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  • @stevenjones4953
    @stevenjones4953 Před 3 lety +87

    Anyone else get PBS flashbacks when he says "This show and episodes like this are possible thanks to viewers like you."

    • @zacharycrownover1833
      @zacharycrownover1833 Před 3 lety +4

      I find myself saying it out loud every time lol

    • @IzzysIssues
      @IzzysIssues Před 3 lety +3

      My brain fills in the notes of the "Arthur" theme song during that part of every episode

    • @samurai2157
      @samurai2157 Před 3 lety +3

      I say a little “thank you!” In my head whenever I hear that

    • @crosshroomhead
      @crosshroomhead Před 3 lety +1

      Literally every time

    • @themagicgeek4765
      @themagicgeek4765 Před 3 lety

      @@samurai2157 honestly, same haha

  • @andrewfernandes7104
    @andrewfernandes7104 Před 3 lety +44

    Aetherflux Reservoir seems like a good choice for this stormy deck. It triggers off any spell cast, but since casting instants and sorceries does cause it to trigger, Veyran gives you double triggers for those specifically. The lifegain can give some much-needed survivability, and its a wincon of its own.

    • @anderquirey
      @anderquirey Před 2 lety

      Agreed. I put it in my budget veyran as soon as I could.

    • @metricarea7546
      @metricarea7546 Před rokem

      Ouch!

    • @moocowp4970
      @moocowp4970 Před měsícem

      @@anderquirey in your budget one? maybe it was cheaper 2 years ago, it's showing as around $16 for me :/ not very budget haha

    • @anderquirey
      @anderquirey Před měsícem

      @@moocowp4970 well, some prices differ. When I played it it was like 7 euros

  • @Crunchatize_Me_Senpai
    @Crunchatize_Me_Senpai Před 3 lety +15

    This commander is one of the most fun ones I’ve ever played with, but do be warned, it can take some really long turns, and be very overwhelming to pilot with all the triggers you end up keeping track of. Especially if you’re using Swarm Intelligence or, god help you, Thousand-Year Storm. And if you’ve got Magecraft cards on top of that....whew. Good luck.
    I’d recommend goldfishing it a few times before you take it out in public, just so you have an idea of what you need to keep track of. Still an extremely fun deck.

    • @anderquirey
      @anderquirey Před 2 lety

      I played it in a budget event with minor tweaks. Absolutely bombastic

  • @MajinRaviel
    @MajinRaviel Před 3 lety +22

    I started building this commander last monday, have the cards all over the table trying to pick out what to do, hope this gives me some ideas 😄

    • @anderquirey
      @anderquirey Před 2 lety +1

      Psst. Aria of flame. Imagine doing 20-30 damage instant speed

  • @-L__7
    @-L__7 Před 3 lety +6

    Just finished putting this together myself, so many fun cards you can use here with the new set / decks that finally let Izzet shine without a 3rd color.

  • @ChristianRazef
    @ChristianRazef Před 3 lety +24

    Dayum, I literally ordered a similar decklist yesterday, and I've missed some cards you suggested here. Guess I'll have to order some more cards

    • @vivianm1851
      @vivianm1851 Před 3 lety +1

      I made a similar deck when krark/sakashima came out and have added half of these cards lol

    • @nudelsuppe3dsemmelknodel990
      @nudelsuppe3dsemmelknodel990 Před 3 lety

      Dayum, I literally ordered a decklist yesterday, and I've missed all cards you suggested here. Guess I'll have to order some more cards.

    • @vivianm1851
      @vivianm1851 Před 3 lety

      Zada beamsplitter and mirror dragon are pretty good in this deck too (especially if you have heatshimmer and twinflame.)

    • @Alphadog2064
      @Alphadog2064 Před 3 lety +1

      i might be too late but make sure you get aetherflux reservoir if youve got the budget, itll be doubled by veyran most of the time and its generally beneficial

    • @ChristianRazef
      @ChristianRazef Před 3 lety

      @@Alphadog2064 yess it was on my previous list already, it's super strong even alone, combine with veyran it can do some nasty stuff

  • @Sonicron86
    @Sonicron86 Před 3 lety +9

    That looks sooo incredibly fun, Mitch! I'm not the best at piloting spells decks, but this makes me want to sling 'em regardless. Thanks for the cool tech! :)

  • @mauriciomonsalvespino2214

    I'm so happy I found this channel. Mitch, you da man

  • @darylwren501
    @darylwren501 Před 3 lety +1

    Built this deck at the start of the week; using most of these cards, but a few in there I didn't know of.
    Thanks for some suggestions moving forwards

  • @moxdonalds925
    @moxdonalds925 Před 3 lety +5

    I really like using Haze of Rage in my Veyran deck. When I have tons of tokens from the spell cast triggers, having a spell that pumps their power with buyback and storm is a great finisher

    • @broadcast7183
      @broadcast7183 Před 3 lety

      I was wondering if anyone noticed this card!

