BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER - Initial Timeline Analysis

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  • čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
  • Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is here and I'm excited to discuss its timeline placement in the MCU. While its difficult to do this without being able to go frame by frame throughout Wakanda Forever, this video is all about my preliminary thoughts on the timeline. If you're interested in my future timeline video where I'll go much more in depth, please like this video and subscribe!
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  • @Geekritique
    @Geekritique  Před rokem +54

    Correction: at 2:43 I claim Thanos attacked in 2016. This is incorrect. I meant to say 2018. Apologies for the confusion.

  • @-Titan29-
    @-Titan29- Před rokem +33

    Just going to throw out there that we know that Wakanda Forever and Quantumania are extremely close to each other, because of Scott Lang's book tour being mentioned in the news ticker in Wakanda Forever. In the Quantumania trailer, Scott Lang's book tour is still going on. In the trailer, someone mistakes Ant-Man for Spider-Man. What's important is that he actually thanks him. Any knowledge of Spider-Man doing things worth being thanked for if this was at the very beginning of 2025 would have been many months ago. Some knowledge of Spider-Man getting back into hero-ing means that time has to have passed, considering that those two characters are on opposite sides of the country. Now speaking of Spider-Man, there is a whole montage of dead avengers that doesn't include T'Challa in Far From Home, meaning by June of 2024, T'Challa has not died yet.

    • @-Titan29-
      @-Titan29- Před rokem +8

      Going further with connections to other movies and shows, Ms. Marvel had an AvengerCon which had a tribute to Iron Man and Black Widow, but not Black Panther, though you could chalk this up to this wall specifically being about the heroes who died during Endgame. It does seem weird that there wouldn't be *any* references to Black Panther other than some costumes but I also don't think that Wakanda Forever is late 2026... though I guess there's no reason why it couldn't be.

    • @-Titan29-
      @-Titan29- Před rokem +5

      Ms. Marvel also had a reference to Scott Lang's podcast, saying how that is how she got info on the things the avengers have been through, so it seems doubtful the memoir has been released yet. If this is true then that places Black Panther and Wakanda Forever after Ms. Marvel. They seem to have similar warmer weather happening so Spring 2026 would probably be the best place to put those two.

    • @-Titan29-
      @-Titan29- Před rokem +4

      This placement is actually backed up by the fact that (if I remember correctly) Riri Williams spent several months making the vibranium detector component for a college assignment, meaning that if we assume those several months were toward the beginning of the school year and then giving several more months to have it so Riri somehow has no idea why the princess of Wakanda is at her door when she literally built a vibranium detector, and that fits with around a Spring timeframe

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +20

      The footage was specifically for Avengers or for those that died in the battle, which he didn’t really fit into any of those roles. Far From Home can’t be used to gauge his death, it was made before Boseman died.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +13

      As for the Avengercon memorial, we see the date of October 2023, so that was specific for the events in Endgame.

  • @_blakey.boo_
    @_blakey.boo_ Před rokem +9

    Nothing better then seeing a Marvel movie and then getting the Geekritique video about it the next day 😎

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      Haha, there’s nothing quite like it!

  • @CaptHayfever
    @CaptHayfever Před rokem +18

    I didn't consider the young prince knowing his father so well; that's a great point.
    Re: Cambridge -- I don't know much about MIT's programs, but I looked up their academic calendar, & they do run a standard collegiate early-September to mid-May school year, with a much shorter summer semester. I doubt the summer would see the campus as crowded (especially not the dorms!) or Riri's side-hustle as busy as is shown in the film.

