The Greatest Synth-Pop Bass Line EVER

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  • čas přidán 8. 01. 2023
  • #bass #history #analysis #transcription #newwave #nickbeggs #paulthompson
    In this video, I'll revisit an iconic bass line that has haunted me since childhood and the brilliant bassist that wrote it and played it and blew us all away in the process. Diving into 1983's "Too Shy" by Kajagoogoo and the amazing bass line that made Nick Beggs a giant among men!
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  • @nickbeggsofficial
    @nickbeggsofficial Před 11 měsíci +6282

    This is very kind and thoughtful. Thanks for remembering me. x

    • @uriahbelletto
      @uriahbelletto Před 11 měsíci +392

      Wow, it's great to see you on youtube and commenting. I *love* telling people about how great you are as a bassist and use this song as an example. You definitely inspire me as a bassist!

    • @RoseTheRealest
      @RoseTheRealest Před 11 měsíci +42

      😍🤩

    • @philipmazonson4694
      @philipmazonson4694 Před 11 měsíci +93

      Love you with Steven Wilson , He's no fool . You are a amazing part of the band !

    • @gregorytaylor9104
      @gregorytaylor9104 Před 11 měsíci +57

      One of the best memories of my tween years.

    • @sk8rtim709
      @sk8rtim709 Před 11 měsíci +72

      Thanks for helping me survive my childhood. ❤

  • @Tubes12AX7k
    @Tubes12AX7k Před rokem +1023

    Nick Beggs and John Taylor are two of the most overlooked musicians, probably just because they play for pop groups, but they are amazing.

    • @SuzanneVoelker
      @SuzanneVoelker Před rokem +9

      Absolutely!

    • @jgmccabe
      @jgmccabe Před rokem +44

      I'm a big Duran Duran and John Taylor fan, and a bass player but, technically, he's not in the same league as Nick Beggs.

    • @craigsg01
      @craigsg01 Před rokem +13

      I've seen Nick Beggs play with Iona ( Jazz / Celtic / Prog / Fusion ) a few times. Great musician !

    • @thelmawintercat
      @thelmawintercat Před rokem +7

      JT, divine! 💜

    • @edwardsanchez3708
      @edwardsanchez3708 Před rokem +1

      I taught him everything he knows about bass 🔊 😌

  • @5150show
    @5150show Před rokem +230

    Just like John Taylor from Duran Duran , that bass line from Rio was written when he was only 22 . Incredible

    • @oceanaxim
      @oceanaxim Před 8 měsíci +17

      I just discovered this channel today, and I was just going to comment about John Taylor but you beat me to it.
      I remember reading that Bernard Edwards of CHIC was his biggest influence and if you don't know the bass riff from GOOD TIMES by CHIC, then you just don't care about a good bass line. I also think Bernard Edwards willed one of his favorite basses to John Taylor after he passed.

    • @babybear9740
      @babybear9740 Před 8 měsíci +13

      Love love love John Taylor. The bass line on Rio is truly epic

    • @thernandez7250
      @thernandez7250 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@babybear9740 I was about to say the same.

    • @thernandez7250
      @thernandez7250 Před 8 měsíci +6

      That is a MEAN and epic bass line. The bass makes the whole song.

    • @KeithCollyer
      @KeithCollyer Před 6 měsíci +4

      Whenever people talk about pop / yacht rock bass lines from the 80s, it's either this one or Rio that they mean.

  • @jerryp514
    @jerryp514 Před 11 měsíci +305

    Thanks for this. Nick Beggs is amazing. Because people don’t listen well and write off New Wave as just synth music, he and John Taylor are criminally underrated.

    • @forwardsdrawkcab
      @forwardsdrawkcab Před 10 měsíci +3

      Probably because the music as a whole was quite corny.
      This track rather sucks, except for the good bits focused on here in this video.

    • @jiros00
      @jiros00 Před 10 měsíci +15

      The musicians in many synth based bands are top quality. All of Duran Duran are accomplished musicians. I don't like all their stuff but Ordinary World has a unique, complicated chord structure rarely found in rock music. It's amazing.

    • @Mickkarnn
      @Mickkarnn Před 10 měsíci +22

      Don't forget Mick Karn of Japan!

    • @NachtSchreck13
      @NachtSchreck13 Před 10 měsíci +7

      ​@@forwardsdrawkcabyou're crazy. This song is crazy dope.

    • @vracan
      @vracan Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@forwardsdrawkcab I disagree I think the song is great and catchy. You think too technical and not enough emotionally, which is how a song should relate.

  • @markflower8885
    @markflower8885 Před rokem +911

    The fact that Nick Beggs was voted best bass player in Prog for 5 years running tells you everything about his ability and he's such a likeable guy too.

    • @TheUprightLuthier-1959
      @TheUprightLuthier-1959 Před rokem +12

      Absolutely right. If you HAVE to play some pop... Start on pop when you're very young. Then NEVER look back. Never play it except for a laugh: remember when we played this? Pop is poison. Classical is the growth medium, Prog is the goal.

    • @phillymopwater
      @phillymopwater Před rokem +96

      @TheUprightLuthier-1959 what a laughingly and disappointingly small minded view

    • @TheUprightLuthier-1959
      @TheUprightLuthier-1959 Před rokem

      @@phillymopwater Your fallacious observation was proven false over 2000 years ago. Reductio ad absurdum is one of several apagogical arguments with too many exceptions to count rendering the statement false without additional claims. I'm laughing at you. Pop is short for popular (in case your small mind lacks the prerequisites) Popular is the lowest common denominator (same) where music is made for the expressed purpose of appealing to the most different people with different tastes and different cultures. You have to remove elements of composition, that are too complex for the simple-minded (like you) to appreciate. Remove anything; from alternate time signatures, discordant melodies, counter melodies, progressions. You have to stick to cookie-cutter recipes, with familiar form and chords, add a hook and throw it against the wall to see if it sticks. Make a thousand more and you might have an album. We call it "selling out". Prostitution. OR: The music biz. My view is that of a retired professional, my advice is normally expensive, only an idiot would not appreciate it for free. I was in what is now called a boy band in college, I played in an american philharmonic for 30 years, I am now in a symphonic metal band. The structure still has me learning, practicing, getting better, and enjoying the music. If I had to play ANYTHING LESS, I would drink bleach. Pop is determined by the ignorant. They wouldn't know QUALITY if it bit them on the ass.