  • @MetalPheonix
    @MetalPheonix Před 3 lety +10

    Twinning Staff, Thousand Year Storm, Aria of Flame, Djinn Illuminatus, and Firemind's Research seem like they belong here as well.

    • @thrasherftw
      @thrasherftw Před 3 lety

      A little clunky but djinn illuminatus with birgi can make spells like shock or lightning bolt infinite.

    • @christiansandrini96
      @christiansandrini96 Před 2 lety +1

      I tried playing it with TYS and eye of the storm and at some point it just gets too much and you and your friends spend 5 minutes every time you cast a sorcery to count the copies and the game gets boring very quickly

  • @gabelankford5521
    @gabelankford5521 Před 3 lety +1

    Just finished up ordering the remainder of mine. Can’t wait to play it in its full potential!!

  • @theoriginalwolfey5173
    @theoriginalwolfey5173 Před 3 lety +26

    I thought people said Teysa and Yarok were pushed when they came out? This is like if Yarok also had an etb for other creatures.

    • @jackstansfield7571
      @jackstansfield7571 Před 3 lety

      Teysa is pushed, she has an ability slapped on just to add even more synergy with a separate theme

    • @theoriginalwolfey5173
      @theoriginalwolfey5173 Před 3 lety

      @@jackstansfield7571 oh you mean like giving magecraft to a card that doubles instant and sorcery cast triggers? She gives tokens vigilance. If she had something like when a creature dies make a token then I would say they are the same.

  • @samuellarose7357
    @samuellarose7357 Před 3 lety +6

    Sweet, love the deck idea!

  • @Carolyn510
    @Carolyn510 Před 3 lety

    Thanks, Mitch. Have the precon and I am upgrading. Great suggestions.

  • @ArkaosMotovlogs
    @ArkaosMotovlogs Před 3 lety +1

    Just finished my Veyran deck and very excited to play it for the first time in person this Friday! First time for table Mtg in too long.

  • @RaunienTheFirst
    @RaunienTheFirst Před 3 lety +2

    Past in Flames? In a budget deck? What a time to be alive!

  • @dinnahgod8349
    @dinnahgod8349 Před 3 lety

    You definitely gave me ideas. Thank you!

  • @alanthepyro
    @alanthepyro Před 3 lety +1

    I love Veyren. My wincon is to copy Mana Geyser or Brass's Bounty for a ton of mana, then shoot every one at the table with Jaya's Immolating Inferno. Man it feels sooo good

  • @TsunamiTDMK
    @TsunamiTDMK Před 3 lety

    Some cool cards i found that work with her also are 1 red mana cantrips that give trample until end of turn. Helps with taking out individual players with how fast she can grow from spell slinging. Also things like fling work well too.

  • @TheEtherspark
    @TheEtherspark Před 3 lety

    One of only two strix commanders I was excited for. I already built mine. It’s interesting to see the similarities and differences. I saw some spells here I may want to add to mine! Couple of suggestions I would make, haze of rage is a must. It’s a two mana sorcery with buyback AND storm! Paired with storm kiln artist it generates infinite mana and infinite storm, with or without veyran on the field. I also really like geometric nexus and altar of dementia for the deck. For all the spells you’ll be casting (and your opponents too), you’ll be able to generate really big blockers with nexus that you can then sac to the altar when you don’t need them, to make opponents mill obscene amounts of cards.

  • @zacheryredden5417
    @zacheryredden5417 Před 3 lety +51

    I feel like the true difficulty with Veyran is going to be keeping them alive. “Literally everything I do is copied” is an ability I don’t want to just let happen haha

    • @ChronoBolt
      @ChronoBolt Před 3 lety +7

      I have her in my Mizzix deck. People like Veryan less than they like mizzix. Which is saying something lol

    • @bluedog4248
      @bluedog4248 Před 3 lety +3

      If I find Veyran is getting targeted I'll just switch it out with Melak. No one expects the library plays

    • @ChronoBolt
      @ChronoBolt Před 3 lety +3

      @@bluedog4248 melek is actually where my mizzix deck started from. I love the guy to death, but he's so pricey in a color scheme that doesn't do great with lasting ramp

    • @MattyG2787
      @MattyG2787 Před 3 lety

      They need a straight up kill spell though cause damage is pointless

    • @LoxeBi
      @LoxeBi Před 3 lety +1

      Curators ward is a budget consideration, and there's swiftfoot boots and Lightning greaves. Also, instants and sorceries like dive down help tons. Cheap, 1-turn hexproof cards could replace a lot of the cantrips if you don't struggle with card draw, which I don't imagine you would with this deck.

