How to Freeze Motion In the Photography Studio Using Flash

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  • čas přidán 31. 10. 2021
  • Action freezing examples include a dancer jumping and long hair blowing with a fan as we examine flash duration and how much you need to overpower the ambient light to freeze action in the studio or on location.
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    Rough Transcript
    Well as you saw at the beginning of this video, I've been conducting flash duration tests this week for todays video.
    But before we get into the results, we have to set the table.
    Flash tubes emit pulses of light each time you take a photo, often with the burst being more intense in the beginning and then trailing off over time. The length of time that light is emitting from the flash is known as the flash duration. You can imagine this if you recall the effect of being blasted in the face with an on-camera strobe while posing for a photo. Flash duration can be expressed in two ways - t.1 and t.5. t.5 is when the intensity of the pulse reduces to 50% of its maximum intensity and t.1 is when the pulse drops to 10% of the maximum. The graph from Sekonic, demonstrates the relationship. T.1 numbers are far more useful to me than t.5 numbers, because they more fully represent the information but there isn't a formula to convert t.5 specs to t.1.
    Flash duration specs for your light will most likely be in your manual.
    Sync speed
    The fastest your camera can send a signal to a flash normally and have it fire while the shutter is open is known as the sync speed.
    In the studio, your camera’s sync speed isn’t much of an issue unless you have a lot of ambient light in the room. Typically if you’re adding so much flash to your scene that an exposure without that flash at the same settings would result in a black image, the only thing freezing motion in your frame is the flash duration. So effectively the flash duration becomes the shutter speed.
    However, if you are using flash at 1/200 of a second, a common sync speed, with moving subjects outdoors during the day or in a bright room, you can get blurry images regardless of your flash duration because the ambient light will have an effect on your exposure, so you will want to either overpower the ambient light or you will want to use a shutter speed that can freeze motion on its own, but the only way to do that is high-speed sync and that is a whole other video.
    I first learned of flash duration in the late 90’s when I was just a spry 18 year old photographer and I wanted to light an NBA arena. The older photographers I knew said you need a duration of 1/2000 or faster and you need to overpower the ambient by two stops in order to freeze basketball. I never ended up lighting an NBA game, but I did use this knowledge for college basketball, pretend basketball and minor league hockey. I just assumed what they said to be true and over the years I have questioned wether or not their advice was accurate.
    So in a few moments we're going to investigate how fast your duration needs to be to freeze a dancer jumping through the air and how much you need to over power the ambient while photographing a model with long hair blowing in the artificial wind. Knowing your flash duration can also be important for applications other than extreme movement. I have seen motion blur in my frames when I was photographing models just posing in the studio and my flash duration was longer than t.5 1/1000 of a second.
    Reducing the power output of your lights, unusually results in faster flash duration, but some models, like the Profoto D1, have their fastest flash duration at full power, so consult your manual to learn what power settings will result in the fastest duration and slowest duration for your light. But for most units, the fastest duration for your light will be at minimum power. So the brighter you make the flash the slower the duration will become.
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Komentáře • 88

  • @Pezinokrm
    @Pezinokrm Před 2 lety +3

    Wow! finally a well produced and informative CZcams on freezing action well done!

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety

      Wow! Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @jameslaw1957
    @jameslaw1957 Před 2 lety

    Thank you, John, for being one of the few CZcamsrs I watch who actually replies to posts and connects with their subscribers. I often see people commenting on the topic of a video and asking the presenter questions, which never seem to be answered. I understand there are thousands of subscribers if not millions, so replies have to be kept to a minimum, but I rarely see replies from other CZcamsrs. It is nice to this in this post. Cheers!

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks James. It's my pleasure! If people are going to take 10-15 minutes to watch and comment, the least I can do is take a minute to respond.

  • @hendersonribeirobrandina2120

    High quality content, as always. Thank you very much! Congrats from Brazil!

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      Muito Obrigado! My Pleasure.

  • @londonschoolofwigmaking5793

    I started using flash heads when I was 18 (I'm in my 50's now), and got a very basic kit of two 160w heads to learn with. I soon bought a soft box and a very poor quality boom arm, and set about learning to use them. I still remember having a friend pose for me when the weight of the soft box on the crappy boom arm toppled over and started falling towards my friends head. I can still remember the look on her face as it started tipping towards her......luckily I caught the stand in time........but it still makes me laugh, all these years later. I was always tripping over the cables too, because space was limited in my kitchen......so that bit at the end cracked me up.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před rokem

      Ha! It’s a great argument for battery powered lights! I started off with similar gear and I can remember every time that a boom fell over and broke something🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @samuell.hodgesjr.1577
    @samuell.hodgesjr.1577 Před 2 lety +1

    That is right. Knowing how to set your lights and camera setting make a big difference in freezing your subject.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      And I am sure stopping something like water droplets requires even shorter duration.

