Napoli Is Crazy Powerful With New Commander Skills - Update 12.10
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- 0:00 - New Commander Skills
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Don't show yourself too happy about this changes... Last time a CC/CZcamsr was so happy with a secondary cruiser, the nerf hammer hit hard.
It should be nerfed
Who still remember the old agir
@EllieBanks333 then every sec needs nerf also bbs
@@MK-wx5vuYou mean all those BBs that have great secondaries, exhaust smoke + 8.8km smoke firing penalty, decent turning radius with speed, are super tanky with no superstructure and burn for ~15sec. when built only?
Yeah they should nerf all existing 0 of them.
Old agir and Siegfried
Like 11 to 7 km, the napoli secondaries deal the most damage. At 11 km, the small caliber secondaries actually do plunging fire and farm super
structure.
WG should change secondary aimming point back to the superstructure instead of belt
@@user-yc2pk5iy7eI wish wg would let you decide where they aim at generally once you get full dispersion buff at 50% but make it so that you have to aim the secondaries (generally where they're shooting at kind of like a torpedo spread) to hit that specific part of the ship and then depending on how good the lead was it will impact how accurately they lead as well
Love the outro cinematic, I got napoli B on the previus Black Friday, gonna have to test this build, keep it up !
Button does not reset commanders at all now. I just enables 0 doubloons individual reset. So we must manually reset every captain. Also every skill tree (up to 5) need to be reset separately. GJ WG!
Just done mine with the button in news article, ALL Commanders Skills reset.
@@michaelmcnally2331 I done mine 3 hours ago and no commander was reset.
ETA I see they added second button to reset skills. It was not there earlier.
@@ninobixio6156 did you try the RESET ALL CAPTAINS button in the 12.10 Assymetric Battles news article. Is all caps as that now is on the button in article. Not that shouting at you. I believe may have been broke earlier but certainly worked when pressed it. Game whirred had the nit responding box pop up but let it continue.
Once you push the button: it does not automatically reset your commanders, and you can continue to reset them with 0 doubloons. (Or pay out Elite Commander XP if you want. . .)
he covered that its in the news section
Thanks so much for the perfect explanation. PQ🥇
If anyone is interested, secondary Agir now works too, it's actually really hilarious.
I was testing it yesterday but couldn't do much damage with it, you take the equipment for the secondaries too? 10.4 km range
Plz tell me its true @@ReymonG90
@@ReymonG90 I used everything available to boost them to a range of 12 km. It's more of a meme, but since you don't sacrifice much, it's imo still worth it. It could do 18k+ dmg, not counting the fires, when I was just testing it and playing like an idiot. They could deal probably 20-30k if you try which is a nice bonus, especially in the late game. It mainly helps when brawling bbs, supporting dds and such. I'd not recommend it though on Siegfried at all, she has fewer secondaries. You could arguably try a secondary Roon now, she gets the same range of 12 km and has more secondary guns. It's important to note that you can't play these ships like typical brawlers. Whereas Napoli is more tanky than battleships and can survive being attacked from many directions, these two can't do that.
Marseille secondary build next? ;D
(Overpowered range)
i would like to see Agir with this new commander skill
Yeah this video just makes sad Agir/Siegfriend noises
The problem with the German cruisers is they can't tank at all like Napoli. Napoli is indestructible when angled correctly, and if you really screw up you have the cloaking device button. It just is so much more able to get into and out of dumb positions and live, and the SAP secondaries work so much better than HE ones, that it's no contest at all. It is the only cruiser you can legitimately build for secondaries. You can meme with other stuff and maybe like bring a smoke buddy and try all this stuff, but nothing has the package of Napoli.
Improved Repair Party Readiness is going to be better than the 4 point for some battleships now. Any bb with a super heal, any bb with a special repair party, any bb that can bow tank, and any bb that can use mobility to avoid damage. It's going to be a lot more versatile than a lot of people think, especially in late game when you're guaranteed to be targeted.
You've literally explain what is wrong with this game... You've laid out the philosophy of BBs who camp, let their team die and only think about not taking damage.
I'm not being mean, but from start to finish in your comment, I see a BB player I really wouldn't want in my team.