  • @reillocb
    @reillocb Před 3 lety +6

    If I had a gumball for every time mitch said scry's just card selection I could afford wayfarer's bauble lol

  • @ChrisPhelior
    @ChrisPhelior Před 3 lety +1

    I was thinking of transitioning my old Riku deck to a Veyran one to focus more on copying spells, looks like I found myself some inspiration.

  • @bluedog4248
    @bluedog4248 Před 3 lety +1

    Literally built my Veyran deck earlier and the stuff is coming tomorrow

  • @JoJoMcFarley
    @JoJoMcFarley Před 3 lety +1

    So I've been playtesting and tweaking this deck a lot recently, and I've come to a couple of really good budget options that you can add.
    First off is the Blistercoil Weird + Paradise Mantle combo, with Veyran out, you get 2 mana from blistercoil for every spell you cast, and it gets +2/+2 until end of turn, which means you have yet another creature that you can make unblockable to hit for a ton on the turns where you can 1 shot someone with commander damage, as well as another mana generating combo.
    Second, is the addition of Collected Conjuring. This card is a beast. Once you have anything out that copies your spells you're almost always going to get a hit with it, and generate value.
    Third, I would ditch everflowing chalice and/or sphere of suns for something like Thought Vessel. Thought vessel in this deck is properly insane.
    Fourth, is the addition of Metallurgic Summonings. This card is incredibly budget friendly and an absolute powerhouse in this deck.
    Finally, if you're willing to "break the bank", there's obvious staples such as Fierce Guardianship, Force of Negation/Will, Imperial Recruiterk Mystical Tutor and Gamble. Or, if you want to break the bank without going crazy, you can add a few "reasonable upgrades" such as Leyline of Anticipation, Merchant's Scroll, Ral Storm Conduit, Flusterstorm and possibly remand (i'm not sold on remand yet, but it's a consideration). And of course there's the obvious upgrades to the landbase with shocks and fetches, but do those really even need any mention?

  • @EntheogenShaman
    @EntheogenShaman Před 3 lety +1

    I made a Veyran deck recently by just combining my Zada and Orvar decks, plus Krark and Sakashima. It's absolutely nuts.

  • @augustmenard5835
    @augustmenard5835 Před 3 měsíci

    I am late to this, but Docent of Perfection is an amazing addition to this deck since itll give 2 1/1 Wizard tokens on every spell cast and then after you control 3 of them, it gives all of your wizards +2/+1 and flying (including nontoken Wizards like Veyran)

  • @brain_maggot6286
    @brain_maggot6286 Před 3 lety +1

    I've built a Veyran Deck that uses Zada to generate more copies of the spells I cast and Ovar to copy my Wincons like Guttersnipe.

  • @fromdesk
    @fromdesk Před 3 lety +2

    I’ve built the deck more token centric and it really can go crazy. Especially with Zada! That guy is really an mvp in the deck and you could consider him as my secret commander.

  • @deanohoff
    @deanohoff Před 3 lety +21

    Read my mind, Im currently building a Veyran deck!

    • @bradycurtis668
      @bradycurtis668 Před 3 lety

      Same

    • @georgeakoury7915
      @georgeakoury7915 Před 3 lety

      Veyran is so cool! Built him right away

    • @chancestetson3608
      @chancestetson3608 Před 3 lety +2

      I built one, get ready for the most insane 1 hour long, mind melting turns ever. Copying an aminatou augery like 5 times and then using an overloaded mizzix mastery the same turn, my turn was an hour and a half resolving triggers.