    • @and321now
      @and321now Před rokem +8

      That’s because there’s like 7 prog bass players in total….

    • @FLASHAHOLIC_TV
      @FLASHAHOLIC_TV Před rokem +9

      @@and321now Throw Beggs Chapman playing into the mix!

  • @oneconsc3333
    @oneconsc3333 Před rokem +465

    Many musicians from the 80’s new wave scene were not given enough credit like the drummer from Simple minds and lest not forget the bassist/singer from Level 42🙏🏼💜🇨🇦

    • @PainInTheS
      @PainInTheS Před rokem +25

      On point with those 2....although most people with a little more than average interest in music would recognize Mark King's bass skills as phenomenal.
      Simple minds' drummer.....oh hell yes he's great! Never heard him get much credit....but he's a beast.

    • @Jack-russell103
      @Jack-russell103 Před rokem +9

      I remember reading an article a out mel gaynor from simple minds in the 80s describing him as the best drummer in the world at that time

    • @scotabot7826
      @scotabot7826 Před rokem +25

      Mark King is a Legend all across the world!! Facts!

    • @LeeGee
      @LeeGee Před rokem +11

      Yeah, no-one forgot Mark King and his incredible thumb.

    • @daveroche6522
      @daveroche6522 Před rokem +8

      Ah yes - Level 42 - if memory serves, Mark (King) was one of the (very) few to be offered/given an Alembic. Sweet!

  • @joeszczechowski8333
    @joeszczechowski8333 Před rokem +123

    Nick Beggs was one of the best bass players to come out of the 80s

    • @65Antonis
      @65Antonis Před 6 měsíci +6

      He still is! ❤

    • @enduser63
      @enduser63 Před 4 měsíci

      I can only think of Mick Khan from Japan he was quite good Glen Matlock Pistols solid bassist don't forget Mr Beggs was at the age of too young for the 70 s he was of his age 21 early 1980 s excellent to hear he still plays well

    • @SpocksBart
      @SpocksBart Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@65Antonis… for example with the mighty Steven Wilson!

  • @robwilson782
    @robwilson782 Před rokem +253

    I'm not a musician and I don't play guitar or bass, but watching you play those riffs helps me hear it so much better. It brings a new appreciation for a song I grew up with. Thank you for that.

    • @zzyzxx13
      @zzyzxx13 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Well said, Rob. And I agree.

    • @kehindea
      @kehindea Před 11 měsíci +2

      And this was from a teeny bopper band lol. They as well as lots of other British pop bands from the 80s were schooled in music. Can't say the same when we hit the 90s lol

    • @kdfox2007
      @kdfox2007 Před 8 měsíci +2

      100 THIS

  • @cjmq1970
    @cjmq1970 Před rokem +88

    Along with Duran Duran’s John Taylor, Nick Beggs is underrated because of his “too pretty to be stuntman” feature.
    Both are such hell-of-a-good bassists.

    • @illegalquantity
      @illegalquantity Před 7 měsíci

      I agree. Nick Beggs, John Taylor, Mark King, and also the Stock Aitken Waterman trio made fantastic bass lines.

  • @CruceEntertainment
    @CruceEntertainment Před rokem +42

    Man. I’ve never heard anyone analyze Too Shy so deeply!!!! Mad respect!!!

  • @countryclub1113
    @countryclub1113 Před 6 měsíci +26

    I've been playing bass for 32 years. I remember seeing the "Too Shy" video over and over on MTV when I was a kid, and I went out and bought the single. I always loved that baseline in the intro, and when I figured it out for the first time and played it, I was like... yeah, this is sick lol. Bravo Mr. Beggs... Bravo.😎

  • @Metalrogue
    @Metalrogue Před 10 měsíci +10

    I'm a life long metal head, but I must admit this song was a guilty pleasure. The bass is just so good! Thanks for the trip down memory lane!

  • @russisaac813
    @russisaac813 Před rokem +64

    Nik Beggs Has always been overlooked, and a fabulous singing voice as well.

  • @idmhead0160
    @idmhead0160 Před rokem +373

    Could you imagine having this guy for a teacher? He's a pretty amazing dude.

  • @set1instone
    @set1instone Před 11 měsíci +41

    I think Nick was severely underrated at that time. I didn't know till seeing this, how good he was. Speechless here. 😮.

    • @Keyser_Soze739
      @Keyser_Soze739 Před 9 měsíci

      Not because you didn’t know him that he’s underrated, simply.

  • @marklowe7431
    @marklowe7431 Před 9 měsíci +100

    Beggs is extremely underrated. Great you cast some light on this very talented bassist.

    • @jumpinjojo
      @jumpinjojo Před 8 měsíci +1

      Really? What’s his rating??

    • @toyman81
      @toyman81 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@jumpinjojo 98

    • @adamsariego2794
      @adamsariego2794 Před 4 měsíci

      So if I rate him high does that still make hime underrated? Stuppid remark

  • @neilcreamer8207
    @neilcreamer8207 Před rokem +142

    Nick Beggs is a consummate professional. Some of his contributions to Steven Wilson's music are the epitome of understated genius.

  • @JCridford
    @JCridford Před rokem +33

    Nick Beggs is a monster player. He used to live up the road from my uncle, and I used to see him around Leighton Buzzard a bit - really nice guy who would always say 'hello' when you saw him. It's quite remarkable what he came up with for such a young player. You don't get to play with the likes of Steve Hackett or Tony Levin without being a virtuoso.

  • @SpookyElectric319
    @SpookyElectric319 Před 11 měsíci +72

    It’s such an iconic bassline with that driving power. And Nick continues to produce sublime material to this day. We thank you Nicholas!