@@shilombaba I think you are fundamentally misunderstanding why I’m saying this skill is underrated, and that you are completely failing to see why this skill can be better than it’s counterpart - tanking damage is required for it to outperform repair specialist. It specifically encourages more aggressive play to activate the skill, and it makes the ship’s repair parties more accessible every time you tank potential damage equaling your ship’s total hp. It rewards bb players for doing what they should be doing and still surviving until late game. I don’t know why you’re being so pessimistic about such a positive change to a literally worthless skill before this update dropped. If a bb player wanted to camp, they wouldn’t bother with this skill. They’d just take repair specialist because it is the better option for camping.
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The AA skill works in a way, at least to my knowledge, that during the time the AA is active instead of 1s per 1s active cooldowns are reduced by 1,4s or 1,5s per 1s respectively.
I tried the napoli build, it was fun.
Also tried out the super heavy AP on vermont. It wasn't bad, but I only tried one game and rolled up against a gearing/Worcester/Austin div with a random thunderer in the back and the cv on our side... It wasn't fun. Guns definitely benefited though.
I haven't played in awhile but always watch your vids and enjoy them
Fantastic!
in the past they have given a full patch on most occasions to play with the new Cmdr. skills, plus they have included free demounting of equipment so you could make the most of the skills change. this is just one more thing WG is nerfing for the players that pay the bills and keep them in business.
Love the new Dazzle on Paolo! In, kill, take much less damage getting out of Dodge 😁
Yes and any DD that goes in and out of detect. You are detected and shooting? (it procs) pass island--concealed. When you leave the island shadow it procs again. It can mess with a lot of things
This is a lovely change 😊
Furious is a good skill on Conquerer with its super heal, people overlook that too often.
That was such a cool game
@PQ: You should definitely give a try to the Schröder, so much fun to play now as a seconday cruiser 😀
I just saved some coal, got the Marceau and im really liking it, but dang, i wish i had picked the Napoli, seems so much fun now
We had napoli on console for a while and I just unlocked it. I hope we get the long range secondaries on our napoli on console. I love long range secondaries. Seeing a napoli go off like.w shleffen Is awesome . 11 plus km range is sweet
You should run the Carnot secondary build
Theres nothing wrong with this. Hopefully it encourages people to push in. Im tired of current meta
plus main guns have a short range so no option it has to push in, agreed creeates some action
Woohoo, look at those secondaries fly!
@PotatoQuality Nice job as usual PQ.
AA Defense expert on Worcester is going to be stonks.
For AA Defence and ASW expert I'm thinking of ships like Atlanta, which has infinite DFAA charges.
I had some co-op battles on the PTS in New Steroid Napoli in which I was the only human. It's absolutely ridiculous what the secondaries can do against enemies whose prime directive is to get closer to you.
I took my Napoli out a few times today with its newly enhanced Commander skills. Admiral Sansonetti kicked a lot of butt today :-) My secondary damage has almost doubled...
you should see the italian bb's on wows legends. the entire tech tree line has sap secondaries. its really fun
Nah legends is for gays
Schröder now has 12 km secondary and 10.4 concealment
I really want you to try out Dazzle. I'm going to play around a little today with my French DDs jus to see how that 8% speed boost looks upon spotting. But they might not even be the best DDs to use it as they should be focusing on hitting hard. I would love advice.
The Italian DD's might love it.
I use it on the tier six and seven Italian boats and do not use the range mod. The gun range is just beyond the detection range. Get in range smack a dd or Cruiser and with a few shots and then quickly kite out of gun range and disappear. Just about the time dazzle ends. Works very well.
Crazy powerful it might be but I seen a lot get finished quick so still takes the right spots and match ups. I just got one from a container along with 3 other ships from 5 containers so go grab some guys. Wouldnt have paid 30k myself, even for smolensk which seems ever stronger than this. BTW did they release the auction results? Or the price stays a mystery?
Would've been great if we could choose ammunition for secondaries like in blitz. Tho idk if there is SAP for secondaries in blitz
At the other end of the scale I tried a secondary build on Dallas. (Yup. . . Dallas) All of those fine 5”/38s going to waste. Except the gunners are permanently blitzed on the torpedo alcohol. (Why not? Doesn’t have torpedoes.) Worst reload on 5”/38s ever, and they can’t hit the broadside of a barn from the inside.
Fortunately didn’t cost anything to change it back.
actually this probably isn't even for the napoli but the new Italian tier IX premium cruiser Michelangelo that has even more secondaries
This buff only gives extra range to the cruiser secondaries and not improved accuracy, correct??
The new port is cool.. i like the new stuff to look at.