    • @bradycurtis668
      @bradycurtis668 Před 3 lety +1

      @@chancestetson3608 sounds like exactly what I want

    • @chancestetson3608
      @chancestetson3608 Před 3 lety

      @@bradycurtis668 krark, twinning staff, melek, birgi, guttersnipe, the war of the spark ral zerek. Are some of the cards i use

  • @ggiangiulio6
    @ggiangiulio6 Před 2 lety +1

    some good cards for this deck are thousand year storm,harmonic prodigy,melek izzet paragon,jin-gitaxias progress tyrant,saheeli sublime artificer,ral storm conduit,mizzix mastery,mizzix of izmagnus,jaya ballard,manaform hellkite,aetherflux reservoir,socerer class,rowan scholar of sparks,chandra torch of defiance,vadrick astral archmage and niv mizzet parun

  • @mrrodgers0
    @mrrodgers0 Před 3 lety +2

    Don't forget that Veyran also doubles the Storm keyword trigger. (EDIT: I was wrong. Veyran's replacement effect only applies to permanents)

    • @Alphadog2064
      @Alphadog2064 Před 3 lety

      no it doesnt, it only doubles triggers of permanents

    • @mrrodgers0
      @mrrodgers0 Před 3 lety

      @@Alphadog2064 You're right. Just re-read the card.

  • @DKMonsieur
    @DKMonsieur Před 3 lety

    Putting together a Veyran deck myself. It focuses on going wide with Talrand, Young Pyromancer and simular cards. Basically janky locust god, and very fun :)

  • @harleybaker4684
    @harleybaker4684 Před 3 lety

    I’m building a veyran deck, but also, Kaza, Roil Chaser wizard tribal deck with veyran as a secret Second commander. Can’t wait to see both go off

  • @xerralordfemboy3663
    @xerralordfemboy3663 Před 3 lety

    Already made veyran 2 weeks ago its awesome, I plan on buying a thousand year storm for the veyran is my first spell slinger/storm deck

  • @axyzmementomemoir3725
    @axyzmementomemoir3725 Před 3 lety

    I've never played commander before but i do plan on building one especially if the conditions in our locality gets better. Whe that happens, this will be the first deck i'll build 😁

  • @ajmcbride7639
    @ajmcbride7639 Před 3 lety

    Shark typhoon seems like a great card in this deck, so does turnabout letting you untap all your lands to general a ton of mana for an expansion// explosion win. There's some great izzet x spells to like electro dominance, epic experiment. I'm making a list right now and I ultimately cut graoehsot because I wasn't going toward the more stormy version more of a control burn build built around abusing veyrans ability

  • @Digstreak
    @Digstreak Před 3 lety

    I have an Veyran deck, and while I opted for not getting the storm package, my deck has some really cool alternative win cons. It's more focused on the token generation and swarming capabilities of the deck, as well as drawing and discarding cards. For win conditions, besides just the normal token damage, I have things like strixhaven stadium, mizzix's mastery, surge to victory (I LOVE THIS CARD) and time stretch (I almost never cast this from hand, it's either used through mizzix's mastery or surge to victory. I also opted to run the highest amount of cantrips that target so I can use orvar and zada as well, and those two can also be pretty strong win cons, ou at least help me get easier to my other win cons.

  • @ODedonlife
    @ODedonlife Před 3 lety +3

    Ral, Storm Conduit. Everyone always forgets poor Ral. Sad day.

    • @luizgustavoferreiracandido1297
      @luizgustavoferreiracandido1297 Před 3 lety +1

      Ral + any 2 copy spells = gg

    • @ODedonlife
      @ODedonlife Před 3 lety

      @@luizgustavoferreiracandido1297 even easier, Ral's -2 can copy the copy spell so only 1 copy spell is needed.

    • @luizgustavoferreiracandido1297
      @luizgustavoferreiracandido1297 Před 3 lety

      @@ODedonlife the problem of Ral's ability is that it says: "the next spell". So, there's no way you have to copy a Copy Spell. This text is confusing hahaha

    • @ODedonlife
      @ODedonlife Před 3 lety +1

      @@luizgustavoferreiracandido1297 oh, right, I forgot the condition of the original spell needing a spell to copy or it gets removed from the stack as a state-based effect making the copied copy spell have no legal target either. I hate that bit.

  • @bardic1852
    @bardic1852 Před 3 lety

    Built this last week and every card shown was in my deck. Sakashima of a thousand faces copying Veyran is game winning plays. Love this deck very much!

  • @Nyronus
    @Nyronus Před 3 lety +2

    Got to play my Veyran deck for the first time after building before the precons even released. It ended up being a pretty grindy game with a boardwipe dropping every few turns. Then the Codie player stole my Veyran with Tempted by the Oriq and I said "fuck it" - cast the Mizzix's Mastery Overloaded, bounced Veyran to my hand with an spell in my gaveyard, stormed off, drew cards like mad, generated mana like mad, replayed him, and wiped the table with Thousand Year Storm into Explosion, X = 7, with a Instant and Sorcery storm count of 12, resulting in 175 damage split 3 ways.
    In other words, it worked like intended.