  • @tonykeogh6139
    @tonykeogh6139 Před rokem +17

    The man is a musical genius. As a 70’s classic rock follower I have to admit that the 80’s brought about some fantastic bassists.

  • @andyhinds542
    @andyhinds542 Před rokem +167

    This breakdown of the bass line makes me appreciate it even more. Hard to think it was released 40 years ago this month.

    • @keithmurray9241
      @keithmurray9241 Před rokem +9

      Oh... why... oh.... why... did you remind us of THAT!!!??? Cruelty I say!! Cruelty!!

    • @scottdaniels8129
      @scottdaniels8129 Před rokem +4

      @@keithmurray9241 Reminds me of back when they started playing the 80's stuff on the "oldies" station. It was a slap in the face as to how much time had gone by.

    • @sammyslam1
      @sammyslam1 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@scottdaniels8129....no time has gone by......😂
      We are moving, changing, adapting but time is eternal....
      ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @alessandroarcuri209
    @alessandroarcuri209 Před rokem +175

    Nick Beggs is also a killer Chapman Stick player.
    While singing, of course!

    • @finnmcginn9931
      @finnmcginn9931 Před rokem +5

      Tony Levin left his Chapman Stick at my house a week ago and I think I could give them both a run for their money now.
      Nothing about my comment is based in truth.

    • @chuckybastard
      @chuckybastard Před rokem +9

      My wife tossed a bra at Nick Beggs at a Steven Wilson concert while he was playing the stick and singing backing vocals… he smirked and didn’t miss a note

    • @Spothface
      @Spothface Před rokem +5

      @@finnmcginn9931 A Great Joke that I will pass on to Tony Levin if/when I see him again at one of the local Bars here in Kingston NY where I live about 25 blocks or so from Tony Levins nice old Colonial House. Tony grew up here and is just another local yokal. A very nice educated Man. People who grew up in small towns are more grounded in life I should think.

    • @jaklumen
      @jaklumen Před rokem +1

      @@finnmcginn9931 of course Tony Levin is a colossus player in his own right. Besides the Chapman Stick, there's the Funky Fingers

    • @mrJimCharles
      @mrJimCharles Před rokem +1

      @@finnmcginn9931 you're Tony Levin's barber, aren't you???

  • @giri.goyo_yt
    @giri.goyo_yt Před rokem +20

    THANK YOU for highlighting this bass line, and artistry of Beggs. Wow. How many times I’ve tried to convey the genius of this song and it fell on deaf ears. You rock, pdbass. Funk on.

  • @2GoodLookin
    @2GoodLookin Před 7 měsíci +9

    This song made me want to learn how to play the bass. So many cover bands could never play this song because of the bass line. One of the greatest pop songs ever.

  • @marvintaylor3492
    @marvintaylor3492 Před rokem +62

    Finally this one gets it's deserved recognition. Cheers to Nick Beggs!

    • @jumpinjojo
      @jumpinjojo Před rokem +2

      He was voted best bass Prog rock musician for 5 years straight. Wake up.

  • @marniesutton9553
    @marniesutton9553 Před rokem +133

    I think that John Taylor is the quintessential 80s bassist, but this one IS sublime. Fun fact - Kajagoogoo was discovered & produced by Nick Rhodes from Duran Duran, so the sound similarities are no coincidence.

    • @HandmadeDarcy
      @HandmadeDarcy Před rokem +5

      Exactly the comment I was checking for, before making it myself 😊. No doubt great bass player but the Taylor/Rhodes sound is all over it.

    • @arfandroid6729
      @arfandroid6729 Před rokem +4

      Synth sound similarities from Steve Askew, yes. Probably...but similarities from the bass? Nope. Nick's bass was nowhere near John's. I'm a Duran Duran fan too...the fact that Nick Rhodes found this group was simply because they're different.
      CMIIW, Wally Badarou was also present right? He's also present in Level 42 album productions.

    • @Rondo2ooo
      @Rondo2ooo Před rokem +4

      Nick Beggs said once that they wanted to sound like Duran Duran, in terms of musical maturity. Their blueprint.

    • @cyclopath457
      @cyclopath457 Před rokem +1

      I did not know this.

    • @SpookyElectric319
      @SpookyElectric319 Před rokem +1

      Colin Thurston also produced Whits Feathers.

  • @sarahwelty9223
    @sarahwelty9223 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I remember hearing Too Shy for the first time back in 1983 when I was 9 years old and that opening bass line just absolutely blew me away and still does to this day! Fantastic musician Nick Beggs and he doesn't get the credit that he deserves. Thanks for sharing this with us and best wishes to you. Greetings from North Wales, UK ❤🙂👍

  • @rockojulian6281
    @rockojulian6281 Před rokem +53

    The other band of that era that deserves JUST as much praise is Level 42. Extremely underrated band with a badass bassist who also sang at the same time 🤯

    • @kevinstoneham1245
      @kevinstoneham1245 Před rokem +5

      That was Mark King wasn’t it.

    • @rockojulian6281
      @rockojulian6281 Před rokem +1

      @@kevinstoneham1245 yep!

    • @michaelwright3951
      @michaelwright3951 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Ahhhhhh yes...Something About You..,another killin' it bass line from the 80s. This was one of my favorite songs from that era. Used to think myself "dancing my azz off" to this song back then🤣😂Mark King was the f'ing man in those days. 👊🏾👍🏾

    • @wohltemper
      @wohltemper Před 11 měsíci +2

      Level 42 weren't underrated! They were the dog's bollocks at the time! Mark King was a household name.

    • @Veseere
      @Veseere Před 11 měsíci +1

      Worth noting that Nick Beggs sang while playing too and he was pretty bonkers at it. Huge Mark King fan too.

  • @nikthefix8918
    @nikthefix8918 Před rokem +15

    He's the nicest guy. I made a training video for a multitack recording device. He came and found me at an exhibition to thank me as he'd been using the hardware. I was blown away.
    There were big buggles but no troubles.

  • @Snydelash
    @Snydelash Před rokem +21

    "The dude was 21 years old!" Man, I felt that.