Can you try Agir with secondary build?
Schroeder, Agir, and Seigfried all are mega fun too now
Time for a sacrifice to the old gods, bring out the golden oldies. I want to see a scharn & gneis rock the build. :D
Would the Napoli smoke come back 50 percent faster with the tier 4 aa skill?
A big miscommunication by WG: that "Get Discount" is really confusing in that IF YOU CLICK IT, then ALL of your commanders are reset. All of them. that's fine, but it means you have a lot of commanders to reset during the upcoming snowflake event that you likely would not have needed to otherwise.
I wonder how well the Puerto Rico would fair with a full secondary build
Liine 4 - Furious. If I am understanding this right, the first fire gets you -10%, then the next two fires and a flood could each add another -5%, coming to a total of -25% reload time just from this buff? That's pretty serious sounding! Add adrenaline rush and BBs are going to start throwing like heavy cruisers. Jean Bart with this, plus adrenaline rush and its reload booster could be very interesting. Just purposely tank right in and get nailed a bunch and then kill four ships in one minute lol.
Too bad you're losing like 10k health or tic with all those fires and floods. This could be a good going down guns blazing skill, but for like 1 or 2 pts
It would be a total of -35% reload with 4 fires and 2 floods.
Napoli my beloved
I used my Arctic Tokens to buy 2 Black Friday premium containers and was lucky enough to get the Napoli in one of them. Can't wait to use it!
I did that too, got a pommern and tripitz from those with tokens, then bought 5 and got napoli kage and 2 jap ships loving the containers.
mini Shliften.....it is crazy..434 secondary hits...
Napoli is crazy good and relatively easy to use . . . My best Coal Buy yet for certain and sure.
Okay so how do you get 4 sets of smoke? Mine has 2
On Dec 5th my Coal/Steel ship Coupon will refresh. Then its finally time to grab that thing 😁
I just grab it and it was better than i expected in randoms that 10km conceal is amazing
I found Radio location far more useful for Napoli than concealment, since it doesnt have hydro or radar.
I don't have Axillary Armaments Modification showing up in slot 5?
On EU they fixed the reset with doubloons it IS free
Bro, shuussshhhh, im just about to buy a napoli
I've actually found the Napoli secondary accuracy to have gone down about a month after it had released. Before if a destroyer got within secondaries it was basically dead. Now my secondary's fire off three or four volleys before they even land a single hit
Now can play schroder with legendary comman very op
How do you reset all commanders at one time?
Schröder.... 12km secondary, 10km Detection. Also yes, it is fixed, you can reset unlimited times, i guess.
the one dockyard ship i never finished, i hope they will reintroduce her at some point.
Me: This buffs my secondary Roon build.
I tried Napoli with your recommendation for the commander.
Incredibly.
Can we say that Napoli is an OP ship with this setup??
I fear michealangleo will replace it.
did 75k with secondaries in a game earlier, hilarious
I don’t have this secondaries skill to my captain, why? Can someone tell me please?
clausewitz secondary ????
This ship burns like normal cruisers, shes detection range are almoust like Zao, and she hase Main battery more then Henri (btw they both have 243 lenght and same speed). When they buff Henri it`s just normal cruiser,,,, But Napoli must have the same detection range like french cruiser (same lenght and bigger caliber) - 16 km...
I dont get why they make this ship so strong and continiun sell it....
good lord what have they done.
Can you hear it coming? The nerf atomisation is underway...
Maybe we can finally get a secondary agir
Ship request: AA build Worcester with the new commander skills and make CVs suffer.
Does Napoli move past Conde?
What do you think of taking the smoke upgrade in slot 2 instead of the secondary range?
Potato move
What is the SAP pen on the 90mm guns? I already know the 152s got like 42mm of pen.
for SAP secondaries just divide caliber by 3,6
So 152mm = 42,2mm pen
follows that 90mm = 25 mm pen
@@Baghno92 90mm have 26mm pen
26mm same as naplli
@@arczer2519
You're right. I didn't double check.
I thought seondaries' penetration followed a similar rule to the main guns (in which you divide the caliber by 14,3 to calculate penetretion values), but they do not align to this rule, as they have different ratios for the 90s and the 152s.
How are sap secondaries pen values claculated then?
@@tahiribnmohammad5410 yeah you're right. I don't understand how these values are calculated though
Perhaps Agir will finally be another secondary beast as well ?