  • @ThoughtTie24110
    @ThoughtTie24110 Před rokem +20

    The 'six years' after Nakia left could easily be six years roughly, not exactly six years

  • @iamgroot3391
    @iamgroot3391 Před rokem +3

    Disney Plus agrees with you! I’m starting to think they might watch your videos, because you’re the only one who guessed spring of 2025, most guessed fall

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      I suspect somebody over there must watch them 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @theorycraftingmachine2876

    Nate Moore said this about Black Panther Wakanda Forever, quote, "I think it probably happens potentially concurrent with Thor Love and Thunder. New Asgard does exist in our universe, for instance, or in our film. And almost concurrent with Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania, which is coming out in February." So that means Black Panther Wakanda Forever and Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania happen in May of 2024, right before Moon Knight! Also The Marvels synopsis is, quote, "Carol Danvers aka Captain Marvel has reclaimed her identity from the tyrannical Kree and taken revenge on the Supreme Intelligence. But unintended consequences see Carol shouldering the burden of a destabilized universe. When her duties send her to an anomalous wormhole linked to a Kree revolutionary, her powers become entangled with that of Jersey City super-fan, Kamala Khan aka Ms. Marvel, and Carol's estranged niece Captain Monica Rambeau. Together, this unlikely trio must team-up and learn to work in concert to save the universe as 'The Marvels'." That means The Marvels happens in September 2025!

  • @thequiet5727
    @thequiet5727 Před rokem +2

    This video is Exactly what I needed rn...Return of the king .

  • @VactorVerse
    @VactorVerse Před rokem

    Yes! I was waiting for this one! :D

  • @sethv5273
    @sethv5273 Před rokem

    since the prince has fond memories of his father we know that when tchalla came back he had to have been around for more than 9 months right since the child would have needed to have been born so he was alive around at least a year after everyone came back

  • @Blazecap
    @Blazecap Před rokem +1

    Thanks can’t wait for the official timeline video.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      I appreciate it, hope you liked this one!

  • @bananaking664
    @bananaking664 Před rokem

    was waiting for this

  • @Protocol36
    @Protocol36 Před rokem +3

    Amazing work my bro and I’m glad to hear you also enjoyed the film! I think middle of 2025 overall makes the most sense and just thinking about T’Challa spending a few months with his son really gets me emotionally but I’m so glad his legacy got to continue in the MCU

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      I know. The world was seriously robbed of Chadwick, but I hope his son got a little bit of time with T’Challa before his in-universe death. 😞

    • @Protocol36
      @Protocol36 Před rokem +1

      @@Geekritique Couldn't agree more and same 😔🙏🏾

  • @josinfleurs
    @josinfleurs Před rokem

    Amazing!

  • @SONICgokuverine
    @SONICgokuverine Před rokem +2

    I interpreted it as taking place one year after Endgame (give or take a couple months), with T’Challa’s death being a complication brought on from being snapped and then returning. I assumed his son was conceived pre-snap, but perhaps not born until after. I don’t believe it’d be entirely unfounded for Nakia and T’Challa to consummate their love prior to a potentially world-ending battle.
    I look forward to seeing what your research reveals when you can really sink your teeth into this one.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      Yeah there’s definitely wiggle room with his son’s birth. I’ll be diving into that for sure.

  • @christaylor6574
    @christaylor6574 Před rokem

    Amazing work as always.
    One quick comment - on your timeline journal I think you might have a typo - you write:
    'Nakia has been trying to contact Nakia for some time, but Shuri continues to ignore her calls.'

  • @alchemypotato
    @alchemypotato Před rokem +1

    I usually try to pay attention to date type stuff while I'm watching these but man this movie is far too much of an overwhelming (in a good way) experience for my brain to even try to process that.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      This film was suuuper overwhelming. I totally hear you.

  • @masonyoung7834
    @masonyoung7834 Před rokem +2

    My guess is the kid was conceived a little before infinity war but born during the blip near 2019

  • @dianceperez8540
    @dianceperez8540 Před rokem

    @Geekritque when will you are going to see the movie again??? can I’m really eager to know when this shit is placed within the timeline cause this movie is just glorious to me

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      I’ve seen it twice already. I won’t be making another timeline breakdown on this until it’s on Disney+.

