Vanadium Metal from Thermite
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- čas přidán 28. 12. 2019
- We make some vanadium metal for some upcoming experiments, in the heat. while it's hot. In the hot weather
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Ok so the frame rate issue is a render error, sorry about that. Was hoping i'd be able to fix it today, but you can't do anything to help that out on a Uploaded youtube video, and I don't want to take it down and re-upload. Here's a smooth, normal version of the video you can watch, if the issue is too annoying for you! czcams.com/video/hY4vWD0cYlg/video.html
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cool reaction bubby, i'm surprised how quickly the glass broke very little delay.
Nicholas Brown rubies are just aluminum oxide. Aluminum oxide is made all the time in thermite reactions, but it will never produce large crystals that would be worth anything. Sorry, no quick ruby making machine here
Vu
0:36 - "Isolating cat shit from cat litter"
true chemistry right 'ere mate
"Our reaction container is going to be this glass bottle here"
Mate you are making a glass hand grenade
I did that once with standard thermite, blew the top off sending half the un burnt fuel in the air, then blew out the bottom which was used, never did find the top, moral of the story, don't use sugar chlorate as an ignition source in an unreinforced container
How about filling that pot with sand, and partially cover the glass bottle?
@Dr. M. H. One, two, five
One brazilian channel tried the tiktok's matches in a bottle reaction.
It went very very wrong, the bottle chain reacted way faster than it should and blew glass shards over the whole crew.
They got fine after healthcare, but that was some heavy handled experiment, terrible way to end a year that was
"It's not yellow, it's orange"
"It's not pink, it's light-ish red!"
-Donut
piranha031091 that’s an old reference, but a good one
Your pfp has a fuckin yellow flower. Traitors will be shot in the back
I would recommend for any thermite reactions to use terra cotta pottery containers. They can withstand thousands of degrees and are pretty cheap.
That’s what my chem teacher used, it worked pretty well
LOL, I just made a suggestion to the same, then read this. Absolutely agree. 👍
@@shotintel or mabe a crucible
Yeah the glass was a bad decision. Even metal would have been better.
Was gonna say the same thing
"They're minerals"
Breaking bad vibes
Goddamnit Marie, they're minerals!
it's subtle, but nevertheless great :)
I hate that I know exactly what this quote is from... ._.
What's with the frame rate here?
Is bullying yourself from a different channel considered harassment or self-harm?
Yeah, I just wanted to bitch about it...
Maybe your camera was skipping frames because of the heat?
I know some do, but I haven't seen it happen for quite some time (unless you count people trying to shoot videos with their phones...)
right? what a fuckin idiot
@@mortlet5180 I'm pretty sure 40C is actually outside the operating range of most consumer electronics, and it was out in the sun, filming thermite. Kind of a worst-case scenario.
@@Teth47 I don't think that camera was the issue though... I don't know what he uses to film when just walking around and pointing at things, but that is the one which I think made his editing software decide on a 'lowest common denominator' framerate.
As an electrical engineer myself, you might hear people say "nah, 40C is fine as the electronic chips are specc'd to operate up to 85C". While this is technically partially true (most consumer devices will use chips with the 'standard' max temp of 85C), the absolute maximum ratings in a datasheet is for the die itself (the physical piece of silicon inside its package) and at 0 power dissipation (most devices are derated to 0W dissipation at their max temp. Derating often begins at 25C already, where their maximum power dissipation is specc'd.).
So you're going to start thermal throttling a lot sooner, because at 40C you've already lost 40C-20C/(85C-25C) = 1/3 of the thermal headroom you had at 'room temperature'.
Sounds like a good reaction to do on a day with a total fire ban :)
There's months of total fireban, I gotta live my life some days!
1080p 13 frames per second. I like this new format.
I like the 20 frames per second
Cinematic
I love the hierarchy of flammables that you have to use: a flint (or an electric spark) to light a lighter to light a sparkler to light magnesium to light the thermite.
3:59 u be hank from breaking bad
@@bobbish1618 chears mate
For better yield you might use clay flower pots with holes in the bottom, covered with aluminium foil and fitting clay lids to set the reaction of in, and some other ceramic to catch the products. That's how my chemistry teacher made a really solid iron nugget once.