    • @aniqass_
      @aniqass_ Před 2 lety

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  • @luisarevalo6112
    @luisarevalo6112 Před 2 lety

    Your presentation cleared up how flash duration actuay works at different settings, the best! I'm so much more confident having this information, thank you.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety

      That is great to hear! I love when the process of making a video helps me and others in the future!

  • @tonymccrackin
    @tonymccrackin Před 2 lety +1

    This information is incredible to know, and presented so clearly. Thank you so much, I've been so confused by this concept.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      You're so welcome! This used to be one of the hardest thing for me to explain, but doing it over and over in person at my workshops really helped me to clarify the information. Of course doing this experiment really helped too.

  • @bobsykes
    @bobsykes Před 2 lety +3

    Fascinating! The detail available from sensors today really changes how we (older folks like me) thought about everything. I totally get that you're teaching how to reliably get the screaming detail that some clients want in certain photos with frozen motion, but to my taste, the first, most "blurry" photo of the model with the fan blowing is hair is the best photo of them all.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      I just have OCD 😂 Do you prefer the motion or the pose?

    • @samuell.hodgesjr.1577
      @samuell.hodgesjr.1577 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, getting frozen motion of long hair blowing in the wind, certainly does add impact to your model.

  • @DenisContext
    @DenisContext Před rokem

    Thanks for that clear explaining John!

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před rokem

      Thanks Denis! Glad it was helpful!

  • @TheMrsamuelcm76
    @TheMrsamuelcm76 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this John

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety

      No problem. Thank you Samuel!

  • @BAPcaptures
    @BAPcaptures Před rokem

    exceptional breakdown. You are a teacher. Thanks.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před rokem

      Thanks Brian! I really appreciate it!🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @londonschoolofwigmaking5793

    Brilliant.

  • @sheridansheridan8946
    @sheridansheridan8946 Před 2 lety +3

    This was really valuable information, and very clearly presented. Thanks for this - I haven't seen this presented anywhere else in this manner. Much appreciated!

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety

      Wow! Glad it was helpful! I feel like this is one of the hardest concepts to explain and I have been meaning to make this video for a while now.

    • @sheridansheridan8946
      @sheridansheridan8946 Před 2 lety

      @@JohnGress Very glad you did, and it's something I've avoided shooting because I found it frustrating and difficult to understand. Now I have the tools to make it happen!

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety

      Thank is great to hear!

  • @Enzor1515
    @Enzor1515 Před rokem

    Wow this video helped me out immensely thanks JG

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před rokem

      That’s great to hear! Thanks!

  • @lkfs55
    @lkfs55 Před 2 lety

    thanks John - great info

  • @chrisiclickyou3947
    @chrisiclickyou3947 Před 2 lety +1

    Very nice details!

  • @luissalazar2021
    @luissalazar2021 Před 2 lety

    Lates 80s, wow, me too, I was Monte assistant, but he didn’t teach me about the photography business . Thanks for sharing

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety

      You are so welcome. Thank you!

  • @user-uo2fg2mo3k
    @user-uo2fg2mo3k Před 4 měsíci

    A tight script... no rambling war stories -- which is refreshing -- and you didn't jump cut the hell out if it -- also refreshing. Nice indeed. Thank you for taking time do to this. This is my first time on your site and I will likely be back. Oh, I did learn something is this short example of your teaching style. Again... nice video work and straightforward style.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you so much! I hate jump cuts too and you’ll rarely see me do it. I hide all my mistakes under the photos. 😄

  • @fangbifxx
    @fangbifxx Před 2 lety +1

    Very useful information

  • @suewinsley
    @suewinsley Před 2 lety

    Excellent information… our 2 year old model doesn’t like to sit still and I’ve been wondering about getting less motion without having to use HSS. Thank you very much. 🙂

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      Those pesky 2 year old models! Thanks!

  • @siwoodward2390
    @siwoodward2390 Před 2 lety +1

    Mazing video thanks, so easy to follow and understand. How did you know how many stops over the ambient you were? Was it just a case of finding the exact point where ambient light is eliminated and then move up two stops any which way you choose?

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! I used the meter to tell me what the ambient light was, but I also could have taken a properly exposed image without flash to determine the ambient light, and then counted the difference in exposure between the ambient light and the flash.

