You can put regular tiles on the ceiling instead of being forced to use 2" mosaics (which adds too many grout lines and all that grout can absorb the steam moisture). The trick is to use *EPOXY based mortar* and support the tiles with plywood and some 2X4s until the mortar gets enough strength to hold the tiles up. Also, for steam showers, research into what type of grout need to be used. Most people say to use *Epoxy based grout* since it has natural moisture barrier built into it and does not require constant sealing and nearly waterproof. Regular grout is not recommended for steam showers as it absorbs moisture even with regular sealing regiment.
Hi. Does a steam shower ceiling always have to use a mosaic type tile? I have a 12x48 or even larger tile, but my contractor says he doesn't recommend using that size, for safety reasons. Is this true at all?
Well... I incorrectly installed a 24x24 tile and that tile came crashing down in my shower. It destroyed my saddle and did some serious damage. It was from install error, not a safety thing. If you know how to install tile on a ceiling using the right mortar, it will be fine. From being spooked about the failure I decided to go with the tile in the video. If I was going to do it again(I am in my new home build) I'm going to install large format tile because I now know how to install them properly. In summary, the tile guy does not have confidence in installing the larger tile.
@@TodayIWorkOn You can put regular tiles on the ceiling. The trick is to use *EXPOXY based mortar* and after installing all the ceiling tiles, support the tiles with some plywood and 2x4 lumber until the epoxy sets over night. It is not good to have too many grout lines due to steam moisture penetrating the grout so I suggest also using *EPOXY grout* which is almost impervious to moisture and does not need to be sealed and maintained like regular grout.
What are the dimensions of your steam shower? As has been mentioned TCNA spec is 2 inch per ft, so how has that 5/8 inch per ft slope performed over time? 1:17
It's been fine. I only recall one time I had a drip hit the top of my head. TBH, 2" is a pretty steep angle and I didn't want to move my shower heads lower to where they are at this pitch. Everything is a compromise. 2" a foot would be a no go because of where the shower heads are. 4' deep by 5' wide.
The steam showers I’ve waterproofed have always had 2” per ft where did u get 5/8s from ? We also never used redguard it was sheet membrane called Noble Ts
You can put regular tiles on the ceiling instead of being forced to use 2" mosaics (which adds too many grout lines and all that grout can absorb the steam moisture). The trick is to use *EPOXY based mortar* and support the tiles with plywood and some 2X4s until the mortar gets enough strength to hold the tiles up. Also, for steam showers, research into what type of grout need to be used. Most people say to use *Epoxy based grout* since it has natural moisture barrier built into it and does not require constant sealing and nearly waterproof. Regular grout is not recommended for steam showers as it absorbs moisture even with regular sealing regiment.
Thanks for mentioning two trowel sizes used.
Off topic for ceiling - but what type of light do you use for inside steam shower
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Good question
Hi. Does a steam shower ceiling always have to use a mosaic type tile? I have a 12x48 or even larger tile, but my contractor says he doesn't recommend using that size, for safety reasons. Is this true at all?
Well... I incorrectly installed a 24x24 tile and that tile came crashing down in my shower. It destroyed my saddle and did some serious damage. It was from install error, not a safety thing. If you know how to install tile on a ceiling using the right mortar, it will be fine.
From being spooked about the failure I decided to go with the tile in the video. If I was going to do it again(I am in my new home build) I'm going to install large format tile because I now know how to install them properly.
In summary, the tile guy does not have confidence in installing the larger tile.
@@TodayIWorkOn You can put regular tiles on the ceiling. The trick is to use *EXPOXY based mortar* and after installing all the ceiling tiles, support the tiles with some plywood and 2x4 lumber until the epoxy sets over night. It is not good to have too many grout lines due to steam moisture penetrating the grout so I suggest also using *EPOXY grout* which is almost impervious to moisture and does not need to be sealed and maintained like regular grout.
For waterproof did you use kerdi board or applied redgard on hardy boards?
I used cement board with 4 coats of redguard. You really need a totally vapor proof setup for these steam showers.
4 coats is good enough or should i have kerdi waterproof membrane on top too for better vapor proof?
@@avinash348 I think you can never have enough vapor barrier in a steam shower. Go to town with it. Lol.
@@TodayIWorkOn so did your steam shower lasted long with 4 coats without any issues?
@@avinash348 it’s doing just fine after 2 years of use.
What are the dimensions of your steam shower? As has been mentioned TCNA spec is 2 inch per ft, so how has that 5/8 inch per ft slope performed over time? 1:17
It's been fine. I only recall one time I had a drip hit the top of my head. TBH, 2" is a pretty steep angle and I didn't want to move my shower heads lower to where they are at this pitch. Everything is a compromise. 2" a foot would be a no go because of where the shower heads are. 4' deep by 5' wide.
@TodayIWorkOn thanks for your prompt response, for some reason I’m just seeing now
The steam showers I’ve waterproofed have always had 2” per ft where did u get 5/8s from ?
We also never used redguard it was sheet membrane called Noble Ts
Any specific mortars recommended for ceiling?
Schluter All Set works well. There’s also a special mortar made just for ceiling installs, forgot the name, simple google search will answer that.
Ardex X 77 or Mapei ultralite S2
Costum prolight
2” per foot TCNA
1 foot should have 0.5-2” slope??? Sounds way excessive but just my opinion.
TCNA is 2” per foot - you can also slope from the middle out on each side
1/4 per foot way enought