  • @andrenaetrammell2711
    @andrenaetrammell2711 Před rokem +11

    This is a very technical breakdown. The intricate details are caught by someone who must really love music!! I remember this tune kinda grabbed me and I didnt know why. Thanks to this video, dude!! You broke it down. Impressive bass composition and ARRANGING!!!

  • @mclare71
    @mclare71 Před rokem +28

    This was such a sublime video! Thank you for your passion and the breakdown of Kajagoogoo’s most iconic song. I was jaw dropped. We all love John Taylor but this was illuminating!

  • @C-5Arts
    @C-5Arts Před rokem +200

    The Too Shy baseline gives me chills every time I hear it! It’s phenomenal… AND he’s singing!! 😎👏👏👏

    • @Tubes12AX7k
      @Tubes12AX7k Před rokem +4

      I love those first two chords

    • @odannyboy3338
      @odannyboy3338 Před rokem +9

      Same here lol! I thought I was the only one! It immediately brings me back to Summers of’82 & ‘83 Ocean City MD with my high school sweetheart Becky! Almost makes me cry sometimes! lol OK, I’ve never admitted that to anyone before lol! Nick is badass!

    • @6581punk
      @6581punk Před rokem +9

      Limahl is singing. Beggs is doing some backing vocals. Later when they stupidly fired Limahl he took over as singer.

    • @dfreeman120
      @dfreeman120 Před rokem +2

      Wicked tune

    • @raeleneledbury7792
      @raeleneledbury7792 Před rokem +2

      One of my all time favorite songs...

  • @petrolo72
    @petrolo72 Před rokem +128

    💯 I always thought this was a catchy tune, but didn’t appreciate how dope this baseline was until I heard somebody else breaking it down and playing it like this. Respect

  • @orazor777
    @orazor777 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Totally agree "most unique and creative line you'll ever hear". The intro is a mental time machine - iconic. So thankful for the band, and the good memories they were the center of.

  • @AORCrazy
    @AORCrazy Před 7 měsíci +8

    One of the best bands ever, pity they didn’t continue recording together. Nick Beggs is astonishing!

  • @alemoffardin
    @alemoffardin Před rokem +61

    "Ooh to be Aah" from the same album has a killer bassline also, the dude has extreme good taste and chops. The band as a whole was fire too

  • @adam872
    @adam872 Před rokem +120

    I never appreciated how rad this bassline was until I heard some other people cover it. It's freaking awesome. Nick Beggs is also great in Steven Wilson's band and I thoroughly recommend checking that stuff out.

    • @jazzl7190
      @jazzl7190 Před rokem

      Thanks for the heads up! I thought this guy was a producer, but this band smokes.

    • @andrewkarp5067
      @andrewkarp5067 Před rokem

      Nick’s a great dude too. You can’t go wrong with anything he’s played on.

    • @Guppusmaximus
      @Guppusmaximus Před rokem +2

      I was looking for this comment. Mr. Beggs amazing Chapman Stick right into Guthrie Govan's guitar solo on 'Regret #9' is the stuff of legends.

    • @michaelcope856
      @michaelcope856 Před rokem

      Re: Steven Wilson, I was thinking the same thing.

    • @TheAgentAssassin
      @TheAgentAssassin Před rokem

      It didn't quite get it exactly but it's certainly nice. Here is Nick playing it live you can see some differences. Still a great review.
      czcams.com/video/xNVylTCe5MY/video.html

  • @gsxerwhite
    @gsxerwhite Před 6 měsíci +5

    You really do a good job of helping us actually understand what's going on when you play the bass line with the backing music. I can't think of any way to improve the way you're doing it. Thank you !

  • @DonHaka
    @DonHaka Před rokem +36

    Another really underrated bassplayer imo is Mick Karn. His way of playing fretless was really unique.

  • @AllanKoayTC
    @AllanKoayTC Před rokem +68

    i kept telling people how Kajagoogoo is a great band with great musicianship. but people always looked at me like i was stupid. Islands is an excellent album. the instrumental The Loop is an incredible track. such an underrated band, and Nick is criminally underrated.

    • @geoffpoole483
      @geoffpoole483 Před rokem +5

      I think they were promoted as a "boy band" or whatever the term was back then but I can remember Nick Beggs being interviewed in serious music magazines. Nick Kershaw was popular around the same time and he's a very proficient musician but the music press ignored that.

    • @AllanKoayTC
      @AllanKoayTC Před rokem +1

      @@geoffpoole483 yes, Kershaw, too. agreed.

    • @maximbalmos4908
      @maximbalmos4908 Před rokem +4

      I keep telling my friends that Kajagoogoo had an avant garde edge, but they insist that they are a generic sounding 80s pop band, and that I’m just trying to be unique. Too bad that they can’t see what we see.

    • @totaltwit
      @totaltwit Před rokem +4

      Image was the BIG thing at the time. It was crucial a band looked outrageously glamorous on stage. This was at the precise moment in time when it started to become too exaggerated to the point of ridiculous. It may have fed the pop-star mania but it also turned people off the musicianship. Nick's look was too much for many, I'm sure he wanted fame and fortune over being recognised as being a good musician. I did think at the time, this guy was talented.
      Howard Jones is a great musician as is Nick Kershaw.

  • @primalengland
    @primalengland Před rokem +63

    Nick Beggs is a phenomenal musician.

  • @georgecontreras2219
    @georgecontreras2219 Před rokem +12

    It's a masterpiece and a beautiful song, after so many years i searched it last night and found something I'd never heard before in any other song😎😍👍

  • @XCPRTP
    @XCPRTP Před rokem +2

    I fell in love with this song because of that bass intro. Thanks for covering it.

  • @Whiteshirtloosetie
    @Whiteshirtloosetie Před rokem +8

    Back in 1984 I was helping out with the Lighting on a large outside Concert here in the UK. Most of the audience had gone It was late at night and the Stage was being cleared and Lights always the last to start coming down. Then by complete surprise and he didn't have to, looking great wearing a really smart suit after wading through up to his knees in mud was Nick Beggs. That didn't bother him as he wanted to take the time to come, hang round for a chat and thank us all behind the scenes personally for all the hard we had all done. Really nice bloke. Just goes to show the power of "thank you" as although that was some decades ago, to this day that really meant a lot.