  • @yaza862
    @yaza862 Před 3 lety +1

    Niv-mizzet parun is a really good card in this deck and a win condition as well without even using the usual niv mizzet combos like curiosity. Also Aetherflux reservoir is awesome in here and despite not being that budget friendly it's also easy to fit in

  • @necro6471
    @necro6471 Před 3 lety +1

    I ran veyran as a cantrip deck just constantly popping off with storm-kiln artist or birgi

  • @ProphetofEndTimes
    @ProphetofEndTimes Před 3 lety

    There is also a good argument for changing the commander to Elsha of the Infinite to splash white for a few cards. Jeskai Ascendancy, feather (if you find a lot of spells target your own creatures.leading to possible inclusions like Orvar.) The jeskai ultimatum. Various Narsets. Firesong and sunspeaker. choice white instant and sorcery staples, some room for unique interaction in white that AREN'T staples.

  • @FozzyFUCT
    @FozzyFUCT Před 3 lety

    I just switched the Kaza commander with this one and added a few of the precon cards to juice it up.

  • @kirbyball97
    @kirbyball97 Před 3 lety +1

    I could also see the prismari dragon being used in here for the extra mana from artifacts.

    • @michael-anthonypetruccelli5501
      @michael-anthonypetruccelli5501 Před 3 lety

      Synergies very well with the storm kiln card (makes treasures when you cast instant/sorcerers)

    • @kirbyball97
      @kirbyball97 Před 3 lety

      @@michael-anthonypetruccelli5501 that's the plan, I used that on mtga several times.

  • @michaelnaramore9310
    @michaelnaramore9310 Před 3 lety

    Funny enough just finished building my veyran deck. I did some different things like using Zada and mirrorwing dragon with a bunch of combat trick cards like fist of flames , slip through space, etc thought it was a fun take since if you play enough spells veyran can litterally just execute player after player. I also leaned more into tokens with empty the warrens to either help draw cards ,or give me an army to stop anyone. The deck goes fast though so I put in elixir of Immortality to help reset the deck if I draw too much.

    • @evilArvor
      @evilArvor Před 3 lety

      I suggest including 'Break Through the Line' if you're not already running it.

  • @jdoom1345
    @jdoom1345 Před 3 lety +1

    I immediately built a deck with her after getting the Prismari precon. I won my first game with her by casting Brass Bounty over and over again (thanks to Krark) and creating 2 7/7 fractal tokens (thanks to Deeka) for each cast/copy of that spell, then used that mana to cast expedite over and over again with Krark's effect to give them all haste. It was just disgusting lol

  • @GinjaNinja-qy6nj
    @GinjaNinja-qy6nj Před 3 lety

    A little higher in price combo is Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal + Sol Ring + Guttersnipe. Don't even need veyran on the field, but be sure to have some counter spells ready!

  • @TheRetroViking
    @TheRetroViking Před 2 lety

    10:00 - Sadly, (i say that because i had the same idea) only spells you cast will trigger firebrand, electrostatic field and guttersnipe ... So even if you copy your spell 8 times they will only trigger once. This is the main difference with Magecraft which triggers even on copied spells ....

  • @Civera89
    @Civera89 Před 3 lety

    I built a less than budget friendly Veyran deck shortly after release. It’s so fun. My only issue is I now want to add black and run Kess as the Commander. Might be too CEDH though :(

  • @nicholashowie5829
    @nicholashowie5829 Před 3 lety

    fury storm is really good here, if you've played Veyran once fury storm can be cast in response to any instant or sorcery and have the copy of fury storm cony the original and vice versa, getting infinite magecraft triggers, so infinite p/t on veyran, infinite 4/4 fractals w/ deekah and infinite treasures w/ storm-kilin.

  • @maradri03gaming9
    @maradri03gaming9 Před 3 lety +1

    I added lab maniac and seagate restoration. if swarm intelligence is on the field with Veyran, it will win you the game most of the time

  • @DiabloMatrix968
    @DiabloMatrix968 Před 3 lety

    Nice video , I like veyren a lot , just to note your upgraded deck link is for beledros witherbloom not veyren

  • @michelemichienzi934
    @michelemichienzi934 Před 3 lety

    Finally a Commander that justify playing gelectrode, i've missed you little buddy

  • @kvistegaard
    @kvistegaard Před 3 lety +3

    Upgraded version shows Beledros :P Great video otherwise, I have all the cards in my Khalamax sideboard so that's great :D

  • @peepeekaakaa
    @peepeekaakaa Před 3 lety +1

    The link to the upgraded version leads you to the witherbloom deck 😁

  • @nickelcyanide9611
    @nickelcyanide9611 Před 3 lety

    Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir looks good as an addition so that your opponents can't respond. Mizzix Mastery also looks absurd with this deck. Then add some graveyard to library shufflers and you'll be almost unkillable (this part is a suggestion if games would take so long to finish).

