Gamo Swarm, Crosman, and Umarex Reviews & Comparisons
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2022
- Gamo and Crosman are real competitors, when it comes to gaining the greatest market share in the U.S. Unfortunately, I did not have the Crosman Multi-Fire for this review… versus a Crosman Trail break barrel with a wood stock. Perhaps in the months ahead, I can add that multi-shot rifle to the review. Nonetheless, the Trail has the same nitro piston and 20-inch barrel as the Crosman Multi-Fire. I also included an entry level PCP in this comparison for those who might be on the edge of moving into PCP air rifles. #gamo #crosman #airrifles
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I went from a crosman 760 pump master to a gamo wildcat whisper. And holy cow! These new air rifles are not toys! Couldn't be happier
Good to hear from you chaotic twig .... keep us in your air gun info loop... Dr. Russ
Awesome in depth videos! i just got the gamo maxxim swarm 10x gen 2 about 2 weeks and its been such a blast i can easily see myself owning a nice collection like yourself really appreciate your videos.
Slug muffin ... it is good to hear from you ... please keep us in your loop of air gun experiences ... Dr. Russ
Hey Dr. Russ, fun video. Ironic that your video filmed in T-shirt and sunshine comes out on this snowy, blustery and cloudy day here in SE Michigan.
Rudy
Brighton, MI
Yes Rick Hofess ... our Springs here in Michigan are teasers at best ...however, it looks like this weekend will be good ... we not only plan an offering of 100 T shirts and 100 caps in Military Green ... but also two AEA air gun give aways ... so stay tuned ... Dr. Russ
Nice video as usual , all the best on your merchandise sale ! Got my first green vervet kill from about 30 yards , very exciting . Again all the best and looking forward to another video 🙂
Good to hear from you Kevin ... and glad to hear from another air gun hunter ... please stay in touch... Dr. Russ
Dr. Russ Sir,
Me and my hubby loves your channel! When you going to have hats & shirts for sale! We love your videos! We’re in middle Ga! Come down!
It is good to hear from you.... and the more your spouse is involved ... the more she is interested in your air gun collection growing... at least it works that way for me... we are giving away a couple of AEA air guns in about 2 months ... stay tuned ... we just came back from a second trip to Ga. ... and Zachery Matthews provided these AEA guns for our drawing... Dr. Russ
I like the deal breaker list. Very cool
Good to hear from you again Anonymous ... the deal breaker list in my video reflected my own breaker list. Within minutes of launching it ... I received comments of other deal breakers of my viewers ... the first was that a number of air guns don't permit changing the bolt action over for use by a south paw ... which is obviously a big deal breaker for them ... so that video list of about 20 items has been expanded to about 40 ... and we have printed up the latter to be included for free in every T-Shirt or Cap order that will begin in about 2 weeks... I will likely provide another video within a year that may have as many as 50 deal breakers... Dr. Russ
Excellent video Dr. Russ and I love the new Merch!
Good to hear from you again Anthony ... we have two air guns to give away .... and some wearable s to sell... watch for details withing the next two weeks... Dr. Russ
As always Dr. Russ, great content and information. Love the new logo , it blends well with the army green. Love the T shirt and cap. Regards to Dr. Paula. Stay safe until the next video.
Thank you Jerome.... it is good to hear from you again... and Dr. Paula says "Hello " back... Dr. Russ
Another great. Video. Thanks!
Good to hear from you Rerun-Hunter ... Dr. Russ
I think the hats and the shirts look amazing along with the new logo
Thanks for the compliment Timmy Patrick.... we only printed up a hundred T shirts and a hundred caps ... and if they go well ... we will offer more in the future ... with different colors and different styles ... but that is still months away ... please stay in touch... Dr.Russ
well put together ... I loved the video
Port Royal ... good to hear from you ...and thanks for the compliment ... just finished a trip thru the Smoky Mountains and into Georgia .... where I met Zachery Matthews for the second time. He provided me with two air guns ... A Terminator and A Defender.... and since I don't take free guns ( they all expect a favorable review when you accept gifts) ... but he did agree that I could give it to those who comment to my videos ... so watch for the details on this pretty simple drawing during the next 30 days. Dr. Russ
Doctors Russ and Paula: Just found this great production this evening! You folks make a wonderful team and production! Thank you for upping this airgunner's airgun IQ at least a few points or more for every episode I watch! I doubt, however, that I'll ever catch up to you two! For example, reversing the pellet-shaped logo and slogan "Silent Sharp Shooter" on the front and back of the cap and vice versa on the t-shirt was marketing genius as was the choice of army green for color!
It is good to hear from you Michael ... and thanks for the compliment. We have some pretty good videos planned to start 2024... and hope they help you... Dr. Russ
Great show as always
Thanks for the compliment JAY and it is good to hear from you again... Dr. Russ
Good information. I have been looking forward to your next video.
Good to hear from you again Ed.... thanks for the compliment... Dr. Russ
Excellent review as always! T-shirt and Cap are awesome I will be purchasing both .....