  • @Arkham_editzs
    @Arkham_editzs Před rokem

    Hi, I'm a big fan of your work. I have a question.
    Can you do a same video like this but with phase 5?
    Do you have to watch phase 5 or can you do it just jet?
    Because I also want the best phase 5 time-line in MCU. Does it work?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      Hi Moon Knight. I’d love to make a timeline for Phase 5, but I haven’t seen it yet. I’ll be updating our timeline with new videos for each Phase 5 title.

  • @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
    @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 Před rokem

    Do you know when you’ll be working on the new eternals one ?

  • @Gallifrey103
    @Gallifrey103 Před rokem +2

    You often find yourself at odds with the Marvel Cinematic Universe Wiki, so I decided to compare their dating with yours since I’m always eager to get your opinion.
    It states Nakia leaves Wakanda before the Snap, though this directly contradicts dialogue, so I’ll write that off as a simple error. It also places T’Challa II’s birthyear as 2017 - 2018, which could be consistent with your placement of their leaving Wakanda in spring 2019, when he was one to two years old. If their dating is correct, then, without more specific information, I’d place it in 2017 because that allows more time for the T’Challas to have bonded.
    The Wakandan celebrations after the Blip are dated as 28th October 2023, with T’Challa’s death being late 2023 - 2024, five to seven years after T’Challa II’s birth. This accommodates your placement of T’Challa’s death being after October 2023.
    The rest of the film the wiki places in September 2025, after She-Hulk: Attorney at Law, rather than spring 2025 before it.
    So what do you think?
    The thing I find most interesting about your timeline videos is that they’re one of multiple interpretations of MCU chronology, so I always enjoy comparing it with other versions.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +3

      That's interesting. Knowing the wiki, they likely chose to place the child's birth pre-snap because of the age of the actor. I feel that, if he was born before the Snap, there'd be no reason to keep the secret from Shuri. And thus I deduct that he was born during the 5 year blip, as Shuri was also notably missing for 5 years.

    • @thomasbacon8564
      @thomasbacon8564 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique I also think Nakia, who was so close to the rest of the family, would have found it much harder to conceal actually giving birth. I think Nakia must have left Wakanda before the pregnancy was too far through.

    • @gbozzi05_
      @gbozzi05_ Před rokem

      Where can i see the timeline placement for Wakanda Forever in the Wiki?

  • @theverywell-informedfanboy6068

    Patiently waiting for your actual timeline breakdown...

  • @Ereheru
    @Ereheru Před rokem

    Great video, can't wait until you can get a digital copy to do your thing and officially place the movie on the timeline.

  • @duncanharris7976
    @duncanharris7976 Před rokem +1

    I also have the inclination to place it in 2025 but the problem with this placement is Nakia leaving in Spring 2019. No one knew she was pregnant, meaning she had to have left before she started showing. No more than a few months after T'Challa disappeared, if we assume the child was conceived RIGHT before the blip at the very latest.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      You can hide a pregnancy to some degree, it’s not the most impossible thing to do. That said, I suspect the 6 years line correlates to the son’s age.

    • @duncanharris7976
      @duncanharris7976 Před rokem +3

      @@Geekritique Exactly, I agree. And he HAD to have been conceived in Spring 2018, May at the very latest, before T’Challa blipped. Which means Nakia had to have given birth no later than February 2019. And I think it’s clear her leaving coincides with her son’s birth because of his age, so the six years can’t start any later than February 2019

  • @medleystudios72
    @medleystudios72 Před rokem

    Bummer. I was thinking this was the video covering the entirety of BPWF including the 16th century stuff. I saw it posted before I got to see the movie (which was about 12 hours ago) and was excited to see this. Guess I just have to put a pin in it for a little longer. lol

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      I need a digital copy for all that my dude. Gotta wait, sorry.

