Our 600+HP LEVORG is BROKEN - Can we fix it?
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- čas přidán 26. 11. 2023
- We pushed the limits of what a Flat 6 Subaru with a turbo can do and there's always a chance something could go wrong...
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whenever i build an engine i run it for 5-10 minutes and change the oil and filter just to make sure that any "slag" is out of the engine. then i drive a few days and check the oil and filter again.
Piston slap mayb had one that had nosie asked specialest they said she b ryt never had prob
A proper episode finally….there has been a bit too much internet wasting lately. Back to the mcm roots,love it.
A supra on the hill, am I missing something, since when does Moog have a supra?
🤞it's not an a90
We need a temporary intro whilst Moog is on top gear of just Marty walking around the workshop calling out for Moog!
Moogs on top gear?
@@kcrichton7485 He's one of the new hosts for Top Gear Aus
Thanks for the heads-up on that good news!
Just need to re-enact Escobar standing around by himself
Ffs top gear Australia, you can't break up Marty and Moog
What was Moog saying at the end about a Supra? Are they being sneaky again?
The Levorg is awesome, I’m happy it’s running smooth.
my guess is a battle with the rx7
Probably referring to the Camry
They posted an A70 on Instagram a little while back. Wonder if Moog is referencing that?
he said something about it on unicorn circuit too, dunno if hes takin the piss or what
Was thinking the same. There was a MK4 with them in a video earlier, but dont know if it belongs to them.
the ultimate Subaru experience
imagine going through all that--pulling the engine, starting to tear it down, breaking the clutch in the process--only to find out it just needed a valve job. i would need one or several stiff drinks if that were me. props to you, mr. martin, for sticking it through, when lesser men would have given up.
For those who don’t have the option of pulling an engine more or less just for fun, I can’t recommend getting an oil analysis enough. Take a sample of your oil, either between services or while changing the oil, and mail it off to the lab. It’s a great low financial cost and low time cost option. They can detect trace amounts of metals and identify issues before you even notice an issue, such as hearing a problem.
Can be done with gear boxes too
Great shout 👍. Never thought of doing something like that tbh
My oil sample came back HIV+. She's farrrrked, blowing T cells out the exhaust.
CAT and Komatsu run labs. Grab a test kit and send it off in the mail. Lots of towns have a dealership.
Used them both plenty of times.
Or… you can use the money you save from not doing that to go towards building a backup engine. It’s what makes Subaru a Subaru. (WRX owner here)
"The Supra is up the hill over there.....OH YOUR ONE?"
I thought I might have been the only one to hear that haha
Moog finally bought himself a small mountain?
I thought I was hearing things as well. Sneaky way of announcing the next project
heard that too
He's probally bought a shitbox Kia and called to Soup-brah.
That ending.... you cheeky buggers! Awesome work Marty!
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I thought nobody else had noticed!!
Haha, I was all, "waitaminute!!"
this was an emotional rollercoaster, Marty sounded at the beginning like a parent that is just giving an update on a sick child and while i know they are not similar at all it was giving thta vibe, im so glad the operation was successful
Aaron Gipp knows EZ30s really well and has given me tons of great advice for mine. Great to see him sharing his expertise for the Levorg
Some real emotions in this video. Must have been a rough time mate. Your video's always make us feel like a mate is showing us something and I'll always be a fan.
So glad it worked out for him and that it wasn’t a major issue. It is the joy and yet worrying about modifying an engine but so far so good.
One of the best elements of this show. Is collaborating with other people. Keep up the good work!
Is that Aaron Gipp? Bloke is a legend! He is always helping me out with questions for my EZ30 turbo build. Currently have my very own supergramps setup, glad to see the small tight knit community helping each other!
The best part of this video is seeing the Mira hanging out in the back of shot a few times. That will always be my favorite MCM build ever, and it's good to just lay eyes on it again
Really hope they're doing something cool to it hey, Mira is the best
Best part about the Mira build is.. right after the build was done, the government changed the grey import laws slightly, meaning a 4wd Mira can now be imported into Australia and registered.
@@Jonathan_Doe_ yeah that was pretty brutal but to be fair I haven't seen a single person actually import a 4WD L210 yet, only normal TR-XXs so far
Its always cool when a 4x4 channel mess with street cars! 😄 Thanks for the video! Always love these type of videos that show more that other channels might put behind the scenes and never show.
This is a 4x4
Maybe the hubs are locked?? 😉
@@TheG60528XiJinPingnot 4x4, AWD 😝
this is most definitely not a 4x4 channel. It’s the inverse of what you’re saying they are a street car channel that dabbles with 4x4 content. 😊
@@GatherYeRosebudsWhileYeMay it's a joke, mate.
Man, your comment about “engine malfunction denial” hit me hard…I’m currently going through the same thing with my bike build and avoiding having to tear it all down again. But this video has given me the kick in the arse needed to go get it done.