  • @tonym2541
    @tonym2541 Před rokem +141

    I'm consistently amazed at the topics and spotlights on this channel. It present an understanding of the bass I have yet to see elsewhere on CZcams. Paul just gets it. Well done once again.

    • @easy-to-read-name62
      @easy-to-read-name62 Před rokem +4

      I picked up bass for the first time a couple of years ago, after twenty of playing guitar and dabbling in keys, and this is probably the channel that most influenced me in realizing it is, hands down, the coolest instrument. The understated passion in every video is compelling.

    • @roiijamez33
      @roiijamez33 Před rokem +2

      Agreed!!

    • @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
      @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 Před rokem +2

      I started taking bass seriously in the early 90's and was lucky to know a bassist whose approach to music was as wide and deep as pdbass. As a rock bassist, that guy I met inspired me to go way beyond playing the root notes & fifths. And it's also good to know that pdbass' name is Paul. 😅

    • @jakelee1357
      @jakelee1357 Před rokem +2

      His name is Nick Beegs,…I’ve been studying him for years,…If you want to here some Madness,..get the album White Feathers,…only above average bass players can handle those songs!

  • @morskojvolk
    @morskojvolk Před rokem +6

    Fantastic breakdown. Nick Beggs is as impressive behind the scenes as on stage. Another favorite from the '80s is Paul Denman, a frustrated jazzman if ever there was one.

  • @JonnyDredd
    @JonnyDredd Před 15 dny +1

    Bro I love your presentations, your passion for bass is unmatched

  • @RonMarcus
    @RonMarcus Před rokem +7

    I just discovered the video for “Too Shy” on CZcams last week, and was blown away by what I saw going on on Nick Begg’s bass. One week later, I discover this video analyzing it. The happiest of coincidences! Love it. Thanks as always. I love your love of the instrument.

  • @calvinlawrence2184
    @calvinlawrence2184 Před rokem +45

    When i was a teenager and heard Kaja's White Feathers album, I almost got discouraged from playing bass cause Nick Beggs was so damn AMAZING, I thought I could never do that. John Taylor was my Hero but Nick was a god.

    • @arfandroid6729
      @arfandroid6729 Před rokem +2

      Bro, it was the contrary for me! Nick Beggs started me up on picking up the bass! He's got the smoothest basslines ever.
      (the guitar and piano was a bit confusing to me at the time. With all those chords and all...Lol)

  • @dking8471
    @dking8471 Před měsícem +1

    So glad I found your video. Just amazing talent, years and years of listening and I now have a new appreciation. THANK YOU

  • @jimmcclain4787
    @jimmcclain4787 Před 7 měsíci +1

    No need to remember Nick, you were never forgotten! You are very much alive and here in our hearts, souls and ears! Another amazing video, thank you!

  • @scotabot7826
    @scotabot7826 Před rokem +34

    Awesome funky tune from the wonderful 1980's. So glad I was there. Even the rockers loved this tune. A great song is a great song, no matter the genre!

    • @JoseAlvarez-tb8gj
      @JoseAlvarez-tb8gj Před 2 měsíci

      The interlude would’ve sounded better if he played a double octave.

  • @MM33633
    @MM33633 Před rokem +221

    Nick Beggs from Kajagoogoo and Mick Karn from Japan were two of the best bass players I ever heard together with Wooten, Joco, Flea or Squire. All amazing bass players.

    • @carriersignal
      @carriersignal Před rokem +25

      Everyone you listed is great, but Mick Karn has always stood apart from many other bassist. No one sounded like him before, during or really after. His sound and technique was in my opinion truly unique and instantly recognizable.

    • @justinebourke9449
      @justinebourke9449 Před rokem +4

      @@carriersignal Bang on!
      My bass idol...

    • @s.k.9401
      @s.k.9401 Před rokem +6

      and John Taylor

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive Před rokem +11

      Karn - greatest pop bassist of all time.

    • @christophermartin3441
      @christophermartin3441 Před rokem +1

      Check out Bassist John Ferrara from Consider The Source, and more recently doing some solo releases and side projects too.

  • @Jaguarwhisperer
    @Jaguarwhisperer Před 11 měsíci +3

    I saw Nick playing with Howard Jones earlier this year (2023), in the UK. Yes ,he is THE BEST bassist I’ve ever seen live. He is incredible.

  • @tomnelson7898
    @tomnelson7898 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Great job with the video. Not long at all. Perfect. Great analysis and isolating bass parts. As a classic rock and blues musician,I always wondered why I liked this song when it came out. And you’ve shown me why.it’s the bass. Thanks and keep up the good work.

  • @uneedtherapy42
    @uneedtherapy42 Před rokem +98

    Literally listen to this jam daily on Spotify. 80s had some phenomenal music…. ABC, Howard Jones, Depeche Mode, New Order…. To me this bands stand up there with Zeppelin and such it’s just a different vibe

    • @audibletapehiss3764
      @audibletapehiss3764 Před rokem +1

      Did you catch Nick playing with John Paul Jones a while back? That was cool.

    • @roiijamez33
      @roiijamez33 Před rokem +1

      80's reigns supreme!!

    • @Rib13Bass
      @Rib13Bass Před rokem +5

      ABC "Lexicon Of Love" is a phenomenal album with some incredible basslines by Mark Lickley (fretted) and Brad Lang (fretless),,,,its a near perfect pop album - like a dance-pop version of ELO's "Eldorado" lol

    • @alexanderSydneyOz
      @alexanderSydneyOz Před rokem +1

      @@Rib13Bass I don't often find myself saying this, but I completely agree. It was a masterpiece of music and music production, not least due to the efforts of producer / engineer extraordinaire, Trevor Horn.

