How To Reconcile Qadar & Free Will? | Hamza Tzortzis & Mohammed Hijab
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- How To Reconcile Qadar & Free Will? By Hamza Tzortzis & Mohammed Hijab
how to reconcile predestination and free will in islam. If Everything is Written What About Free Will? How do I have free will if my destiny is already written? Do We Have Free Will or Are We Predetermined? Do Human Beings really have Free Will? If everything is Pre-destined why do anything?
The concept of Freewill and predetermination in Islam. Free Will vs. Predestination. concept of free will in islam. Is Everything We Do Predestined Or Do We Have Free Will. hat is Predestination/Fate/Qadr?. Is My Life Pre-Destined? Free Will and Destiny.
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I put forward my understanding, and please comment if you see it fit (or not).
I understood the issue of pre-destination (Qadr) in the following manner: Allah has written what will happen in so much detail, that He wrote the various paths of the human will/preference, its clashes, its intersections, its complex ramifications and their results.
Then he gave man that power of will, but limited, which in turn depends on the existence of God Almighty first and on His will for us to want what we want when we want.
If God wants to stop everything, we will cease to exist, let alone our non-absolute will. (The evidence for this is that the heavens are greater in creation, and the birds are more free, but God holds them by His laws, and His will, as He said in the Qur’an. So this much is true regarding greater and more free creations, therefore, we are held and constrained by God's willing and we depend on Him)
God knows what we will want to do, and He created the will and created the physical and non-physical laws and causal limits to which our will is limited. Sometimes, he would even make incidents happen with or without known causal chains, to see how we would react and choose to do.
Our will is free, but God has meticulously designed our freedom and our willing capabilities to such a large degree that we might end up in Hell or to Heaven with our own choices, but also to such a small degree that we do not deviate from God’s will, causal set limits, and knowledge in all the paths and outcomes of events.
Allah has said to his prophet, while teaching us as well that our will is fully dependent on God's will ( And you threw not, [O Muhammad], when you threw, but it was Allah who threw, that He might test the believers with a good test. )
I find that my understanding encompasses all problems and I do not find that any analogy is needed. Because, God is the source of our will, and he pre-ordained some causal, physical and metaphysical limits/laws of a hypothetical circle, in which we can play freely with our will. But God's is the holder of that circle and limits/laws. We are free to choose, but God, by giving us this ability to choose, limited by the aforementioned laws, He DETERMINED our circle, not our will, He determined the laws and incidents, but not our will.
Ibn Qayyim's example resembles my understanding, but Hijab hasn't built on it further and only said that even this analogy is flawed. I wish he had said more.
“There are advantages of knowing you can’t control things. And there are advantages of knowing you can control things.” This was powerful.
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Thats the reason when Prophet.pbuh has been asked about Rooh, Allah replied in Al-Isra' - "And they ask you about the Rooh. Say: The Rooh is one of the commands of my Lord, and you are not given aught of knowledge but a little."
And then people want to speak on Allah's Attributes without knowledge. May Allah protect us!
Ayat for Asharis: Qur'an 16 : 74 - So put not forward similitudes for Allah (Like Asharis on Siffat Qabrriya - don't assume resemblance). Truly! Allah knows and you know not. (Leave how / Takyif to Allah - don't Tahrif / reinterpret Allah's Attributes)
Qur'an 7 : 33 - Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "(But) the things that my Lord has indeed forbidden are Al-Fawahish (great evil sins and every kind of lewdness) whether committed openly or secretly, sins (of all kinds), unrighteous oppression, joining partners (in worship) with Allah for which He has given *no authority, and saying things about Allah of which you have no knowledge."*
(Don't speak on Allah's attributes with out texts or no Tahrif / Distortion)
Qur'an 16 : 60 - For those who believe not in the Hereafter is an evil description, and for Allah is the highest description. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
- Links Allah's High description with the belief in hereafter, Jahmi Asharis tatil/denial of affirming Allah's High Descriptions seems linked to their denying seeing Allah which is in the hereafter - Qur'an 75 : 22!
