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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
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If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020 or even dogfighting in Battlefield 2042, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8.
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Apologies for the lack of external views in this video, anytime you see this its due to track corruption and there isn't much I can really do about it, its just one of the logistical issues we have to deal with when making DCS videos. Thank you guys for watching and I'll see you in the next one.
J20 vs f22 BVR
Lmao we need a Vid where 300 Greek Mirage's hold back a ridiculous amount of J-7's, F-1's, and Tupolev TU-2 bombers!!😂👍
I'm going to be the ultimate dog fighter just from these videos.
Why don't you take head on shots?
Why don't Jets have Rockets that shoot Backwards? or guns that can Swivl?🤔
Jester bailing out became a classic for everyone already 😂😂😂
Still wants to come home to his virtual family xD
God that "my name is Jeff!" Was sooo unexpected I frickin spewed my cereal across the table... thanks GS lol
Lol
Loving these 'bandit unknown' duels. Consistently shows a serious knowledge of your opposition's pro's/con's can be more important than what plane you have... or are up against! (Raptor possibly excluded? 😉)
The raptor is so stupidly good. It’s rare to beat one. I’ve gotten in my fair few fights with them in game, only won 3 times because the raptor pilot got over confident
A properly simulated Raptor is very easy to beat... It is called Time.
They are very screwed on operational percentage and apparently have a lot of rust issues as well, coupled with Lockheed's failed strongarming and missing subcontractors for the Raptor, all of these are factors that have set it up for an early retirement.
So if they had taken a few pages out of the lawbook for Right to Repair, they could have at least kept them around a bit longer, but more expensive on maintenance.
@@CMDRSweeper sad...
@@CMDRSweeper Yeah just survive the merge/dogfight with the Raptor for 20+ years and you’re golden, it’s that easy cmon guys
@@kevinwilliams3804 Provided it makes it to the merge...
A platform can be as fancy as it wants, but if it is hard to maintain, get parts for or keep up logistically, it is an useless war machine.
There is a reason why the old F-15 will stick around longer than the Raptor despite being a less capable airframe.
As a Frenchman, I'm so relieved by this after so much mirage bullying during the last videos
Les français qui jouent le mirage quand GS est juste derrière le Jeff ou le su 27 : MAIS TIRE SUR LE MANCHE
Your videos are honestly some of the best out there when it comes to DCS content. Been binge watching all of your videos and the quality of your videos just keep on improving
Thank you man I really appreciate it, always trying to make new/interesting stuff.
@@GrowlingSidewinder lol 300 movie parody--
300 Greek Mirage's VS a ridiculous amount of J-7's, F-1's, few F-5's, and Lots of Tupolev TU-2 Bombers!😂👍
That's why I love aircraft from the generation of the mirage. Much skill required, high payoff. I don't even play dcs I just love your videos and how you explain dogfighting
Man, this series is amazing. Can you do one in a Flanker? It would also be amazing to see the bandit unknown in a Su-57!
Yes sir, flanker bandit unknown is in the pipeline
@@GrowlingSidewinder F15 calls dibs next
There will probably be much disrespect from the flanker
@@GrowlingSidewinder Be nice to see you play ball in the good old 29 too. You have certainly honed your mig skills lately. It's not perfect, but certainly a pilot's plane.
How about bandit unknown BVR
This is such a good series. Just to show each plane can be extremely deadly in the hands of an experienced pilot.
Yet again Jester realizing his hourly wage doesn't pay for the bullets he's about to eat lol
Jester walking back to base...
Boss: 19 tomcats have been destroyed and 19 pilots have been killed. How come you are the only comes back in perfect health out of all of those missions?
Jester: ............... (looks around)
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Guess Im just lucky sir!
Much Love from Greece!
I think the Mirage is very underrated. In the hands of a skilled pilot it’s a deadly fighter. As you have just amply proven. That being said I don’t know how it is in BVR
yea the mirage can be a beast
Of course it is! Ask the Turks
In bvr ? Not great
Yes, the mirage can be very lethal in dogfight, in BVR it is good, I have tried it, but the 530 super is a missile with very short range in the game, it is also a semi-active radar guided missile, also called FOX-1 , so you have to keep the lock on the target all the time.
Just ask the Israelis and they'll tell you how good the mirage's are
Always an automatic thumb up for GS's channel(s). And Longshot's too.
Thanks Buddy much love
@@GrowlingSidewinder Thanks for all the cool vid's, my dude!
Great fights! Seems like the Mirage can be extremely capable in a dogfight against anything when it's flown correctly.
The "my name is Jeff" made me lose it.
you fly like a true HAF (Hellenic Air Force) pilot ;) Also, nice modelling of the Greek Mirage, dirty and gritty :D
Lol, as SOON as i saw the ejection in that second F14 fight - i knew Jester Had pulled the chicken handle.
Dude is a meat flare...
Excellent explanation of the offset two circle! Very enlightening, Also thank you for explaining how to counter, that would have been my next question. Keep up the great work.
F14s and jester ejecting, name a more iconic duo
Canada’s future fighter competition: F-35 vs Gripen-E
“My name is Jeff” caught me off guard.🤣good one GS.
