I'm a retired Sheriff's Officer (K-9 Unit for 15 years of...) This is the ONLY "dog training" channel I have EVER subscribed too. (LOL, about 5 minutes ago). There is so much nonsense out there for people to learn (especially towards positive reinforcement) which is actually a very delicate situation when dealing with "jerk%$f" dogs (and stay P.C.) This man knows his S$%T. TRUST ME!!! It is something that can not be trained into a person... he UNDERSTANDS the dynamics (psych) of dogs/pack animals, not just simply the fundamentals. And also, dog training is very complicated to explain to others; when explaining what/how/who/why is happening... yet he does an excellent "layman's" way of communicating it. Great job, all around!
I really wish I posted this comment under "Wild session with a young people and dog reactive German Shepherd".... Which happened to be the 1st video I've watched, on this channel (this was the second video). Understanding the "weeding out" of environmental conditions (such as protective instincts) , ASTONISHED my 'like-minded-ness',. Recognizing there was more complex breeding/genetic (personality) issues as the root cause, of its relentless behavior. I was SERIOUSLY IMPRESSED!
@@darken3150 i agree, I'm not optimistic about that one, 😄... I said to myself (the German Shepherd); this looks like a classic case of a young puppy (still is), where the family encouraged this behavior and reinforced/rewarded it, because it was cute...At first!!! Now that it's maturing (plus genetics/breed/etc.) they're trying to back-peddle, realizing it's a going to be a problem... Unfortunately they might have already ruined that dog (for what it was intended for), a kind house-pet. Definitely the wrong breed choice for that family. (He was probably born already knowing what a bite sleeve was) It's understandable....and very common, they didn't know any better. Best of luck to them though.
My husky was skittish as a puppy. We took her to the park one day and there was a small pitbull that was friendly and slowly coaxed my dog into playing. My husky was never afraid of other dogs again. And she developed another trait...she hates seeing other dogs fight. She breaks up fights at the park and often checks on everyone there to see if they're ok.
My Husky is the same way! He actually gets distressed seeing other dogs fighting and he starts howling as if saying: "Can't we all just get along?" 😂😂😂😂
My dog Murph is s sensitive black mouthed cur. He avoids conflict at all times until he's pushed. Then he acts just like Prince - it always works. I have to tell other owners (after they get over initial energy spike) that they let things be and that no one will get hurt and they'll all get along. Murph is so mindful he even checks that my cat has treats when he gets one :)
I honestly think he mostly understands exactly what he’s doing and why. He knows he’s there to help and teach and he takes it seriously. He never really hurts them or takes it any further than necessary and he doesn’t take any of it personally. I’d say he shows more professionalism and emotional intelligence than a lot of *people* do. It’s crazy how calm and responsive he stays. Very unique and cool dog.
I'm sure the high-stress moments make up a very tiny fraction of his daily routine. He'll have had a good life with lots of positive reinforcement training from the moment his training began. Now, the work he does as an adult, what all that training was geared to, is probably going to be water off a duck's back to him. Like any other animal (including humans), he does what he was raised to do. Nothing more, nothing less.
@@jdisdetermined "I’d say he shows more professionalism and emotional intelligence than a lot of people do" It's all down to how an individual was raised, no matter the species of animal.
Dogs absolutely *thrive* off having jobs & a purpose - the happiest dogs you'll ever meet are all working dogs, whether that's sheepdogs, K9s, guide dogs, guard dogs, professional foxhounds, etc. Just like us, they get huge amounts of satisfaction and fulfillment out of doing something worthwhile.
This is why socialization between dogs is so important. People can't only socialize dogs with other people, they have to let them be around other dogs, because only a dog can teacher another dog how to be a dog.
Cat's too. I think pack/social animals, regardless of how much should generally have a buddy in a similar system. Could have two dogs, two cats, a cat and a dog, but something social that can communicate in animal helps a lot. It can also help encourage shy/aggressive animals to chill with supervision. We got my kitty a buddy and they've both helped each other be so much more comfortable, especially our more shy boy.
that aint even proper socialization. they should both be on leashes. this is just the owners insecurity about his own ability to control his dogs behavior on full display
@@unkownperson9250??? Leashing dogs is important of course, but it doesn't replace socialization! If you only get your dog used to the leash and don't train it to actually get along with other dogs physically, then it will be scared and dangerous as soon as it meets a dog that isn't leashed. That is when it barks or even bites, out of fear.
It's amazing to see the altercation in slow motion. In real time it looks harsh. But when slowed, you can see Prince's restraint and he's not actually hurting the other dog. More so a warning to back off. Very informative. Great dog and trainer!
Very much reminded me of a parent teaching the pup in no uncertain terms, no - you will not do that- you will get whooped. (In the gentlest manner possible.)
It was definitely a display, like shaking branches for the gorilla. You see this in many creatures, it's one of those impressive things as well. Maybe more so with mammals?
@@iagreewithyou3478 I've been working with dogs for about 10 years. Over time it gets easier to tell when the crap is getting ready to hit the fan. Dogs pass on a ton of information to other dogs, and humans, with their body language. It's just a matter of learning how to decipher it and act as needed. When I saw how that hound reacted through the fence I was hoping he would muzzle him.
It's probably also WHY it helps so much tbh? It IS scary to us, that is not friendly and positive Human teaching, but DOG teaching? He's speaking dog to dog and helping him come to a healthy place in life. Is a very good Working Professional Doggo
I think the great thing about prince is that he does all the actions of biting and dominance without any actual biting or harm done. He’ll bare his teeth and even open his mouth right up against the other dogs neck but it’s all just a warning because he never does the ‘chomp’. All the communication without any harm. And during the slow motion you can see just how in control of each muscle and movement Prince is, especially in comparison to the other dog!
alot of people would disagree there's many reviews of his dog biting😂 and only an idiot would put a muzzle on a dog while the other one doesn't on top of that prince didn't even listen when told to back off untill he wanted to not when told prince is a dangerous dog do your research mate for fuck sake just look at his business reviews
@@OkiSmokey ignore josh. if his dog bit other dogs, there would be pictures and evidence all over the internet. not "google reviews" that anyone can leave. the comments go like "i watched his videos and his dog is biting other dogs!" Not real. the only negative reviews are the ones complaining about his methods or prices.
@@Mishakeet I planned to look into it dw, I prefer to do my own research rather than blindly trust people on the internet whether they agree with me or not!
Beautiful body language at 5:38 You will see Prince's ears are up, but he then lowers them respectfully at his owner. Prince is showing his owner he is friendly and submissive to him, while also controlling this situation with the other dog. Thought it was super cute and shows the beautiful bond the dog and owner share. Good boy Prince ;)
...Prince is a terrifyingly intelligent dog, and you are incredibly good at explaining these barky creatures. Especially with the slow motion break down.
Terrifyingly intelligent? You think he's going to take over the world or some shit? Barky creatures? Quit trying to be overly creative in your writing. It's bad.
I have a Staffy+St Bernard mixed pup named Kissy and he has been helping me train 2 other of his littermates that ... well they aren't very bright. How Primce directs this Beagle is identical to what Kissy has been doing! He's only 6mo old, too, and after seeing this vid, I am thanking my lucky stars for such an amazing dog!!! This summer had a lot of blackberries and I make organic jam each year. Kissy went with me every day to pick. First day, he learned what the berries were. By the 2nd day after watching me closely, he learned which were ripe and how to carefully grab them without stabbing his snoot ... and that I was gathering only the ripe ones. Then Kissy invented a "game" we did for the rest of the 2nd day - he would run ahead of me and scout for bushes with lots of ripe berries, then would let out this single, sharp bark to get my attention. Once I (his much slower human companion) figured out he was finding the berries for me anf signalling, we'd roll around and I'd reward him with a handful of berries. I love my Kissy boy so much!!!
The best part of this was Prince getting his nerves eased from dad, just being like "I didn't want to get angry dad, but he made me, now he's following me and yelling at me" I would love to have the ability to put my dog with Prince
This is literally the most logical way I’ve seen to train a dog. You see wolves and you see they have a hierarchy of respect for one another, if one acts out, they get disciplined by other members of the family, so it’s no surprise that it will have the same effect on a dog. Probably the only reason I don’t see this often is because it takes a lot of effort to raise a dog that is effectively your right hand and understands exactly what their job is
You recall on a bullshit theory of hierarchy that no one actually uses anymore, even the first person to claim it existed has retracted that dumb statement, in the wild, wolves are a family and parents regulate things, exactly how it works for people. the only reason a dog is aggressive is fear. You scaring them more doesn't help and it is sad to see people still do it only for the dog to end up worse and claim its genetic.
@@christhorney yal stupid as hell there is no submission except from that muzzle. this aint even proper training. its forced dog park mentality that isnt fair to the dog in the long run. the dog should be checked by the owner not another dog. that poor dog probably has had to deal with a bunch of entitled owners that cant keep their dogs on a leash.
It was beautiful to watch Prince handle himself with equal parts intelligence, self-control, and strength. He applied an amount of force equal to what the situation called for and then followed the dog around a bit to make SURE his boundaries were being remembered. What a great right-hand “man” for a dog behaviorist. 😅
This makes me wonder if a lot of the behavioral problems dogs have come from the fact that they are biologically programmed to work these things out in the context of a pack of other dogs, but we raise them alongside humans and separate from other dogs. You make a very interesting point that it's best that they learn the lesson from another dog!
It's true! The same way with horses. Watch a baby interact with it's mother once. They're the first ones to reprimand and correct bad behaviors. Momma horses do not mess around with their foals, they teach them well, especially experienced moms.
The thing is, you shouldn't get a puppy too young from its litter. There's a minimum age for people to get puppies so that they would get to develop good temperaments.
Yep. Dogs that are well taught by their mommas and well socialized have a lot less issues. Obviously not all dogs are the same, like not all people are the same, but generally it's true.
Dogs learn their best socializing from their mother and siblings. They learn what's acceptable and not and that there are consequences. After that, it's important to keep them socialized.
That, and the fact there is nothing lost in translation when a dog is corrected by another. You really have to consider what's actually at play here. If you ask me I don't think the dog was being a " jerk " per se. He could quite easily (since he was the perceived first dog in the grounds) have been resource guarding and viewed Prince as a threat to his unabetted unfettered access to a " safe space " perhaps expecting it's barking and persistence to be enough to keep him away. Painfully unaware of the tribulations to follow. His behaviour might suggest otherwise but imo its really hard to discern the psychological effect taking their means of protection away, has on their behaviour, such as the use of a muzzle. We know why the muzzle is important and this is exactly why humans and dog's together are the perfect team to help a perceived " aggressive " dog work out it's behavioural issues.
My oldest dog teaches all my other dogs how to be hunters, guard dogs, and have character. Second oldest makes sure the oldest doesn’t overpower. Second oldest makes sure no one is fighting each other. The rest of the dogs just follow and listen to these two lmao I study them a lot
theyre pack animals, that definitely makes sense. those two seem like the parents of the family like in a wolfpack and they just cover one another and watch over the rest of the group keeping them unified. theyre a real family :( all dogs deserve a properly structured pack. would be kind of nice to see a world where this training is made the mandatory, (if it truly works, which, this is my first video of this im watching, but why wouldnt it. its how dogs are in the wild when theyre wolves. except its more of a family unit rather than just an assembled pack of seperate dogs intermixing as a group..) or even one where a mother and father canine should always stay together and form a healthy bond and the pack can grow from them. that of course would mean dog ownership would become sort of limited though. but... its like children, most people are not born ready to provide for a dog. let alone a kid.
@@FWAKWAKKA I am Asian and I have always found that Asian grandmothers are very good at handling bratty or aggressive dogs. Same for Latina grandmothers as I've observed from countless videos. It would seem that families/societies that have strong filial piety and family bond have a better idea at handling dogs. Which does makes sense cause, like you said, wolves in the wild for packs around families. Matriarchs, or the grandmothers, of an Asian family already know the ins and outs of raising a family.
I love that you said "he might have hit prince, there might have been a bite in there": so many times people assume a dog bit without recognizing the nuance between a touch, a hit, a nip, and a bite. Prince touched him right back but didn't bite him, just touched him because the other dog touched Prince first. Perfect.
I forgot the exact name of the technique/practice/method (or however you want to call it) but the best training and behavior correction technique, revolves around having a specially trained K9 correcting dogs with behavior issues, while their owners stand in one place with them on the leash. Don't know the logic or science behind it but it works better than any other behavior correction method we have today because it's entirely, 100% natural, it is incomparably more effective than any other method and most importantly, it doesn't get humans involved in behavior corrections in any way, shape or form, all the communication and work is done by the specially trained K9's themselves. There are some correction facilities who practice this and have CZcams channels, the channel I liked the most is called ''Gun Dog-Tv'' because they deal with all kinds of dogs, even dogs who are really, really aggressive and their K9 fixes them in no time!