  • @kongchang1
    @kongchang1 Před rokem

    Excellent tutorial ! be safe from loose cord.👍👍

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před rokem

      Thanks! It's a great reason to own more battery powered lights.

  • @bns.online
    @bns.online Před rokem

    Hi there, thanks for sharing your knowledge. Great content! I‘m asking myself if I could achieve similar results by setting the exposure to 1/500s? Wouldn‘t this freeze the subject perfectly as well and make the strobe settings not that crucial for over all sharpness? Or could you please help me to understand what the visual difference would be than in the result? Many thanks in advance!

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před rokem

      1/500 would most likely mean you would be switching the stobes over to HSS and that would also likely cause a reduction in brightness. But more importantly 1/500 couldn't freeze the movement. Maybe 1/2500 could do it, but back when I was shooting football the ball and fingers weren't frozen at that shutter speed.

  • @nilofido411
    @nilofido411 Před 2 lety

    I also love hypersync for freezings motion...

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      The gradient it creates within the image can be very problematic.

  • @MokeVsls
    @MokeVsls Před měsícem

    Super useful to see this test with numbers vs power outputs, I'm facing a mixed light situation and not super happy with freeze mode (Profoto D2 1000ws), cause the ambient is still leaking in and blur the further details. I went to freeze mode instead of Hi-speed cause I can't have the subject available for a long time (sport celebrity) and needed to take as more shots as possible without him repeating the action vs me shooting only a few frames per action (hi-speed can't recycle as fast as freeze mode but overpowers ambient ofc). Still, in this extreme case, next time I would probably rely on Hi-speed with a slower but more syncronized pace between my finger and the ideal pose. Or go for a battery pack (Pro10 or 11) so I can freeze at a proportionally higher output capability from the unit.
    Does it sounds correct to you?
    Thanks, great video as usual!

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před měsícem

      In order to maximize flash duration, you need to lower the power. Limiting ambient light in that situation is also essential. If it's too bright and you can't control the it, then high-speed sync is the only way to go. In most situations where I am photographing athletes, there's a peak moment that you need to capture, so timing it with one single frame isn't necessarily a bad thing. Sure, you'll be a little bit late or a little early sometimes, but you have to do what you have to do.

  • @johnwilkinson9194
    @johnwilkinson9194 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent content as always! Quick question, what is the base and boom you're using for the large octa around the 6:50 mark?

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks! Here is the stand - it's a great value! adorama.rfvk.net/qnONWO

    • @johnwilkinson9194
      @johnwilkinson9194 Před 2 lety +1

      @@JohnGress Thanks for the info, that's the exact one I've been eyeing and will purchase it today as it is on sale. Any chance you have the model for the boom attachment? Thanks!

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety

      Great to hear! Sure thing - adorama.rfvk.net/rnJb3G

  • @Enzor1515
    @Enzor1515 Před rokem

    Hey John how are you getting the ambient light reading?

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před rokem

      I used my lightmeter to measure it as seen in this scene czcams.com/video/Y-Vy9mg3T_o/video.html

  • @arthur3038
    @arthur3038 Před 2 lety

    great Video John (again). Hot topic.. Without knowing how many times Fernando had to jump, I am impressed by your and his precision. It's just as you state: The challenge is, to determine how frozen a movement should be. It seems really difficult to me to get a precisely controlled blur of movement and only of the body part you are aiming for. On the other hand, (ultra-)short flash duration are associated with a high loss of light output. (except obviously with Profoto). One can ask oneself whether the goals can be better achieved with LED light and fast shutter speeds. But there again other concerns have to come to the photographer's attention..

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks Arthur. To shoot with the LED lights I was using in the same conditions at 1/4000 f7.1 you would need to shoot at ISO 400,000. If you moved that light into the softbox above him you might be looking at 1/4000 f7.1 ISO 50,000. Lets say you shot at f4, the feet would be out of focus and lets say you used the Nanlight Forza 500. You would still be looking at around ISO 12,000. Which is why stopping motion with LEDs as well as you can stop it with flash isn't really possible. If you want to do it with hard light, then it could be viable.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      Also thank you for your kind words about the precision. He jumped 3-4 times every time I changed the exposure and it took maybe 40 jumps to figure out what our approach should be. One think I didn't consider is I was taking the photos at the apex of his movement which means he might have actually been moving slower at that point than on his way up or down.
      I really got my timing down while shooting baseball and trying to get the ball on the bat during hits.

  • @JMDPhotography-Chi
    @JMDPhotography-Chi Před 2 lety

    Could the direction of your light have influenced your results also since it was directed mostly down (or looked it in the video) versus pointed directly at the subject?