Already tried it. It fucking sucks since the Agïr has terrible dispersion on the secondaries. You are better of with the standar Agïr build.
Aha admiral Schroeder should be fun
hitting the button in the news doesn't reset all your commanders. Hitting that button gives you the discount and you have to manually reset every commander
I pressed the orange button "Get Discount" and now the free resets are available. Hope it helps. Thanks for the Vids Brother.
try agir with the secendary build next time
Probably still suck. I'm gonna try it tho since it's free reset time
"Crazy powerful" might be the overstatement of the year?...
I can't reset for free, there's a normal price tag on resetting the commander skills. What's going on?
Just want to say thank you for this build. I don't think Wargaming is going to let us have this much fun playing this ship. I can see Wargaming nerfing this ship, for heavens know, they're trying hard to taking any enjoyment out of this game. Paultheboard is right, I can see a nerf hammer coming down hard on this or any other ship that is fun to play.
They wouldn't be wrong to nerf it though. PQ said in this video and I think most of us would agree it didn't need a buff. It was still tons of fun (and very strong) pre-buff.
Usually you get 9.2km and its more than enough. The 11km are not much of an advantage. It starts shooting a little bit earlier but in your case you was almost always within the old range. Not much more damage gained by the additional range.
but you forgot to mention that it benefits you also in other way because torps will deal also +15% DMG with the skill
@@Luciferian_Rays but torps are only overall small damage compared to secondaries or main battery. So, I think the skill is more or less useless
They probably nerf the ship soon
doubt, most players are just bad, so napoli will never have a big impact outside competitive, and random battles are the most common game mode among the player base, it really needs to be something really fucking busted for wg get their hands out of their buttholes to nerf something
People literally say this every time they see a fun ship, and WG has yet to nerf any released premium/special ship that the playerbase thinks is fun
@@saltyvanilla3304nah it’s been out too long. It’s fine
@@saltyvanilla3304they nerfed the thunderer and a nerf to the smolinges as two examples and they also nerved the Kremlin and the Schlieffen because they were a little too fun to play.
@@Skerra-kk6sm you can't compare Napoli to those ships Man, Napoli Is not really that level of "op", like yes the secondaries along side the concealment Is for sure a fun combo but it has no radar or hydro, the main guns are mediocre cuz range AND reload Is trash
This is the first time ive seen secondary range beign shorter than detect range. And it surprised me it ACTUALLY applies a fiering penalty
Why did you not click the button
SO WHAT IF 1 ARE 2 CAS ARE BBS ARE OP A LITTLE BIT LOOK AT SUBS AND CVS THATS OP
this commander reset is very scummy,
the reset already works, you need to press the "get discount" button to activate the 0 dubloon resets,
then it doesn't even reset all commanders, and you need to do it manually,
worst part: it doesn't reset all types
meaning if you have a commander with DD, cruiser, BB and CV skills already picked, to fully reset them, you either need a premium ship of that class to switch over and reset or you'll have to swap to another ship of that class, reset commander skills, and then retrain them for hundreds of thousands of commander exp...
so unless you have premium ships for that nation , full resets cost like 1 million commander exp on a 21 point captain
I took the Napoli out for only the 2nd time and got 6 kills.
i can't wait to try the new upgrade to furious, it will take a 30 second BBs reload down to 19.5 with all 4 fire burning and 2 floods going. of course, you will be dead in less than 2 shots from the damage ticking off your HP bar so fast..... no thanks WG
Ägir was fun 12km secondary guns
Do Schroeder next
So Siegfried is good now ?
nope
Aegir for more secondary and effective
@@maryceleste_aghost yeap u are right
remember what happened to dead eye? dont get to excited.
Hang on, so he basically farmed solo ships on low hp all game. I play Napoli all the time, easily 500 battles with it. I can remember one or two games where I had the luck of just serially solo hunting shit.
Try Marseille
Bec of this update i bought napoli with coal just now 😂😂😂 thinking on my next coal this dec with coupons....still got 250k coal 😂😂😂
I haven't played my CVs for a long time. I think, with this patch, this stays that way.
Since Italy was an ally to Germany, Lütjens should be assigned to Napoli. (Let’s imagine…) 😀
The Real problem with Dazzle is it FOUR points.
My change on skills cost me 375 Dubs a few minutes ago.
You have to go to the news article that mentions the new secondary skills and then click on Participate. Then you will be charged 0 dubs.