    • @baabaabaa2293
      @baabaabaa2293 Před rokem +5

      Joy Div/New Order, some Depeche Mode (personal Jesus & l feel you are great)..
      But Kaja Gugu?
      The joke use to be..
      If U wore jeans that are so tight.. itd KajaGugus
      I'd understand Killing Joke, Cave etc.. but not the sugar coated droll shite dished out weekly.

  • @joethepianoman
    @joethepianoman Před rokem +7

    Usually, when I watch this kind of video, they take 20 minutes to break down the song. This is short, sweet, and to the point. I like it

  • @supergaazz913
    @supergaazz913 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I must say, your CZcams video is really great. I learned something new and to my surprise I never noticed how absolutely great this bassline is. Certainly because I was one-sides/prepossessed as I considered the band to be very shallow and thus forgot to listen to the details. Absolutely great bass playing and creation. I’m impressed.

  • @Elwrt455
    @Elwrt455 Před 11 měsíci +4

    That interlude with Begga and Limahl harmonizing diminutive to a crescendo is heavenly! The classic "Too Shy" is brilliant (I love "Hang On Now Too" the rest of the LP filler songs)!

  • @M2Mil7er
    @M2Mil7er Před rokem +58

    your hunger, and passion for all things bass, throughout multiple genres, and eras is clear to see, and you sharing that with us is a gift I'm most grateful for. Cheers from the UK!

    • @Liquid_Alchemy
      @Liquid_Alchemy Před rokem

      I couldn't have said it better mate. Cheers from the States! Happy New Year.

    • @markusantonio4866
      @markusantonio4866 Před rokem

      Bass player lead singer from Level 42 is great. I’m sorry I forgot his name.

    • @Liquid_Alchemy
      @Liquid_Alchemy Před rokem

      @@markusantonio4866 Mark King

  • @brianschoner3350
    @brianschoner3350 Před rokem +17

    I first became aware of Nick Beggs when I heard him on Steven Wilson's solo work (the song "Luminol" is a spectacular example). I looked him up and was like, "Wait, the guy from Kajagoogoo?" I went back and listened to "Too Shy" and only then realized how incredible this bass line is. Thanks for putting some focus on it!

  • @thorenjohn
    @thorenjohn Před 5 měsíci +3

    I love this analysis - really makes me appreciate the artistry of Nick Beggs. Thank you!

  • @missvida6251
    @missvida6251 Před rokem +3

    Whew! That bass line is epic! Probably one of the sexiest basslines ever!

  • @Nchubbz
    @Nchubbz Před rokem +33

    Saw him play with Steve Hackett in the UK. Fantastic musician and fit in perfectly, never overplaying or overstepping his mark in the band but still being a stand out performer amongst the talent on stage.

    • @attepotterrmmefiremerkersm68
      @attepotterrmmefiremerkersm68 Před rokem +1

      I also saw him on tour with the Steve Hackett band in Norway a few years ago. My friend spent the first half of the concert asking me who the leggy blonde with black leather skirt and bass guitar was. (We had seats a good distance from the stage - I'll give him that 🤣 ) I held him in suspense until he googled the band members ... But it was a great gig, and I have listened to quite a lot of Nick's solo work after that. A really brilliant musician, and as you say; his great performance suited the old Genesis classics as well as Steve's solo material without being "flashy" and trying to show off in any way. A concert to remember!

    • @JohnnyTronny19841
      @JohnnyTronny19841 Před rokem +3

      The way he sits at the bass pedals playing them with his fists during Shadow of the Hierophant was so damn cool

    • @attepotterrmmefiremerkersm68
      @attepotterrmmefiremerkersm68 Před rokem +1

      @@JohnnyTronny19841 I don't think he used that trick on the gig I saw - that must have been on an earlier tour ... But I've seen it later on video and have to agree it looks pretty cool (and a bit "flashy" as well, I have to admit .. 😅)

    • @JohnnyTronny19841
      @JohnnyTronny19841 Před rokem

      @@attepotterrmmefiremerkersm68 yeah! To me it just added to the dramatic feeling of that track - felt like it went along with how I feel about the track...ominous, heavy, foreboding, majestic, etc

  • @thetinoshow6719
    @thetinoshow6719 Před rokem +50

    As a 56 year old lifelong Bassist this song is one of the reasons that made me pick up the instrument. Always thought it was the coolest and still listen to this song constantly. Huge influence. I really enjoyed the breakdown here.

    • @flynod
      @flynod Před rokem

      same here, 52yo and still rocking with a 5 strings! Thanks to Nick Beggs, among others (John Taylor but also Geddy Lee or Johnny Myung...) Cheers from a swiss bass guy

    • @godfreymccammon4531
      @godfreymccammon4531 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Ok...we all know that white boys can't jump.
      However, white boys can thump the crap out of a bass line if your name is Nick Beggs. I'm 68 years old, Black and I've been playing bass with a pick and my thumb for 53 years. After hearing "Too Shy" back in the day, the only thing I could pick was my ass and thumb my nose to people.....
      ....."Badass Beggs"!!!

    • @goofycker
      @goofycker Před 10 měsíci

      a word that screams 80s? I say: gay-ass-sex

  • @philipmulville8218
    @philipmulville8218 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I’m delighted you highlighted this. The bass playing on Too shy is some of the best I’ve ever heard. A standout 80’s track.

  • @musiclistener-dr3wo
    @musiclistener-dr3wo Před 6 měsíci +3

    Very underrated song! amazing bass playing! thank you for breaking this bass line down!👍🏻😎

  • @RARDingo
    @RARDingo Před rokem +42

    I think Nick Beggs is one of the most underated bass players of his time. It's amazing that 40 years after his biggest hit that his spectacular talent is finally getting recognised by other musos.

    • @geoffpoole483
      @geoffpoole483 Před rokem +1

      He was playing in the type of band whose musical abilities were often overlooked. He's also pretty good at playing the Chapman Stick.

    • @jumpinjojo
      @jumpinjojo Před rokem

      He’s rated exactly where he belongs.

    • @RARDingo
      @RARDingo Před rokem

      @@jumpinjojo 100 times better musician than you, that's for sure!