Good to hear from you again Uinsionn 474....we produced 100 T shirts and 100 caps ... all in military green. Assuming they are received well ... we will produce more ... and in different colors ... and in different styles as fall and winter come... but that is still to be determined... thanks for your comments ... Dr. Russ
HELLO, NAMES JIM OR SALTYDAWG. IM 74 AND A AIR GUNNER. I JUST FOUND YOUR ADVENTURES ON CZcams AND ENJOYED THEM ALL AND HAVE A LOT MORE TO WATCH, I THINK I JUST DOT A NEW FREIND THANKS YOU MADE MY DAY.
Jim Heesy ... it is good to hear from you ... and yes you do have a new friend, who is Sept will be 4 years older than you.... Thanks for the compliment... Be sure to click onto the circular photo of me to access all of our channel of 80 videos... and enter a contest of ours for two large bore air guns ... it is about 4 launches ago...Stay in touch ... Dr. Russ
Interesting, entertaining and most useful review. Thanks !!
Good to hear from you Guillermo Hugo Cardnas... please stay in touch... Dr. Russ
Pretty interesting thank you for all the hard work
First State ... good to hear from you ... we try to show accurate comparisons of over 25 air guns that I have personally purchased... thanks for your compliment ... Dr. Russ
Dr. Russ, the doctor you can trust
Good to hear from you Allen Mason.... and thanks for an AEA Defender coming up in 2 months ... so stay tuned... Dr. Russ
Fantastic testing Dr. Russ and good merch with cool logo and wording 📸
Good to hear from you again Power Play 4 Real.... we hope you are well and enjoying this summer... Dr. Russ
Good video Doc
Thanks for the compliment Pa Airmen ... and it is good to hear from you ... we will be giving away some AEA guns within the next month ... so stay tuned... Dr. Russ
Will do
Hello there Dr Russ , an excellent video again . Your test shows that too much power in Springer isnt helpful, accuracy does suffer unfortunately. I like to run my precharged 22's at around 900fps. A 26 grain pellet at that speed gives me excellent accuracy and knockdown power out to 75 metres if needed. I take the majority of my shots at 50 metres .
I do like the phonebook test. 👍🏼👏🙂 . It does exactly what it needs to with clear results. Keep up the great work . The new logo, hats and t shirts look great. Well done. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸
rAlways good to hear from you Emay Russell .... and thanks for the compliment...We have an interesting lottery for two AEA air guns in 2 months... stay tuned...
Great idea to go green. Love it
Eric... good to hear from you ... Military green seems to be the same that President Zellinsky wears in Ukraine... We will be offering them soon ... and only had a hundred T Shirts and a hundred caps made... and if they go well ... we will have more made up ... and maybe more colors too... Dr. Russ
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All go green to support the President I like the guy.
This President do the best I can.
I admire that.
@@ericpage7799 I agree .... he might even win the U.S. presidential election if he could legally run for it.... Dr. Russ
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I would take a beer and go to war for a president leader like him.
@@ericpage7799 True ... me too.. Dr. Russ
Dr. Russ, please don't forget about us Canadians as I will want 3 t shirts and two hats. Really enjoy your channel sir. Will be waiting for the order information.
Randy .... no problem ... our neighbors to the north will be remembered and made available to our offering. ... Dr. Russ
Thank you so much,as we are often forgotten. Cheers!
The telephone book test is brilliant!
Ripper ... it is good to hear from you .... I've been criticized on this test 4 or 5 times, but I stand by this phone book test ... because it provides an accurate method of measuring ... and paper comes from wood... which can be in consistent with various knot holes, cracks, etc. My guess is that if this test doesn't prove that your particular air gun has the greatest penetration, then you criticize the method of the test. Just my guess. Dr. Russ
Continue to share your aventure whit us you are a great story tailler.
Good to hear from you Eric Page ... more videos and experiences to come... thanks for the compliment... Dr. Russ
Always love your videos, I own the Gamo Swarm Maxxim .22 cal, really wish i had bought the Magnum, but the Maxxim still hits pretty hard for a break bplus i love the 10 shot mag.
Dick from IL.
Rich ... it is good to hear from you ...and I am fortunate to own both ... my favorite is the Maxxim for several reasons... it is more accurate ... and it is noticeably more silent ... and it is easier and quicker to cock for that speed loader to shoot again... Dr Russ
THIS IS JIM AGAIN, IF I DONT GET TO YOUR BIRTHDAY PARTY IN TIME HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YA.
It is great to hear from you Jim heesy ... I just hope I make it too.... Dr. Russ
Hello there young man, I learned that the Gamo Magnums analogy is like stuffing a 500+hp Corvette motor into an OLD Chevette Michigan winter beater with compromising rigidity issues. 😆 Btw, exploding Easter eggs for next year's target practice comparison display?!😉✌️🇺🇲
Yukon Jack ... thanks for your own use of words ... which are pretty accurate.... and your egg idea is a good one that will be used in the future... Dr. Russ
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@@yukonjack. Yukon Jack ... yes I am familiar with that wine shop ... but not with anyone who may have bought a ticket there... good luck ....