  • @alexalker
    @alexalker Před rokem

    I heard that the events of "Panther" take place in parallel with "Ant-Man 3". And you can actually see a reference to this in the movie: the news line states that "Scott Lang continues tour in support of autobiography..." I think a more accurate timeline will be known when Quantum Mania comes out.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      This is a possibility. The news that it occurs alongside Quantumania comes from Nate Moore, who admitted he didn’t know much about the timeline in the sentence just before.

  • @KostisPat257
    @KostisPat257 Před rokem +1

    Agreed with everything here, this is my timeline placement as well for exactly the same reasons. Also, don't forget that Ayo showed up in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and Bucky didn't give her condolences for the loss of her king, so T'Challa died must have died after ~May 2024. My guess is June 2024 was the death of T'Challa and this movie takes place in June 2025, around the same time as She-Hulk.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      I don’t think we can use a show that was filmed before Boseman’s death as an indicator for when T’Challa dies in this film.

    • @KostisPat257
      @KostisPat257 Před rokem +3

      @@Geekritique I am sure they would have taken it in consideration to create the timeline placement of the movie.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      Knowing Marvel’s track record with that… HIGHLY doubt it haha.

  • @tak3000
    @tak3000 Před rokem +4

    Awesome analysis. I might have missed it but I was thinking T’Challa’s son wasn’t familiar with him. He looked about six years old to me but definitely could be wrong. In my head T’challa came back from the blip (maybe he already had the illness) and died shortly after the final battle with thanos.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +3

      That’s a possibility 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @tak3000
      @tak3000 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique haha thanks. Look forward to your deep dive into it.

  • @AbitofEverything4U
    @AbitofEverything4U Před rokem

    Great video! I found this movie to be the most difficult in all of Phase 4 to place in the timeline. The years given just don't match up well with what characters seem to be saying actually happened. It really sounds like Nakia left Wakanda very soon after the snap as she said she "had to step away". However, what if everyone (including Okoye) thought she "left without a word" but instead Nakia went somewhere private in Wakanda that only Ramonda knew about and she birthed T'Challa Jr. secretly.
    This would allow Ramonda to have met T'Challa Jr. which it seems happened. Then, at really any point Nakia could leave Wakanda, but again leave secretly, and thus whatever point this is would be the point where Ramonda is saying "six years since you left us". This gives all kinds of wiggle room for where to place Wakanda Forever in the timeline, based on when Nakia leaves Ramonda.
    I personally think Wakanda Forever is later in 2025 to get it closer to when I suspect Quantumania comes out. If I recall correctly, it was snowing outside Val's house (correct me if I have that wrong), so an October or November timeframe would work. So, let me throw out this possible sequence and tell me what you think:
    1. Baby is conceived right before Infinity War (Apr, 2018)
    2. T'Challa is snapped (May, 2018)
    3. Nakia "leaves" as far as everyone but Ramonda knows, and hides in secret in Wakanda (June, 2018)
    4. Nakia secretly gives birth to T'Challa Jr. in Wakanda (Jan, 2019)
    5. Nakia secretly raises T'Challa Jr. until he is old enough that she feels she can head to Haiti, having allowed Ramonda time with him up to this point (Nov, 2019)
    6. Nakia doesn't see Ramonda again (Nov, 2019)
    7. T'Challa returns from the blip (Oct, 2023)
    8. T'Challa gets to secretly visit his child in Haitioff and on (Oct, 2023 - Nov, 2024)
    9. T'Challa is king when the Dora Milaje retrieve Zemo (June, 2024)
    10. T'Challa dies from mysterious illness (Nov, 2024)
    11. Ramonda sees Nakia for the first time in 6 years and 1 year after T'Challa's death (Nov, 2025)
    The key being that Ramonda is the one using the 6 year time difference, so perhaps it has been 6 years since Nakia left Ramonda and Ramonda says "us" to mean Wakanda in general. Thoughts?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      Thanks man, good breakdown of events. I mostly agree, though I personally don't see a November timeframe working necessarily. Definitely no autumn foliage in Mass or Virginia, and no snow.
      I do agree that Nakia likely didn't leave Wakanda until around the time of her giving birth. Toussaint knew who Ramonda was, and that she would want to see "the headmistress," so I believe Ramonda likely joined T'Challa at some point to visit the boy.
      As for the 6 years line, I didn't mention it in the video as I wanted to expand on it more in the future, but its rather specific and fairly inorganic to everyday conversation. Most people wouldn't outright remember something like 6 years since someone left... unless there was an occasion to mark the event, like the birth of a grandchild whose age she'd likely be keenly conscious of.
      I can't say whether or not the Quantumania easter egg was anything more than an easter egg, but it's something to keep track of. I don't view the lack of discussion about T'Challa's mortality in TFatWS as any evidence he was alive or dead at the time, and I don't think it's fair to give that scene as much weight as some give it. Boseman died after that was written and filmed.
      As for the "us," yeah I agree. It's like the royal "we," when monarchs refer to themselves in the plural.