    • @jumpinjojo
      @jumpinjojo Před rokem

      @@RARDingo Oh course. I’m not a bass player. 🤣🤣

  • @thudor1
    @thudor1 Před rokem +8

    Nick Beggs had his bass strapped higher than anyone back in the day for slapping and pinch-plucking. "Too Shy" really does have a killer bass line! It's been years since I heard it.

  • @DocBree13
    @DocBree13 Před rokem +1

    I can’t tell you how much I loved Too Shy in HS. I had no idea how much musicality went into making this pop song; I seriously underestimated the talent of my musical idols in the 70s & 80s, as I’ve learned by watching this channel. Thank you for reminding me of so many treasures from my past, and increasing my appreciation for their bassists.

  • @catherinewilliams9680
    @catherinewilliams9680 Před 7 měsíci +2

    As a huge fan of Kaja/Kajagoogoo, I'm thrilled to see Nick, who was the creative force behind the band, get some love.

  • @paulhetheringtonvoice-over

    I was a teenager of the 80s who started playing then, and could never figure out how he played that intro. The hammer-on idea never occurred to me because I thought it was in Bb. Thank you so much for that.

  • @JMoore68
    @JMoore68 Před rokem +9

    As a 80's metal guitarist in his 50's I can confirm that this is a SICK bassline. SICK!

  • @bakerteacher2905
    @bakerteacher2905 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Too Shy is still on my ultimate play list!!! And Nick, I stop whatever I'm doing when you play..... Thank you!

  • @adisolar
    @adisolar Před rokem

    This is one of the best videos I have seen recently. Thanks so much for recovering this lost memory of mine! And the best part - you played it and I really fully got the greatness of it for the first time. You present really well man. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • @carlnewman5448
    @carlnewman5448 Před rokem +68

    Always admired Nick Begg’s bass playing. This track was so cool and catchy. Beautifully explained and demonstrated as usual Paul. The 80’s produced some great bands. Would love you to feature Mick Karn from Japan. As with so many of these gifted bass players, Jaco was such a huge influence ❤

    • @matthew4694
      @matthew4694 Před rokem +14

      Agreed! Mick Karn was a beast!

    • @davidevans6514
      @davidevans6514 Před rokem +8

      Mick Karn was amazing. The stuff he did with David Torn was awesome. However, I'm pretty sure I read that Karn didn't even know who Pastorius was until after Japan had become well known. I think he has acknowledged Percy Jones as an influence.

    • @carlnewman5448
      @carlnewman5448 Před rokem +1

      @@davidevans6514 He really was a great player and this can often be the case, not knowing musicians like Jaco, until later. Just depends on your musical exposure. I was into everything, it helped having an older brother who turned me onto all the great bands and musicians. I saw Japan live twice, fantastic. Percy Jones is a tremendous player.

    • @carlnewman5448
      @carlnewman5448 Před rokem +1

      @@matthew4694 without doubt. He had the cool movements on stage too. I wonder if that was anything to do with Jaco’s cool swagger and dance style.

    • @JasmineSurrealVideos
      @JasmineSurrealVideos Před rokem +4

      Mick Karn was exemplary, such an understated man and gifted as a sculptor too. I really like his work with Pete Murphy in Dalis Car, for me even better than Japan.

  • @dos_mas_805
    @dos_mas_805 Před rokem +35

    Wow, this was totally unexpected, but a well deserved feature. Thank you for reminding me of this classic 80's tune and highlighting the brilliant musicianship of the bassline. Definitely going to the shed with this one, much love and respect from the Central Coast of California!

    • @leonidasrosales9315
      @leonidasrosales9315 Před rokem +1

      Òrale two more !, just make’m Bohemia or Pacifico or even betta’ , 805s !, not piss H2O corona!….😂
      stay dry , but not thirsty ma’frend !
      greetings from san miguel .

    • @dos_mas_805
      @dos_mas_805 Před rokem

      @@leonidasrosales9315 salud!

  • @jamesburge1983
    @jamesburge1983 Před 14 dny +1

    Just now saw this. Gotta admit I did not think about what Nick Beggs was doing, not just with this song but his entire career!. Phenomenal talent. My bad, his work is incredible.

  • @keithpratt1849
    @keithpratt1849 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I am a drummer. So, I absolutely love the bass guitar. This is a really impressive, well down video. Of a very exceptional, impressive talent. His bass playing is badass. Thank you.

  • @vixapphire
    @vixapphire Před rokem +26

    You forgot that a drummer and Nick Beggs on Chapman were the ensemble chosen by none of than the most legendary JOHN PAUL JONES of Led Zeppelin for his "Zooma" solo album world tour. Saw that tour 4 times in 3 cities: IT WAS THE STUFF OF LEGEND! Those two legends together were almost universe-collapsing in terms of gravity of the moment!

    • @mtc3000
      @mtc3000 Před rokem +2

      Saw them in NYC opening for King Crimson

    • @MikeA0110
      @MikeA0110 Před rokem

      @Mark T Collins that was the :thunder thief" tour

    • @MikeA0110
      @MikeA0110 Před rokem

      I recorded the boston show and shared it everywhere on all the cdr trading sites.

  • @crazykong5246
    @crazykong5246 Před rokem +9

    That opening line has lived in my head for 35 years. Brilliant.

  • @Bladerunner4924764
    @Bladerunner4924764 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I've always been a bass guy and this one definitely caught my attention.

  • @mercurysteve1
    @mercurysteve1 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Great choice of video subject, I've always thought he never got the broader attention he deserves. Smooth and tasteful to the max!

  • @srtcsb
    @srtcsb Před rokem +25

    You've done it again Paul. I've now been enlightened about an older song, but this time it's one that I've actually hated all these years. I've gotta go back and listen to 'Too Shy', only with this new information in mind. Thanks for a great video. 😎

  • @kisslena
    @kisslena Před rokem +7

    ‘Too Shy’ bassline was FUNKY!🔥💛🎶

  • @hallman321
    @hallman321 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Damn, you nailed the description. So complex yet flows like butter.