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So 4 points (The 4 T's) in Islam we affirms Allah's Names and Attributes without, Tasbih or resemblance, Takyif or inquiry or Tahrif or reinterpretation or Tatil or denial.
Qur'an 7 : 180 - And (all) the Most Beautiful Names belong to Allah , so call on Him by them, and leave the company of those who belie or deny (or utter impious speech against) His Names. They will be requited for what they used to do.
Beauty of Athari is the ghaib is fully defined and stable, where to Asharis it's incomplete and not only didn't study Qur'an but leave the entire religion open to reinterpret with no or much less basis of unity as the Iman or faith in the ghaib/unseen is the uniting base or pillars of practicing Islam.
Qur'an 6 : 50 - Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "I don't tell you that with me are the treasures of Allah, *nor (that) I know the Unseen;* nor I tell you that I am an angel. *I but follow what is revealed to me."* Say: "Are the blind and the one who sees equal? Will you not then take thought?"
This verse refutes pseudo sufi and shi'a who say Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings on him is made of light or knows the ghaib or Asharis think they can do Ijtihad on the ghaib regarding Allah's siffat - However Allah's Siffat is defined in Qur'an.
And that's a proof of his prophethood for me. You know why? Because a false Prophet would have tried to answer that with any made up answer to prove to the people that he knows everything but our Prophet (pbuh) didn't do that.
@@saiftalpur7 Yes brother very good observation you have made. Even when we study the seerah we see the Prophet ﷺ encountering situations where he could have easily made a statement and label it as a revelation for personal gains, but he never did so which shows that he was a true Prophet of God.
This is beautifully answered from 13:22 to 13:55
Freewill and responsibility go together. We are under Allah's will too.
A favorite hadith where this is shown is the King who tried to grab Sara, he didn't fight his own nafs and did an act of evil, though he had enough intellect to know its wrong but him being under Allah's will had his hand frozen and unable to grab Sara.
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A) Allah created evil for what purpose?
Qur'an 29 : 1. Alif Lammm Mimmm
2. Do the people think that they will be left to say, "We believe" and they will not be tried?
3. But We have certainly tried those before them, and Allah will surely make evident those who are truthful, and He will surely make evident the liars.
B) Do we have our own free will and how do we know?
Adam referred to the Qadr as an excuse for his sin of eating from the tree and wasn't blamed.
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ peace and blessings on him) as saying:
There was an argument between Adam and Moses. Moses said: Are you that Adam whose lapse caused you to get out of Paradise? Adam said to him: Are you that Moses whom Allah selected for His Messengership, for His conversation and you blame me for an affair which had been ordained for me before I was created? This is how Adam came the better of Moses.
- Sahih Muslim 2652d, Book of Divine Ordainment
While devil is blameworthy.
Qur'an 7 : 16 - [Satan] said, "Because You have put me in error, I will surely sit in wait for them on Your straight path.
18. [Allah] said, "Get out of Paradise, reproached and expelled. Whoever follows you among them - I will surely fill Hell with you, all together."
Why is this the case? It was Adam who repented affirming responsibility and his free will!
Qur'an 7 : 19 - And "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat from wherever you will but do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers."
... 22. And their Lord called to them, "Did I not forbid you from that tree and tell you that Satan is to you a clear enemy?"
23 - They said, "Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers."
C) How do we observe freewill in creation?
Ali ibn Abi Talib reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The pen is lifted from three people: a sleeping person until he awakens, a child until he becomes an adult, and an insane person until he regains his sanity.”
- Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1423, The Book on Legal Punishments
This refutes sects Qadriya who Deny Allah's knowledge of creation's actions before it happens and Jabriya who say Allah forces His creation as we witness many levels of freewill.
D) Why does things that seem bad occur?
i) It can be to return to righteousness.