  • @izakvisser5610
    @izakvisser5610 Před 3 lety

    I would just like to clarify, well if you have just Veryan on the battlefield it doubles* but if you copy Veryan it will only net you 2 additional triggers.

  • @snorp4203
    @snorp4203 Před 3 lety

    I think my favorite card to put with Veyran is Zada, Hedron Grinder. Because it essentially makes two copies of whatever spell you target with Zada and targets your other creatures. And those copies do trigger Veyran. Get those two out with Talrand or Young Pyromancer, cast a Shadow Rift or Slip Through Space and some other spells, your opponent is toast.

  • @necrogenesis1981
    @necrogenesis1981 Před 3 lety

    I'm building a Kykar token deck and this guy could probably fit right in.

  • @aarontanner2524
    @aarontanner2524 Před 3 lety

    I built slightly differently. A couple Izzet Weirds untap on cast of Instants and Sorceries. Add Paradise Mantle, and your mana grows even faster

  • @zalmute423
    @zalmute423 Před 3 lety

    I'm working on a storm rootha but I think I'll tear it down to build this...

  • @eliashibberson6623
    @eliashibberson6623 Před 3 lety

    Lol I built a veyran deck for a friend and he copped it instantly

  • @MrGeebee1983
    @MrGeebee1983 Před 3 lety

    I would love to put some wheels in this deck like Windfall or Valakut Awakening.

  • @Hombre944
    @Hombre944 Před rokem

    I like to Storm-King's Thunder Molten Psyche 😁

  • @MrThomasCWest
    @MrThomasCWest Před 3 lety

    My version of the deck is a bit on the "Break The Bank" side.
    Veyran, Voice Of Duality
    Adeliz, The Cinderwind
    Melek, Izzet Paragon
    Naru Meha, Master Wizard
    Deekah, Fractal Theorist
    Octavia, Living Thesis
    Talrand, Sky Summoner
    Birgi, God Of Storytelling/Harnfel, Horn Of Bounty
    Murmuring Mystic
    Charmbreaker Devils
    Guttersnipe
    Dualcaster Mage
    Runaway Steam-Kin
    Storm-Kiln Artist
    Goblin Electromancer
    Helm Of The Host
    Pyromancer's Goggles
    Metallurgic Summonings
    Reconnaissance Mission
    Xenograft
    Swarm Intelligence
    Sunbird's Invocarion
    Thousand-Year Storm
    Reminisce
    Quasiduplicate
    Mind's Desire
    Mind Sculpt
    Relentless Advance
    Replication Technique
    Tezzeret's Gambit
    Callous Dismissal
    Tamiyo's Epiphany
    Stealth Mission
    Maddening Cacophony
    Brass's Bounty
    Gravitic Punch
    Thud
    Honor The God-Pharaoh
    Forbidden Friendship
    Sizzle
    Doublecast
    Dragon Fodder
    Krenko's Command
    Call The Skybreaker
    Elemental Masterpiece
    Devious Cover-Up
    Lazotep Plating
    Blue Sun's Zenith
    Mission Briefing
    Stern Dismissal
    Mystic Reflection
    Whirlwind Denial
    Regress
    Memory Drain
    Opportunity
    Didn't Say Please
    Brain Freeze
    Thought Collapse
    Learn From The Past
    Increasing Vengeance
    Goblin Wizardry
    Fling
    Overblaze
    Tibalt's Trickery
    Scour From Existance
    Opal Palace
    Swiftwater Cliffs
    Izzet Guildgate
    Shivan Reef
    Temple Of Epiphany
    15 Island
    15 Mountain
    The idea is to beat my opponents down with massive amounts of creature tokens or mill them to death.
    Helm Of The Host is in the deck because I am a filthy degenerate that likes to make copies of my Commander for extra triggers.
    I intentionally left out Omniscience because that would make the deck insanely overpowered, though it would be fun. (The truth is that I only have 2 of them and they are both in other storm deck variants.)
    Tibalt's Trickery and Mind's Desire are both phenomenal cards in this deck. Build up a good storm count with Thousand-Year Storm, cast a cheap spell, then counter it with Trickery and you have a good boost to your storm count. Then, if you have enough mana left over, cast Mind's Desire and you can essentially play your whole deck two or three times in one go. Its just as enthusiastic as a Jodah Storm deck.