  • @KYoss68
    @KYoss68 Před rokem +1

    Thank you! I knew I was right about this song! My friends are always "why do you like that old song so much" And I'm like; the _bass, man_ the *BAAASSSSSS*

  • @1980Triumph
    @1980Triumph Před rokem +118

    British musicians from the 80's had learned a lot from soul records of the 60's and 70's and it showed in their music. Brit pop was far funkier than US pop of the 80's for that reason. Beggs is fantastic and he kills it on this song, another great track is Ooh To Be Ah, the funk bass on that is incredible too.

    • @beejj6190
      @beejj6190 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Great point. 2.10 short bass breakdown - 'Don't look any further' - Greg Edwards ; )

    • @kehindea
      @kehindea Před 11 měsíci +2

      Spot on and this was due to the melting pot of the big cities. Can't fault Kajagoogoo at al. The bridge bass line and the chords mmmmm!

    • @Abolas452
      @Abolas452 Před 10 měsíci

      Old comment but to call Brit pop funkier than the US at any point in history is laughable. British waves (of many genres) owe *everything* to the US (specifically Black Americans). Funk, Disco, Jazz, RnB, House, Blues, Rock and Roll would not exist in the world without the US.

    • @plane_guy6051
      @plane_guy6051 Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@Abolas452 -- Dude, you missed the guys point. He said rightfully so that Brit pop was more funkier in the 80's than US pop, and said they owed it to the soul records which of course came from the US.

    • @geraldfriend256
      @geraldfriend256 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Abolas452 They are masters at selling Americana music back to Americans. British blues invasion case and point. Who listens to that anymore?

  • @chadsolberg8580
    @chadsolberg8580 Před rokem +19

    What a great analysis on so many levels. Too Shy really shaped my musical taste back in '83 - 40 years ago and just light years ahead of what kids have today. I laughed out LOUD when you gave Limahl the shout-out.

  • @erikedlefsen3684
    @erikedlefsen3684 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Brother, this is a beautifully done video! Thank you so very much! Nick Beggs, wow!

  • @seanemmettfullerton
    @seanemmettfullerton Před 11 měsíci +3

    Love your good energy, my man! Thank you !!
    for encouraging us all to stretch those boundaries :)

  • @Steely_Fran
    @Steely_Fran Před rokem +57

    There were some 80s pop songs with killer bass lines. "Too Shy" is one of my favorites. Some other great examples are:
    Duran Duran - Rio
    Paul Young - Come Back and Stay
    Level 42 - Something About You
    The Waitresses - Christmas Wrapping

    • @judgedredd3568
      @judgedredd3568 Před rokem +6

      Intro to Don't look Down Girl....Go West
      Pino Palladino

    • @vixapphire
      @vixapphire Před rokem +6

      The Fixx - One Thing Leads to Another (and just about everything else they've done) - why isn't their bassist a household name???

    • @judgedredd3568
      @judgedredd3568 Před rokem +1

      @@vixapphire
      Wow....I totally forgot about the fixx
      I was in a band in Ireland in the 80s...
      My bass player was Crazy about them
      Duran and Japan too

    • @kevgamble
      @kevgamble Před rokem +1

      @@vixapphire One of my all-time fave bass riffs for sure. Like this one from Beggs, it sounds like it comes from some other reality.

    • @kevgamble
      @kevgamble Před rokem +2

      @@judgedredd3568 Really underrated album, that one - I love it. Palladino did great work on it.

  • @jennytaylor3324
    @jennytaylor3324 Před rokem +27

    This was illuminating. Thank you! It was Limahl who stole my 8 year old heart way back then, but I loved that song, and have never ceased to re-visit it. Can't believe 2023 is the 40th anniversary of its release. It was, as you say, a strange fusion of synth and funky jazz. I hear this a lot on other tracks from the same years. Tears For Fears' 'Change' (1983?) has a comparable bassline that drives the song's energy in the middle 8. Also, Duran Duran's 'Rio'. I love that you give Kajagoogoo worthy praise, as people tend to disregard them a bit in retrospect. Howard Jones is another of my '80s faves, though I didn't discover him properly until i grew up. All the best from England.

    • @bigmacntings7451
      @bigmacntings7451 Před rokem +2

      UK was very blessed to have such amazing talent in that era.Too many to mention.
      Kajagoogoo were quite teeny/poppy at the time but you couldn't help notice nicks funky bass style.
      tears for fears were uttely jaw droppingly amazing,and gary numan/depeche mode/new order were really pioneering on the electronic scenet at the time

  • @16davelle
    @16davelle Před 6 měsíci +1

    Man you are a brilliant musical story teller, it's always a pleasure to listen to you break things down.Keep up the great work!!!!!!

  • @HomespunEffects
    @HomespunEffects Před 11 měsíci +1

    I was a hard-nosed metal head back then and I missed all this great music. I’m basically just discovering 80s pop.

  • @SophonsCookieCreations
    @SophonsCookieCreations Před rokem +27

    OMG SIR, you are the best music explainer. LOVED that you dissected, deconstructed & gave visuals on the keyboard!!! Your style of teaching & interpretation is clear, comprehensive and concise to those of us that play by ear. Best music teacher award. 🏆🎸🎹. You're damn right I subscribed. ⚡☝🏼

  • @EM-km8em
    @EM-km8em Před rokem +44

    When i first heard this song it sounded like it really was out of this planet. No way they could create this in todays mediocre music industry.
    I used to play this song when i used to DJ l, and people would enter a state of sophisticated trance to this tune.
    This is truly a sophisticated, ahead of its time, talented gem.
    Thank you for giving credit to it.

    • @johnjones6601
      @johnjones6601 Před rokem +2

      Spot on. In my naivety, I assumed it was programmed, but yes, can you imagine this type of bass line in any current pop song? The 80's rule!😂

  • @OneEyeGoating
    @OneEyeGoating Před 5 měsíci +1

    I know absolutely nothing about playing music, but your explanation in this video was super entertaining!

  • @grahamgray2421
    @grahamgray2421 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Nick Beggs is a high class bass player for sure! Plays brilliantly live ,would fit in to any band with ease!!!