This gave me the same vibes I got back in high school watching Marty's RS Turbo video where he went down to Victoria. What a contrast.
Love having the boys together but Marty humbling tinkering is pure joy.
Something we can all relate to working on our own projects going through the highs and lows with mates at times and on our own many times too.
Marty car mods
The Marty only episodes are really about cars, the Moog side is mostly negative and it gets old. So I agree
As far as bucket issues go, it least it wasn't the motor kicking the bucket that you had to worry about
Shattered I missed you guys that day. Just drove my freshly built GF8 down from Brisbane to Subinats and it went smoother than I could imagine. Seems like we both had a win that day lol. So glad you didnt have any more dramas than what you did with it, its the worst feeling when your Subaru isnt 100%. So happy for you Martin.
Fill the cylinders with oil and let it sit overnight. It'll be OK in the morning. 👍
If you know, you know.
remember to leave spark plugs out before starting to clear excess oil.
What does that do?
@@RespecIt it prevents warranty claims.
I'm convinced this joke will never get old lmfao
The fact ppl still build high power Subarus even after the internet existing is a testament to mankinds persistence
It is the definition of insanity. Build, explode, build, explode, build... Explode! Why does it keep exploding!?
Pity they are giving away a car, that is guaranteed to bankrupt the poor kid that wins it.
Supergramps put in the work for years without much issue though
@@CBD-Life-South-Africa Not if they use the opportunity well and immediately use the brumby to build a social media presence! Imagine how well a video titled "I won the MCM brumby... then it exploded" would do..........
@@CBD-Life-South-Africa Please explain to me how an old Ute with an NA forester drive-train (with brand-new engine control) going to bankrupt someone...?
My 2005 Impreza just died today 😢 250,000 miles on it though. It had a good run. RIP.
She served well...
Yep my 2015 legacy had electrical issues at 244k miles and couldn’t figure out why it wouldn’t run. Cut my loss and sold it. RIP.
Thanks for taking us on this journey with you. Filming and talking into a camera while elbow deep in oil and stressed is probably the last thing you needed. Having said that maybe it helps keep the sense of fun and knowing that while your having a hard time it will have purpose beyond getting the noise fixed.
Really enjoyed this video. So pleased for you that you were able to fix it with no major issues found in the motor. I see some frequent oil changes ahead for this motor.
So glad it worked out!!!
Man my heart broke after everything that has gone into this build, to then see the engine come back out 💔
Haters gonna hate, but for all of us who love our projects, you have our support 💪🏽
So happy for you marty and figuring out the problem! Go and enjoy the car mate you deserve it!
After watching the whole thing, I'm pretty happy for yah, been there too myself with other cars. Having a buddy around always keeps the progress going, it's nice to see another mechanics project come life!
Agree 100%
Marty! Stoked that you got this sorted and I enjoyed watching the process - thanks for sharing. When we saw the bit cruising down the road with the roo watching on Mrs El_Freddo said “G’day mate” as you do then you did the same - classic!
Highlight for me was seeing that short clip of my brumby rolling into the Subynats Show and Shine 😝
Thanks for everything, you boys are true legends! Keep up the effort to produce awesome videos!
So happy for you Marty!! This is exactly what my gc8 needs since my rebuild, and I hope to re-bucket it soon.
Valves sound angry at the moment
The joys of owning a heavily modified car... happy to see it wasn't something catastrophic. Also, it's funny seeing some of the comments that are made before they'd watched the video lol
Having just done this process on two old Jaguar XJ6's (albeit with shims), both belonging to my late grandfather, having to take the heads off as the valves were also shot - I'm so glad we didnt have to deal with a flat motor! Good on you guys for pushing through and getting that beast going! (albeit with shims)
I'm 100% sure this is not the case but you guys always seem so calm and relaxed in the shop. It's inspiring and I love everything you guys do. It's funny and informative and entertaining all at the same time. This is by far my favourite chanel to watch about all things cars and I thank you.
Congrats on the finished build and having it at such a cool event! Always loved Suburus, tho i think they dont take to modifying as well as others all the time haha. They look damn good tho, from Brumby to WRX and 22B!
Happy to see the Levorg up and running!
Very happy to see the Grovel happy and healthy again! Absolutely love this project and where it has come.
Two Aarons one Levorg. Marty is a man of taste!
That trick with the adjustable wrench and pry bar is genius
except it can really nick those aluminium casings if they are well-stuck together
Had a similar noise on TT legacy,pistons were just touching cylinder heads in my case ,thicker head gaskets fixed it 👍
Delighted to see that it wasn't a major failure, albeit a bit of a shame that the buckets had to be changed so soon after initial build (when you might expect this not to be an issue). Awesome spec and delighted for you - may it run for many years without further event...
