Harvard Alums Angered by School's Response to Antisemitism on Campus
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- Harvard is under pressure from a critical network of donors and alumni volunteers over the school's handling of reported acts of antisemitism on campus amid the Israel-Hamas war. Bloomberg News higher education finance reporter Janet Lorin breaks down the potential cost to the nation's richest university. Janet speaks with Carol Massar and Tim Stenovec on Bloomberg Radio.
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Wealthy alums should redirect their philanthropic money and talents to more worthy causes than Harvard.
Direct their philanthropy to Universities in Israel.
They should give just $1. it will send a powerful message (and likely cost them more than a dollar to process)
The $1 donation? lol how silly.
@@longsleevethong1457 it sends a message that I usually give (some large number) and I have not forgotten my donation here is a dollar. Very effective. You are clearly sending a message.
Totally agree.
Yet calling someone the wrong pronoun is an act of violence
And they don’t know what a woman is but they got hired because of their particular set of chromosomes….
@@longsleevethong1457
I don't think you know what a man is.
Truth!!!!!!!
Thank you, Harvard alumni, for speaking out against the rapid rise of administratively condoned Jew-hatred at Harvard.
How about speaking out against the misandry being taught at universities all over the country?
No one cares about that?
$1 donations from rich people is truly touching and powerful. It shook me took my core and made me think about my existence and the human condition as a whole and that maybe we can still do right….
Young Americans are taught to abhor racism and oppression so when Jewish voices for peace and breaking the silence tell students the truth about Isreal 1) a government with racist cabinet members Ben Gvir and Stromich2) Bentzi Gobstein 3) Lehava 4)Lafamilia 5) videos of hilltop youths driving Palestinians off their property 6) videos IDF soldiers standing idly by while extremist settlers burn down Palestinian homes ,crops and property or attack Palestinian school children that their education and careers are threatened for not supporting racial hatred shows how weak the pro Israeli argument is
As a Harvard alum (Masters '90), I used to be proud...no longer. I am ashamed of how degenerate the ethics of the school have become.
Indeed, such a shame for Harvard. It’s administrators are a bunch of idiots with ridiculous answers.
and how degenerate the faculty and the student body is
You used to be proud. But now, as a Harvard alum, you are now banned from contributing to my open source project. You should have gone to a better school. I have no tolerance for universities that promote violence since I was a professor.
You should still be proud. Harvard has a fine history.
Harvard has become a sewer of the mind.
Our children have not received a proper "EDUCATION" in years.
I watched the Rep. Stefanik grilling the Ivy league heads today, and was furious at their mealy mouthed side stepping replies. You don't play politics on campus, your there to teach, and do so at the Direction of the B.O.E. if it still exists, and government direction. At the end I had to agree with the Rep. they should all step down. No backbone at all. This is not how we were raised and taught not too long ago. A freshman could do a better job, and no I'm not a freshman, I'm 60. They need to go.
Had they directly & truthfully answered those questions, each of those college presidents would have returned home to their own students, profs, and administrators angrily protesting against THEM and their testimony before congress - and they knew that.
Despite these college presidents' absurd declarations their institutions welcome diverse ideas, these colleges have become bastions of Leftist ideology acceptance only & Israel hating.
Attitudes these completely disingenuous & despicable college presidents are fully aware of.
They were so smug and cheeky. Particular UPenn and Harvard presidents. They smirked one too many times.
I have now watched the full video of the Congress sub-committee and the President of Harvard's responses can only be described as a disgrace.
As an Australian I have had tbe privilege of being on workshops delivered by Harvard professors in the seventies. Harvard has been greatly respected internationally for many years.
I would urge as many North Americans as possible to watch this video whether as parents, financial supporters or the general public, because the performance and "culture" (or lack thereof) of Harvard and the other two universities in attendance bodes ill for the future of USA.
It seemed patently clear that rather than answer questions put to her the Predident of Harvard simply parroted the coaching of her attorney.
Truly a disgrace. I wonder is those women can be indited.