@@nogerboher5266 the way prince acts is not a training thing…it’s a breeder thing and exactly why GOOD breeders are so important. That dog is so even tempered, a lot of work went into selecting the parents to create prince. That’s genetics not training. Training adds to it but you can’t train a even temperament
Prince has a gentile personality, he expects manners and respect. He is controlled in corrections, never (that I've seen) going farther than needed. They are such a wonderful working team, lucky to have the other that they 100% trust each other.
@@buttercup132 I know... I was just saying that there is an actual training / behavior correction method that exists, that does this same exact thing that he was somewhat doing/trying to do with Prince in this video. He should try it out, Prince would be the perfect dog for it.
Very scary! Buuuuut I think yes useful, my ignorance has led me to not be able how to train my rescue not to react to big dogs. But she needs to learn to respect space. This is good technique, I think
This is rather brilliant. Prince can speak "dog" better than any human ever could. You understand the bigger picture and strategize the ways Prince can be most effective in getting his point across.
Lol you guys are funny. They're literally saying that dogs can communicate directly, and humans can't 😂 he said that to refer to the effective strategy the trainer decided to go for instead of just teaching Luke himself.
this is exactly how my dogs learned. my oldest dog (Maggie) did this our other dog (Gus) when we got him. no bitting or attacking, just corrections. now Gus does this to our newest pup! he is correcting her when she is too aggressive during playing, or does something that isn't appropriate in our house. again, no bitting and no attacking. corrections only. best thing was, we didn't train them to do this at all! it was all instinct!
It's amazing to have a big, strong dog that uses his strength to warn and correct instead of bite back. My Dutch shepherd (I'm dutch too) also warns, but will bite if the attacker proceeds to attack. I cannot teach other dogs with that behaviour, but your dog is perfect for it. Lovely dog you have!
I remember seeing this for the first time at a family BBQ where two cousins brought their dogs over. One was a lab with terrible aggression issues and the other was a great dane. We expected that they’d have to be kept separate all afternoon but the black lab had a go at the great dane, was really quickly put in his place and then they happily wandered around together until the end! As someone who didn’t grow up with dogs I was amazed.
Dane correcting a lab…. similar to this video. Seems like an aggressive dog needs a bigger dog to be told to calm down. Wondering what happens if the bigger dog is the aggressor? 🤷🏼
@TMCS positive reinforcement is moreso for training puppies and housebreaking. Learning how to act and socialize is something that humans can’t really give to dogs, because we’re two different species who see completely different concepts and feel different emotions.
@TMCS Lmao imagine reacting to someone agreeing with you that way and ultimately calling yourself uneducated… This obviously isn’t someone who has ever had a debate before. Can’t even pick up on when one is happening, let alone come up with a valid rebuttal.
@TMCS You also didn’t even reference which ‘research papers’ have been published, nor give any examples of who they’re published by. Nor did you show any of the ‘literature searches’ you say you have done… So if this was a debate, you would have already lost.
This is part of why it's so important for puppies to stay with their mothers for an appropriate amount of time. The mothers initially give an important foundation to puppy behavior-they teach their pups bite force control, how to play without being too rough, when it's time to stop. How to give space. Dogs that have secure attachment teach other dogs best.
Yeah, unfortunatly this is common puppy mill practice to sell newborn pups and people refuse to understand how much it damages the dogs psyche, so many basic skills it needs to learn in its development goes unchecked
@@Cactuscupholder exactly. What sucks even more, these same people blame the dog for behavior it never had the chance to learn and then abandon them or drop them off at a kill shelter
@@Cactuscupholder That's probably the case unfortunately. A lot of vets agree that 8 weeks is the minimum-which means that a few weeks longer is probably better for the puppy to feel supported and have better behavior from its mom solidified. But it's also important for owners of a new dog to continue that work of showing non-aggressive disapproval when the pup does something inappropriate and rewarding appropriate behavior. I'd imagine not doing this can undo a lot of work the mother dog did in the first place!
I love the moments you let Prince decompress with you and it’s just you talking to him. You can see he knows how loved he is. He is so great at what he does … a true helper dog.
I used to work as a school psychologist and it's remarkable how similar dogs and humans really are when learning about boundary setting and aggression. You handled this perfectly, I'm so glad to see you making content like this and helping dogs and their owners alike
exactly why theres so much bs going on in the world, were now being taught that correcting bad peoples behaviour isnt allowed and people are going around doing and saying what they want without any fear of physical confrontation
@@BenjaminBoxI think they were talking about exposure therapy, and assertive behavior. People will push and push until they learn they are not allowed to, not through extreme fighting but through boundary setting. If the dog was passive and let it happen, the other dog would have learned nothing. Asserting that authority in an appropriate amount is necessary, and letting it happen in the first place. Most people trying to train their dogs to be less aggressive don’t take this route of exposure
Prince is a really good psychologist of his own -- every time he responded to the hound, he de-escalated things. The hound went at his side, Prince just opened his mouth and put his front leg on the hound's neck, then backed off. The hound went at him again, and Prince opened his mouth and laid it on the hound's neck, but nothing more. He responded every time, but in a "take it easy, buddy" way. He's very socially deft and good at what he does.
As someone who works with a variety of shelter dogs nearly every day, this it the most practical and helpful channel I’ve come across. From timid chihuahuas and a neglected Doberman to a dominant Akita and a highly reactive Belgian Malinois. I genuinely use this channel’s information every day. It isn’t unnecessarily harsh, but it isn’t sugar coated either, and I appreciate that. Edit 4 months later: I must admit I didn’t expect more than one or two comments here. As an update, I am now one of the highest “rank” volunteers and a mentor to new volunteers. While we tell new volunteers to only use positive reinforcement, (as it is technically shelter policy and they can only interact with easy dogs) us “higher tier” volunteers certainly are not purely positive. Most of us use starmark or prong collars. At a certain point, it is just for safety, as attempting to walk a reactive 120 pound Rottweiler on a harness is a liability waiting to happen. On a positive note, all the dogs I mentioned in this comment have found homes! Doberman went to home with prior Doberman experience, Akita went to an Akita rescue in south CA, and the Malinois just recently got adopted by a dog trainer!
I was thinking about volunteering to help a no-kill shelter. Do you run into problems with the shelter operators wanting to be purely positive or no? I was thinking about being a dog walker, but am a bit concerned about potential drama if there are a bunch of purely positive folks running the ship.
@@drewd2 It’s a somewhat complicated question to answer. But the short answer is no, I haven’t run into problems/arguments about purely positive vs balanced. This is partly just due to everyone there being quite respectful and kind in general. In their volunteer rules, they do state a “zero tolerance for aggressive behavior towards dogs” (which they specify as “pulling and jerking on the leash, yelling at the dog, ‘giving a dog a knee,’ kicking or striking a dog.”) They also state “Proper use of leash corrections requires training” so I take that to mean they are not purely positive, but you need to earn trust and show your skills gradually to use more ‘harsh’ corrections. All this being said, I don’t know what your shelter is like, and I would suggest going to a volunteer orientation or just straight up emailing them to directly ask about their methods. TLDR: it’s complicated and it entirely depends on the shelter. Try not to be argumentative about training methods, and learn more about the shelter you’re interested in. Also: don’t let this discourage you, volunteering at a shelter has been the absolute best part of my life for the last few months, I’ve met some great people and gained a lot of experience. Anyway, have a good day/night!
Out of curiosity, why do most sheltered dogs have psychological issues. It mostly says if you want to adopt this dog, they dont like other dogs etc? Its almost a red flag or can it be trained in obedience school? Whats the pros and cons of adopting vs getting preferred breed? Thanks
@@PhiyackYuh I wouldn't say most sheltered dogs have psychological issues, at least not by me. You do have to look at the situation they came from. If they were strays, they are probably going to be more skeptical of animals they were competing with for food. If they were in a home where there were no other pets for awhile, they probably won't do as well with new animals. My guess is that you are generally looking at older animals. If you get a younger dog, they are much more moldable and willing to get along with other animals. Keep in mind that shelters generally don't do much training, just the basics to make them adoptable enough, but they aren't going to train out personality characteristics.
This reminds me of the correction puppies go through when being raised by their mother, its so essential to their social development and a lot of the time these dogs simply didn't have that which causes issues like these where they don't know how to act. Once another dog can teach them that, they know, I think it's something humans probably can't replicate very well so it's amazing to see you have an dog that can teach them these social skills. Really well done!
Exactly! My sister's dog had issues from bring taken away from his mother too early, he has never been agressive but he never learned how to understand when another dog was telling him to "back off" and that unfortunately resulted in a few fights (little dude broke my finger when seperating him once). We saw a dog behaviorist who told us the above and we were able to work with him and our other dogs and now we haven't had a fight in two years other then small scuffles which resolve themselves. It happens in cats as well, a lot of behavioral problems that are seen in animals in good homes most often stem from being taken from the mother too early
"Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." -Mike Tyson ...applies to more than just people
Youve been to comfortable molesting girls getting and away with it said teddy Atlas to Mike Tyson holding a gun to his head after he molested his 10 year old niece
It's honestly fascinating to see not only canine socialization as it happens, but it's fantastic you know Prince well enough to have him deal with such training. Both of you are doing amazing work.
What really blows me away is that little moment at 5:38 where Prince looks towards you, his pack leader, seemingly checking your reaction to the situation. He has an unreal level of self-control and awareness of his surroundings. What an absolute unit of a dog.
@@christofs-a1834 I think it was a "I'm cool to stop now, I'm even making myself a bit less prepared, so please don't let this get worse" and then when the other dog let it get worse Prince was "that's it then, no more good-wimpy-doggy, you want a fight? A FIGHT YOU'LL GET!" But was also "I don't want to hurt you: I'm just trying to defend myself", and for that it think that's the best dog I've EVER seen
That's all part of his training. You have to calm your dog down after such an encounter, even if he was in the right. And definitely praise him for his job well done.
He presents training in 7 days. Each of 7 items are commands that he believes a dog should know. They are presented in part ii of the book czcams.com/users/postUgkxK8-VQWpYThx4IC6MiIvb6VS1ebTzzdxq . The parts of the guideare divided: part i know your dog part ii the seven commands part iii cures for 7 behavior problems. Each chapter presents a topic, a dog's story, and a "what to do". It was written simply and you can jump from chapter to chapter to review anything as needed.
Its so good to see a dog trainer who UNDERSTANDS the psychology & understands how valuable these lessons are if taught by dogs, not humans. Youve earned a new sub. Great job and continue doing this. You understand dogs.
Been training dogs for 17 years, have explained this so many times to my clients. This video is AWESOME, and says in a few minutes what takes hours to explain. Thank you ! P.S. Glad to hear you qualify this dog as a 'jerk' instead of 'alpha' or 'dominant'. Am tired of some dog owners still wanting to attribute bad behavior to outdated ideas of hierarchy. I tell them that dogs don't even form packs with strict hierarchy. Bad, jerky behavior is just that, and needs to be corrected in dogs, kids, and adults 😁
I agree to a point for most breeds but when I moved into working with breeds most haven't even heard of (primitive guardian breeds such as the TM) there really is validity to the "need to be alpha" with those breeds. I thought it was all old wives tales and fooey until about 3 years ago dealing with a 65lb 4.5mth old puppy no trainer in 100 miles would touch, who flew teeth first without hesitation. Learned a completely new thing working with that dog. They were bred to think and act on their own and are wildly intelligent. They are stubborn, dense, assertive and many cases can be very aggressive and if they do not trust that you are strong enough to handle a situation, they will take control of the situation for you, because that is what they were bred for. Some may never be able to have outside visitors in "their space" (the dogs territory) but other people have had luck so long as the dogs people are there in control of the situation. Seems to depend on breeding and lineage. Some of these breeds you aren't training as much as you are managing. So while, I agree that I do not think the Alpha mindset of training works for normal dogs (and I think in most cases you can cause a lot of problems with a normal dog that way), there is a time and place for it and that time is when you're dealing with certain primitive breeds.
@@beyondimagination07 I dunno, it seems more anecdotal to me if I’m completely honest. I’ve worked with plenty of more “primitive” breeds and never had an issue. Some certainly take more time, like in the cases where they have developed a bite first ask questions later mentality but at the end of the day the same methods as any other dog have always worked for me. I’m not saying everything you said is wrong and that I’m right, just that since we both seem to have completely opposite anecdotes that odds are neither of us our completely right
Prince is beautiful! Omg I mean I've seen him in so many videos but it never ceases to amaze me how gorgeous he is. He's very experienced. The best teacher for dogs is other mature dogs. Usually, this behavior happens bc puppies are given away at an age before their mom starts disciplining them in EXACTLY the way Prince did.