I shredded my grinders blades once when I was trying to grind up some electronic scrap I had burned down. I noticed something was wrong when nothing was moving anymore and then I noticed the blades were completely gone. Was crazy.
In case you didn't know, they put some kind of weird polish on aluminum foil in the US, you have to burn it off to form the oxide and then convert it back in a kiln
"sorry if i look sweaty" bro australia is on fire right now. being sweaty is nothing
With the vanadium being fairly dense you could perhaps smash all the glass/ceramic/slag up fine and then pan it... you might get any aluminium bits to go out with the other waste
using that glass bottle as a thermite reaction vessel is the equivalent of using organolithium reagents in open air - destined to fail
dammn finally caught tom's video on time this time
Aussie Chemist
Seriously! This caught me off guard
@@kriegguardsman9117 no kidding
Only because you up real late instead of sleeping
no sleep until 2020 lads
The rockhound in me flinched watching you take a hammer to that beautiful chunk of flourite... The pyro in me reached for the popcorn.
You can wrap minerals in a cloth before hitting them with a hammer, it makes it easier imo
Can't agree more on that , especially usefull if you trying to break something that is shatters as a glass when you don't want a lot of tiny sharp pieces laying all around.
I wonder if there’s another video that extracted vanadium out there with helpful tips on flux and slag containment? 🤔
Jk lol hope you had a good xmas and have a good new year man
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The Gayest Person on CZcams this was for u btw^
I was just thinking of you.
new videos soon? I need more gay.
Thermite video on my birthday? You're officially my favorite Aussie!
Happy Birthday!!
What is this, 2 uploads in the same week?
Two uploads, half the framerate!
@@thomasrush2095
That equals 1 upload, right?
Your videos always make my day. Thank you
Would nighthawkinlight's starlight recipe work to resist the thermite reaction, contain the slag and be very cheap. You could also mold the starlight to whatever shape you wanted
"hopefully the glass contains, at least, the fireball..."
@7.29 into the video I'm gonna guess "uhuh, yeah, right... That'll happen!"
Ya, thin wall glass.... Well at least it didn't get out of the pot.
"From this rock here... They are not rocks, they're minerals!"
Hank's meme fits perfectly here
IJWTS the hatred for yellow chemistry is what keeps me coming back to this channel.
New Years eve is close time to build those firecrackers :D
yes please lol i would love to see that
Lol not like Australia needs any more fire
@@bangbangliu2146 Come visit Germany, we got beer and Schnitzels :D
Watching you hammer the fluorite made me sad, do chemists not know the joy and wonder of the bench vise?
He used the test tube clamp as a bench vise.... That really hurt to watch.
Use a small and thick terracotta pot with a lid (secured down), and small vents to release pressure but big enough to release most of the sparks. I think you might get better chunks. Also using more of your mixture would probably create a better thermal mass to provide more time for the metal to flow together.
Or look into metal casting containment and preform your reaction in an inverted cone shape mold.
Just a theory, I'm not an expert, just going off some of the other work I've seen done and their results.
Good luck.
That Fluorite felt more like quartz when you were trying to break it lmao, goddamn that was a tough piece
You probably already know, but vanadium is named for Vanadis, the Norse goddess of beauty, on account of the wide range of lovely colours that vanadium compounds have.
Huh, turns out a glass bottle isn't the best container for a thermite reaction... who would have guessed?
My mom used to make porcelain dolls, making her own molds of plaster, off a master, and then pouring "slip" into the mold, letting it set for a bit, ten fifteen minutes or so, then pouring the slip back in the bottle, letting the mold cure overnight, leaving a doll head, or body, whatever, about 2-3 mm thick hollow part, that would get fired to green, then finished, painted what ever, and hard fired. You could do the same with a bottle, say, as the master, and do the thermite in a ceramic cast mold of it, as was used for thermite in welding rail, and steam boat cranks, on side-wheelers, a century ago. I expect that would contain the blast and allow a good coalescing. I really like thermite, it's so useful.
You should make some crucible steel with vanadium - it can forms some very interesting carbide structures depending on concentration.
That nervous laughter before you light it
Sounds like he's saying the fluorite will be a "hate sink" that will absorb all the hate released by the reaction.