Thank you for your service sir. Great Videos! Looking at buying a Gamo this week and wanted to see what your top 2 choices are based on any new releases. Primarily for squirrels and maybe some target shooting.
Kevin ... good to hear from you and thanks for the compliment....my first recommendation is to buy the larger caliber ... in Gamo ... that would be the 22 cal. Also look at the Fusion or the Maxxim... Dr. Russ
Are you going to do a review on the texen 45 caliber. I would really appreciate it if you would. Because I am thinking of buying one
Bill ... it is good to hear from you .... I am reviewing the AEA and I believe the Hatsan Pile Driver in 45 calabers over the next two months... I dont own an Air Force Texan or any other Air Force guns .... but will before the year is over. I believe you will find it very accurate ... probably due to their long barrels.. ... but also unavailable in a repeatable model.... Dr. Russ
Hi to you Dr. Russ and to Dr. Paula. Thank you for your service. I am new to air rifles and your channel and wondering if you would please recommend a CV Life scope for a 1st generation whisper in .177 and .22 ? Take care to you both and many thanks
Dr Russ, great session. I am wondering if you will have 4xl and 5xl shirts in your offerings? Depending on the quality of the product, I need either a 4xl or 5xl shirt. Also, my hats need to be on the large size. Keep up the great job that you and doctor Paula are doing.
John ... thanks for the note .... and let me say that currently with military green ... the largest T shirts we have are 2X... and we only have a hundred shirts and a hundred caps in this initial offer... If they go well ... we will do more ... perhaps in other colors and other types of clothing more suitable for Fall and Winter... I will get back to you when I know more... Dr. Russ
Wonderful data analysis, thank you as always. Curious to see differences in penetration depths from two guns shooting at approximately the same fps. How do we interpret that result? As a newbie to PCPs, ballistics has become a new learning objective. Would you have any guidance about shooting at extreme angle (up or down)? Thinking of squirrels high in trees well above 45degrees.
Good to hear from you Douglas .... My experience with shooting squirrels up into trees or deer down below you is that a range finder calculation would be wrong ... since it would indicate direct distance to the target.... the fact is that pellet or slug drop equates to linear gravity pull.... and so if a squirrel is 30 yards away and up ... you really need to discover the linear distance that gravity is pulling the pellet down... this could be determined if you were on the ground ... use the range from you to the base of the tree ... and not the high branches above.... in time ... and after a 1000 rounds ... you wont need a range finder and will be able to judge the distance with your eye sight.... Dr Russ
your elevation really knocks down the #s. Here @ sea-level the magnum really pops. Cheers sir fr Monterey cal.
Good to hear from you Julian Rodriguez ... and yes our altitude at 1000 feet above sea level ... plus our difference in humidity does make a difference... I hope you are enjoying your air guns... we will be giving 2 away in about 2 months.... stay tuned ... Dr. Russ
. Not sealevel.
I've got two Benjamin Durangos. Rite at a year now and I'm really happy with their performance.
Hey Dr. Russ!!!
As always, another great video! Thanks for the comparison between the break barrel platform and the entry PCP system.
Do you have any opinion of the Gamo Urban PCP vs. the Umarex Gauntlet PCP?
Thanks again.
Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
Ken ... thank you ... Dr. Russ
Only thing I will say, is every gun likes different style/brand of pellets. So some of the wider spreads on guns may be able to be mitigated with finding a pellet that the gun "likes". That can be true with max spread too to some extent. Also, pellet can vary slightly in weight even coming from the same tin. So without weighing the pellets or taking more shots, it is likely you may have more spread and flyers.
To make this as accurate as possible when comparing guns. Use 5 shot groups, multiple types of pellets, and weigh the pellets your going to shoot so you know there is no variation.
Great video as always.