GS in the mirage is an instant click from me!
"My name's Jeff"
Is no one gonna talk about that, "my name is Jeff" XD just so random coming from sidewinder it makes it funnier
Love the visual examples of the circles definitely would love so see that stay
Jester never fails to disappoint.
Might've already been mentioned by someone else - or you might even know anyway - but there's a switch under the HUD that'll give you a shoot cue with the Mirage too. I haven't tried it because I don't get to gun stuff that often, but it can pop up when they're part way down the snake.
"Ma name's Jeeeeffffff" Took me ALL the way out! hahahahaha
Jester saw who was flying the Mirage and said, Oh chit it's Growling Sidewinder. Next thing the pilot knew the canopy and Jester were gone.
Greek Mirage 2000C. AKA, the flying saganaki. 🇬🇷
Ok, fantastic debrief! Love your experience and how you give both perspectives from each plane… how to counter the two circle!!! Keep this up!
Jester loaded up his shorts when those rounds whizzed by and ejected. All that extra wind in the cockpit blew Cougar's kneepad papers everywhere. Great stuff GS. You're holding clinics up there.
Showing and demonstrating how the geometry of the fight works is absolutely fantastic
This is really interesting, because it is for you first. I laughed with you, not as you usually do when you shoot an adversary down, but when Jester pulled one on him. Love❤️
Late to this one since my cable modem decided to peace out like Jester did in this video. Crappy electrical infrastructure here and brown outs are as common as in Baghdad, Iraq. Another surge protector/battery back up got added to Santa's list because of it, they don't like power drops while in use and it degrades them quickly according to C/NET.
Anyway, I was thinking that describing the offset circle might be easier if you mention that it is done by doing a high or low Yo-Yo. Not sure if it is a term you are familiar with or if your education on the matter used a different term. Great mention of the offset circle cue, when you can see both canopy rails more than just momentarily, is how I'd describe that cue too.
honestly, I watch your videos while I'm eating breakfast everyday.
Love the demo of the offset 2 circle! That was awesome!
You cracked me up with Jester ejecting. Man that was hilarious
The Mirage's gunsight has hindsight logic. In an American or Russian plane, you shoot when the pipper is on the target. In the Mirage, you shoot before the pipper reaches the target, and if there's a bullet at the bandit's range when the pipper crosses him, THEN you'll hit. It's great for crossing snapshots, but basically impossible to get a tracking shot unless the other guy really cooperates. The pipper isn't really a sight, it's a range mark on a virtual line of tracers.
And people keep saying the Mirage can't do a rate fight, but now it's such a meme that no one even tries to hold corner speed. By the numbers, it will rate about as well as an Eagle or a Flanker. It's not a top-tier rate fighter like the Hornet or Tomcat, but it's not a MiG-21 either UNLESS you yank all your speed away. At 200 knots it really is a total dog; the high-alpha vortex state is a great feature of delta wings, but it's not the only regime they work in. Keep it between 350 and 400 and the other guy will have to really fly correctly to come around the circle on you. The Eagle guys have been learning to think like a Mirage, now the Mirage guys need to take a moment to think like an Eagle. They're not so different.
"My name's Jeff" never gets old. Hahaha. Love it!
"Hey, your stabilizer is gone!"
"Minor scratch!"
"Now your RIO ejected..."
"Just a flash wound!"
Lovely stuff! I was wondering how to fight in the Mirage against various planes and you just showcased it to perfection! Thanks, man! Great vid!
Awesome fight, one of the most impressive, honestly saying.
Two things I learned from this video:
1) if you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear a result of a thousand battles, if you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat, if you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle - from Sun Tzu's The Art of War
And 2) it is not always principal what airplanes of similar generation you are dogfighting with, it matters who are the pilots on both of them.
Than you for the great content, GS!
2:22 "how bizarre"....thank you GS! now i got this masterpiece by OMC stuck in my head :D
What I am learning from these videos is what I had heard from Iranian pilots of Iran-Iraq war: What matters the most is training, pilot's skill.
Got my hotas today and super excited to learn the flying dorito
This is perfect timing. I was hoping for a new mirage video.
One of my favourite channels on YT.
Might wanna put "Bandit unknown" in the title to keep up the 'series', great video!
Offset two circle, and not a plumbing video. Awesome.
jester doesnt trust his pilot lol
Dogfighting is so much more involved than I fist thought.
These videos are what keep me into dcs in between updates
Nice "What We Do in the Shadows" Reference! And as always your videos are awesome.
Your skills makes the Mirage a formidable enemy to face..... This was a very good video.
I would LOVE an “advanced maneuvers” tutorial on establishing the offset two-circle. First time I’ve ever seen it. Your diagram was helpful, as was the tacview but I’d love a mechanical breakdown from the cockpit of setting it up.
Would also be curious to see a breakdown of how to counter someone moving into the offset two-circle-if you’re willing to teach us how to kill you, that is.
Just got my VR headset on Black Friday, real excited to jump into DCS and IL2 with it!