    • @AbitofEverything4U
      @AbitofEverything4U Před rokem

      @@Geekritique Right...the nice thing about this order is it allows maximum flexibility for the ultimate placement of the movie. Basically Nakia leaves six years before whatever point the movie fits best in the timeline. And yeah, I just can't recall if there was snow at Val's house or not but I do like it earlier in 2025 than November. I just suspect it needs to be close to Quantumania, which seems like it will be in early 2026. Again, nice work!

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      I’m curious about why you think Quantumania occurs in 2026. (I have no clue at this stage, so I’m genuinely curious.)

    • @AbitofEverything4U
      @AbitofEverything4U Před rokem

      @@Geekritique Good question. Since Marvel has a tendency to advance the chronology of the films (other than prequels like Black Widow), it makes me think they will place Wakanda Forever around the time of Thor L&T, which of course D+ places in fall of 2025 (whether that is correct is another issue, of course). Thus, I think Marvel believes Wakanda Forever is also late fall 2025 and thus Marvel will do their best to find a way to place Quantumania in early 2026 to keep the movies moving forward.
      Marvel's movie habits aside, I do think Quantumania happens after Ms. Marvel, as she would have mentioned Scott's book if it was out yet. So I think it is after Sep 2026 when the start of Ms. Marvel occurs. It will also be after July, 2025 as Cassie is said to be 18 and was born July, 2007. So in-universe chronology may well lead to Quantumania being at least late fall 2025, but I do suspect it will end up being hinted to be in 2026. Total guess at this point, though.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      Interesting. As for Ms. Marvel and his book, eh, maybe? Teens that age are more likely to pick up a podcast than a book, but I see the logic.

  • @jayderibi7805
    @jayderibi7805 Před rokem

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @clawdaddygaming3821
    @clawdaddygaming3821 Před rokem

    will the GOTG holiday special be released soon?

  • @bashengatheblackmanta7003

    2025 is where I put wakanda forever aswell.
    As for the nakia kid, to me the baby was born late 2016/early 2017 but after the snap she decided to stay with her kid and raise him herself.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      I think the kid had to have been born after the Snap, as Shuri would have met him.