Qur'an 30 : 41 - Corruption has appeared throughout the land and sea by what the hands of people have earned so He may let them taste part of what they have done that perhaps they will return [to righteousness].
ii) An affairs may appear evil outwardly though Allah knows the unseen of what could occur.
Ubayy b. Ka'b reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) said:
The young man whom Khadir killed was a non-believer by his very nature and had he survived he would have involved his parents in defiance and unbelief.
- Sahih Muslim 2662a, Book of Destiny.
iii) Some trials bring people closer to Allah.
Suhaib reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) said:
Strange are the ways of a believer for there is good in every affair of his and this is not the case with anyone else except in the case of a believer for if he has an occasion to feel delight, he thanks (God), thus there is a good for him in it, and if he gets into trouble and shows resignation (and endures it patiently), there is a good for him in it.
E) What is the wisdom of knowing of the Qadr and it's effect worship?
Qur'an 57 : 23 - In order that you not despair over what has eluded you and not exult [in pride] over what He has given you. And Allah does not like everyone self-deluded and boastful -
F) Are we to Depend on Destiny?
'Ali reported that one day Allah's Messenger (ﷺpeace and blessings be upon him) said:
There is not one amongst you who has not been allotted his seat in Paradise or Hell. They said: Allah's Messenger. then, why should we perform good deeds, why not depend upon our destiny? Thereupon he said. No, do perform good deeds, for everyone is facilitated in that for which he has been created; then he recited this verse (Surah 92 : 5-10)"
- Sahih Muslim 2647c, Book of Destiny
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Think about it from Tawhid
Ibn Abbas reported: I was riding behind the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, when he said to me, “Young man, I will teach you some words. Be mindful of Allah and He will protect you. Be mindful of Allah and you will find Him before you. If you ask, ask from Allah. If you seek help, seek help from Allah. Know that if the nations gathered together to benefit you, they could not benefit you unless Allah has decreed it for you. And if the nations gathered together to harm you, they could not harm you unless Allah has decreed it for you. The pens have been lifted and the pages have dried.”
- Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2516
Your freewill is in your heart and it will be judged :
Qur'an 26 :89 - Except him who brings to Allah a clean heart [clean from Shirk (polytheism) and Nifaq (hypocrisy)].
It was narrated from Abu Hurairah, that one of the people of Ash-Sham said to him:
"O Shaikh, tell me of a Hadith that you heard from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him)." (He said: "Yes; I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) say: 'The first of people for whom judgment will be passed on the Day of Resurrection are three. A man who was martyred. He will be brought and Allah will remind him of His blessings and he will acknowledge them. He will say: What did you do with them? He will say: I fought for Your sake until I was martyred. He will say: You are lying. You fought so that it would be said that so-and-so is brave, and it was said. Then He will order that he be dragged on his face and thrown into the Fire. And (the second will be) a man who acquired knowledge and taught others,and read Qur'an. He will be brought, and Allah will remind him of His blessings, and he will acknowledge them. He will say: What did you do with them? He will say: I acquired knowledge and taught others, and read the Qur'an for Your sake. He will say: You are lying. You acquired knowledge so that it would be said that you were a scholar; and you read Qur'an so that it would be said that you were a reciter, and it was said. Then He will order that he be dragged on his face and thrown into the Fire. And (the third will be) a man whom Allah made rich and gave him all kinds of wealth. He will be brought and Allah will remind him of His blessings, and he will acknowledge them. he will say: What did you do with them? He will say: I did not leave any way that You like wealth to be spent. He will say: "You are lying. You spent it so that it would be said that he was generous, and it was said." Then he will order that he be dragged on his face and thrown into the Fire.'"
- Sunan an-Nasa'i 3137, Kitab Jihad.
Qur'an 2 : 286 - Allah burdens not a person beyond his scope.
Qur'an 6 : 164 - Say: "Shall I seek a lord other than Allah, while He is the Lord of all things? No person earns any (sin) except against himself (only), and no bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another. Then unto your Lord is your return, so He will tell you that wherein you have been differing."
جزاك الله الفردوس يا اخي الكريم
Jzk for this!