@@ruthbanon6049Do you know what an "indictment" is?
She is a fence rider.
@@Longtack55why don't you explain then ??
Stefanik is such a hypocrite, someone should ask her "Inciting an insurrection, plotting and executing the plans with his MAGA supporters and GOP snowflakes to steal the election from Joe Biden, is this a crime? YES or NO?. Well, Ms. Stefanik, it is a simple YES or NO answer. Stefanik's double-face really makes me sick.
I have acquantances who went to Harvard who are super embarassed now to metion any affiliation with Harvard. This horrific deterioration in the academic and ethical standard of that place did not happen in a day. I bet the current board and faculty and students have heavy ties to middle eastern money. The rot goes very deep there. A real disaster for that institution. Look at the President of that place and see the catastrophe.
Yes when asked how much money was being given none of them wanted to answer or gave a low ball figure
Your post sounds completely made up.
@@lewstone5430 Oh yeah?! Made up? If you are from Harvard lets see how easy you land a job with that place on your CV. Harvard and those other universities have been bought out by Qatar money. They are outposts of Hamas-Qatar who is calling the shots there as far as which students and faculty go there. Islamists money money has taken over those places and everyone knows it. Islamic ROT has taken over those places - exactly like the congresswoman said spot on.
@@lewstone5430yet it’s not.
@@MeadowLovinElf really? “Faculty and students have heavy ties to middle eastern money.” NO ONE BELIEVES THIS BECAUSE IT’S NOT TRUE.
Well, the first thing you can do is put forth a campaign to have your identity hire president fired. She totally embarrassed herself before Congress.
Can’t fire her because she’s a “protected minority”.
They have shipped in the trojan horse from the middle east.
That is exactly what happened.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
Israel?
@@Shaker626 No
The first thing you do when you actually don't want to do anything is to create a " task force."
Imagine the response if black students were being targeted? What a disgrace!
Or LGBT students (unless they suggested that teenagers shouldn’t be given artificial hormone or bottom surgery)
The ivy league dean's comments were absolutely disgusting. The DEI hire at harvard was the worst of the bunch. Get rid of her and get rid of them!
The fight has started, so have the students who are afraid need to take on a law suit against Harvard for not supporting their basic needs of being there…..
This is campus activism in full force. I hope students disrupting others from preparing for finals and not preparing their own finals will be forced to take final exams, and fail them if need to, instead of allowing activism as excuse of disrupting finals. It is sad to see that some students think pretesting and shouting are the only way to get things their way! This is clearly very misguided. A civil society needs more rationale and thinking instead of emotional bullish behaviors.
Campus activism does not have tp be bad but the way it is done is not always right and some people say hateful things but i totally understand they dont want to be passive when they see civilians being bombed every day by a “respected” nation.
How can you be proud of a place so woke that they don’t know the difference between good and evil
I call for the immediate resignation of the President of Harvard. And any administration personnel that supports her.
What of other college presidents that was also present. Y’all are all hypocrites always wants to drag any black people at the top down
@@anuoluwapo.6560
LOL.
I didn't even register she was black. I said Harvard because I'm in one of their courses.
You're the racist here.
Yeah. The other ones too need to be fired, fined, and excommunicated from all of academia.
@@anuoluwapo.6560nothing to do with colour. It was to do with her actions. The UPenn president has already stepped down. You can check on her race for yourself if you think its valid. It is not!!
I worked in higher education for over 25 years. Their rhetoric, the leaders, must be part of their training.
Their ""rhetoric" was little more than sticking to their attorneys script to cover their backsides.
Disruptive behavior should not be tolerated or allowed in classrooms, dorms or common areas. The universities should designate only certain areas on campus where protests are permitted. Any protest outside those areas should immediately be shut down and students dispersed and disciplined/expelled.
Why? That's not the America I fought to defend. I fought for free speech, freedom of and from religion, the right to assemble and air grievances, due process, equal rights, and every other American value. I'm not willing to throw any of that away.