Good to hear from you Anonymous ... Yes I don't pretend to duplicate a completely thorough and exact comparison.... I am fighting several issues when producing a video.... viewers often don't even watch longer videos ... especially if they go over 27 minutes .... and secondly if you have watched my two videos on pellets ... you will probably see that I have over hundreds of different pellet and slug tins.... and I am fully aware of different pellets ... with different weights... and diameters ... can do better... and while I didn't show 5 shot groups ... or different pellets in this video ... trust that I shoot thousands of pellets a week and my personal experience isnt much difference than the comparisons found in this video. Heavy JSB's are used in most videos and work the best ... particularly in break barrels ... I also add a thick lube to them ... which often makes up any diameter difference for velocity purposes.... again it is good to hear from you ... please stay in touch... Dr Russ
When you truly want to measure penetration, you have to use ballistics gel because this allows you to dump all the energy during the forming of the cavity (if this makes any sense) The gel will allow the pellet cavity to bulge during penetration while the pellet passes/tumbles/expands. it will allow the rifling of the barrel to do it's "trick". These are very important ingredients we have to take into account when we talk about penetration. When you use a phone book, you only dump all energy at once but it doesn't tell you much. I would love to see a comparison between your telephone book results and ballistics gel and see if there is any coherence ;-)
JBHK ,,,, it is good to hear from you and thanks for sharing your experience. My own experience has not been as accurate with gel powder ... as it has been with one phone book. Gel is suppose to duplicate the consistency of meat ... without hitting bone. . .. and there are differences in gels ... they are hand made with different brands of gel and different amounts of water ... by different shooters ... and at different temperatures. Secondly, it is almost impossible to determine the difference of penetration difference while two ... let alone five different pellets are in a single block of gel.... while phone book pages make a more accurate method of determining pellet penetration... nonetheless, I have found different phone books ... stored in different locations (basement versus attic) perhaps made from a different paper mill ... can produce different results. I have also found that when winning comparisons are made showing a pellet rifle that is owned by a viewer ... are often better received than when a viewer owns the other air gun .... Bottom line is that I own and have paid personally for over 25 AIR GUNS and I am trying to provide as fair a comparison as possible for those who havent bought either air gun.... Please shay in touch JBHK....Dr Russ
I think your taking this a bit far.. if both rifles are fired at the same phone books your getting a similar comparison.
Your acting like one is shit at a completely different material than the last, like it is a unfair comparison.
This is a even comparison, regardless of it being the comparison you desire.. it’s still fair.
If your want it fired at the same ballistic gells or meat.. I invite you to pay for the meat or gel. The RETIRED Dr would be more than happy to do that for you. But if you are not willing to pay for what you demand, the. I don’t think you have any foot to stand on demanding anything.
These tests are done for free for your consumption. He makes nothing off this. For you to demand he do something else without compensation is like demanding a contractor remodel your bathroom for free. It’s completely rediculous. You sound like an ass.
@@nsboost ... Thanks for your input ... we are reviewing the charts we had on that video and will make corrections if necessary... Dr. Russ
Great review and video Doc's, I remember a video you did about starting a business. Can you post the link for it? Thanks
Good to hear from you Mr. Dee.... I am traveling and don't have a link ... but consider going on CZcams and clicking onto my small circular photo to access our channel of 71 videos ... I believe the video you are looking for is approximately in the middle and the title reflects "changing your hobby into a profitable business" ...Keep us in your loop .... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula excellent and thank you will do.
Dr. Russ, what pellet was used in the tests? I have a Gamo maxxim gen 2 like yours. I have discovered after trying many different pellets and slugs that Zan .218 23gr slugs produce extremely tight groups at 25 yards in my gun.
It is good to hear from you Dow Hurst .... the pellet used in all of these air rifles was the JSB Heavy ...which you can get at Pyramid Air ... buy 3 and get the 4th for free.... don't forget to consider spraying them with Bullet lube at gun stores ... or chain wax found at motorcycle stores ... which is a thick oil that clings to pellets or slugs... and seals up any air leakage around the pellet as it goes down the barrel... then store your Maxxim barrel down so that any possible oil will drain out the front of the barrel onto a rag ... versus back down the barrel and into any mechanism where it can cause trouble... Dr. Russ
I have the gamo whisper in 22cl and it has a lot of power
Gary ... good to hear from you ... and I agree... Dr. Russ
Thanks. I use similar tests to see if my firearm is good for hunting.
It is good to hear from you James Locklear ... be sure to click onto the circular photo of me to access our channel of 80 videos.... and look back about 4 launches ago ... for a video with the word "Gift" to see how you can enter our drawing for two large bore air guns... Dr. Russ
Dr Russ
How to choose the write pellet for your air gun.
Hop to see than in one of your aventure.
Thx.
Eric ... If I had only one brand of pellets ... I would purchase JSB Heavies.... sprayed with a bullet lube.... otherwise, the expensive trial method is the only one I know... Dr. Russ
What pellet and grain, that's one of the most important. I see it's a 15g but what type. I like to know so I can compare chrony #s
Its good to hear from you Jon R.....The pellet I used for this video comparison was the JSB Match Exact Jumbo Heavy .... 18.13 gr. 22 cal .... 5.5 mm.... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula Awesome! Thank you very much, love your shooting setup btw.
Hello Dr Russ. As a newbie, your videos are very enlightning. I'd like to obtain a copy of your "deal breakers" list. Please tell me how to order. Thank you
Jimmy O ... it is good to hear from you and thanks for the compliment. Click onto the small circle photo of me and access our channel of 80 videos.... about 4 launches before this one is a video with the name "Gifts" in it ... and there you will find how to enter our drawing for two large bore air guns ... also visit our video with the word "rattlesnakes" in it ... about 2 launches ago ... and you will find out how to get one of the new and improved "deal breakers" list with over 70 listed items. Thanks for writing .. Dr. Russ
Thanks Dr Russ , interesting study.
The Gamo Whisper and Crosman Trail have velocity of 644 & 645 fps. I’m going to call that the same.
The same pellets were used for the experiment.