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We don’t know how the Universe fully works but the Universe still exists .. we haven’t discovered 99 percent of the ocean but that doesn’t mean the ocean doesn’t exist .. we are just too afraid to acknowledge our own limitations
We can reconcile both because we experience both phenomena every day.
In my opinion, the mechanism of how qadar and freewill coexist is supernatural or ghaib. we are not supposed to be able to grasp it. we can only try to grasp the what question, but not the 'how". we know God is all knowledgeable. But we do not know how it works.
Alhamdulillah I understand the reconcilliation of Qadar and Free Will.
@@feeder-ru2ce
We can reconcile both because we experience both phenomena every day.
How To Reconcile Qadar & Free Will? By Hamza Tzortzis & Mohammed Hijab
how to reconcile predestination and free will in islam. If Everything is Written What About Free Will? How do I have free will if my destiny is already written? Do We Have Free Will or Are We Predetermined? Do Human Beings really have Free Will? If everything is Pre-destined why do anything?
The concept of Freewill and predetermination in Islam. Free Will vs. Predestination. concept of free will in islam. Is Everything We Do Predestined Or Do We Have Free Will. hat is Predestination/Fate/Qadr?. Is My Life Pre-Destined? Free Will and Destiny.
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This is good.
و لو ردو لعادو لما نهو عنه.
He flipped it. May Allah forgive us all
النية هى أهم شئ والله أعلم
Read Divine Determining from the Risale Nur
On the pool jumping vs being pushed analogy I think it does work because it's an analogy or thought experiment so yh the jumping person could be argued to be to be determined but it's an analogy not an explenation so the man jumping is an analogy to the free will not an example of it and the one pushing is an analogy to destiny not an example of it.
We can reconcile both because we experience both phenomena every day.
Generally people have doubt that how could, (i) Allah Paak have 100% confirm knowledge of the future events and still (ii) We have free will.
The doubt isn't correct and reason for it is that our Free Will is because of Rooh (in which regards humans have less knowledge)
i.e. We can't assure that there's a chain of causality between Qadar and Free Will.
We can reconcile both because we experience both phenomena every day.
The best explanation I've found comes from Quantum Theory, or even looking at classical physics, specifically looking at the electron. Study this little particle. When you look at it, it's in one place as a particle. When you aren't looking at it, it behaves like an electromagnetic wave, impacting entire areas and shifting according to what's around it. Technically and statistically it exists in the entire universe at a certain infinitesimally small percentage, and yet when you look at it, it's a particle.
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This universe is beyond our comprehension.
We can reconcile both because we experience both phenomena every day.
Hamza has a twin!
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Does anyone who believes god is wise has to believe in taleel in actions of god necessarily?
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Thank you so much.
The kadhaa and kadr and free-will it's a matter of belief that has no thing to do with our life science, however this belief in kadaa and kadar comes after establishing an origin belief which is believeing in Allah and in what Mohammad's message brought.
Example:
If I give you a showing proof that i can carry up 500kg, this fact makes you believe in my power. Now, what if someone told you that I could carry an elephant. Here surely you will believe in me basing on the origin belief with no need to a another proof (this's called rational proof).
Results:
The showing proof is the Quran which establishes the origin belief. when the origin belief is built, that leads to accept the second belief that has no need to any proofs.
What the purpose of all that?.
This's the sound belief that feeds our worshiping to Allah as like as we see him (IHSAN level) with trust, and that what makes the difference between the children of Adam who never seen or talked to Allah and the Angels who has already seen and talked to Allah.
For that reason the Angels have been commanded to bow to Adam, and for that purpose exactly the satan has taken us his enemy and we commanded as well in surat Alkahf to take him as our enemy).
Final fruit:
The real worshippers of Allah from the children of Adam are better than the Angels.
Allah said to the Angels in the Quran in surat Albakara " I know what don't know" this's when the Angels didn't realize the wisdom of making Adam and his children as khaleefa in the earth as a test for them where Allah gave them the free will to do what they want (obeying Allah or Obeying the Satan). However the Angels they're ordered to obey to Allah with no free will.