We got explosions and fire! This is why we come here! I liked the analysis and hypothesizing as to how to slow the reaction. I have tried to do the same for manganese because it reaches and exceeds the Mn boiling point in a Mn thermite reaction.
Just have to say I love the music you use on these videos. Very Aphex Twin/Autechre
Yeah I've noticed the same thing... very late 90s IDM/techno
Skam / Rephlex
some of it is Aphex I know for sure.
Tom, I know in this case you're after a coarse grind, but if you do want to powderise your solids, remember that old YT channel, Will it Blend? I don't think it's active any more, but it's still around. I have seen one of those things get a red-hot nickel ball in it, and the nickel came out of it WAY worse. Blender wasn't damaged at all! Since a blender has twice the blades of a coffee grinder, plus they're razor sharp and nigh-indestructible, I figure it'd do a better job.
As he’s pouring an EXPLOSIVE into a glass bottle: “We’ll give it a shot, why not?”
Should have preheated the bottle with a torch before igniting that, might not have broken. Vanadium is awesome, and I had no idea you can make thermite from vanadium pentoxide, I used to have a couple ounces of it, wish I had known before I got rid of it. Great video as always. I have a few clusters of dendritic vanadium crystals for my element collection, they are beautiful stuff.
It’s like a really good stop motion
time to show this video some love!
if you used a borosilicate boiling tube at like 3/4 the heat you could get it with a blow torch , almost glowing , then dump everything in ,i think that would conatin it better , and would avoid thermal shock if you time it right
Yes I prefer to getting my aluminum without sticking my finger near a blade 1 of death whilst plqugged in!😆
I think they cant turn on when the lid isnt closed.
2019 was a much better year than I thought at the time.
If you do this again, it might be worth: 1) Using more heat-resistant glass (as Nile Red did in his latest video) and 2) Pre-heating the glass somewhat, to avoid thermal shock breaking it.
An interesting video would be making VOCl3 from your residual V2O5.
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Ever thought of using ceramic flower pots for termite reactions?
I bought a rock tumbler for aluminum powder and use it as a ball mill. I wish I could buy it, but I'm Canadian, so no dice. The fun part is when you open it and if it's ground for too long it all oxidizes at once, causing it to melt, then burst into flame (which only happened once).
5:25 "If I really wanted to do proper science..." I love it!
that was cool man...nice explosion!! totally worth the risk :)
I’m really curious why you decided to make your aluminum particles bigger to slow down the reaction instead of using a flux like fluorspar or borax?
Extractions and Ire: [Breaks out a hunk of fluorite]
Every Astronomer watching: NOOOO. Don’t destroy that in a fire!!! Melt it and forge pretty lensesssssss.
The clear bit of "fluorite" you used may have been another mineral. Fluorite is relatively soft with a Moh's hardness of exactly 4 (Wonder why!). Additionally fluorite exhibits perfect octahedral cleavage. The stuff you were breaking up seemed quite hard and didn't exhibit the expected cleavage.
Pro tip after you finish grinding your aluminum foil that your weed came in empty it and stick the weed in and you can grind up your weed to make the thermite reaction so much more exciting
Added bonus the reaction will take ages if you smoke the weed before setting it up
Damn, you poor bastard. The heats been nuts!
I have no idea how I ended up on your channel, and I have no chemistry background (been a solid 8 years since grade 12 chemistry), but I enjoy the shit out of your vids, my dude. Keep blowing shit up and I'll keep watching.
Instead of a glass bottle, use a well-dried and fired clay pot with a hole at the bottom. Wrap it in addition with a fiberglass mat. this is how the railroad tracks are welded. Greetings from Poland
Why would you do this in a glass bottle????
You technical languages is superb. "Triangular bit" - you sir remind me of myself :D
Real technical, thank you
I've got a couple of pounds of Vanadium pentoxide on hand.
It's an ingredient in a universal hot prime for Pyrotechnic stars, along with some Aluminum powder, Potassium perchlorate, Potassium nitrate, diatomaceous earth, wood flour, red gum, guar gum and gum arabic.
A decomposition catalyst for the perchlorate plus undergoes a thermitic reaction with the Auminum. Good stuff, works better than Iron oxides.