So same velocity, same pellet mass = same momentum when the pellet leaves the barrel.
Why then the difference in penetration?
The Crosman penetrated the phone book about 33% deeper than the Gamo, each with the same momentum.
Any physicists watching?
Stevo ... it is good to hear from you ... good points ... I dont have an answer other than one of the air rifles isnt consistent ... I will repeat this exercise and try to find an answer.... Dr. Russ
I was wondering the same thing👍
Hi Dr. Russ. Would you say that the magnum could be more accurate in the grouping if you shot a heavier pellet?
Absolutely .... Dr Russ
merci pour cette très bonne vidéo je ne parle pas anglais je m excuse je suis en France et j ai 76 ans je suis comme on dit chez nous un pépé très cordialement un papy de Normandie !!
Jean Pierre BOUXIN ... it is great to hear from you and thanks for the compliments ... Please stay in touch... Dr Russ
Nice test. One possible problem I saw with putting the muzzle against the phone book to fire is building front pressure as the pellet goes down the barrel like a piston. The pellets might have penetrated further. Other than that everything looked good. 🙂
Bruceallen ... it is good to hear from you ... I have heard this point before ... but the tests didn't change when I placed the barrel at different distances ... in fact ... the phone books did a great job of measuring the exact number of pages of penetration. Dr. Russ
I have springers that shoot more consistently and more accurately than your test guns and they are 80’s and 90’s classics.
However it’s good to see that you should avoid nasty gamo garbage!
Andy ... it is good to hear from you... my experience has been that springers and break barrels are reasonable accurate between 35 and 50 yards ... while PCP's accuracy ... particularly with a regulator can go out to a hundred and 150 yards. Please keep us in your loop... Dr. Rus
I would have thought the Whisper and Maxim with about the same velocity, would have about the same penetration shooting the same pellets?
Good to hear from you Jon Neet .... yes and let me add that they all used the same pellet too ... but their penetration is different ... at least into the same phone book... we have a contest for 2 new air guns ... watch for the next video coming out in the next 48 hours... Dr. Russ
I'm having trouble justifying a PCP, as my application would be an SHTF scenario. Is there ANY pumping option, in an SHTF, that you would consider?
The attention seems to go to break-barrel rifles, but are they accurate enough?
I eagerly await that new Seneca multi-pump rifle; but there are no reviews yet; are the Crosman 392 & 397 good enough, in your opinion?
Please feel free to comment.
The issue I have with this video is that the best pellet for each gun (for accuracy) was not performed.
tkarlmann ... it is good to hear from you ... and yes those two Crosmans (392 and 397) are very good and accurate air rifles.... and as long as they are meeting your needs, I would not upgrade into PCP ... those rifles are really for those who need to shoot and hunt very accurately beyond 50 yards. Dr. Russ
Hey russ I have been waiting for months now I thought you were going to shoot the aea Big Bore air rifles for accuracy for us all to be able to see I quit using break barrel guns a long time ago
Don ... I havent forgotten my promise to provide a number of videos once Michigan got some good outdoor weather ... which presently comes and goes....as most Spring seasons bring, The good news is that I will provide video reviews of a number of AEA air rifles .... 72 caliber .... 50 caliber ... and a Hatsan 45 caliber ... most important is that we will be giving our viewers a drawing opportunity to win an AEA Terminator in 30 caliber and an AEA Defender Pistol in 35 caliber about a month from now... Dr. Russ
Hi again Dr. Russ, I was wondering if a suppressor takes away from the power of your gun or does it preform as the gun was intended. Thanks! Love your channel!
James ... it is good to hear from you again ... suppressors do not take away power ... however, you usually have to make a few adjustments to your scope or iron sights as the point of aim has been known to change... Dr. Russ
Can anyone give me some good suggestions for .177 pellet guns? For plinking and varmints alike.
Chuck ... it is good to hear from you ... and there are a number of air rifles that could help you ...and budget is important in giving you a good answer as well as availability in your area. Consider shooting only the heaviest of 177 pellets because speeds over 900 will not be accurate. Heavier pellets will keep your pellets closer to the sweet spot of 800 to 900 feet per second. Increasing your caliber size to 22 would be helpful to accuracy ... and don't believe that they make the noise or shoot a mile like 22 rim fire powder bullets do. Secondly, the length of the barrel is important to accuracy as well ... and try to get a barrel that is at least 19.5 inches long. Lastly, know that few if any come with a quality scope... so include in your budget a good scope made for air guns.... Consider a refurbished CP (Center Point) or Hatsan at Fieldsupply.com. Gamo and Crosman are pretty good with service ... so consider them in your selection process.... Your selection process will include Springers ... Break Barrels ... and PCP's. Springers especially, but Break Barrels too require that you shoot using the "Artillery Position"... so watch a few videos on the Artillery Position. PCP's require an air source from a hand pump to Scuba tanks to compressors ... and while you gain accuracy, particularly if those air guns include a regulator ... they add to the cost. Consider Umarex Gauntlet or Air Venturi Avenger as good entry level guns for this decision. Keep us in your loop of air gun experiences... Dr. Russ
Hello Dr.Russ what scope are you using on your Gamo Break Barrel?