I love this video! I have been a dog trainer for over 7 years, and I have a male Golden Retriever (name Bo) who is just like Prince. Bo has helped hundreds of dogs with their social skills. And you are right, letting dogs teach dogs in this situation is the best thing! Thank you for what you do!
Prince seems to be so well trained! He bites when needed, but not too aggressively. He also shadows the other dog after he corrects them, to let them know that he is not intimidated at all. Incredibly disciplined.
Let’s be honest. Prince is trained, period. So many people think they are dog trainers, and don’t get proper training and instruction. And if they do get some puppy classes, it’s usually only one family member getting the training. And really the training is for the owner. Getting real training for my dog was the best decision, it made my 80lb husky/gs mix such a loving and wonderful dog to have and take out into the world.
Where are the human versions of these trainers 😂 this was incredible especially since Dobermans are my favorite. I didn’t know they can train other dogs!
I never get tired of your training sessions! As a petsitter, I always refer your videos to other dog owners. Thank you for your expertise and encouragement!
What an amazing soul that dog has. 5:39 he looks at his human dad to acknowledge everything is ok and his aggression was well self-controlled like the dog intened. No words spoken, he knew he was trusted 100%.
this is a really great way to train. my dog was very aggressive towards cats, and my cats would always run which didn’t help, just made him think they were prey. eventually my dog found a cat that would actually fight back, and it straightened him out instantly. each new cat he met he was less and less aggressive towards, and now i can have my cat and my dog on the same couch, which i never thought was possible!
We have two cats at home and 3 dogs. The older cat has given up trying to resist attention from the dogs but the other cat won't have a bar of it, sticking up his hackles and doing his very best to sound like a lion. I'm sure the dogs can tell the cats apart, but they can never seem to understand why the younger one fights back any time they try to touch it since the older one is so relaxed about it. Since they never really knew why they were chasing the cats in the first place they often look a bit confused when they actually catch the older cat, eventually resorting to an uncomfortable amount of licks which she tolerates until she decides she's had enough and sticks em with the claws. The poor dogs never see it coming after all these years...
@@elevatedvibes9769 Cats are not animals that can be exactly corrected in their behavior. I have two cats and two dogs, the older cat (3 years old) and my older dog (11 years old) practically never in their lives even looked at each other the wrong way, they don't love each other but they respect boundaries. My cat is a bit of a solitary cat and likes being alone which plays into it as well. My younger cat (1 year old) doesn't fight with my older dog either. The problem is with the younger dog. He is 2 years old, months younger than my oldest cat. They grew up together but my cat as I said is a HUGE introvert and the dog is too much for his liking. They sometimes sleep around each other but when the dog starts being too much he quickly leaves. He only ever stayed around me or my boyfriend but when we were not home he stayed away from the others and just slept in my bed or the couch. When the younger cat came he became quite fond of him, but since the little one was very playful and liked to bother him a lot he kept his distance for quite some time until he grew up more. Sometimes when he became dirty from playing outside my older cat would take him and clean him lmao something I never saw my cat do with any other cat we fostered or animal for that matter. Still the younger dog is VERY playful and when he was young we would have to correct him since he was not careful when playing with the others. He is big too. So yeah in my cats' eyes the younger dog is quite bothersome, and they made sure to never let him do as he wanted. If the dog bit them while trying to play or made any move of trying to make the cats submit they didn't take it and were not afraid to use their claws to warn him that they were not ok with what the dog was doing. Same happens in lion prides which is quite funny to think about. Now my younger dog is way more careful when playing with other animals, not only cats. Since we had to take him when he had just been born (rescued during quarantine, my boyfriend and I have experience and I am a vet student) having an older dog and a cat around him certainly helped him calm down and learn to not be careless while playing. Since he grew around other animals he has never been aggressive with any other dog in the park and is really playful with anyone he meets. Quite the accomplishment for a big dog raised in quarantine tbh.
That hound knew exactly where to attack the other dog, he went straight for the most vulnerable, soft parts of Prince, scary stuff. Also, Prince's restraint here was impressive, he could have seriously injured the hound in just a few seconds, but chose not too, he immediately disengaged when instructed to and then basically ignored the other dog for the rest of the time.
@TMCS It's my business because you're literally reposting the same thing over and over again on a public forum. Like I said, it's bad internet etiquette. Didn't your parents teach you the difference between private and public spaces?
Very effective steps. Let the dog stretch his legs and eliminate and expend some energy, then it's time to go to work and begin learning. Letting him show you what his mindset is and then allow the teacher to come out and communicate the boundaries to the guest. Prince handled it spot on, and your moments of tenderness with him to assure him that he's doing a good job and helping him to stand down emotionally is how you take good care of your helper. Good wake-up call for this hound. Then he learned he could be accepted into the pack and make/have friends while learning how to be a good dog. It's solid teaching, sound methods, real life experience, done with consistency and repetition. Good stuff there.
Yes. My dog, a German shepherd, is very friendly towards other dogs. One day I noticed he was being harsh on a particular dog at the park and right away I called him to get him apart. Soon enough I realized that this other dog was bulling the other ones while the owner was not doing anything about it. I understood then that my dog had been trying to keep this other dog in line so I let him go back to his self-assigned task of keeping order.
That's my German Shepherd exactly. Officer Rico 😂 His rules are 1) Introduce yourself calmly, 2) Play for fun, 3) Don't play rough with any dog who doesn't like it, and 4) deal with me if you break the rules. He LOVES to race, wrestle and talk all kinds of smack with the Varsity Boys, but they're not fighting for real. He always keeps a protective eye on the more vulnerable. If there's a child or puppy at the park, he is always somewhere between them and the troublemakers. As intimidating as he looks, I've learned he really is a born peacekeeper.
Animals understand cause-and-effect really well and they learn really fast. Great lesson. His life with his owner is gonna be so much better once he learns boundaries with other dogs.
I love that you explained the "excessive" fawning on Prince, thank you. Yes, he does deserve it, but it's so helpful to know that you were also calming his energy.
I think it was more to show the other dog that what Prince was doing was right and because of that he is getting praise. And what he was doing is wrong and that's why he isn't.
Prince is just so gorgeous and so well trained - it’s amazing how he keeps this composure when interacting with the dogs in need of training that go for him (and his nuts - every one of the visiting dogs goes right for those) even with their muzzles on - Prince is a zen master and gives them an appropriate smack down.
Prince cracks me up. He’s amazing to watch. He makes a lot of noise but no harm. He’s not really trying to bite. In my mind he’s saying “ugh not another one. Bruh I said leave me alone and we good, ok wormed you…..now you good?”
Thank you for allowing these dogs to teach other dogs, and for being a knowledgeable and informed Pack Leader. We need more Dog Whisperers like you on these social media channels. Also, your training facility looks great brother!! Much success to you and your organization.
I've been a veterinary technician for 25 years and this is the best dog body language video I have ever seen. This was a dog and dog issue. The hound was corrected by a well trained, non aggressive fellow dog. The correction was warranted and absolutely perfect. Well done!
My dog started whining at me when he was saying "you're the best boy". I just pet him and told him, "you pooped in the house yesterday, you're top 5 at best"
Excellent display and breakdown, especially with the focus on body language. Prince is incredible! I love how you emphasized the importance of calming Prince down after the other dog was testing him. Thank you for doing what you do, in such a complete way, and teaching the rest of us.
I've seen a well trained Doberman hold down a misbehaving dog by the back of the neck and growl calmly till it settled. I was really impressed. Prince is a marvellous example
_"Can a dog fix another dog's aggression?"_ Probably. A lot of aggression issues are because one dog doesn't know dog manners, possibly because of being taken away from their families too early. Learning about boundaries and dog manners is very important for young dogs. Prince is being astonishingly gentle with that hound.
Prince is a great helper, a moderate personality dog with an understanding of the overall intention great connection. I currently have 5 dogs and although I try my best to pass on the same ideas, I notice that a lot comes from the dog itself and its personality. Great insights !!! Subscribed and eager to watch the rest of your content.
Price is such a good boy, and I appreciate the way this trainer understands the important roll and truly hard work that Prince does on a regular basis.
From 5:35 note how Prince looks up at his trainer to ensure that he is doing well and also to check if he should continue with his controlled agression. Amazing video, amazing trainer, amazing dog.
Prince doing his job like a pro. Going just as far as he needs to. Something something least aversive method likely to work. I bet you didn't need to call him at the end of it, but I understand that you did (and would've done the same.)
Yes! I was wondering how that would have played out uninterrupted. But yes; the lesson was learned--and now Prince also knows he doesn't actually hv to go very far to teach a lesson🐾❤️
This training (metaphorically) would be useful for humans too, holding boundaries and standing up to others in a respectful way. Thank you for sharing and narrating what's going on.
@@SirCanuckelhead and ideally those lessons are reinforced by how their peers respond to their actions, which means all parents should take the time to teach their kids properly.
@@Pizzastealingninja A kid who has good parenting quickly learn at a young age the double standards life can throw at you. Fair that it is not an easy concept to understand and be ok with. Not that you should be ok with it but in the way that it does not live rent free in your head.
Dogs aren’t pack animals like wolves are but regardless this form of training appeals heavily towards the way they learn, specifically the amoral aspect.
@@Thomas-zt7dm Well in truth, wolves aren't pack animals either unless they are in captivity. Wild wolves are just a family group composed of the parents and their kids.
This man is spot on. I'm glad that we are seeing more of society getting away from positive only, no negativity training. Where you can't even tell your dog 'NO'. Positive only is a great starting place, but it will not work on every single dog. Then your just beating your head against the wall, and dog and owner are frustrated. Someone ends up getting hurt and sometimes dog ends up being euthanized. Prince and you are lucky to have been brought together. I've only met a few dogs that have his gentile personality. Great work!
Actually, a great positive only trainer can do things that would surprise you. The problem is there are very few people withe knowledge or skill. Or even KNOW what marker training is. After all, you don't see the folks training killer whales giving up and electrocution the orca when they (the humans) can't figure out how to train something! Today people with no business trying to train a dog slap a shock collar on and call themselves a "trainer". I've put multiple schH 3 and s French ring Brevet on a gamebred pit bull without correction... but I know what marker training is. But I will agree with you about this: many dogs and many people fail at marker training and in some cases there may be a better method based on the character of trainer and dog.
This is technically positive reinforcement. Positive reinforcement is based around the idea of action and consequence, either "good" (treat) or "bad" (Prince giving him a stern reaction). Negative reinforcement is based around the avoidance or repression of behavior, often out of fear, which is what leads some dogs to be reactive because it is bottled up until the dog can't take it anymore.
@@briandaaranda9735 positive reinforcement has no negative consequences. Both of their corrections were negative reinforcement. But it was in a very controlled and thoughtful manner. The corrections were not pleasant to the dog, therefore it's not positive reinforcement.
@@DocSeville I am only able to slightly agree with you. Positive only (marker- positive without corrections) is the best way to start. It builds a strong bond with their owner, and hopefully leads to strong trust. Not all dogs graduate from this style of training, and other methods have to be used. I can guarantee is a puppy or adult dog nips or bites me I'm gonna squeal 'OWW' and 'NO'! But that's not positive. Alternative is redirection, which may work, but I choose to tell them that hurts and I don't like that. I'm not a fan of shock collar, but the do have their place in trading world. Examples are rattlesnake training and hunting. And yes their are way too many "trainers" who cause more damage than help with ignorance.
@@briandaaranda9735 reinforcement actually means you are encouraging a behavior you like versus punishment is discouraging a behavior you dislike. In this case, prince used positive punishment. (Positive meaning adding something to the situation, whereas negative if taking something away). Prince did not like the dog biting at him, therefore he "bit" him back to correct the behavior he did not like! I'm a psychology graduate who works in behavior and this concept is always difficult to understand!
I appreciate your audio that is very good explanation of what is happening when it happens. Much easier to understand since you're doing after the video not commentating as its happening. Well done
I appreciate how you explain "setting the dog up for success" in detail. It's really easy to put an animal through unnecessary stress, and you're so thorough in your set-up with both Prince and the visiting dog. I'm so glad the hound's owner is so understanding of what's going on, that's great (and not always common) to see! Also, your facility is gorgeous!
This is not setting the dog up for success. Everything that happened here set these dogs up to fail. Nothing here was setting them up for success. PLEASE. Never do this with ANY dog. This is Terrible.