Why are you?
Order is more important than legal expression? Didn't we throw a Tea Party once?
@@MrProy33 Americans have never had unlimited rights to disturb the peace.
@@MrProy33You have freedom of speech. But disrupting the education of peers is not acceptable. Protest in public areas if you must. Not in libraries and classes. The University has the right to take action against disruption on their property. It should do so where your freedom of speech activity prevents the freedom of others.
Universities tolerate disruptive behavior along with the violent threats against professors, so the best thing to do will be for everyone to collectively reject college degrees. I have. And I was a professor.
If this is the best university in the us, I’d hate to see the worst 😂
Liberal admin is too timid! As a University Illinois graduate student, I told our TA either to continue teaching the class or to leave the room since he had no business trying to recruit students to protest
I did this in college once. It’s crazy when you realize you’re the only critical thinker in a college level classroom of 50+people. Marxism…..
Lately, Ivy league schools are like Land Rovers: expensive, elitist and luxurious, but ultimately self-aggrandized, pretentious and junk!
Bingo.
My best friend and I attended the same college.Upon graduation our educational paths took us in different directions, with my friend opting for Harvard Law School. As the years progressed, my friend joined a medium size law firm and in time became a senior partner. There were two other Harvard grads in the firm as well. The other day my friend told me that he and the two other Harvard alumni symbolically returned their diplomas. Of more substance, all donor pledges were cancelled, and a decision was taken by the firm not to hire any Harvard graduates until the University takes steps to erase the shame brought to a Harvard degree. Harvard administration, in the name of wokeness destroyed one of the foremost institutions of higher learning. It will be a very long time before the institution will recover its brand, and current Harvard graduates will have to deal with the stigma of a Harvard diploma which in the eyes of many is no longer worth the material it is printed on.
Curious, what did Harvard do wrong?
For the first time in a long time, watching this I had no idea what any of the presenters' personal ideologies were. Thank you, Bloomberg, for giving us as unbiased a take as may be possible in 2023. This is the CRUCIAL role of journalists, and you are doing your jobs admirably.
They need to expel students for disrupting classes and threatening behavior.
They never do that. Universities always pander to the threats.
Imagine Harvard Students protesting German policies in the 1930s
They didn’t then and for exactly the same reason!
This is more in line with them supporting German policies in the 1930's
I wish they had ! Long live the right to protest the unjustified actions of any state
They wouldn't. Germany was the darling of leftist politics in the 20s and 30s.
@@James-hm9on Yet they aren't protesting the government of Gaza which is committing war crimes. I guess they just hate Jews.
That’s what happens when you take money from bad countries and bow down to
Hebrew University should open branches in the state, this will be the best solution and better education.
they should be embarrassed and pull all funding
"Harvard takes perfectly good plums as students, and turns them into prunes."-Architect Frank Lloyd Wright
A Harvard degree is now worthless.
I truly hope so…
It’s pathetic that it took them this long. It’s revealing how shallow and non-thinking they are.
You can see numerous striking parallels with the Red Guards (the student fanatics of the Cultural Revolution, 1966-76) in these Ivy Leaguers. Probably the most important one is the changing of the definition of wrongdoing and crime.
Things formerly thought morally unacceptable and unjustifiable are suddenly definite goods because they are done in the name of the approved cause. This applies not just to their campus activities, but you can see it also in many students' refusal to condemn the atrocities of the first Saturday of October.
_Abuse is good if it's done for the cause_ is the idea, and it is a powerful attractant. It appeals to the ordinarily-suppressed aggressive instincts natural to all people, giving permission to liberate and satisfy them. In the past, whenever people are extended an invitation, explicit or implicit, to abuse others in the name of goodness, a sudden tide of individuals comes out of the woodwork to accept it.
@dixonpinfold2582
Yes very well said.
There was a woman from the cultural revolution who explained that all Mao had to do was convince the students that there was an oppressed and an oppressor.
After that it was easy to get them to think that the “oppressors” were their parents and that it was good to turn their own parents in to police.