gta1458 ... my choice of scopes has changed from year to year looking for the best scope for the money. Break Barrels require shorter scopes versus long and are useful ... particularly if you shoot at targets... In some cases, you might even prefer a red dot if you are a hunter because of the rapid movement destructive critters make ... both before and after the shot. Currently, I have found an excellent scope value at CVLife.com .... where they have several scopes including a shorter one with a laser and a red dot attached to the scope for about $100. If you put "Russ15" at the end of the order ... you get another 15% off of that price. Other shorter scopes ... all high quality ... cost about half of that. I believe I demonstrate those in several of my last videos... just click onto the small photo of me to access our channel of over 100 CZcams Videos.... and review the last few. I recommend that you consider going thru that library and watching two that have the word "Accuracy" in the name ... to truly maximize your ability to shoot small groups into the bullseye. Let us know how you do. Dr. Russ
Hey Dr. Russ, nice video and cool swag. Curious if you might be able assist me with figuring out if a person needs a special license to sell air rifles / guns in Michigan, as in being an independent dealer.
I've been researching it and haven't found anything indicating so, but want to find out. And if you don't know, who would you suggest contacting?
Thanks
Jerry ... it is good to hear from you ... be careful opening up any retail store ... since 90% never make it to the 10th year.... Often you delete your savings and capital inventoring the wrong inventory. Consider an internet based store first... which you are going to need with a retail store anyway. Your inventory should be based upon some research of friends, and public to see if they want your brand of products anyway. An internet firm is less costly to start. You can request any type of business from your local city clerk ... (name of your business) and the state for sales tax collection ... then begin to check the manufacturing brands you want ... they may tell you that they already have too many dealers in your area ... and if you are accepted, they will advise you of the size orders and the product that must be included in that order... which may or may not be the brand and product you learned that your local area was prepared to buy. Otherwise.... go slowly ... negotiate with any info you learn from key suppliers... ie ... you will not be including their springer rifles ... but you will meet their other requirements ... also check you competition... for example if they have a lot of feedback on brand A ...but not a lot of feed back on brand B.... lastly, and this is a catch 22 ... but you need the passion for air rifles to make it ... but you wont be able to shoot as much... once you open your business... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula Hey Dr. Russ, thank you for a very thorough and well thought answer.
A lot of great advice and insight.
At this point, I'm not anywhere near getting ready to do it, but it's something I'm curious about. So truly appreciate you taking the time to reply.
Also, my AEA Terminator 2nd Gen .357 showed up yesterday and I shot it today. Didn't sight it in, just threw a Sig Sauer R5 on to get familiar with it and I gotta say, I love it. Put some ceramic targets out and 30 yds and had a blast.
Will keep you posted on my progress with the T2/357. Thanks again for all you do for this community.
Also, get some sun this weekend, supposed to get some nice weather here in SE Michigan.
@@jerrykovis5417 I am working my way home from Georgia Today and Saturday from AEA Zach Matthews ... who has given me an AEA Terminator in 30 caliber which we will give away to our viewers in a month or two... along with an AEA Defender pistol in 35 caliber.... I still have to work out the details but ... both are beautiful guns and the chances are way below other contests. Watch for details....
Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula sounds like a nice road trip with some worthy stops along the way. i purchased my Terminator from Bin (Sig Shooter) and love it, plus Bin has been providing excellent customer service.
And lucky you, and future contest winner, on scoring a couple of AEA products. I'm definitely interested in hearing more about the contest.
Really interested in watching your review of AEA Defender Pistol .35.
I went a little over budget with my entry set-up in to the PCP world, so gonna wait a little while before my next PCP purchase, but The Defender is in my sites.
Safe travels and look forward to your next video.
- Jerry
OK! Now for serious. My first modern AR was a Compessco under lever. Then Beeman QB78. Then Benji. same as the one here. Then I crossed over to the dark side Gauntlet .22. Many since then. But my all time fav is. Benji .22 Prod. Shoots lights out, with H&N FTT.
Thanks Robert.... it is good to hear from you ... and thanks for keeping us in your air gun info loop... Dr. Russ
I kept listening for you to say what pellet weight you are using.
You did say that it's on the heavy side. How heavy?
Inquiring minds want to know.
John ... it is good to hear from you ... each gun is different ... but overall, I have found the JSB brand to be made of a soft lead that allows the skirt to open and seal well into the barrel rifling. I produced this video several years ago, so I can only guess that I was shooting JSB Kings or Heavy ... Dr. Russ
I would like a secound look at the stoeger x 50 comparison , I own this gun , the spring broke in half, and the barrel broke in half, in only two years, but have repaied the gun, seems to be a good accurate rifle now . would like to here your thoughts
Zoo ... I dont own a Stoeger ....nor had one in any of our videos... a friend of mine does and tells me it is a good shooter. Stoeger's main business is powder guns and the few times I have talked to them, that is where their focus is. Springs are easy to replace and can be stronger or weaker than originals. Broken barrels is an area I have not dealt with. Evidently you got a barrel and spring to repair your air gun ... and it is now a great shooter. Congratulations. Dr. Russ
@@russjones6497Hi and thankyou for your reply
@@zoo123324 Good to hear from you again... Dr Russ
What type of scope is on your Benjamin cross man? Thanks!