@@alexandrialecarpentier9877 Explain? How is letting a dog walk off their energy after arriving to a new place setting them up to fail? Letting them take a shit? Letting them smell the other dog through the gate for a considerable amount of time to get them acquainted without a fight [also putting a muzzle on the dog when it didn't calm down, which is known to calm dogs down]? Like?? What do you mean, everything said in this video seems very logical to me, very much set this dog up to success. And he seems to be doing great, if a little shy of other dogs, but he said 5 days passed so I guess that's understandable.
I am currently working with my reactive boy. He’s fine with dogs he knows, but has no clue on social etiquette on those all important first meetings…until I started walking him with my old lab. Alfie is an 11 year old gentleman who still loves a little play now and then. We met another lab that Charlie (leashed), immediately started growling at. The other lab ignored him and started to play with mine. When Charlie saw this, he stopped growling and started crying instead, suddenly realising he was being a complete idiot and missing out because of it. Now when he meets the lab, he plays with him and will walk nicely with us if we’re all going the same way. Thanks Alfie you lovely boy!
You still have to be careful with leashed dogs. Loose dogs will view them as being at a disadvantage or that there is a reason they are not approaching as another loose dog would. This can either make the loose dog defensive or fearful. I can't tell you how many times a person walks into the off leash dog park with a dog on leash and they immediately stop their dog from greeting the other dogs. 9 out of 10 times, the other dogs approach in a group. The dog on leash immediately tries to back off or hide because it knows it is at a disadvantage and will try to make the owner run by pulling away. When it can't get away, it has no choice but to display aggression to protect itself. Once it does that, the dogs that are already there sense the dog as aggressive and can gang up on it. This further escalates the aggression in all of them. The owner pulling back the dog in the first place is the issue. This also erodes the confidence of the leashed dog and they will react the same way if the owner leaves with the dog. Most of us tell the owner to let the dog off before they get too close. All of ours are under voice control and gentle. When the do that, the dogs introduce themselves and all is usually well. There may be corrections by the other dogs and all have an individual tolerance limit, but they all know the warnings learned as here. For the 100's of dog that have come to the park since I have been going we have only had two incidents of minor injury and both were unintentional between dogs that already knew and got along with each other, both when running and playing. The above scenario can also happen with individual dogs on the street. My dog, on leash, was shown aggression when walking by a yard without a fence and the owner let their dog run. He felt we were invading his territory and he was aggressive. We re-introduced immediately and she, because of her confidence, was able to wind him around her paw! He learned from her later that it wasn't ok to push her around! He was also a dog that was not corrected on his behavior by another dog.
This seems to be a thing dogs intrinsically understand, from my experience and observation. I have a Maine coon cat who has no patience for high energy dogs, and because of his size dogs often challenge him. My golden retriever only needed one swat in the face from the cat to learn that he shouldn't mess with this sharp furry thing. Now, their interactions are peaceful and relaxed
You see this sort of interaction with dogs and their parents. Plenty of videos of puppies barking and challenging their mother or father but the parent will set boundaries and the pup will know what’s acceptable and what’s not
Depends on the cat but yeah,cats helped train my dog to not be a butthead to smaller critters too. But have had to put the cats in thier place once or twice too after that because they started being buttheads to the dog. But noticed noises like hissing at em works for cats tho instead of verbal commands like with dogs tho.
You want to know the most telling sign of a pro? At 4:18, after calling Prince off, listen to what the trainer does. I felt tension on this side of the screen just watching the interaction between the two dogs. Its a stressful process. Big breath exhale. The trainer knew to release and rid himself of his own. He does it again at 6:00. This means he's not just a robot, or arrogant in his knowledge. HE CARES. This interaction impacts him too. Awesome. I hope Prince lives to be 50. He is a very good boy. And this trainer is top one percent.
I agree with you & I noticed it also!! Although I didn’t say it as eloquent ! But I like the fact that it stressed the trainer out ( He didn’t just sick a Doberman on a muzzled dog & enjoyed it) He set everything up with safety & so to succeed 👍 Like Cesar Millan says No bad dog’s just train ppl ( & humans are what screws dogs up, mostly unintentionally) Like I love my dog so much I tend to over feed her because she’s so good lol but many of us train dogs wrong in 1 way or another!! I would love to train dogs & watch many Trainers, Cesar is great & Studies dogs natural way’s like posture & the smallest signs of tails, ears Etc
I think people with high empathy and good emotional self-awareness understand animals best. Without the empathy / sensitivity to emotions of others it's more difficult to understand what the dog is experiencing, and without the emotional self-awareness you get swept along with the dog's emotional/energy state too much. So they get tense and then you get tense. So you have to have a finger on your own pulse so to speak and make yourself a calm stable beacon. The breathing deeply is one of many self-soothing behaviours. A person with both (and lots of experience with dogs), like the guy in this video, can regulate his dog's emotional state by managing his own. Dogs are very sensitive to emotion (especially tension/stress). This is also why many dogs develop socializing issues due to their owner getting nervous and tense meeting other dogs.
@@NLTops If I may ask, what do you do for a living or what life experiences do you have that allow you to see it this well? I was very impressed with your answer and how well connected it is to the reality of dogs training and emotions. I was a farrier for 23 years and working around horses made it important to be able to use these skills.
Love the slow mo because it shows that Prince had no intention to cause harm, just "check yo self" moment. Love it. Although, I agree this scenario only works because you know Prince so well.
Prince is King, a godsend to help those who need an understanding of the rules of a pack. His love for his dad and his dad's love for him, lets Prince know he will never be put in harm's way.
Prince is one super good boy! The restraint is very impressive. That beagle is a good boy, too, he just needed a little lesson. Always nice to see an owner taking extra steps to help their dog live a better life, release their tension and anxiety, and be able to relax and enjoy socializing.
I don't think that's a beagle, he is too tall. but I agree with your comment. If a person wants to be able to live with a dog that has some behaviors that need correcting, they really should. It's good to take the steps needed to improve quality of life for the dog and owner! Now the dog gets to have buddies to play with. Prince is impressive with his ability to control himself.
I'm not a dog specialist, and it was a revelation to me that a dog trainer can use an assistant dog to correct other dog's behavior. So cool! I realize that lots of work should be put in raising such assistant. Amazing.
I'm much more knowledgeable with cats, but it works basically the same way. Nothing will ever speak to an animal quite like another animal of the same species. This dog was probably not well socialized being a former hunting dog. So he saw a stranger, and the anxiety of "This unfamiliar dog could potentially hurt me" came up, and all other feelings went out. You make him helpless to human judgment by putting a muzzle on him, against a dog much bigger than he is, then the natural fight or flight instincts will slowly go down when they realize they can't do anything about their situation and the dog will learn to trust the human's judgment. These are things that should've been done when he was a puppy as that would've been doable without muzzling, but unfortunately the most efficient way to break that out of an adult dog is to pit it helpless against a dog twice his size that you know wouldn't hurt the aggressive one.
The few hunting packs I've seen, there is definitely a hierarchy in that pack, and if that hound came from a pack, since he was removed from that hunting pack he has been unsure of other dogs and testing every other dog he meets because he was used to being checked by other hunting dogs letting him know where the boundary was. Seems like yes, having another dog correct him in their natural languages of behavior and body language was totally the right call.
@@ColdNorth0628 That's in wolves, which are not dogs. A "pack" of dog is just a group of dogs, and dogs are very social creatures that often stick together regardless of breed or relation.
I'm a retired Sheriff's Officer (K-9 Unit for 15 years of...)
This is the ONLY "dog training" channel I have EVER subscribed too. (LOL, about 5 minutes ago).
There is so much nonsense out there for people to learn (especially towards positive reinforcement) which is actually a very delicate situation when dealing with "jerk%$f" dogs (and stay P.C.)
This man knows his S$%T. TRUST ME!!!
It is something that can not be trained into a person... he UNDERSTANDS the dynamics (psych) of dogs/pack animals, not just simply the fundamentals.
And also, dog training is very complicated to explain to others; when explaining what/how/who/why is happening... yet he does an excellent "layman's" way of communicating it.
Great job, all around!
I absolutely agree with you. Thank you for commenting and saying what I see and think every time I watch Joel’s videos.
Its complicated because there are so many variables imo
I really wish I posted this comment under
"Wild session with a young people and dog reactive German Shepherd"....
Which happened to be the 1st video I've watched, on this channel (this was the second video).
Understanding the "weeding out" of environmental conditions (such as protective instincts) , ASTONISHED my 'like-minded-ness',.
Recognizing there was more complex breeding/genetic (personality) issues as the root cause, of its relentless behavior. I was SERIOUSLY IMPRESSED!
@@goombah7861 Its seems very undersocialized as even at the end of the video it still doesnt act like a "dog" around other dogs
@@darken3150 i agree, I'm not optimistic about that one, 😄...
I said to myself (the German Shepherd); this looks like a classic case of a young puppy (still is), where the family encouraged this behavior and reinforced/rewarded it, because it was cute...At first!!!
Now that it's maturing (plus genetics/breed/etc.) they're trying to back-peddle, realizing it's a going to be a problem... Unfortunately they might have already ruined that dog (for what it was intended for), a kind house-pet. Definitely the wrong breed choice for that family. (He was probably born already knowing what a bite sleeve was)
It's understandable....and very common, they didn't know any better. Best of luck to them though.
My husky was skittish as a puppy. We took her to the park one day and there was a small pitbull that was friendly and slowly coaxed my dog into playing. My husky was never afraid of other dogs again. And she developed another trait...she hates seeing other dogs fight. She breaks up fights at the park and often checks on everyone there to see if they're ok.
Peacemaker pupper, what a good boy. I'm sure he brings you a lot of joy.
@@Hiraeth_Nightshade She does indeed! 😁 Her name is Lyra and she's all white cept for one tiny black spot behind her ear and has ice blue eyes 😍
My Husky is the same way! He actually gets distressed seeing other dogs fighting and he starts howling as if saying: "Can't we all just get along?" 😂😂😂😂
@@soultrex9722 sounds like a angel from heaven
My dog Murph is s sensitive black mouthed cur. He avoids conflict at all times until he's pushed. Then he acts just like Prince - it always works. I have to tell other owners (after they get over initial energy spike) that they let things be and that no one will get hurt and they'll all get along. Murph is so mindful he even checks that my cat has treats when he gets one :)
I wonder if Prince ever gets tired of having to teach the other dogs manners. He is such a great dog and such a good boy.
I honestly think he mostly understands exactly what he’s doing and why. He knows he’s there to help and teach and he takes it seriously. He never really hurts them or takes it any further than necessary and he doesn’t take any of it personally. I’d say he shows more professionalism and emotional intelligence than a lot of *people* do. It’s crazy how calm and responsive he stays. Very unique and cool dog.
I'm sure the high-stress moments make up a very tiny fraction of his daily routine. He'll have had a good life with lots of positive reinforcement training from the moment his training began. Now, the work he does as an adult, what all that training was geared to, is probably going to be water off a duck's back to him. Like any other animal (including humans), he does what he was raised to do. Nothing more, nothing less.
@@jdisdetermined "I’d say he shows more professionalism and emotional intelligence than a lot of people do" It's all down to how an individual was raised, no matter the species of animal.
I think it's similar to how some good people volunteer to be a chat moderator on a discord server. Some people want to do it.
Dogs absolutely *thrive* off having jobs & a purpose - the happiest dogs you'll ever meet are all working dogs, whether that's sheepdogs, K9s, guide dogs, guard dogs, professional foxhounds, etc. Just like us, they get huge amounts of satisfaction and fulfillment out of doing something worthwhile.
6:10 "Prince isn't mad, he's not holding a grudge, he is... he is..."
I think he is taking a piss.
claiming territory, asserting dominance by existing
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Read this as I watched it at the exact moment🤣 thanks for the subtitles😭🤣 I thought he was gonna acknowledge his piss lol
This is why socialization between dogs is so important. People can't only socialize dogs with other people, they have to let them be around other dogs, because only a dog can teacher another dog how to be a dog.
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Cat's too. I think pack/social animals, regardless of how much should generally have a buddy in a similar system. Could have two dogs, two cats, a cat and a dog, but something social that can communicate in animal helps a lot. It can also help encourage shy/aggressive animals to chill with supervision.
We got my kitty a buddy and they've both helped each other be so much more comfortable, especially our more shy boy.
that aint even proper socialization. they should both be on leashes. this is just the owners insecurity about his own ability to control his dogs behavior on full display
Plus dogs are happier when they have dog friends. They are pack animals.