  • @pance_9912
    @pance_9912 Před rokem

    I think the only thing I can pick at is that Nakia left Wakanda a maximum of nine months after Thanos' attack (as opposed to a full year), since Toussaint was conceived before the attack and, well, pregnancies last nine months. I think the film heavily implies, if not outright states, that Nakia left Wakanda before (or just days after) Toussaint's birth. If he was born in Spring 2019, that means he was conceived in Summer 2018. Considering the Snap is in April (based off the line in WI? about two weeks passing between IW and AMaTW), that raises...suspicions about the father of the child that I'm certain aren't intended by the story haha. So we're left with the conclusion that Toussaint was born (and Nakia left) no later than January 2019. Six years makes it January 2025 in BPWF, and it's a little hard to believe that Boston would look like _that_ in January.
    Although the six years line isn't exact like the one year line, so maybe this isn't a dealbreaker. Just a way to narrow down the window. I personally got the vibe that Okoye's line was intended to convey that Nakia left pretty immediately after the attack - she sounds upset, like Nakia was expected to stay and help with the nation's recovery - but I suppose it's open to interpretation.
    Either way, the idea of Toussaint having so little time with his father if T'Challa died in November 2023 is sorrowful enough that I wouldn't mind just swallowing a discrepancy between the setting and the chronology here, if they want to imply some months of time that the two had together. Even if it is January 2025, maybe it's just a really sunny day in January. And I also take no pleasure in bringing up contradictions to your work because you're doing the most out of all of us! Just hoping to maybe be of some help when you're making your considerations for the future timeline video.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      Oh I’m definitely doing the math when it comes to Touissant’s age. I expect the only reason Ramonda knows off-hand that it’s been 6 years, is because she’s using the age of her grandchild as a marker.

    • @pance_9912
      @pance_9912 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique Oh yeah, you were going off of Spring/Summer for the Snap, not April specifically. That's a good read of Ramonda's character :)

    • @thomasbacon8564
      @thomasbacon8564 Před rokem

      Iirc the mid-credits does say Nakia and T'Challa both decided Toussaint shouldn't be raised in Wakanda. So T'Challa definitely knew about the pregnancy!

  • @peterpijamas8190
    @peterpijamas8190 Před rokem +2

    Maybe summer 2025. In spring 2024 Ayo and the other doras comes to Bucky to capture Zemo. Maybe they did it by themself because T’Challa was very sick. But it doesn’t seem to me like they have lost their King.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      The show was written and filmed before Boseman’s death. Don’t think we can use that as an indicator.

    • @alexdacostagarcia4395
      @alexdacostagarcia4395 Před rokem +1

      @@Geekritique Even if you cannot use that as an indicator because the show was written prior to Chadwick's death, what Peter says can make sense, and it's not necessary to place WF in Summer, maybe it can be in April or May and that way it all works out for me. Great video, btw;)

  • @ryleighmac7315
    @ryleighmac7315 Před rokem +2

    Just wondering if you will be doing all 13 X-Men movies, due to their connection with Deadpool. Since, Deadpool 3 will be coming to the MCU

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      No clue yet. Maybe. Eventually I’ll have to.

    • @ryleighmac7315
      @ryleighmac7315 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique No Rush, it’ll be good to have a idea of where they take place, so I can do my supercut

    • @CaptHayfever
      @CaptHayfever Před rokem +2

      The _sequence_ of the X-Men films is pretty easy; it's just the _exact dates_ that are hard.

  • @MattPerk7
    @MattPerk7 Před rokem

    Spring 2025 makes the most sense

  • @gbozzi05_
    @gbozzi05_ Před rokem +2

    I would say the earliest would be May-June 2025, considering there doesn't seem to be any mentions of T'Challa death in TFatWS, and Wakanda plays a significant role in the show. And since Riri wouldn't be having classes in June, i would say between September-December 2025

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      I don't think its fair to use TFatWS as a timeline indicator. The show was written and filmed before Boseman's passing.

    • @gbozzi05_
      @gbozzi05_ Před rokem +1

      @@Geekritique ik, just saying it would be a little wierd in-universe

  • @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
    @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 Před rokem

    When are you doing your eternals reboot and are you doing doctor strange 1 change ? I’m going to say March 2025 when the film comes and Bast was unaware because she was with the other gods and Zeus so I think this would imagine the start takes place before love and thunder March 2024 T’challa’s death short illness

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      I don’t think Doctor Strange needs to be changed. Eternals soon, hopefully.

    • @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
      @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique thought you were going to change doctor strange takes place before civil war

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      Nope. It starts before Civil War and ends after.

    • @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
      @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique yeah I know that I thought you where going to do a video on that on or are you going to update the graphic ?