You guys held my interest right from the start. Really enjoying this one.
At least you learnt from the experience and know to check your solid lifter tolerances when putting an engine back together. From the video of the noise you originally posted it seemed to be lifter noise and glad this turned out to be the case for you as although a time consuming fix it was at least a relatively cheap fix 😊
Helpful tip for anyone trying to remove a pull type release bearing so you can reinstall. Press down on the release bearing so it compresses into the pressure plate, then insert a flathead screwdriver in between the bearing and the pressure plate and twist and the bearing will be able to be removed. Then you can chuck it back on the gearbox input snout like a new one would go and reinstall.
Can't you just remove the pivot shaft from the fork and remove the fork from the bearing like normal on an STI 6spd? Then just remove the bearing from the pressure plate assembly once the motor is out?
@@jibbsey This is to remove the bearing after the engine is pulled out, not during. It means you can stick it back on the snout when the motor is reinstalled and use it like a new unit would go it.
This is the first time in like a year that I have had a mighty car mods video put into my subscription box. I miss these videos!!
I had a forged CP Piston EJ257 in my old 07 Legacy and that thing sounded like a diesel engine, that was with the required .003" piston to wall clearance, stock is .0015 IIRC. I ran it for nearly 100k before just retiring it for a rust free 06 Legacy. This time around I just went with a stock new short block when building it. I enjoy the quite engine as a daily and it really doesn't need the forged pistons for what I'm doing with it. :)
Marty's a tougher man than I'll ever be.
When i first watched this video before bed last night, my immediate thoughts before even getting 2 mins into the video (after listening to the ticking/rattling noise) was that it was something to do with the rockers.
But its good that you did a partial tear down just to visually inspect the engine as you did throw the whole car together rather quickly.
Good work holding down the fort Marty. Best of luck with the build/rebuild process.
I am currently going through this on my 2013 STi so this episode is hitting real close to home 😅
you and like 50% of all STi owners, lol.
Ditto ✋🏽. Claim your my shit blew up pass here
You knows it bad that super gramps never have to had the engine replaced and it was on stock internals for the most part.😂😂
This is the thing that makes car customization quite a great hobby, considering the amount of work you need to do when things get all worn out and need to go in the bin, and all the creativity you can do when you send the purity in the bin as well. Glad the Leboring --> Levorg --> Levraaaaaaappp --> LeBoom --> Levraaaaaaappp is going all well.
Absolutely the best show yet!
When will there be a new UP! episode? Great to see the levorg back! Also I received my Miss Daisy poster, added her to my collection of MCM posters! Cheers!
They've gone very quiet on the UP for some reason.
@@ferrumignis yeah I’ve noticed that too, been looking forward to the next one - hopefully they will tell us soon
I love your guys mild builds like this, I'm hoping I can build something of my own soon. Sad to see it broken tho!
Nice to see you working in the home shed! Would be cool to get an update tour to see how it's changed 🙂
Glad it worked out for you. I have been down that road a few times. All the time, money and effort just to have to go through it again.
Glad to see it worked out well. Next up: rebuilding the blue STi
The gemini
I’m sure they’re all going to happen. Moog may need to stop the Levorg and pry Marty from the driver’s seat though!
I've been thru the EJ journey now transitioning over to FA if this current motor in my Rexxie goes I may go the EZ route *but I'll continue to watch Marty suffer thru it first before I even attempt this swap in my car 😅
I’m always so amazed with how people know how to pull apart such complex engines and even more so, remember how they go back together.
I had the same issue when reinstalling my EJ. Rushed a bit getting it aligned and bent those little finger tines. I tried to justify bending them back but ended up ordering a new one. Better to be delayed a couple of days versus having to pull the engine again.
Note to the comment section: When installing an EJ/EZ always check for clutch engagement prior to finishing the install and plumbing all your lines up. Will save you a lot of headache.
The frequency and consistent tone of it sounded like a valve clearance issue to me.
It sounds just like a Honda valve clearance click
This just cements my opinion that if expert shops can't built Subaru's to last... Rest of us have no chance! I'll stick to my 400whp 1jz and glance at the oil pressure if I hear it splutter... 😂🎉
That's sort of what I was thinking. It's been a while since I've seen the episode, but didn't like the country's premier Subaru shop build this engine?
@@ragweedmakesmesneeze done in UnZud if I remember correctly. So yea. Wonder how long it woulda lasted!
Cannot stress enough how much I LOVE how cars bring mates together. Whether they're professionals befriended over the years or life long mates pulling long days/nights to get it going again.
Marty congrats on getting the LeVorge back up and running. And in good shape. Enjoy the ride now. 😊
That oil pressure after the oil change looked awfully high.Don't know if that is intentional, or if something has blocked up part of the oil system - spun bearings, swarf in the galleries, etc. Too high a pressure always makes me think there's too little oil flow somewhere.