@@unkownperson9250??? Leashing dogs is important of course, but it doesn't replace socialization! If you only get your dog used to the leash and don't train it to actually get along with other dogs physically, then it will be scared and dangerous as soon as it meets a dog that isn't leashed. That is when it barks or even bites, out of fear.
Once you watch it in slow motion you realize how mild the confrontation is too, Prince was very controlled in his corrections.
Plus the immediate break in teaching the hound was such good control and training of Prince
This...ppl at most dog parks don't have a clue what a real dog fight looks like.
Or be around dogs. Or confrontation. Americans are so effing soft.
For real! Prince is a professional haha
It's amazing to see the altercation in slow motion. In real time it looks harsh. But when slowed, you can see Prince's restraint and he's not actually hurting the other dog. More so a warning to back off. Very informative. Great dog and trainer!
I hope all dog brawls are on slow mo. Then I wouldn't have to panic every time thinking they want to kill each other.
Very much reminded me of a parent teaching the pup in no uncertain terms, no - you will not do that- you will get whooped. (In the gentlest manner possible.)
It was definitely a display, like shaking branches for the gorilla. You see this in many creatures, it's one of those impressive things as well. Maybe more so with mammals?
@@iagreewithyou3478 I've been working with dogs for about 10 years. Over time it gets easier to tell when the crap is getting ready to hit the fan. Dogs pass on a ton of information to other dogs, and humans, with their body language. It's just a matter of learning how to decipher it and act as needed.
When I saw how that hound reacted through the fence I was hoping he would muzzle him.
It's probably also WHY it helps so much tbh? It IS scary to us, that is not friendly and positive Human teaching, but DOG teaching? He's speaking dog to dog and helping him come to a healthy place in life. Is a very good Working Professional Doggo
I think the great thing about prince is that he does all the actions of biting and dominance without any actual biting or harm done. He’ll bare his teeth and even open his mouth right up against the other dogs neck but it’s all just a warning because he never does the ‘chomp’. All the communication without any harm. And during the slow motion you can see just how in control of each muscle and movement Prince is, especially in comparison to the other dog!
alot of people would disagree there's many reviews of his dog biting😂 and only an idiot would put a muzzle on a dog while the other one doesn't on top of that prince didn't even listen when told to back off untill he wanted to not when told prince is a dangerous dog do your research mate for fuck sake just look at his business reviews
@@joshstorie246 oh really?? I’ll definitely have to look into that :c that’s horrible
@@OkiSmokey ignore josh. if his dog bit other dogs, there would be pictures and evidence all over the internet. not "google reviews" that anyone can leave. the comments go like "i watched his videos and his dog is biting other dogs!" Not real. the only negative reviews are the ones complaining about his methods or prices.
@@Mishakeet I planned to look into it dw, I prefer to do my own research rather than blindly trust people on the internet whether they agree with me or not!
Beautiful body language at 5:38
You will see Prince's ears are up, but he then lowers them respectfully at his owner.
Prince is showing his owner he is friendly and submissive to him, while also controlling this situation with the other dog.
Thought it was super cute and shows the beautiful bond the dog and owner share.
Good boy Prince ;)
...Prince is a terrifyingly intelligent dog, and you are incredibly good at explaining these barky creatures. Especially with the slow motion break down.
It seems like dogs really are smarter and more capable than we think, we just rarely ever see it utilized to its full potential.
Terrifyingly intelligent? You think he's going to take over the world or some shit? Barky creatures? Quit trying to be overly creative in your writing. It's bad.
@TMCS you just copied the top comment
I have a Staffy+St Bernard mixed pup named Kissy and he has been helping me train 2 other of his littermates that ... well they aren't very bright. How Primce directs this Beagle is identical to what Kissy has been doing!
He's only 6mo old, too, and after seeing this vid, I am thanking my lucky stars for such an amazing dog!!!
This summer had a lot of blackberries and I make organic jam each year. Kissy went with me every day to pick. First day, he learned what the berries were. By the 2nd day after watching me closely, he learned which were ripe and how to carefully grab them without stabbing his snoot ... and that I was gathering only the ripe ones. Then Kissy invented a "game" we did for the rest of the 2nd day - he would run ahead of me and scout for bushes with lots of ripe berries, then would let out this single, sharp bark to get my attention. Once I (his much slower human companion) figured out he was finding the berries for me anf signalling, we'd roll around and I'd reward him with a handful of berries.
I love my Kissy boy so much!!!
Yes Good Point!!
The best part of this was Prince getting his nerves eased from dad, just being like "I didn't want to get angry dad, but he made me, now he's following me and yelling at me"
I would love to have the ability to put my dog with Prince
"Dad?"
It' called "short hand'
Aww this made me tear up
Prince should’ve ran away then lol
@@Jake420 no cuz that’s weird. Their dad and mom are their birth parents obv
This is literally the most logical way I’ve seen to train a dog. You see wolves and you see they have a hierarchy of respect for one another, if one acts out, they get disciplined by other members of the family, so it’s no surprise that it will have the same effect on a dog. Probably the only reason I don’t see this often is because it takes a lot of effort to raise a dog that is effectively your right hand and understands exactly what their job is
You recall on a bullshit theory of hierarchy that no one actually uses anymore, even the first person to claim it existed has retracted that dumb statement, in the wild, wolves are a family and parents regulate things, exactly how it works for people. the only reason a dog is aggressive is fear. You scaring them more doesn't help and it is sad to see people still do it only for the dog to end up worse and claim its genetic.
and when your getting dominated by the one who is clearly not at the top of the pack (the owner is the pack leader) it extra puts them in their place
@@christhorney yal stupid as hell there is no submission except from that muzzle. this aint even proper training. its forced dog park mentality that isnt fair to the dog in the long run. the dog should be checked by the owner not another dog. that poor dog probably has had to deal with a bunch of entitled owners that cant keep their dogs on a leash.
It was beautiful to watch Prince handle himself with equal parts intelligence, self-control, and strength. He applied an amount of force equal to what the situation called for and then followed the dog around a bit to make SURE his boundaries were being remembered. What a great right-hand “man” for a dog behaviorist. 😅
This makes me wonder if a lot of the behavioral problems dogs have come from the fact that they are biologically programmed to work these things out in the context of a pack of other dogs, but we raise them alongside humans and separate from other dogs. You make a very interesting point that it's best that they learn the lesson from another dog!
It's true! The same way with horses. Watch a baby interact with it's mother once. They're the first ones to reprimand and correct bad behaviors. Momma horses do not mess around with their foals, they teach them well, especially experienced moms.
The thing is, you shouldn't get a puppy too young from its litter. There's a minimum age for people to get puppies so that they would get to develop good temperaments.
Yep. Dogs that are well taught by their mommas and well socialized have a lot less issues. Obviously not all dogs are the same, like not all people are the same, but generally it's true.
Dogs learn their best socializing from their mother and siblings. They learn what's acceptable and not and that there are consequences. After that, it's important to keep them socialized.
That, and the fact there is nothing lost in translation when a dog is corrected by another.
You really have to consider what's actually at play here. If you ask me I don't think the dog was being a " jerk " per se. He could quite easily (since he was the perceived first dog in the grounds) have been resource guarding and viewed Prince as a threat to his unabetted unfettered access to a " safe space " perhaps expecting it's barking and persistence to be enough to keep him away. Painfully unaware of the tribulations to follow. His behaviour might suggest otherwise but imo its really hard to discern the psychological effect taking their means of protection away, has on their behaviour, such as the use of a muzzle.
We know why the muzzle is important and this is exactly why humans and dog's together are the perfect team to help a perceived " aggressive " dog work out it's behavioural issues.
My oldest dog teaches all my other dogs how to be hunters, guard dogs, and have character.
Second oldest makes sure the oldest doesn’t overpower. Second oldest makes sure no one is fighting each other.
The rest of the dogs just follow and listen to these two lmao I study them a lot
damn sounds like a cool pack
theyre pack animals, that definitely makes sense. those two seem like the parents of the family like in a wolfpack and they just cover one another and watch over the rest of the group keeping them unified.
theyre a real family :( all dogs deserve a properly structured pack. would be kind of nice to see a world where this training is made the mandatory, (if it truly works, which, this is my first video of this im watching, but why wouldnt it. its how dogs are in the wild when theyre wolves. except its more of a family unit rather than just an assembled pack of seperate dogs intermixing as a group..)
or even one where a mother and father canine should always stay together and form a healthy bond and the pack can grow from them. that of course would mean dog ownership would become sort of limited though. but... its like children, most people are not born ready to provide for a dog. let alone a kid.
@@FWAKWAKKA I am Asian and I have always found that Asian grandmothers are very good at handling bratty or aggressive dogs. Same for Latina grandmothers as I've observed from countless videos. It would seem that families/societies that have strong filial piety and family bond have a better idea at handling dogs.
Which does makes sense cause, like you said, wolves in the wild for packs around families. Matriarchs, or the grandmothers, of an Asian family already know the ins and outs of raising a family.
The older dog will take over a pack sort of like an alpha so they probably look to him as the leader since he the oldest and knows more.
@@FWAKWAKKA Dogs and wolves do not share any genes from what I know. And as such I am not sure the comparison is valid.
I love that you said "he might have hit prince, there might have been a bite in there": so many times people assume a dog bit without recognizing the nuance between a touch, a hit, a nip, and a bite. Prince touched him right back but didn't bite him, just touched him because the other dog touched Prince first.
Perfect.
Prince was like, "Bro, you wanna make friends or enemies today?" That was amazing, such good boys ❤
Prince is a working dog. He is Joel's assistant and a very good one at that. Great video. Edit: It might be scary to see but it was necessary.
I forgot the exact name of the technique/practice/method (or however you want to call it) but the best training and behavior correction technique, revolves around having a specially trained K9 correcting dogs with behavior issues, while their owners stand in one place with them on the leash. Don't know the logic or science behind it but it works better than any other behavior correction method we have today because it's entirely, 100% natural, it is incomparably more effective than any other method and most importantly, it doesn't get humans involved in behavior corrections in any way, shape or form, all the communication and work is done by the specially trained K9's themselves. There are some correction facilities who practice this and have CZcams channels, the channel I liked the most is called ''Gun Dog-Tv'' because they deal with all kinds of dogs, even dogs who are really, really aggressive and their K9 fixes them in no time!
@@nogerboher5266 the way prince acts is not a training thing…it’s a breeder thing and exactly why GOOD breeders are so important. That dog is so even tempered, a lot of work went into selecting the parents to create prince. That’s genetics not training. Training adds to it but you can’t train a even temperament
Prince has a gentile personality, he expects manners and respect. He is controlled in corrections, never (that I've seen) going farther than needed. They are such a wonderful working team, lucky to have the other that they 100% trust each other.
@@buttercup132 I know... I was just saying that there is an actual training / behavior correction method that exists, that does this same exact thing that he was somewhat doing/trying to do with Prince in this video. He should try it out, Prince would be the perfect dog for it.
Very scary! Buuuuut I think yes useful, my ignorance has led me to not be able how to train my rescue not to react to big dogs. But she needs to learn to respect space. This is good technique, I think
This is rather brilliant. Prince can speak "dog" better than any human ever could. You understand the bigger picture and strategize the ways Prince can be most effective in getting his point across.
I mean, obviously prince would be better at speaking dog than any human, because believe it or not, prince is actually a dog
Why would a dog not be able to speak dog better than any human? 😂
@@fugoo8912 this person must’ve had a brain fart or smth lol
Lol you guys are funny. They're literally saying that dogs can communicate directly, and humans can't 😂 he said that to refer to the effective strategy the trainer decided to go for instead of just teaching Luke himself.
@@fluffipups don't waste your time on Trolls :)
this is exactly how my dogs learned. my oldest dog (Maggie) did this our other dog (Gus) when we got him. no bitting or attacking, just corrections. now Gus does this to our newest pup! he is correcting her when she is too aggressive during playing, or does something that isn't appropriate in our house. again, no bitting and no attacking. corrections only. best thing was, we didn't train them to do this at all! it was all instinct!
It's amazing to have a big, strong dog that uses his strength to warn and correct instead of bite back. My Dutch shepherd (I'm dutch too) also warns, but will bite if the attacker proceeds to attack. I cannot teach other dogs with that behaviour, but your dog is perfect for it. Lovely dog you have!
I remember seeing this for the first time at a family BBQ where two cousins brought their dogs over. One was a lab with terrible aggression issues and the other was a great dane. We expected that they’d have to be kept separate all afternoon but the black lab had a go at the great dane, was really quickly put in his place and then they happily wandered around together until the end!
As someone who didn’t grow up with dogs I was amazed.