James ... I have had that air gun and scope for a long time and not sure where I got it... however, I currently buy scopes at Fieldsupply.com .... where they have probably 15 Hatsan and Crosman scopes available at half price.... refurbished. I like the CP (Center Point by Crosman) and they have 2 to chose from at approximately $40 and $60 ... buy the $60 one if you are a hunter... Dr. Russ
You’re the man! Thanks Dr. Russ!
20: 07. Two different guns taken from the assembly line in tandom might shoot two different pellets, of different weights, most accurately. So I make the comment to some videos that their accuracy test was not fair to the manufacturer nor the potential customers.
Senator Joseph McCarthy ... good point ... especially on lower to mid priced air guns. This is due to barrel differences and poor manufacturing controls on the parts of lower and mid priced air guns. Much of this can be helped by shooting lubed and heavy pellets ... in an effort to to seal any air space down the barrel and to bring the velocity down to a sweet spot of 775 to 975 fps. Fortunately, I shoot hundreds if not thousands of pellets a week ( a thousand a week when I was in competition) and do my best to provide good, usable air gun info in our videos. Dr. Russ
It would be interesting to measure the velocity a function of shot number.
The velocity seems to be slower on the first shot and then increases, like the spring is warming up.
cyberphox1 ... you have a good point. Velocity changes dramatically based upon what lubricant you use and pellet or slug. I plan to do another video on this subject when I determine all of the facts... Thanks for writing ... Dr. Russ
@@russjones6497 thank you and great videos. You have such a nice yard, perfect for air rifles. When I was a kid I had a BSA meteor break barrel and iron sights and would go pigeon hunting all day in the bush. Loads of fun.
@@cyberphox1 It is good to hear from you ... please stay in touch... Dr. Russ
Newbie to the channel here. Great information!
Does Dr Russ remind anyone else of Jonathan Winters, or is it just me? I keep expecting him to break into a joke told in a crazy voice, or something! ;-)
Daves Repair Company ... good to hear from you ... even though this reply is 5 months late... just found it.... glad you are enjoying our videos ... even with Jonathan Winters.... Dr. Russ
Dr. Russ, can I still order a hat?
We still have hats and a few T shirts in different sizes.... Dr Russ
Which one of the break barrel do u like best?
Von Fields ... its good to hear from you.... and you have asked a tough question. I like the Magnum the least and I own it along with all of the Swarm rifles except the Fusion ... The Magnum's velocity is higher than the sweet spot and Its difficult to find a pellet heavy enough to get that air rifle's velocity down into the sweet spot for accuracy of 775 and 975 fps. The Maxxim Swarm is my favorite in 22 caliber... because it is light and shoots very nice tight groups ... I recently purchased the "Bone Collectors" Gamo rifle which appears to be the Maxxim with a wood stock. ... but havent tested it yet.... but is heavier than the regular Maxxim with a polyurethane stock... Be sure to check out our most recent video because it provides details on winning two AEA air rifles .... The Semi Auto Terminator in 30 caliber and the Defender in 357 caliber.... Both were checked out for accuracy by Zack Matthews .... Dr. Russ
Where do U find telephone book?? Or did U line some smart phones???
Robert ... they still distribute them in our area ... and I also find them in racks for no charge in grocery stores... Dr. Russ
So if i can find a squirrel reading a phone book hes mine.
Easily Southernshaker ... maybe even without the phone book ... thanks for sharing .. Dr. Russ
My crosman venom nitro piston sounds like a .22 rifle , and especially after a drop of Pelloil in chamber . Always scares me when air rifle goes bang ! Overall it’s not a very quiet rifle !
It is good to hear from you Kevin Close ... I know that rifle and I know that sound... Dieseling your pellets with oil is just another way to increase that sound. Consider sitting a cardboard box or some other large containment product at the far end of your shooting bench ... around that barrel end to help keep the noise down and remain backyard friendly with your neighbors ...Dr. Russ
Me agrado
Thank you Noel Guerrero ... it is good to hear from you ... Dr. Russ
Dr . No sound ....