Here we also have use of Dresden defense which the Nazis tried to use during the Nuremberg trials.
They claimed that deliberately rounding up and slaughtering people was equal to the Allies bombing Dresden.
which, of course it’s not. There is no moral equivalent.
@alexstrasser1924 I'm comparing civilian left-wing student radicals to civilian left-wing student radicals. You're bringing airmen in a wartime military chain of command into it. Maoist much?
Sack her!
The whole world is appalled by the response of these three good ladies. The alumni should get rid of them.
Defund the universities . We stand with Israel and all Jewish people 🙏🤝
I stand with Jewish people too. But not apartheid.
We support Jewish people. But not genocide.
Jews =/= Israel
Alumni have a huge voice, especially donating alumni. I've seen the impact even on the boards of trustees. Keep speaking out and slam their doors shut if they do not hold up their ethical end of the bargain. Power and money always win and the alumni have both.
perhaps Harvard students should invoke the Tao of Mike Tyson against classroom disruptions: "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face."
Also Mike * bites mans ear off
Never heard that said quite like that. Thank you and Mike Tyson for those words because " words matter".
Stop donating!!!
She says nothing just repeats a standard comment. Bla bla bla we feel. Bla. Bla our brilliant faculty bla bla bla . Stone walling
Harvard College is heavily subsidise if your parents make less than 75,000 annually as a salary… Harvard College is heavily subsidise for its students by alumni funds.
The confederate flag is seen as hate speech and calling for genocide of Jews is not? Someone needs to go back to kindergarten.
I never heard anyone calling for genocide of Jews. But, I hear Israeli officials calling for Palestinian genocide almost every day. Bunch of Zionist crybabies.
If someone is slandering students, and saying they are calling for genocide of Jews, the burden of proof is on them. "From the river to the sea" is an anti-Zionist slogan, but not at all anti-Semitic.
I don’t think like the Confederate flag, but I was horrified that Dr. Gay feels calling for Jewish genocide is acceptable in certain contexts.
Banks need to freeze their accounts. Refund tuition to those denied access to classes.
It’s a beginning, but they need to block hiring of graduates by their firms as well.
Donors & prospective donors should consider no further contributions. There are plenty of small state supported colleges & even Jr.Colleges who would more than welcome your support. Even local high schools might be a better choice for your money.
I assume that graduates of these universities will find it very hard to get a job and that charitable donors will stop giving?
Stop all donations.
Start suing.
Call out every incident.
What a shame. The President of Harvard has taken the "higher" out of higher education. It sure isn't the quality institution it used to be.
I knew the University presidents would say nothing. And I know these schools will do nothing.
This is what happens when DEI rules the day
Hopefully they will withhold donations.
That's $1 too much....
lol. You would think Harvard with a bunch of "smart" people know how to make money to sustain their school.
One would expect Harvard students to be smarter than to get drawn into the poor me palestinian rhetoric. 🇮🇱
How do you expect the universities to handle this? They will lose their jobs if they dont support who they are paid to support.
Then they should make a full disclosure of what are their mission and purpose
They should also disclose who they are getting money from and how much. In order for all to see how Qatar-Hamas have actually taken over Harvard, bought out the place (and others) for all practical purposes.
where are the lawyers bringing civil suites on behalf of endangered students????
Those uni presidents should all resign or get fired!
ohh really?
@@user-wc9is7vr8p Really!!! Do you have a problem with that?
@@chatify68 Those universities have brilliant minds scientists and people and they don't need your nasty tyrannic moneys
Nothing says “I’m against that thing” like a one dollar donation.
Hate crimes need to be punished
Do you think Harvard cares about the alumni with an endowment of $50.9 billion...
It's possible to criticize Israel without threatening Jewish students. There's a line that can be crossed here.
Actually that's far from the truth. Physical altercation is becoming more brazen.
@@jestubay9006 Respond to what I actually said. I'm not speaking about or condoning physical assaults.