Conclusion:
Without understanding the whole story of pur creation and our purpose in this life we cannot absolutely realize the wisdom of believing in kadha an kadar.
We can reconcile both because we experience both phenomena every day.
Do not accept the premises of greek philosophy. Its not either you are completely free or everything is determined. It's quite simple and we as Muslims should leave it at that and trust in Allahs wisdom.This topic can be sensed and does not need a philosophical discussion to understand. Everything that you can choose to do is from your own free will. Anything that happens from yourself or on yourself that you have no control over is Qada from Allah. An example is: You go to a river to drink water, you want to drink cold water though the river is not cold and there are no nearby source of cold water. The part where there is no cold water around you is Qada, now the fact thatwhether you decide to drink the warm water or continue to look for cold water is still your own choice and the greatest evidence for that is your senses. All in all, anything that you can decide to do, is your own choice and anything that you have no control over is Qada.
We can reconcile both because we experience both phenomena every day.
Mohammed “yani” hijab
Science makes no sense without determinisms and morals makes no sense with determinisme.
It is Allah who is truly free. We do not have free will, since we are bounded within the capacity what is given to us.
The Quranic verse that mentions about al-amanah is as Allah said;
Indeed, we offered the Trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, and they declined to bear it and feared it; but man [undertook to] bear it. Indeed, he was unjust and ignorant.”
We have responsibility because the trust that is given to us, since we can choices what can impact not only ourselves but also our surroundings.
It is its resetting that the first two sects in Islam started with this discussion.
From a materialistic scientific standpoint is it necessarily that there is something as determinisme, but that is meaningless since that removes our responsibility.
The Islam is what gives solution to this problem.
It is Allah who sees and hears everything. So when we are in a materialistic perceived framework as individuals, it is possible that multiple outcomes was possible.
Or multiple directions with the same outcome, and allah knows all possible outcomes and directions.
Plus Allah can change reality. Angels can influence outcomes. The wind, what is direct command from Allah can change a lot.
Every night sleeping and the dreams we had, can change the state, and how we behave in the day.
At the end. It is all about submission. To give over the the fact that we do not have full control, but that the most merciful does have.
That truly connects morals with science.
No analogy, no explanation because free will and determinism are contradictory. They cannot both exist like a square circle.
We can reconcile both because we experience both phenomena every day.
@@uthman2281 just to clarify, it's either everything that does and doesn't happen is due to Allah's Devine decree (Qadr) OR you can make choices and take actions that overrule his Devine decrees. And both those things happen every day?
Does that mean you have power over Allah's decrees or that his decrees are powerless? Or does it mean that he doesn't decree things and you choose everything that happens not him?
@@rkinczel
Your point was determinism and free will are incompatible. My daily experience shows me that both are compatible because I experience both phenomena. There are regularities and processes that are outside of my control in the world outside and many other processes that take place in my body that also happen outside of my control. That's one side of the medal. The other side of the coin is there are processes and events where I have a choice to do or not do something.
@@uthman2281 the question is do you have free will or is everything determined. (Determinism). If everything is determined by Allah's Devine decree then you may think you have free will but all your actions were predetermined and decreed.
Your experience is entirely irrelevant because you wouldn't be able to tell you could do something else, even the expression of the ideas your typing into your phone were only allowed because Allah decreed it. (Qadr). All other actions wouldn't be able because Allah hasn't decreed those actions.
You see the issue?
@@rkinczel
My experience is the only tool I have to interact with the world outside. Calling this tool irrelevant is complete nonsense. What I can perceive, what I can experience, my entire world is based on these values. Let me break this down for you. Nothing can happen without Allah's permission. No atom can move on its own, no molecule can come to life on its own. That is crystal clear. And yet Allah has allowed us to have a choice in a few cases. In other words, Allah predestined us to be free to have a choice. Both are perfectly in sync.