Smeedia’s H6 swapped STi also runs at 90 psi oil pressure.
The best thing about things going wrong for you guys, is that we get another great video haha. Not that I want things to go wrong and for you guys to get pissed off of course!
It's bittersweet saying I've been waiting for this episode, it was heartbreaking seeing the posts on the h6 builders group
Dang. Good to see the mates came over to help.
Piston slap from the forged internals? Get the oil analyzed maybe? Edit: a loose valve is a happy valve.
I will never touch another Subaru in my life again😅
A wise decision.
Honestly not really as bad as people make it seem if you leave it stock and do proper maintenance.
@@v8_sami yes stock they are fine
But these are not to be messed with unless you have the time and the money😅
ive shimmed heads on fords here in the uk in the past and can be mind blowing sometimes working out what its got,how much gap there is and changing up as necc.fair play to u
Nice video thanks for hard work 👍
Hey Marty, is that what the RS is for? When the Levorg is broken?
It’s a Subaru that’s why
Way more people modify them than lots of other brands cause they are fun and rewarding, sometimes stuff breaks.
Always breaks if it's a Subaru
@@mightycarmodsegg Zack Lee
Subaru happens
Subaru always breaks :(
Pulled out my h6 after overheating, replaced it with a scrapper... which had bottom end knock, so now I will rebuild my original h6 to prepare it for a turbo. Thanks for the inspiration to get back on with the project.
Wow, congrats man, looks like it's working beautiful now!
Enjoy it.
Btw, a definitive term like Six Cilinder Bucket Rocket would be nice, just as a crazy understatement for all the effort you put in and power it makes.
What's this about a supra on the hill?
That was a stressful episode but I'm really glad it had a happy ending!
Have you boys done a SVX yet? I don't recall that you have...🤨
svx are the only subary Id want. They look so good even 20years later. Kinda like the 2nd gen isuzu impulse
Well done boyzzzz … impressive battle glad to see you winning!!!
Easily my favourite car on the internet. Awesome stuff as always
Broken subie huh never seen that before
Are we going to get a visit from Uncle Rodney?
Rodney goes "Knock, Knock, Knock"
It's the Subaru experience.... SIGH
Nice work Marty!
These mostly Marty only episodes are always the best.
I feel for you mate, most depressed you can get when you just want to drive your project
Everyone seems to knock on Subaru for their "poor engine reliability." Unfortunately, Subaru engines usually knock louder.
Love ya Marty. Your host vids are just something else
Love that it's a reasonably simple fix. But, wtf did Moog say at the end?
This is really interesting, I've never thought much about valve clearances with a bucket style OHC.
First style I ever done and it was on a isuzu impulse. Great design, low reciprocating weight and very compact
I had the same issue with my sti ej regarding the clutch retention lock. I ended up going with the ACT Monoloc Collar. Much easier to work with and better peace of mind for me.
I recently installed the same Xclutch on my Twincharged EJ. It’s really good!
That's great news. You spent so much time and effort into this build. Like you said, put some kkkk's on it and enjoy it.
Love the video marty. Doing that sort of job is well beyond my scope. But I did notice something at 23:33mins it looks like you are missing a belt... was that intentional? Anyway Levorg looks amazing, just a beautiful car 👍
You don't need your accessory belt to test run the engine
Marty please don’t forget when I helped to clean OG supergramps at the show and shine Subinats in 2015 at Wakefield park. You gave me a jumper I wear it when modding on cold days. Well done on the H6!
I felt for you when you first heard that noise but having good people to help you diagnose the problem to achieve a cheaper in the long run compared to full tear down fix if you didn't have them awesome peeps
The thing I've noticed about forged pistons is that unless you're really putting it under load, they don't actually warm up and stop slapping. Like a daily driver with forged pistons, the slap will be more dependent on weather than coolant temp. So towing with forged pistons, that probably warmed them up nicely and were nice and quiet. You might find in future that cruising around unloaded they may slap again.
Great episode....
Loved the white 1.gen. Legacy with the misspelled word on the windscreen.
😂
(or maybe it was intetional..? IDK....)
4:00 "Still a noise, but it's sooo subtle"
🚁
Brother you looked worried. Almost scared. Fuggin Ell man...
Sending you a solid Hug.
Am relieved to say the least!
As soon as I heard the noise, it sounded *exactly* like my old EJ25's valves, right now. One valve is out of lash, and it sounds like a lot of tappa tappa until it warms up.
Whenever I pull it for the leaky rear main (third time in 3 months because i'm a doofus), it's getting another adjustment. It'll be fine.
The bigger issue for me is gonna be the 4EAT slamming every time it downshifts to get up a hill or to pass. That's tiring. Gotta put in my spare valvebody, and rebuild the old one.