It is entirely possible to criticize anyone or anything without being threatening, The capacity to form an argument and remain civil requires maturity and conviction.
Israelis have been criticizing Israel’s govt and policies for ages. It’s the double standards that israel and Jews face that’s making everything so bad.
if they're barging into classrooms uninvited, they're trespassing, if they're interrupting classes and refusing to let teachers teach, then that's disorderly conduct, and hate speech, well it's hate speech, pretty self explanatory. Have them arrested if they don't understand their right to protest and to the 1st amendment does not give them permission to ignore other laws, and other people's rights.
Follow the money. Higher education is big business and the colleges want to please the consumers.
Remove all funding. Federal and private.
Time for a class action lawsuit for current students and alumni.
I wonder if you can sue for loss of a brand name you paid for? If the leaders took your money then ran the brand name so far down it was worse than useless to you. Let's ask a lawyer but not one from Harvard.
I believe alumni sued the train-wreck school, Evergreen, in Washington State, for that reason.
A significant amount of many Ivy League universities receives their funding from CAIR with is the nation's largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization. There is a reason for everything that is happening.
the problem might be unchecked qatari donations
The alumni should have stepped up long ago as WOKE and Marksist ideaology has taken over.
Maybe people should not be hired because some sort of DEI proscription
We need more Trade Schools. These so called prestigious Schools are nothing but a money Grab.
Well not everyone is suited for the skilled trades.
I wouldn’t send any of my kids to these schools
They should feel embarrassed by Harvard. I no longer support the university that my husband and I went to as we don’t care for indoctrination. We also don’t support professors that have never had life experience. They went through BS, MS, and PHD without ever leaving the coddled environment of school. I don’t want to see them teaching my grandchildren.
No one believes Harvard’s 50-something *billion dollar* endowment just isn’t doing great! Bish pleeze! You’ll be fine Harvard.
They will continue getting tons of money from terror supporting middle eastern Islamic states. No worries.
Harvard has become the Pariah of Schools (and deservedly so)
I know many business owners who will no longer hire individuals from these places. I predict enrollment will be down.
Oh yes, Claudine Gay testified before Congress all right, and we know the outcome: a shocking complacency toward ant-semitic speech and a failure to hold anyone accountable.
How much money, hard work and resources along with time have people eagerly paid to go to Harvard? What value does Harvard offer if it’s all just pandering to big oil in the Middle East or whomever is the highest bidder?
Alumni and alumnae are the plurals for alumnus and alumna . 'Alum' and 'alumns' are not real words.
Someone disrupts my class? No.
I hope they get a wake up call that will shake them to their senses.
Imagine how disruptive genocide is.
What about columbia u and berkeley?
I’ve heard that some donors want to get their money back. I thought these donations were for the good of all students equally. And that the donations not favor one individual or group over another. And that the University is free to use the money as it sees fit without donor retaliation?
Harvard Alums should direct their donations to Universities that actually have Ethics, Morals and CommonSense
They are probably more alarmed by the fact that the value of their degree(s) from Harvard are dropping fast
How about addressing antihumanism? That is far more destructive.
Shouldn’t people be asked to research both side?
It’s a global embarrassment. US needs to get your house in order
Cut the funding
Then just draft and send a letter of disassociation together with the diploma back to Harvard or Redcliffe College.
$1.00 donations send an important message.
why schools do not have funding and over charge students
Classic dictionary example.
You get what you pay for.
😂😂😂😂
Stop all tax dollars to colleges. P.s. no person should be allowed to hold an advanced degree without being able to change a flat tire on the highway. Unless physically handicapped.
Gay needs to go. That will send a message to the staff & students that their nonsense must stop.
If you went to Harvard, you should be ashamed.
I actually expected a bit more condemnation of antisemitism. I might have gotten it wrong, but it seems like being interrupted I the class room was as disturbing as calling for genocide
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Dear Harvard Alumni, donate to your local JEWISH schools instead of that institution of hatred.
The Singular of Alumni IS alumnus Not alum