  • @cody3281
    @cody3281 Před 2 lety

    I think with krark if the first flip returns the spell, the second lip can't copy it right?

  • @fixituplefty3730
    @fixituplefty3730 Před 3 lety

    I would like to point out that metalcraft requires the creature’s controller to control 3 artifacts before the ability triggers. Also I think that As Fortold would be a good include as you can cast your first spell for free.
    Edit: overall this looks like a lot of fun for a non deterministic storm deck

  • @LeekDavis613
    @LeekDavis613 Před 3 lety +1

    What about the ral zarek from war of the spark who pings opponnents whenever you cast or copy sn instant o sorcery, while also being able to copy spells

    • @Alphadog2064
      @Alphadog2064 Před 3 lety +1

      its not even in the upgraded list, maybe he just didnt see it or even realize it was a thing

  • @ALegendaryStory
    @ALegendaryStory Před 3 lety +1

    I made this as a commander deck last week. My turns take 10 mins and one of the members in my group got upset at me for my turn taking so long. Mind you im still new to the deck. And i didnt make it anything near completive. The said person said its to hardcore. I explained I have alot of room to work on this deck and I could add extra turns and copy them and be an ass. But yeah. Everyone in my group likes it expect that one person.
    Side note-- I dont think he liked being milled 21 cards with a wheel a card. (got to copy that spell twice. )I think that set him off even more. Also Adding Niv Mizzet Parun

  • @ades4646
    @ades4646 Před 3 lety

    Kind of unrelated to this specific deck, but do you have any video on how to build a budget mana base for some color combinations? Like 2-color, 3-color, 4-color and 5-colr budget mana bases templates, which dual lands are good, which fetch lands, how many, that sort of thing? I am curious as to how you approach this when building budget decks :)

  • @SuperCred1t
    @SuperCred1t Před 3 lety

    If you can give her trample and do instant/sorcery based voltron to boost her stupidly fast for giant swings

  • @DarthVader-wl4mx
    @DarthVader-wl4mx Před 3 lety +2

    I think shark typhoon would be a great card in this deck

  • @cinaedpv
    @cinaedpv Před 3 lety

    Runaway Steam-Kin and Firemind’s Research both get double the counters. Runaway Steam-Kin can lead to lots of extra mana that is stored. Firemind’s Research builds counters fast. You can remove 2 counters to either draw a card or remove 5 counters to do 5 damage to any target. You will build those counters fast. They are also both budget. Steam-kin is about a $1 and Firemind’s Research is about 50 cents.

  • @NoNo-qt4ov
    @NoNo-qt4ov Před 2 lety

    Hopefully he can do an update on this or with the new spell slinging commander in Innastrad with the new cards that set brings

  • @DylanCEdh
    @DylanCEdh Před 3 lety

    Imagine getting all this stuff on the board and getting an extra turn spell to resolve

  • @adam6727
    @adam6727 Před 3 lety +3

    So this channel has completely foregone the whole budget thing at this point?

    • @ectoBiologist21
      @ectoBiologist21 Před 3 lety +1

      What? This list was and still is perfectly budget? Some of the cards went up because people want to play veyran. Cards for Osgir will also go up a lot in the future because he is the most popular Strixhaven Commander.

  • @smokin8194
    @smokin8194 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow no shoutout to Ral from war of the spark? That is perfect in this deck! I’m offended good sir lol

    • @Crunchatize_Me_Senpai
      @Crunchatize_Me_Senpai Před 3 lety

      Ehh, the fact that its trigger targets one opponent makes it pretty weak compared to the ones that hit all opponents. The -2 is pretty deece, though, even if you can only use it twice.

    • @smokin8194
      @smokin8194 Před 3 lety

      @@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai I mean you’re not wrong, it’s not the best but it would be doubled up using the commanders ability. That also adds a little political value in the deck when you are storming off and copying a ton of spells that then with him out. Plus if you are storming off with him out, you could realistically hit everybody with that ability and still be in good shape.

    • @Crunchatize_Me_Senpai
      @Crunchatize_Me_Senpai Před 3 lety +1

      @@smokin8194 Storming off should win you the game, so I don’t think you really want politics in that situation when the alternative is just burning everyone out. But you’re right, he’s still worth considering for the deck. Having him out while you don’t have the all-opponents ones is better than nothing. And like I said, the ability to copy a spell or two is pretty good.