Dane correcting a lab…. similar to this video. Seems like an aggressive dog needs a bigger dog to be told to calm down. Wondering what happens if the bigger dog is the aggressor? 🤷🏼
@TMCS positive reinforcement is moreso for training puppies and housebreaking. Learning how to act and socialize is something that humans can’t really give to dogs, because we’re two different species who see completely different concepts and feel different emotions.
@TMCS Lmao imagine reacting to someone agreeing with you that way and ultimately calling yourself uneducated… This obviously isn’t someone who has ever had a debate before. Can’t even pick up on when one is happening, let alone come up with a valid rebuttal.
@TMCS You also didn’t even reference which ‘research papers’ have been published, nor give any examples of who they’re published by. Nor did you show any of the ‘literature searches’ you say you have done… So if this was a debate, you would have already lost.
@@Mysanfelipevacation he'd just asume alpha status
This is part of why it's so important for puppies to stay with their mothers for an appropriate amount of time. The mothers initially give an important foundation to puppy behavior-they teach their pups bite force control, how to play without being too rough, when it's time to stop. How to give space. Dogs that have secure attachment teach other dogs best.
This!
Yeah, unfortunatly this is common puppy mill practice to sell newborn pups and people refuse to understand how much it damages the dogs psyche, so many basic skills it needs to learn in its development goes unchecked
I wonder what an appropriate amount of time is? I'll bet the 8 week standard is more about people wanting cute puppies....
@@Cactuscupholder exactly. What sucks even more, these same people blame the dog for behavior it never had the chance to learn and then abandon them or drop them off at a kill shelter
@@Cactuscupholder That's probably the case unfortunately. A lot of vets agree that 8 weeks is the minimum-which means that a few weeks longer is probably better for the puppy to feel supported and have better behavior from its mom solidified. But it's also important for owners of a new dog to continue that work of showing non-aggressive disapproval when the pup does something inappropriate and rewarding appropriate behavior. I'd imagine not doing this can undo a lot of work the mother dog did in the first place!
I love the moments you let Prince decompress with you and it’s just you talking to him. You can see he knows how loved he is. He is so great at what he does … a true helper dog.
I used to work as a school psychologist and it's remarkable how similar dogs and humans really are when learning about boundary setting and aggression. You handled this perfectly, I'm so glad to see you making content like this and helping dogs and their owners alike
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@@LucilleMoostoos Back to school for you Lucille - its is a possesive form, whereas it's is the abreviation of it is, which is correctly used here.
exactly why theres so much bs going on in the world, were now being taught that correcting bad peoples behaviour isnt allowed and people are going around doing and saying what they want without any fear of physical confrontation
What does this even mean? You muzzle kids and let them fight it out until they don't care? Like how is this the same at all
@@BenjaminBoxI think they were talking about exposure therapy, and assertive behavior. People will push and push until they learn they are not allowed to, not through extreme fighting but through boundary setting. If the dog was passive and let it happen, the other dog would have learned nothing. Asserting that authority in an appropriate amount is necessary, and letting it happen in the first place. Most people trying to train their dogs to be less aggressive don’t take this route of exposure
Prince is a really good psychologist of his own -- every time he responded to the hound, he de-escalated things. The hound went at his side, Prince just opened his mouth and put his front leg on the hound's neck, then backed off. The hound went at him again, and Prince opened his mouth and laid it on the hound's neck, but nothing more. He responded every time, but in a "take it easy, buddy" way. He's very socially deft and good at what he does.
I’m thinking he knows he has a Job to do and that’s to be a counselor to other dogs.
Almost seems like he was trained to do that
The other dog had a muzzle and couldn’t fight back
@@ssj-rose4572 if he could he would die cause Prince would kill him 🥶
Just a natural alpha strat
As someone who works with a variety of shelter dogs nearly every day, this it the most practical and helpful channel I’ve come across. From timid chihuahuas and a neglected Doberman to a dominant Akita and a highly reactive Belgian Malinois. I genuinely use this channel’s information every day. It isn’t unnecessarily harsh, but it isn’t sugar coated either, and I appreciate that.
Edit 4 months later: I must admit I didn’t expect more than one or two comments here. As an update, I am now one of the highest “rank” volunteers and a mentor to new volunteers. While we tell new volunteers to only use positive reinforcement, (as it is technically shelter policy and they can only interact with easy dogs) us “higher tier” volunteers certainly are not purely positive. Most of us use starmark or prong collars. At a certain point, it is just for safety, as attempting to walk a reactive 120 pound Rottweiler on a harness is a liability waiting to happen.
On a positive note, all the dogs I mentioned in this comment have found homes! Doberman went to home with prior Doberman experience, Akita went to an Akita rescue in south CA, and the Malinois just recently got adopted by a dog trainer!
I was thinking about volunteering to help a no-kill shelter. Do you run into problems with the shelter operators wanting to be purely positive or no? I was thinking about being a dog walker, but am a bit concerned about potential drama if there are a bunch of purely positive folks running the ship.
@@drewd2 It’s a somewhat complicated question to answer. But the short answer is no, I haven’t run into problems/arguments about purely positive vs balanced. This is partly just due to everyone there being quite respectful and kind in general. In their volunteer rules, they do state a “zero tolerance for aggressive behavior towards dogs” (which they specify as “pulling and jerking on the leash, yelling at the dog, ‘giving a dog a knee,’ kicking or striking a dog.”) They also state “Proper use of leash corrections requires training” so I take that to mean they are not purely positive, but you need to earn trust and show your skills gradually to use more ‘harsh’ corrections. All this being said, I don’t know what your shelter is like, and I would suggest going to a volunteer orientation or just straight up emailing them to directly ask about their methods.
TLDR: it’s complicated and it entirely depends on the shelter. Try not to be argumentative about training methods, and learn more about the shelter you’re interested in.
Also: don’t let this discourage you, volunteering at a shelter has been the absolute best part of my life for the last few months, I’ve met some great people and gained a lot of experience. Anyway, have a good day/night!
Out of curiosity, why do most sheltered dogs have psychological issues. It mostly says if you want to adopt this dog, they dont like other dogs etc? Its almost a red flag or can it be trained in obedience school? Whats the pros and cons of adopting vs getting preferred breed? Thanks
@@spectral_moss Thank you! That actually helped a lot.
@@PhiyackYuh I wouldn't say most sheltered dogs have psychological issues, at least not by me. You do have to look at the situation they came from. If they were strays, they are probably going to be more skeptical of animals they were competing with for food. If they were in a home where there were no other pets for awhile, they probably won't do as well with new animals. My guess is that you are generally looking at older animals. If you get a younger dog, they are much more moldable and willing to get along with other animals. Keep in mind that shelters generally don't do much training, just the basics to make them adoptable enough, but they aren't going to train out personality characteristics.
I believe your dog shows as much skill in training other dogs as you do. Really speaks to your quality of training and Prince's sharp intelligence.
It’s amazing what a secure and accountable presence brings. Not all dogs have the specific temperament that Prince has. Great video.
This reminds me of the correction puppies go through when being raised by their mother, its so essential to their social development and a lot of the time these dogs simply didn't have that which causes issues like these where they don't know how to act. Once another dog can teach them that, they know, I think it's something humans probably can't replicate very well so it's amazing to see you have an dog that can teach them these social skills. Really well done!
Exactly! My sister's dog had issues from bring taken away from his mother too early, he has never been agressive but he never learned how to understand when another dog was telling him to "back off" and that unfortunately resulted in a few fights (little dude broke my finger when seperating him once). We saw a dog behaviorist who told us the above and we were able to work with him and our other dogs and now we haven't had a fight in two years other then small scuffles which resolve themselves. It happens in cats as well, a lot of behavioral problems that are seen in animals in good homes most often stem from being taken from the mother too early
truth...
It's incredible
@TMCS I saw somebody else repeat this comment. Weird
@@MJAY-N7129 Same, it's the pinned comment for the video.
I was gonna say comments bot, but they replied to someone after, so not sure for sure now.
"Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."
-Mike Tyson
...applies to more than just people
Youve been to comfortable molesting girls getting and away with it said teddy Atlas to Mike Tyson holding a gun to his head after he molested his 10 year old niece
hah, as I tell everyone "I will defend your right to say the N-word but I won't defend you when you get the s*it kicked out of you for saying it".
I don’t think dogs use social media…
@@abeltesfaye367 gate was the social media in this case, I guess. Metaphor, ever heard of that?
Exactly. Good comment
prince isnt mad, hes not holding a grudge, hes pissing on a rock
It's honestly fascinating to see not only canine socialization as it happens, but it's fantastic you know Prince well enough to have him deal with such training.
Both of you are doing amazing work.
What really blows me away is that little moment at 5:38 where Prince looks towards you, his pack leader, seemingly checking your reaction to the situation. He has an unreal level of self-control and awareness of his surroundings. What an absolute unit of a dog.
Good catch and thanks for the timestamp! I totally agree.
Well noted!
Well noted. Also, I'd be interested to be educated as to why Prince lowered his ears during this brief glance. A sign of submission maybe?
@@christofs-a1834 I think it was a "I'm cool to stop now, I'm even making myself a bit less prepared, so please don't let this get worse" and then when the other dog let it get worse Prince was "that's it then, no more good-wimpy-doggy, you want a fight? A FIGHT YOU'LL GET!" But was also "I don't want to hurt you: I'm just trying to defend myself", and for that it think that's the best dog I've EVER seen
He does! Great alpha dog.
This was an example of Prince having to work harder than normal and show restraint. So cool that Joel stopped and gave him encouragement.
That's all part of his training. You have to calm your dog down after such an encounter, even if he was in the right. And definitely praise him for his job well done.
He presents training in 7 days. Each of 7 items are commands that he believes a dog should know. They are presented in part ii of the book czcams.com/users/postUgkxK8-VQWpYThx4IC6MiIvb6VS1ebTzzdxq . The parts of the guideare divided: part i know your dog part ii the seven commands part iii cures for 7 behavior problems. Each chapter presents a topic, a dog's story, and a "what to do". It was written simply and you can jump from chapter to chapter to review anything as needed.
Its so good to see a dog trainer who UNDERSTANDS the psychology & understands how valuable these lessons are if taught by dogs, not humans.
Youve earned a new sub. Great job and continue doing this. You understand dogs.
Been training dogs for 17 years, have explained this so many times to my clients. This video is AWESOME, and says in a few minutes what takes hours to explain. Thank you !
P.S. Glad to hear you qualify this dog as a 'jerk' instead of 'alpha' or 'dominant'. Am tired of some dog owners still wanting to attribute bad behavior to outdated ideas of hierarchy. I tell them that dogs don't even form packs with strict hierarchy. Bad, jerky behavior is just that, and needs to be corrected in dogs, kids, and adults 😁
I agree to a point for most breeds but when I moved into working with breeds most haven't even heard of (primitive guardian breeds such as the TM) there really is validity to the "need to be alpha" with those breeds.
I thought it was all old wives tales and fooey until about 3 years ago dealing with a 65lb 4.5mth old puppy no trainer in 100 miles would touch, who flew teeth first without hesitation.
Learned a completely new thing working with that dog.
They were bred to think and act on their own and are wildly intelligent.
They are stubborn, dense, assertive and many cases can be very aggressive and if they do not trust that you are strong enough to handle a situation, they will take control of the situation for you, because that is what they were bred for.
Some may never be able to have outside visitors in "their space" (the dogs territory) but other people have had luck so long as the dogs people are there in control of the situation. Seems to depend on breeding and lineage.
Some of these breeds you aren't training as much as you are managing.
So while, I agree that I do not think the Alpha mindset of training works for normal dogs (and I think in most cases you can cause a lot of problems with a normal dog that way), there is a time and place for it and that time is when you're dealing with certain primitive breeds.
This is the first comment I’ve seen to acknowledge this, thank you lol. My time in clinical animal behavior has been validated 🤣
@@beyondimagination07 I dunno, it seems more anecdotal to me if I’m completely honest. I’ve worked with plenty of more “primitive” breeds and never had an issue. Some certainly take more time, like in the cases where they have developed a bite first ask questions later mentality but at the end of the day the same methods as any other dog have always worked for me. I’m not saying everything you said is wrong and that I’m right, just that since we both seem to have completely opposite anecdotes that odds are neither of us our completely right
@@Thomas-zt7dm Curious what primitive breeds you've worked with? :)
@@beyondimagination07 link some actual studies or ur wrong
Prince is beautiful! Omg I mean I've seen him in so many videos but it never ceases to amaze me how gorgeous he is. He's very experienced. The best teacher for dogs is other mature dogs. Usually, this behavior happens bc puppies are given away at an age before their mom starts disciplining them in EXACTLY the way Prince did.
Hey, I know you! I watch your videos. Hello!!!