  • @wilpeek1184
    @wilpeek1184 Před rokem +2

    You said, Thanos attacked sometime in Spring 2016. False: It was 2018.

    • @chronokeep
      @chronokeep Před rokem +4

      He just had a slip of the tongue. He acknowledges that one year after Thanos is 2019, so he probably said "'16" because of all the "6"s later on in the same sentence.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +4

      Said 16 because I was thinking of Black Panther. Yes, this is a mistake.

    • @wilpeek1184
      @wilpeek1184 Před rokem +1

      @@Geekritique That’s okay, I figured you probably meant to say something else.

  • @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
    @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 Před rokem

    Are you going to update the graphic and change doctor strange ?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      No. Why would I change Doctor Strange?

    • @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
      @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique I’m saying would
      Change it because it takes place before civil war

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      I use the climax of every film to place titles on my timeline. Doctor Strange definitely ends after Civil War, so I won’t be moving it, even if it starts before.

    • @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
      @TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique no worries just asking can’t wait for the new eternals one

  • @chrisconnolly86
    @chrisconnolly86 Před rokem

    Riri is still in classes when Shuri finds her, and MIT has their last classes of the year in mid-May, so it has to be in the spring (April or early May). But if T'Challa died in spring 2024, how does that square with the Dora Milaje's involvement in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier which takes place in April-June 2024? Could T'Challa have just died right before the events of TFATWS?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      I don’t think the Dora Milaje’s involvement in TFATWS has anything to do with his death.

    • @chrisconnolly86
      @chrisconnolly86 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique But if they did happen around the same time (April-June 2024) and the Dora Milaje didn't at least mention T'Challa's death in TFATWS, that's a little plot hole. Unless T'Challa didn't die until after TFATWS, which could then push the timeline for Wakanda Forever into the summer of 2025.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      I think it’s just a thing you have to overlook, as irl, Boseman was still alive when they were making TFATWS.

    • @chrisconnolly86
      @chrisconnolly86 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique TFATWS was on pandemic hiatus when Boseman passed, and I have to imagine it was strange for those Dora Milaje actors if they then came back from that break to finish filming on TFATWS. But I do wish the exact timeline had been addressed by the time Wakanda Forever was filmed. That said, yes, it can and perhaps should simply be overlooked, like other MCU timeline inconsistencies.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      I’ll go into it briefly during my next video.

  • @KPlaysSports123
    @KPlaysSports123 Před rokem

    If it takes place in Spring or Summer 2025, that is 7 years after Thanos attacked. I understand it's an estimation, but surely she would just say 7 rather than 6. I believe it's likely to be about February 2025

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      Unless 6 is the age of the child, and she left around the child’s birth.

    • @MrEvilDrPorkChop55
      @MrEvilDrPorkChop55 Před rokem

      I think she would've had to leave before the birth for the child to be a secret. She couldn't have left after Feb '19 if it was after the birth, but for a secret heir, I think she must've left closer to Oct '18. Great video by the way

  • @leejayjusto567
    @leejayjusto567 Před rokem

    hawkeye black panther wakanda forever she-hulk attorney at law ms. marvel is that right?

  • @realjohnlove
    @realjohnlove Před rokem

    The film could simply occur over a period.
    Wishful thinking that T’Challa spent a long period of time with his dad isn’t a fair assessment. The child lived 5 years without ever meeting T’Challa.
    It doesn’t make sense with the 6 years line that it would occur in 2025. And we saw Massachusetts & DC with Ross jogging. But ppl in Mass will dress like that in November if its 50-60°. I lived in Connecticut. We had 10° weather, we had 60° weather in November. On average, November is about 50-60°
    November 2024 could simply be when the Wakanda Outreach Center was attacked. That is a good barometer & by the end of the film it could be 2025.
    At some point in the film we know almost a week passes after Ramonda’s assassination.

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      The film doesn’t lend itself to being longer than 10 or so days. We know the day/night cycles pretty well as we have a lot of lines delineated “in one week,” or “yesterday,” etc.