  • @LittleBigDutton
    @LittleBigDutton Před 3 lety

    So how would the Djinn Illuminatus and pact of the titan combo be in this? Seems like the perfect fit to me unless there’s something I don’t see

    • @evaman0182
      @evaman0182 Před 3 lety +1

      So long as you have gutter snipe or a similar damage dealer that's just an instant win.... u less some has like flusterstorm or whirlwind denial

  • @CaptainBeardsome
    @CaptainBeardsome Před rokem

    Why is Apex of Power not mentioned?
    I had Veyran and Swarm Intelligence out when I played Apex and I literally played 18 spells in one turn!
    It was glorious!

  • @alejandroguerra1409
    @alejandroguerra1409 Před 3 lety +1

    So I know it's an expensive enchantment but Thousand Year Storm sounds nuts in this deck.

    • @Crunchatize_Me_Senpai
      @Crunchatize_Me_Senpai Před 3 lety +1

      It is, absolutely. Especially with the number of Magecraft cards in an average Veyran deck. It honestly gets to be a nightmare to keep track of everything if you have several of those out with TYS.

  • @kirbyball97
    @kirbyball97 Před 3 lety

    I love these types of commanders. But if I don't have ramp in my decks. I will get screwed lmao

  • @cteal2018
    @cteal2018 Před 3 lety

    I wanna see vayran in my vial smasher/ sakashima deck

  • @AngelGuillermoGutierrez

    i feel like veyran would be insane in a competitive vadrok deck

  • @jbroderick9083
    @jbroderick9083 Před 3 lety +1

    You left out Metallurgic Summonings and maybe Shark Typhoon. Sure they cost more, but not dying to the board wipe that clears away your tokens matters a lot. Also the Summonings can restock your hand late game. To that effect I think you should consider Past in Flames for access to the graveyard, and maybe even Mizzix Mastery.
    Im building a Dragon's Approach version of Veyran, with no dragons. Three damage to all my opponents over and over again and copied to hell and back until they all die!

  • @NoobN00b
    @NoobN00b Před 3 lety

    How about an all white boarder deck. I was considering making one for the hell of it.

  • @sivis3766
    @sivis3766 Před 3 lety

    What happened to thousand year storm if a spell is casted i gets X amount of copies times 2

  • @brandonre5949
    @brandonre5949 Před 3 lety

    Nivix cyclops is really good with her he gets +6/+0 every instant or sorcery cast and he can hit like a truck

  • @Leivve
    @Leivve Před 3 lety +1

    Actually had to take out Archmage Emeritus out of my deck because it's not a may ability, so his trigger basically limits my ability to storm out and kill people cause I'll deck myself first

  • @Zendrig
    @Zendrig Před 3 lety

    I put her in my Mizzix deck. Now they can take turns being the commander.

  • @evaman0182
    @evaman0182 Před 3 lety +1

    I have the prismari commander deck with veryn in it.... it can get very complicated keeping up with all the triggers and your turn can take a long time to finish. Also people will go out of their way to kill Veryn so have some kind of protection for her

  • @josephtarmey6020
    @josephtarmey6020 Před 2 lety

    Thousand year storm

  • @samhaddad4440
    @samhaddad4440 Před 3 lety

    I'm surprised you didn't include Crackle With Power in the list since it can just pick off all of your opponents

  • @mileslewis4921
    @mileslewis4921 Před 3 lety +1

    What about the wonderful shark typhoon?

  • @BravoSierraHotel
    @BravoSierraHotel Před 3 lety +2

    Are you going to make a MH2 reprint prediction video? I've got a good feeling about wayfarers bauble :)

  • @revelmonger
    @revelmonger Před 3 lety

    As fun as this commander is. You can throw in krark and sakashima into the 99 and sub them in as commanders to up the power level. Since veyran works in the 98 of that deck as well.

  • @ajdugan8142
    @ajdugan8142 Před 2 lety

    He might have to make an update to this deck now that harmonic prodigy is a thing along with any other cards from MH2. Nothing like getting 4 triggers off of your spells when you have veyran and harmonic prodigy out at the same time

  • @ernestlam5632
    @ernestlam5632 Před 3 lety

    Soul-Scar Mage makes all that pinging damage done to creatures -1/-1 counters.

    • @ernestlam5632
      @ernestlam5632 Před 3 lety +1

      Soulblade Djinn gives all your creatures "prowess" giving all your creatures +1/+1 till end of turn.

    • @ernestlam5632
      @ernestlam5632 Před 3 lety

      Sprite Dragon, +1/+1 counter from ever non-creature spell.

    • @ernestlam5632
      @ernestlam5632 Před 3 lety

      Twining Staff

    • @ernestlam5632
      @ernestlam5632 Před 3 lety

      Expressive Iteration