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      In an ideal world if the light was located behind a camera and all of the movement was towards the camera, then the flash duration could be longer and result in frozen images compared to what you see here. But that’s highly unlikely

    • @samuell.hodgesjr.1577
      @samuell.hodgesjr.1577 Před 2 lety

      Yes. Light is used to highlight or defuse your scene.
      Light also gives the scene mood depending on where it points and how bright it is at what it is lighting.
      For example, if you want an ominous mood, set the light low and pointing up at your model.
      The background light is low to pull the model out and this low light creates eerie shadows on the model.
      Check out some tutorial on lighting.

  • @manoharmgr8235
    @manoharmgr8235 Před 2 lety +1

    SUPER. SUPER , THE BEST
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  • @carlosazevedophotography8892

    Can't get how you determine how many stops are you from ambient exposure. How do you do this>?

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety

      You use your meter or test frames to measure the ambient light, then you count the number of whole f stops (or ISO or shutter speed) between your flash exposure and the ambient flight. If this doesn't make sense, searching for "exposure triangle" may help.

  • @Strravaganza
    @Strravaganza Před 11 měsíci

    On 04:54 you say "but some models like the profoto d1 have their fastest flash duration their fastest flash duration at full power", while the manual for this flash states otherwise, it is at maximum capability that the pulse has its maximum duration. Is someone wrong?

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 11 měsíci

      This is what the d1 500 manual states. "Flash duration t0.5 min-
      max power 1/1000-1/2600" So max power has the shortest duration.

    • @Strravaganza
      @Strravaganza Před 11 měsíci

      @@JohnGress Yes, I found it on the official site, that's exactly what it says. Which looks very strange. It looks like a practice test is required to clarify this question.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 11 měsíci

      Its clear. Min power is t.5 1/1000, max power is t.5 1/2600.

    • @Strravaganza
      @Strravaganza Před 11 měsíci

      @@JohnGress This is against the laws of physics. However, until I personally try, I will not say anything.

  • @tmhart43
    @tmhart43 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow, that’s a lot to take in, but super interesting. Your content is always different than what I see anywhere else. Hopefully not a dumb question, maybe I missed this. Are you metering ambient (it’s non-existent in the black frame, obviously). How do you know how many stops over it you are? Too much math, lol.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for watching! I know it's a lot of math! This is probably one of the hardest topics to explain which is why I am reading a script. But I guess when I wrote it, I glossed over that detail and just showed a clip of me metering the ambient light as I stated the reading. The simplest way would be to set your camera to whatever exposure you think you need for the flash duration and then take a picture without flash and see if its pretty much blank.
      But, If you have a meter and you read that the ambient is 1/200 f2.0 ISO 400 then you would count up 3-stops: 2.8, 4, and 5.6. So in this example you would want to shoot with flash so that the brightness is at least 1/200 f5.6 ISO 400. Maybe a simpler way of figuring it out is to shoot a properly exposed photo without flash in manual at 1/200 (your sync speed), f-whatever you need, ISO whatever you're using. Then spin the aperture wheel up 3 stops, probably 9 clicks, and that's where you want to be or stopped down even more.

    • @tmhart43
      @tmhart43 Před 2 lety

      @@JohnGress very helpful! Thank you.

  • @carlosazevedophotography8892

    I am confused on the example around 13min where you have a lower 1/X where X is the lower value compared to the first example. On the first example you had X much higher and froze the action.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety

      I can't answer your question without knowing the minute and second you are referring to.

  • @kevinyounger7854
    @kevinyounger7854 Před 2 lety +1

    “…as well as a small sticker…”. 😆

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety

      LOL where did that come from anyway!

  • @lim2001burger
    @lim2001burger Před 2 lety

    Real question is: what flash duration setting did you use to get rid of the sticker on the rear foot? 😂

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před 2 lety

      Did it disappear at some point? 🤣

  • @Meth0z
    @Meth0z Před rokem

    Wait a second.. the light starts at 0.1 power... doubles to 0.2... and then doubles again all the way to 1.2? this is so confusing lmao

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Před rokem +1

      .2 to 1.2 is a full f-stop worth of power. This is true for many light brands that don't use fractions. It's similar to the f-stop on your lens, opening up one f-stop doubles the light that comes in.

    • @Meth0z
      @Meth0z Před rokem

      @@JohnGress ok, but what i dont understand well is.. it starts at 0.1 right? double that is 0.2.. does that doubling means also double stop?
      so if im shooting f5.6 at 0.1... i would go f8 at 0.2? and then f11 would be 1.2 power?

  • @pertang630
    @pertang630 Před měsícem

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