Sorry Pedro Cruz ... and it is good to hear from you again.... I will bring this issue up with my producer ... though the problem maybe at the Google connection ... who owns CZcams Videos... Dr. Russ
U have a leupold scope on that Crosman?! 😂
Jimmy Large ... it is good to hear from you ... I have a half dozen scopes on my air guns ... but the best value I am finding today is CP (Center Point from Crosman) and my source is Fieldsupply.com where Crosman sells their refurbished scopes at more than half off. They have two there that are great values... the come to you looking like new for about $49 and $59 dollars. Consider the more expensive one if you also plan to hunt in low light. You will also find new and refurbished Hatsan scopes ... and for the most part ... this is where you will find a scope much better than those that come on a gun for free.... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula oh no I run all leupold scopes on my rifles and one red dot handgun. I have two vortex scopes as well which I would claim is one of the best value of the buck optics with an awesome warranty. I don’t have any air guns tho. I was givin u props for a leupold on a cross an air gun 😂
@@jimmylarge1148 Thanks ... please stay in touch.. Dr. Russ
Well this video just ended my subscription to your channel! "Deal Breaker"
Sorry to hear that Bright Lights EDC. Dr. Russ
Two objections:
1. Three pellets are not enough to objectively estimate max. spread - at least, there should've been five. 2. Penetration test wasn't done properly, because different guns were shooting under different angles. This is very clearly shown by numbers of the pierced pages - no other reason for the guns with pretty much same velocities (Whisper/Maxim/Trail) to differ that much. This test should've been made from a distance of about one yard. And, by Jove, how could you forget to show us the PELLET?! At least, you should've reported it's weight...
I totally agree with you , the guy is weak in knowledge, he keeps mentioning gamo having 20 inch barrel, where in reality gamo has 14.5 inch barrel length, the rest is plastic shroud
@@paulkarkorian6377 I think he is referring to Crosman's model (the one with a wooden stock) since it's reminding him of the Benjamin he had had long time ago. He also says that "Gamo has a 20 inch model too" (but not specifically among those included in the tests). Problem is: he speaks a lot, jumping from one topic to another so, instead of being more streamlined and concise, he is a bit confusing... In another video - a comparison of different Swarm flavors - he talks about differences between models COMPLETELY FORGETTING to warn people of the fact that only "Fusion" is equipped with "open sights", which represents it's major (if not the only) difference to other Swarms...
Yes , that’s right.
However we do thank him for the videos.
@@paulkarkorian6377 Of course.
It is good to hear from you Tor Tojed and Paul Karkorian .... I am in N. Carolina now but will remeasure those Swarm air rifles when I get back in home ... to determine the exact length ... I was using the JSB Heavy in all of the air rifles in this test ... and if you see my two videos on pellets ... you will see that I have at least 50 different types of pellets ... and shoot over 500 rounds per week. We have learned that videos over 27 minutes are often not watched by viewers ... so we only used 3 shots ... however ... the tests reflected many many tests that were not in this video. My goal is to provide as fair a comparison air guns as possible... There are many other issues that can cause differences in penetration, but I don't believe a slightly different angle shooting into the same phone book would be a reason ... Algebra calculations show very tiny differences in this video ... For example, barrels and their crowns can and do slow pellets down... particularly if they are not leaded in evenly ..nonetheless... I attempted to show a fair comparison between these air rifles.... Dr. Russ
I was going to buy one of Ur hats, but I bought a "lets go Brandon" instead.
humorous .... Dr. Russ
You Didn’t show jus how deep the pellets went into the phone book! Did u use deep penetrating pellets?? I think this test was a complete waste of time it didn’t prove anything
Mr. Sinister ... it is good to hear from you ... even though we don't agree. After 77 CZcams Videos ... and age 76 ... lying isn't in my nature... Counting the pages in the phone book provides an exact penetration answer... which I did share ...however, my producer does cut almost half of each video taping ... because no one would watch if our videos were an hour long... so he cuts our videos to the point that 3384 people have watched this one as of this moment.. I trust him ...... Often, viewers get upset when a review doesn't show their air gun to be the best of them all ... sorry if that is what our review did for you .... perhaps you will be happier watching other videos that want to sell your particular gun to everyone...
@@drsrussandpaula I understand the editing n stuff n the time limit but I didn’t find this video informative jus that each each rifle shoots different with different pellets n that I already kno..
@@mr.sinister1279 Correct ... but viewers wouldn't trust the test if different pellets were used in different air guns ... So I used a pellet that is often the best in any gun ... along with a slight covering of lube to maximize the seal on all tested air guns... sorry it didn't prove anything to you ... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula ok
Now here's what I'd like to see with that pcp. Take say about 150 shots and let's so what the velocity, Penetration and standard deviation is. Because it's nothing but a air tank with a barrel strapped to it hence making never consistent very long and completely reliant on a specific air compressor! F$%#ing pointless if you ask me! Now take 150 shots, hell make it 1500 with a break action and let's see how the compare!
4 bears ... I think it might be easier since you feel very strong about the subject ... that you put together your own videos ... and if that doesn't have the number of subscribers that you want ... then I suggest that you put together a team of people who have read the over million viewer comments that you have received .... and who then want to help you plan your future videos.... keeping them as short as possible ... so that viewers will even want to see them ... Good luck ... Dr. Russ.
How not to wear a hat lol
I don't want to sound rude. But not everyone wears a flat brim hat. And this dude seen more war time then you do on your game console