Hey, good to see you
The ear pinning and tail docking of dobermans is disgusting. I really hope the trainer didn’t get it done to him
@@nerdysloth5003 dog ears and tail are way better than cutting balls off. Were are your morals.
GET OUTTA HERE YA CAT! This is dogs only lol
Edit: I stand corrected. You're a fox! I am sorry
“Your anger . . . you can get lost in it.”
I love this video! I have been a dog trainer for over 7 years, and I have a male Golden Retriever (name Bo) who is just like Prince. Bo has helped hundreds of dogs with their social skills. And you are right, letting dogs teach dogs in this situation is the best thing! Thank you for what you do!
Prince seems to be so well trained! He bites when needed, but not too aggressively. He also shadows the other dog after he corrects them, to let them know that he is not intimidated at all. Incredibly disciplined.
biting and mouting are not the same, prince knows his a unit
Let’s be honest. Prince is trained, period. So many people think they are dog trainers, and don’t get proper training and instruction. And if they do get some puppy classes, it’s usually only one family member getting the training. And really the training is for the owner.
Getting real training for my dog was the best decision, it made my 80lb husky/gs mix such a loving and wonderful dog to have and take out into the world.
That's *not* biting, that's pinching. Dogs bite to hurt but pinch to alert / inform the other dog that he crossed a line he should not have.
Where are the human versions of these trainers 😂 this was incredible especially since Dobermans are my favorite. I didn’t know they can train other dogs!
@khatzeye the human version was Jesus and people still don't listen so there's that.
I never get tired of your training sessions! As a petsitter, I always refer your videos to other dog owners. Thank you for your expertise and encouragement!
What an amazing soul that dog has.
5:39 he looks at his human dad to acknowledge everything is ok and his aggression was well self-controlled like the dog intened. No words spoken, he knew he was trusted 100%.
this is a really great way to train. my dog was very aggressive towards cats, and my cats would always run which didn’t help, just made him think they were prey. eventually my dog found a cat that would actually fight back, and it straightened him out instantly. each new cat he met he was less and less aggressive towards, and now i can have my cat and my dog on the same couch, which i never thought was possible!
We have two cats at home and 3 dogs. The older cat has given up trying to resist attention from the dogs but the other cat won't have a bar of it, sticking up his hackles and doing his very best to sound like a lion.
I'm sure the dogs can tell the cats apart, but they can never seem to understand why the younger one fights back any time they try to touch it since the older one is so relaxed about it.
Since they never really knew why they were chasing the cats in the first place they often look a bit confused when they actually catch the older cat, eventually resorting to an uncomfortable amount of licks which she tolerates until she decides she's had enough and sticks em with the claws. The poor dogs never see it coming after all these years...
Yeah my diddy cat against Labrador sized dog. She gets a quick bop on the shnozz, no claws, that's her warning. It never goes further.
@@SineN0mine3 uhhhh don't you want your other cat to bond with your dogs
@@elevatedvibes9769 sometimes there's nothing you can do about it
@@elevatedvibes9769 Cats are not animals that can be exactly corrected in their behavior. I have two cats and two dogs, the older cat (3 years old) and my older dog (11 years old) practically never in their lives even looked at each other the wrong way, they don't love each other but they respect boundaries. My cat is a bit of a solitary cat and likes being alone which plays into it as well. My younger cat (1 year old) doesn't fight with my older dog either.
The problem is with the younger dog. He is 2 years old, months younger than my oldest cat. They grew up together but my cat as I said is a HUGE introvert and the dog is too much for his liking. They sometimes sleep around each other but when the dog starts being too much he quickly leaves. He only ever stayed around me or my boyfriend but when we were not home he stayed away from the others and just slept in my bed or the couch.
When the younger cat came he became quite fond of him, but since the little one was very playful and liked to bother him a lot he kept his distance for quite some time until he grew up more. Sometimes when he became dirty from playing outside my older cat would take him and clean him lmao something I never saw my cat do with any other cat we fostered or animal for that matter.
Still the younger dog is VERY playful and when he was young we would have to correct him since he was not careful when playing with the others. He is big too. So yeah in my cats' eyes the younger dog is quite bothersome, and they made sure to never let him do as he wanted. If the dog bit them while trying to play or made any move of trying to make the cats submit they didn't take it and were not afraid to use their claws to warn him that they were not ok with what the dog was doing. Same happens in lion prides which is quite funny to think about.
Now my younger dog is way more careful when playing with other animals, not only cats. Since we had to take him when he had just been born (rescued during quarantine, my boyfriend and I have experience and I am a vet student) having an older dog and a cat around him certainly helped him calm down and learn to not be careless while playing. Since he grew around other animals he has never been aggressive with any other dog in the park and is really playful with anyone he meets. Quite the accomplishment for a big dog raised in quarantine tbh.
That hound knew exactly where to attack the other dog, he went straight for the most vulnerable, soft parts of Prince, scary stuff. Also, Prince's restraint here was impressive, he could have seriously injured the hound in just a few seconds, but chose not too, he immediately disengaged when instructed to and then basically ignored the other dog for the rest of the time.
@TMCS lmao copied comment
yo i didnt even notice that. If he really wanted to take a bite there that wouldve been a very serious situation
@TMCS Copied bruh 🤦♀
@TMCS Bro you've been copy-pasting this comment under several threads. It's not good form.
@TMCS It's my business because you're literally reposting the same thing over and over again on a public forum. Like I said, it's bad internet etiquette. Didn't your parents teach you the difference between private and public spaces?
I had a doberman, he made to 12 yo. Wonderful, peacefull and very smart dog. Seeing this makes my heart warm. Your bond is special. ❤
Very effective steps. Let the dog stretch his legs and eliminate and expend some energy, then it's time to go to work and begin learning. Letting him show you what his mindset is and then allow the teacher to come out and communicate the boundaries to the guest. Prince handled it spot on, and your moments of tenderness with him to assure him that he's doing a good job and helping him to stand down emotionally is how you take good care of your helper. Good wake-up call for this hound. Then he learned he could be accepted into the pack and make/have friends while learning how to be a good dog. It's solid teaching, sound methods, real life experience, done with consistency and repetition. Good stuff there.
Yes. My dog, a German shepherd, is very friendly towards other dogs. One day I noticed he was being harsh on a particular dog at the park and right away I called him to get him apart. Soon enough I realized that this other dog was bulling the other ones while the owner was not doing anything about it. I understood then that my dog had been trying to keep this other dog in line so I let him go back to his self-assigned task of keeping order.
That's my German Shepherd exactly. Officer Rico 😂 His rules are 1) Introduce yourself calmly, 2) Play for fun, 3) Don't play rough with any dog who doesn't like it, and 4) deal with me if you break the rules.
He LOVES to race, wrestle and talk all kinds of smack with the Varsity Boys, but they're not fighting for real.
He always keeps a protective eye on the more vulnerable. If there's a child or puppy at the park, he is always somewhere between them and the troublemakers.
As intimidating as he looks, I've learned he really is a born peacekeeper.
The control Prince has (especially at 4:53) is amazing! To have a dog like this proves what a fantastic trainer you are.
I wish I had a dog like Prince. Simply WOW
Animals understand cause-and-effect really well and they learn really fast. Great lesson. His life with his owner is gonna be so much better once he learns boundaries with other dogs.
I love that you explained the "excessive" fawning on Prince, thank you. Yes, he does deserve it, but it's so helpful to know that you were also calming his energy.
I think it was more to show the other dog that what Prince was doing was right and because of that he is getting praise. And what he was doing is wrong and that's why he isn't.
@@gabriellynch2764 no, he explains it precisely right in the moment, here at 7:15.
Prince is just so gorgeous and so well trained - it’s amazing how he keeps this composure when interacting with the dogs in need of training that go for him (and his nuts - every one of the visiting dogs goes right for those) even with their muzzles on - Prince is a zen master and gives them an appropriate smack down.
@@gabriellynch2764if only you watched the video before you commented.
@@gabriellynch2764 the misinformation of this comment is so funny to me
Prince cracks me up. He’s amazing to watch. He makes a lot of noise but no harm. He’s not really trying to bite. In my mind he’s saying “ugh not another one. Bruh I said leave me alone and we good, ok wormed you…..now you good?”
Thank you for allowing these dogs to teach other dogs, and for being a knowledgeable and informed Pack Leader. We need more Dog Whisperers like you on these social media channels. Also, your training facility looks great brother!! Much success to you and your organization.
you telling prince he’s a good boy just made my day
I've been a veterinary technician for 25 years and this is the best dog body language video I have ever seen. This was a dog and dog issue. The hound was corrected by a well trained, non aggressive fellow dog. The correction was warranted and absolutely perfect. Well done!
Same psycholically most succesfull strategy as with humans - "Tit for tat". Look it up, those who are interested.
The gentle whispering into prince’s ear “you’re the best boy
"It's not what it looks like"
@@gomboc5146 lmao I know. I was like "we aint judging you, man. He is the best boy"
im the best boy
I am, you're right.
My dog started whining at me when he was saying "you're the best boy". I just pet him and told him, "you pooped in the house yesterday, you're top 5 at best"
Excellent display and breakdown, especially with the focus on body language. Prince is incredible!
I love how you emphasized the importance of calming Prince down after the other dog was testing him. Thank you for doing what you do, in such a complete way, and teaching the rest of us.
Respect. Your Dog Prince was amazing. I have seen many dogs reacting but watching this was amazing how good he reacted not biting the other dog.
I've seen a well trained Doberman hold down a misbehaving dog by the back of the neck and growl calmly till it settled. I was really impressed. Prince is a marvellous example
_"Can a dog fix another dog's aggression?"_
Probably. A lot of aggression issues are because one dog doesn't know dog manners, possibly because of being taken away from their families too early. Learning about boundaries and dog manners is very important for young dogs.
Prince is being astonishingly gentle with that hound.
Prince is a great helper, a moderate personality dog with an understanding of the overall intention great connection. I currently have 5 dogs and although I try my best to pass on the same ideas, I notice that a lot comes from the dog itself and its personality. Great insights !!! Subscribed and eager to watch the rest of your content.
Price is such a good boy, and I appreciate the way this trainer understands the important roll and truly hard work that Prince does on a regular basis.
From 5:35 note how Prince looks up at his trainer to ensure that he is doing well and also to check if he should continue with his controlled agression. Amazing video, amazing trainer, amazing dog.
I think that was when he called princes name
Controlled aggression , why not just say aggression ??
@@starsixtyseven195 because It's aggression but controlled
@@starsixtyseven195 because prince backs off when commqnded to thats controlled aggression, and even then it wasnt aggression it was pack dominance
@@greyman7605 i see still kinda cold tho
Prince doing his job like a pro. Going just as far as he needs to. Something something least aversive method likely to work. I bet you didn't need to call him at the end of it, but I understand that you did (and would've done the same.)
Yes! I was wondering how that would have played out uninterrupted. But yes; the lesson was learned--and now Prince also knows he doesn't actually hv to go very far to teach a lesson🐾❤️
@@jillsy2815 Prince already knows that hes been doing this for years lol
@@sleepyheartss Ya Prince is a good boi🐾❤️🐾❤️🐾❤️
This training (metaphorically) would be useful for humans too, holding boundaries and standing up to others in a respectful way. Thank you for sharing and narrating what's going on.
That is why homeschooled kids are so "off"
I love how Price is briefly checking with the owner if he's doing alright at 5:38 And right away moving forward with doing the job.
100% love allowing Prince to set the tone on the interactions. With dogs being pack animals this cadence is a perfect approach.
Why are a lot of young kids punks? No consequences for their actions. Prince hit the balance parenting needs to be. Firm but never over the line.
@@SirCanuckelhead and ideally those lessons are reinforced by how their peers respond to their actions, which means all parents should take the time to teach their kids properly.
@@Pizzastealingninja A kid who has good parenting quickly learn at a young age the double standards life can throw at you. Fair that it is not an easy concept to understand and be ok with. Not that you should be ok with it but in the way that it does not live rent free in your head.
Dogs aren’t pack animals like wolves are but regardless this form of training appeals heavily towards the way they learn, specifically the amoral aspect.
@@Thomas-zt7dm Well in truth, wolves aren't pack animals either unless they are in captivity. Wild wolves are just a family group composed of the parents and their kids.
This man is spot on. I'm glad that we are seeing more of society getting away from positive only, no negativity training. Where you can't even tell your dog 'NO'. Positive only is a great starting place, but it will not work on every single dog. Then your just beating your head against the wall, and dog and owner are frustrated. Someone ends up getting hurt and sometimes dog ends up being euthanized. Prince and you are lucky to have been brought together. I've only met a few dogs that have his gentile personality. Great work!
