keep brick-walling new entrants? The problem of spending themselves to oblivion to compete was only a problem for new teams.
We do need new teams yes.
Given all the premature speculation right now on Adrian Newey’s future, and the fact that Ferrari would be his potential Magnum Opus - I don’t know whether this would potentially be the end of Scuderia Ferrari, so much as a rosso corsa version of 2014-2020 in F1. It will satiate both the traditional tifosi and the “ScuderiaLH” as they are starting to call themselves on the bird app. Whatever Elkann decides the Ferrari F1 team is under his leadership it’s looking more and more like the effect it has on the sport is more of “one team being the best”. Nothing new under the sun…
Still, it's something to consider that the dynamic of Ferrari is changing to move away from the original blueprint.
@@LawVS It is, and I think they’ve seen a blueprint for success written in a factory in Brackley. From a sporting perspective, I can’t see very much changing in terms of competition, because how things are set up with the regulations right now, and how overpowered some particular personnel are, you’re always going to have the one team that gets it so right, that everyone else is lagging behind. I don’t mind departures from tradition, necessarily. Case in point being McLaren. Without Ron and Project 4 revolutionising the team, we wouldn’t have the team we do now…
Newey would retire most likely
@@jkbzz If he does, I hope he gets to do more racing himself. He’s definitely not a slouch behind the wheel of an old racer!
@@mediumpete hehehehe, interesting, never knew that
Hmm, indeed. The regrettable issue that businessmen often share with politicians is a focus on short-term personal gain without ever considering wider implications or the long term... "I got Lewis! Isn't that great!!" and..?
Also Lewis' deserved popularity is in my opinion almost entirely of the 'reflected glory' type, not so much personal admiration. I think Merc were aware of that, hence their reluctance to discuss any position post-racing. He will likely swap his helmet for a millstone around Ferrari's neck.
If it works out then great. If not then that's a big hole in Ferrari's pocket. Good for Lewis though!
This is gonna be a weird few years for f1 or it might be the start of a new golden era who knows
Could be! Certainly bold actions needed to be made...just didn't expect this one!
11:27 kimi raikonnen
This is EXACTLY what I was thinking about when I read about the contract. It‘s frightening. Part of me wants the Lewis move to fail so that Elkanns involvement with the scuderia will be brought under scrutiny, maybe even getting him fired from the role of ferrari CEO.
why would u ever wish that on someone...that's hella selfish. Just cuz u don't like him, doesn't mean u should wish him to be fired.
I don't begrudge Lewis at all in this...this just feels off in the speed and actions. Sure, I could see Fred tempting Lewis eventually for 2026. Not like this though.
@@vrooooommm I realize my wording might’ve been misleading. I dont have anything against Lewis, and I dont want him to fail or be fired. Part of me hopes he doesn’t win a title with Ferrari so that Elkann will be scrutinized. Its not about me not liking Elkann, its about him breaking what made Ferrari function. We all know what Alpine is like, and on this trajectory, he will simply create the next alpine. And thats what I hope we can avoid.
@@LawVS Of course, I dont have anything against Lewis either. My wording may have been misleading. My problem is with Elkann.
@milantoth6246 I already replied with this comment to someone else who made this bad comparison but the same applies so I'll repeat it.
The situations with Alpine and Ferrari are nothing alike. Renault doesn't even take its own team seriously and refuses to give Alpine the proper investment it needs to be a front running team. Then when the team predictably underperforms and the team leadership tries to convince Renault to invest more they fire their own leadership instead of investing more. With Ferrari they already have all the investment they need to win and their management changes are actually warranted because people actually have been under-delivering.