Watched an entire 4 minute ad so hopefully you can get a little bit of ad rev from it. Keep it up man, love your vids.
2:56
Ahh the smell of burning motor brushes being eaten through at lightning pace mixing with the bitter sweet smell of powdered aluminium as it also settles out of your bloodstream in to your brain 😌 takes me back to my own misguided thermite cooking 🍳
And I went
Blender
Coffee grinder
Mortar and pestle (gives great texture for mill)
Ball mill (mixed stainless ball size)
Brilliant
Using that glass bottle kinda hurts...
Great video though 👍🏼
Always love your content bro, it’s me Velzee from SM and Discord. We should catch up soon!
A box of fireplace bricks might help contain this stuff better, high heat tolerance, less likely to shatter, and relatively inexpensive
something about a good ol’ mate saying “nugget” just sends me…
Tiny flower pot or tea cup instead of bottle for containment?
Ceramics are much more temp shock resistant than glass, especially if dried before use, so that no moisture is trapped in it, that becomes steam and cracks it from the inside.
Ever considered making Raney nickel through a thermite reaction? Apparently it is possible and iirc it is mentioned in one of the early Raney patents but no details are given. I reckon you need a NiO/Al mixture and add more Al so the resulting product will be close to a @ NiAl alloy.
Glass bottle full of thermite? SIGN ME UP
Is it possible to do a reaction of Uranyl Nitrate and Magnesium in a way that does not contaminate your entire garden with depleted uranium dust?
I don't think that's gonna be a good idea, as the uranium would then ignite from the temperature, and that smoke is both highly radioactive, and massively toxic.
7:00 The world's loudest blunt
Would there be any efficacy to seating the reagent mixture in a silica(te) "nest"? basically a pail full of sand with a core of thermite?
Nice to see the V2O5 put to good use.
The Gayest Person on CZcams has some nice thermite videos including obtaining a large nugget of vanadium. He shows flux calculations too.
Looking forward to VCl3. I am totally with you on the chlorine chemistry.
(And I am the person who has been watching the "isolating vanadium" video. Sorry for spoiling the stats.)
By gayest person do you mean James Charles? I didn't think he'd ever be that kind of person
next time you do this cast the bottom of the glass bottle in plaster so when the glass breaks the metal still stays concentrated
Graphite blocks for containment, my man.
Awesome
Use a crucabl with a long steal pipe for a smoke stack. The pipe should fit just in side the mouth of the crucabl, you want everything to coalesce at the bottom and not on the rim of the crucabl. The pipe should be at least 1 to 1.5 meters long, no shorter then 1 meter. Place a coffee filter on top of the thermite and place 10 cm of loose sand on top of the filter. The filter stops the sand and thermite from mixing until the last possible moment, use a blowtorch on the side of the crucabl to ignite the thermite. I don't know if it would stuff up the reaction but I would use a shit ton of borax for flux.
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The glass bottle was a bad idea. The shock of it's shattering scattered your reaction mixture. I would suggest more flux and better confinement.
9:45 "Hm?" followed by a classic E&I lol moment :D
Sand you mad bastard,you need to bury the primary container in sand so it doesn't go everywhere when it breaks! Perhaps just make a sodium silicate&sand crucible? Porous enough to get rid of the gasses but strong enough to contain the splatter?
Yes
looked like a F.A.A. crash seen investigation. 10:30
Using glass as a container is a bad idea because before the mix fully ignites the glass shatters sending the fuel everywhere
I’m here watching a thermite video, drinking a Jack and Coke, trying to forget about organic chemistry
I usually take the foil off before I chop up.
Lit bro. What all are you going to do with it now?
That Hank reference. Nice.
You need a good granite pestle that you’re not afraid to break.... also when you sealed the top of the bottle is how you create a boom boom... so leave the top open, the glass will last longer, also try quartz glass
I do have one actually! It's just still covered in antimony metal from the last time I used it..
I like when chemistry involves hitting shit with a hammer.
Most people i know have one of those grinders and they don't use it for cooking but they do use it for getting cooked....
How about making a containment vessel out of clay? Bake the water out, of course. Experiment with various wall thicknesses and such.