Actually, a great positive only trainer can do things that would surprise you. The problem is there are very few people withe knowledge or skill. Or even KNOW what marker training is.
After all, you don't see the folks training killer whales giving up and electrocution the orca when they (the humans) can't figure out how to train something!
Today people with no business trying to train a dog slap a shock collar on and call themselves a "trainer".
I've put multiple schH 3 and s French ring Brevet on a gamebred pit bull without correction... but I know what marker training is.
But I will agree with you about this: many dogs and many people fail at marker training and in some cases there may be a better method based on the character of trainer and dog.
This is technically positive reinforcement. Positive reinforcement is based around the idea of action and consequence, either "good" (treat) or "bad" (Prince giving him a stern reaction). Negative reinforcement is based around the avoidance or repression of behavior, often out of fear, which is what leads some dogs to be reactive because it is bottled up until the dog can't take it anymore.
@@briandaaranda9735 positive reinforcement has no negative consequences. Both of their corrections were negative reinforcement. But it was in a very controlled and thoughtful manner. The corrections were not pleasant to the dog, therefore it's not positive reinforcement.
@@DocSeville I am only able to slightly agree with you. Positive only (marker- positive without corrections) is the best way to start. It builds a strong bond with their owner, and hopefully leads to strong trust. Not all dogs graduate from this style of training, and other methods have to be used. I can guarantee is a puppy or adult dog nips or bites me I'm gonna squeal 'OWW' and 'NO'! But that's not positive. Alternative is redirection, which may work, but I choose to tell them that hurts and I don't like that. I'm not a fan of shock collar, but the do have their place in trading world. Examples are rattlesnake training and hunting. And yes their are way too many "trainers" who cause more damage than help with ignorance.
@@briandaaranda9735 reinforcement actually means you are encouraging a behavior you like versus punishment is discouraging a behavior you dislike. In this case, prince used positive punishment. (Positive meaning adding something to the situation, whereas negative if taking something away). Prince did not like the dog biting at him, therefore he "bit" him back to correct the behavior he did not like! I'm a psychology graduate who works in behavior and this concept is always difficult to understand!
I appreciate your audio that is very good explanation of what is happening when it happens. Much easier to understand since you're doing after the video not commentating as its happening. Well done
It was also impressive to see Prince naturally herd the hound away from the gate/house. Very well trained dog, great channel!
I appreciate how you explain "setting the dog up for success" in detail. It's really easy to put an animal through unnecessary stress, and you're so thorough in your set-up with both Prince and the visiting dog. I'm so glad the hound's owner is so understanding of what's going on, that's great (and not always common) to see!
Also, your facility is gorgeous!
@TMCS copy and pasted
Agree. I've worked with dogs and cats, and it's disturbing how many people set their pets up to fail.
"in he detail" no, it's just a selling line. All the rest is real tho, a real pro.
This is not setting the dog up for success. Everything that happened here set these dogs up to fail. Nothing here was setting them up for success. PLEASE. Never do this with ANY dog. This is Terrible.
@@alexandrialecarpentier9877 Explain? How is letting a dog walk off their energy after arriving to a new place setting them up to fail? Letting them take a shit? Letting them smell the other dog through the gate for a considerable amount of time to get them acquainted without a fight [also putting a muzzle on the dog when it didn't calm down, which is known to calm dogs down]?
Like?? What do you mean, everything said in this video seems very logical to me, very much set this dog up to success. And he seems to be doing great, if a little shy of other dogs, but he said 5 days passed so I guess that's understandable.
I am currently working with my reactive boy. He’s fine with dogs he knows, but has no clue on social etiquette on those all important first meetings…until I started walking him with my old lab. Alfie is an 11 year old gentleman who still loves a little play now and then. We met another lab that Charlie (leashed), immediately started growling at. The other lab ignored him and started to play with mine. When Charlie saw this, he stopped growling and started crying instead, suddenly realising he was being a complete idiot and missing out because of it. Now when he meets the lab, he plays with him and will walk nicely with us if we’re all going the same way. Thanks Alfie you lovely boy!
You still have to be careful with leashed dogs. Loose dogs will view them as being at a disadvantage or that there is a reason they are not approaching as another loose dog would. This can either make the loose dog defensive or fearful. I can't tell you how many times a person walks into the off leash dog park with a dog on leash and they immediately stop their dog from greeting the other dogs. 9 out of 10 times, the other dogs approach in a group. The dog on leash immediately tries to back off or hide because it knows it is at a disadvantage and will try to make the owner run by pulling away. When it can't get away, it has no choice but to display aggression to protect itself. Once it does that, the dogs that are already there sense the dog as aggressive and can gang up on it. This further escalates the aggression in all of them. The owner pulling back the dog in the first place is the issue. This also erodes the confidence of the leashed dog and they will react the same way if the owner leaves with the dog. Most of us tell the owner to let the dog off before they get too close. All of ours are under voice control and gentle. When the do that, the dogs introduce themselves and all is usually well. There may be corrections by the other dogs and all have an individual tolerance limit, but they all know the warnings learned as here. For the 100's of dog that have come to the park since I have been going we have only had two incidents of minor injury and both were unintentional between dogs that already knew and got along with each other, both when running and playing. The above scenario can also happen with individual dogs on the street. My dog, on leash, was shown aggression when walking by a yard without a fence and the owner let their dog run. He felt we were invading his territory and he was aggressive. We re-introduced immediately and she, because of her confidence, was able to wind him around her paw! He learned from her later that it wasn't ok to push her around! He was also a dog that was not corrected on his behavior by another dog.
@TMCS Why did you steal Goombah's comment and plaster it all over..
@TMCS why did you steal goombah’s comment
Wonderful video, thank you. Prince is a wonder and your care and intelligence working with dogs is clear. Thanks.
You and Prince are heroes. WOW... such a magical work!
This seems to be a thing dogs intrinsically understand, from my experience and observation. I have a Maine coon cat who has no patience for high energy dogs, and because of his size dogs often challenge him.
My golden retriever only needed one swat in the face from the cat to learn that he shouldn't mess with this sharp furry thing. Now, their interactions are peaceful and relaxed
And that's why people needed some punching in their faces from their parents to understand not to be douches to other people.
You see this sort of interaction with dogs and their parents. Plenty of videos of puppies barking and challenging their mother or father but the parent will set boundaries and the pup will know what’s acceptable and what’s not
Depends on the cat but yeah,cats helped train my dog to not be a butthead to smaller critters too. But have had to put the cats in thier place once or twice too after that because they started being buttheads to the dog. But noticed noises like hissing at em works for cats tho instead of verbal commands like with dogs tho.
Some one said cats are the best teachers when it comes to boundaries
@@BhadVhibes depends on the dog breed but yeah this can be true
Him softly whispering good boy in the middle of the video was so wholesome and adorable
As a first time viewer, man I love prince❤❤❤
The confidence and poise that dog emits is amazing!
Very smart looking dog❤
#PrinceforPresident
I noticed how many times prince looked at his owner for confirmation of what he's doing is correct/justified. What a well-trained dog im impressed lol
You want to know the most telling sign of a pro? At 4:18, after calling Prince off, listen to what the trainer does. I felt tension on this side of the screen just watching the interaction between the two dogs. Its a stressful process. Big breath exhale. The trainer knew to release and rid himself of his own. He does it again at 6:00. This means he's not just a robot, or arrogant in his knowledge. HE CARES. This interaction impacts him too. Awesome. I hope Prince lives to be 50. He is a very good boy. And this trainer is top one percent.
I agree with you & I noticed it also!! Although I didn’t say it as eloquent ! But I like the fact that it stressed the trainer out ( He didn’t just sick a Doberman on a muzzled dog & enjoyed it) He set everything up with safety & so to succeed 👍 Like Cesar Millan says No bad dog’s just train ppl ( & humans are what screws dogs up, mostly unintentionally) Like I love my dog so much I tend to over feed her because she’s so good lol but many of us train dogs wrong in 1 way or another!! I would love to train dogs & watch many Trainers, Cesar is great & Studies dogs natural way’s like posture & the smallest signs of tails, ears Etc
Second breath is more at 5:56 ..but yeah 💯
I think people with high empathy and good emotional self-awareness understand animals best. Without the empathy / sensitivity to emotions of others it's more difficult to understand what the dog is experiencing, and without the emotional self-awareness you get swept along with the dog's emotional/energy state too much. So they get tense and then you get tense. So you have to have a finger on your own pulse so to speak and make yourself a calm stable beacon. The breathing deeply is one of many self-soothing behaviours. A person with both (and lots of experience with dogs), like the guy in this video, can regulate his dog's emotional state by managing his own. Dogs are very sensitive to emotion (especially tension/stress). This is also why many dogs develop socializing issues due to their owner getting nervous and tense meeting other dogs.
@@NLTops 100 percent yes. Now we need to bring that same awareness to our homes...and politics.
@@NLTops If I may ask, what do you do for a living or what life experiences do you have that allow you to see it this well? I was very impressed with your answer and how well connected it is to the reality of dogs training and emotions. I was a farrier for 23 years and working around horses made it important to be able to use these skills.
This interaction is incredible! Prince is such a nice dog ❤
Prince is an incredibly stable, sensible and patient dog...
Love the slow mo because it shows that Prince had no intention to cause harm, just "check yo self" moment. Love it. Although, I agree this scenario only works because you know Prince so well.
Befo you reck yo self
Joel: “I wouldn’t do it Luke, it ain’t smart dude”
Luke: “You’re right, Prince means business”
😂
7:41
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Prince is King, a godsend to help those who need an understanding of the rules of a pack. His love for his dad and his dad's love for him, lets Prince know he will never be put in harm's way.
i love dobermans, funny puppers and will protect when necessary and are very good with people
“Dog need to be checked”, “He doesn’t want the smoke” I love this guy already😂 incorporating slang is gonna bring in a bigger audience keep it up
🤣🤣🤣👍🏽
Prince is one super good boy! The restraint is very impressive. That beagle is a good boy, too, he just needed a little lesson. Always nice to see an owner taking extra steps to help their dog live a better life, release their tension and anxiety, and be able to relax and enjoy socializing.
Tf
@@Zombina638 what
I don't think that's a beagle, he is too tall. but I agree with your comment. If a person wants to be able to live with a dog that has some behaviors that need correcting, they really should. It's good to take the steps needed to improve quality of life for the dog and owner! Now the dog gets to have buddies to play with. Prince is impressive with his ability to control himself.
Fascinating! Incredible how you understand how dogs think.
Awesome thanks I love your training!
I'm not a dog specialist, and it was a revelation to me that a dog trainer can use an assistant dog to correct other dog's behavior. So cool! I realize that lots of work should be put in raising such assistant. Amazing.
I'm much more knowledgeable with cats, but it works basically the same way. Nothing will ever speak to an animal quite like another animal of the same species. This dog was probably not well socialized being a former hunting dog. So he saw a stranger, and the anxiety of "This unfamiliar dog could potentially hurt me" came up, and all other feelings went out. You make him helpless to human judgment by putting a muzzle on him, against a dog much bigger than he is, then the natural fight or flight instincts will slowly go down when they realize they can't do anything about their situation and the dog will learn to trust the human's judgment. These are things that should've been done when he was a puppy as that would've been doable without muzzling, but unfortunately the most efficient way to break that out of an adult dog is to pit it helpless against a dog twice his size that you know wouldn't hurt the aggressive one.
Prince is a FREAKING LIVING LEGEND!!!!
👏🏼🙌🏼
Prince has eldest sibling energy
truly amazing as Prince displayed restraint and a measured response.
more tact than observed in some humans.
Joel’s control over Prince is amazing. Actually Prince is amazing, therapy dog for dogs. X
7:10 - Prince: I'm the goodest boy
Prince perfectly understands what "necessary amount of force" is.
Absolutely awesome, Prince is a legend, and a testement to you Joel 👍🐶❤️
The few hunting packs I've seen, there is definitely a hierarchy in that pack, and if that hound came from a pack, since he was removed from that hunting pack he has been unsure of other dogs and testing every other dog he meets because he was used to being checked by other hunting dogs letting him know where the boundary was. Seems like yes, having another dog correct him in their natural languages of behavior and body language was totally the right call.
The packs is a family mainly.
The hierarchy is
1.Dad and mom
2.Kids
Dogs can't learn how to be dogs from people
@@ColdNorth0628 dogs can still form non family packs
@@ColdNorth0628 That's in wolves, which are not dogs. A "pack" of dog is just a group of dogs, and dogs are very social creatures that often stick together regardless of breed or relation.
@@bruhstick6736 course. Im just saying the main thing with wolves is a family.