  • @poyzee7702
    @poyzee7702 Před rokem

    I understand why you’re placing it in spring of 2025 but my gut is simply telling me 2026. I feel like Spring of 2024 is a little bit too short of a time frame for T’Challa’s illness to progress so much. Of course we don’t know what in universe illness it is I have so far assumed it was cancer. I am aware that cases can have a very rapid and sudden decline so it’s entirely possible. But I just feel that only getting about 4-6 ish months after coming back from the blip is too rapid. (I know I’m repeating myself I’m sorry I haven’t slept but I’m not done) also I feel another thing to take into account is the actor’s aging, Shuri looks at least more than a year older than she did in endgame in this movie. Yes the actor aging is bound to happen but I feel it’s intentional to show time passing, plus they could’ve fashioned her to look a little younger (2012 Tony Stark actually looking like 2012 RDJ in endgame rather than present day RDJ)
    Anyway yes this was a total mess but I hope I made some sense

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      This too is a possibility, but it becomes more difficult to squeeze into the bigger picture of the timeline when you have to deal with things like when Toussaint was born and the 6 year time period you’re required to play with.

    • @poyzee7702
      @poyzee7702 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique that’s true, did we hear his age because I don’t recall hearing it I just assumed he 6-9 but no older than that. He could’ve been born in 2017 or early 2018 which could make this work. Unless we did hear his age in which case there goes my theory

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      Considering Shuri doesn’t know of the child, he’d have to be born during the Blip.

    • @poyzee7702
      @poyzee7702 Před rokem

      @@Geekritique I disagree, he was kept a secret and this just may have been one he kept from shuri. I’m not saying there’s no way that you’re right but I don’t agree that reason is why it is or is not. For instance, T’Challa never introduced her to his son before his illness took too much of a toll on him so it could’ve been a secret he kept before the blip as well

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      There would be zero reason to keep the child from Shuri if both T’Challa and she were alive. I don’t understand the rationale.

  • @cardboardbelt
    @cardboardbelt Před rokem

    So are we saying that T'Challa died shortly after Falcon and the Winter Soldier?

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +1

      Perhaps during. We don’t know for sure.

  • @kevinyk1648
    @kevinyk1648 Před rokem

    Wiki page says it’s September 2024 and 2025

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem

      I don’t agree with the wiki, on many things.

  • @Colinorino
    @Colinorino Před rokem

    Since Shuri didnt knew about T‘Challas son, Nakia must have left Wakanda a short time after Thanos attack

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      Shuri was snapped as well, so she would have been gone when T’Challa’s son was born.

    • @CaptHayfever
      @CaptHayfever Před rokem

      I think a few months would be realistic, so long as she wasn't showing a bump yet.

    • @Colinorino
      @Colinorino Před rokem

      @@Geekritique ahh right

    • @thomasbacon8564
      @thomasbacon8564 Před rokem +1

      @@Geekritique Oh that's a good point! And, hmmm, it's worth noting Wakanda would have been in chaos at the time, meaning Nakia may well have been able to conceal giving birth.

  • @CobraShadowz
    @CobraShadowz Před rokem

    Nakia must’ve left before she started showing signs of pregnancy otherwise everyone would know. I think early 2025 works best.

  • @itstianooong
    @itstianooong Před rokem

    maybe they adapt the death of late chadwick boseman in august month

    • @Geekritique
      @Geekritique  Před rokem +2

      That’s a possibility, I just don’t see any proof of it.

  • @SMP2390
    @SMP2390 Před rokem

    So I'm guessing Falcon and the Winter soldier happened after all this.

  • @Seras99
    @Seras99 Před rokem

    Oh no…

  • @noahevans9056
    @noahevans9056 Před rokem

    Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (May, 2025)

  • @MCUFanTV_Nahid_I
    @MCUFanTV_Nahid_I Před rokem

    Update your timeline video time