Great, thanks for your helping hand, i learned a lot about fighting with the Mirage 2000
Pilot: "We got hit"
Jester: "Ok, i am out"
Man ... you're my hero! I have enthusiastically reviewed almost everything you have done on the topic of DCS in the past month and you really delighted me! I guess because of the shouted movie Top Gun and F-14 which really looks "dark" I intended to buy an F-14 module but I was scared of all that powerful electronics in the cabin so I was hesitant about Mirage 2000 and at the same time afraid that it would not be able to carries with competition, such as e.g. F-14 (I'm not sure about the F-16) but you convinced me that buying a Mirage is a good investment! Thank you for this excellent and instructive video.
You actually did it, you madman! If only the Mirage's gun had the dispersion to fill up that entire gun reticle... it still feels more like spray and pray than any sort of precision instrument IMO.
Also, thank you for showing how to fight against a *very* superior rate fighter with a Mirage; This was quite different to your usual gameplans, but still very enjoyable and interesting to watch.
Ive always heard about the offset but never knew how to start, let alone counter one. This brought my game to a new level.
Jester was like "Screw this I'm out!" LMAO
That Jester dude needs to be put up on charges.
I also giggle when Jester peace’s out…😂
Jester was like, "Daddy wasn't there, peace!"
Very cool! Not in my budget right now but I intend to have the gear to play soon. Until then I’ll just have to live vicariously through you and your skills Learning a lot can’t wait to play will be watching
Ya no rush man whenever you’ve got the funds DCS and the community will be here, hope to see you sooner rather than later.
I really love these videos where you don't exactly know what you're up against until you see them. That really makes it that much more interesting with those few moments of uncertainty on what to do.
dude that bassy sound as the tomcat flies past gs 0:54
that shot of jester ejecting lol, i got a good screenshot
I love the way you describe everything, every move! Thanks!
Jester be like: nah bro ima head out....
sadly he doesnt take the grippen against you...
That 21 Jump street reference made me choke on burrito! Lol well done sir.
You've been throwing down some mad skills lately. Maybe time to get an irl fighter pilot back on the channel?
Cracks me up when Jester nopes tf out. Hahaha
The tactic illustrative drawing is a great idea, I like to see it when you talk about rate fights etc ..
I’d like to see more of the 16
One of the best Growling videos in my opinion :D
Jester takes the term "out of plane" too literally.
Leaves his pilot driving a convertible with the top down (or rather, off).
Thanks for the offset TacView. Just what I asked for and explained very well. Appreciate it.
Good stuff thanks for education. Beautiful flicker. Keep em coming and good luck to you
I'm loving these "bandit unknown" videos!
Bandit unknown is my new favourite series on CZcams
Got to see some French Mirage 2000’s when I was stationed at Nellis AFB. I was surprised how small that aircraft is.
That's how I felt the first time I stood next to an F-16! After being around Tomcats it looked like a Honda Civic.
@@VisibilityFoggy yeah, I worked F-15’s, with a three year stint on F-4G Wild Weasels in between, for my whole Air Force career. Got to see just about every aircraft, including the MiG-31 and Su-27, up close. Even flew back seat on several occasions.
Very nice proof of concept tactics there and well explained in the Tac view recap.
By the way, as much as I like the "victory lap" after each kill I would prefer another close up view of the hits, your operatic dirge mourning the imminent death in slow -mo.
It's so choice I feel it might be your signature feature on this channel...don't think we are blase to it.
Thanks for posting Growly, another fine episode indeed.
Love from Greece
the abuse the dorito-14 can take is just impressive
man i just fought a mirage pilot tonight in dogfight server amazing pilot he gave me solid runs in a mirage and i was the bandit unkown my most sucess was in a su-27 and a mig 29 some how lol
I couldn’t click fast enough! I would love to see these 2v2 with unknown bandits
In round 5 the Tomcat’s RIO was very brave indeed😂
Man this is amazing - I don't even play the game and I cannot stop watching your videos
Mirage 👍
Yes
The unstoppable Greek Mirage! Lol we need a movie where 300 Greek Mirage's hold off a ridiculous amount of MIG's!😂👍
More like F-16s.
@@calimdonmorgul7206 it's a parody 300 Greek Mirage's lol like the movie 300 ;)
@@Anarchy_420 Which means you either need Iranian or Turkish opposition for that movie. Turkish F-16 sound most fitting.
@@calimdonmorgul7206 could be Russian as relations between Europe and Russia deteriorate, fictional fight, and who says it has to be a certain way? I was thinking a bunch of MIG-25's and MIG-31's Plus a good number of SU-25's for fun and perhaps a bunch of some older large bombers as well lol Prop bombers that shoot back!
@@Anarchy_420 ...
6:32 "MynameisJeff" 😂
Mirage on GS's hand is like a flying dream. I can see Longshot approaching on his Eurofighter tho, oh damn,
That offset 2 circle play is a great trick. I'll have to remember that for next time.
I am srsly in love with this bandit unknown series !!!
It's good to see one is competing with different fighters,need more like this
Brilliant flying!!👍👍
Excellent!!! only watched round one coz I've got work to do but i do love these unknown opposition vids, good job GS
As always, very impressive 👍