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The SKS Is Surprisingly Good Late Wipe! Lowest Recoil & Budget Build Guide
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- Today's video is about SKS builds, and how this weapon holds up in 12.12 well despite being towards the end of the wipe. We start by showing the possible configurations, from the beginner friendly stock variant through to the high end TAPCO, which gives us our lowest recoil version.
However there is a great barter at only Mechanic 2, which lets us snag the base UAS SKS for only 3 weapons parts - these can be found as low as 10k on the flea which makes the build extremely cost effective!
At first, it doesn't seem that the "ring" scopes are compatible with the SKS, but finally we show that you can mount pretty much anything if you use a specific combination of parts.
Happy hunting!
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00:00:00 Why the SKS
00:02:09 Possible builds
00:03:27 Lowest recoil
00:05:13 Budget barter
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Have you given the SKS a fair shot in 12.12?
Half of my raids, I'm rocking a basic SKS with standard PS GZH ammo, and I still clap chads with it. Maybe I should start upgrading my stuff, but I love just ratting with this gun!
You mention you can still top load into the non internal mags "if you only have 1 and loose rounds in your pockets" but you can also still top-load if you have multiple mags if you use the your Reload Key + Scroll Wheel which allows you to chose the mag you want to reload to... or the loose bullets
the sks is one of my main weapons for a very long time now. its truly a hidden gem and ppl sleep on it. you can rock it early to late wipe with no problem and its fully PvP capable. last wipe i got the mastery on level 3 :>
yes its ok
Honestly the thing I find most important when selecting a sks to use is the default round. Regular sks if I plan on shooting ps ammo and op sks if I plan on using BP since I am traditionally only going for headshots with it. Before the fire rate cap on semi auto sks was my favorite labs gun cause of the horizontal recoil pattern but now it's just not what it once was for close range. I still love it tho, just wish they would add stripper clips for top loading it quickly
I rock an SKS start, mid and late wipe. it shoots BP and you can get good at the recoil bounce and is super easy to make follow up shots. I can literally use nothing but this gun for a whole wipe it's an S tier
Thats great and all but you're missing out on the hundreds of other fun guns lol
@@wahidkhandoker2142 true I also love the SKS all wipe but I try to mix it up. always a great fallback gun.
@@wahidkhandoker2142 Oh I'm definitely using other guns, A long barrel MPX is my favorite by far and I also love the MP5.
I wish the 9mm ammo was a bit more available, the MP5SD is one of my favourite guns! With the ballistics update it works really well now
@@Gigabeef Once armor plates are introduced lower level ammo for 9mm will be much more viable!
Another neat thing about the SKS is that when suppressed it has one of the quietest rapports of any gun in EFT, and I've found that combining that with the 7.62x39 US gzh subsonic rounds makes it so no one will ever know where you are shooting from unless they see you directly. Works very well for night raids on Woods.
subsonic rounds do not work properly in the game at the moment, they have the same sound as normal rounds. stick to BP
@@zhongligaming3734 do they really?
@@zhongligaming3734 that isnt true, gigabeef literally proved they have different audio in one of his recent videos about audio.
@@homeless0alien Yup. They sound the same if you're right next to someone but far off you hear nothing but the round hit the tree behind you 😂
Even if you do have spare mags you can still load from the top if you have loose rounds, just hold R and scroll your mouse wheel, you will be able to select the rounds and begin your top load :) helpful if you've mostly emptied your mags and want to top up your current one rather than swapping to one with less ammo
2:12 absolutely LOVE this! Great way to showcase weapons :)
Ah great! I'm trying some new things when putting these together :)
That sks barter used to be my whole wipe strat up until around lvl 35... what a gun it was
Love the SKS early game - this wipe I sold off all my starter USEC weapons and just used the SKS with PS rounds, excellent gun to learn how to use iron sights. Then you can keep what you've learned when you unlock the OP SKS and add a scope and suppressor to start learning/working longer range. Love it, and look forward to using it early wipe again.
A gun capable of firing 7.62x39 BP will remain effective throughout a wipe. I love using an SKS every now and again.
One thing to add about the differences between the standard SKS and OP-SKS, is that the regular SKS has *slightly* better hidden dispersion stats over the OP-SKS so if you're gonna run them barebones, run the standard.
Indeed, I agree
i mean its cheaper and literally the same thing without a scope mount, wouldnt you run a normal sks instead anyways if going barebones?
There comes a point when you’ve killed so many chads you’ve gotta ask yourself… are you the chad?
Before going into this video I just wanna say I'm glad someone has finally made a video about the SKS late wipe. Its such a good gun early wipe and late wipe (opsks being the better option of the two)
Nice! I had such good vibes using it, haven't even picked it up for like 3 wipes and I got a real nostalgia feels using this one :)
I have been building this beast since launch man! so good to see someone making a video about it! My thoughts on the suppressor, if you are playing proud and loud in a squad environment just run the srvv for the lower recoil. If you are more a lone wolf like me.. spend that 30k brother on the suppressor it is more than worth the survival chance you are getting from it. The only tricky part about this build for me was getting grenadier done in a manageable amount of time xD
Ha yeah grenadier is an annoying one!
sks is my go to for silenced sniping , especially since the wrapped up silencer looks dope
I've been rocking this setup with PSO eye cup and the SRVV... pretty cool.
0:40 horizontal recoil simulates the "recoil" - amount of force weapon gives to the shoulder. The actual variable responsible for horizontal spread is hidden.
P.S. the recoil in Tarkov consists of 6 variables, 4 of them are hidden
Are there any spreadsheets or websites that display these values?
@@LuciSheppy I doubt. This isn't something most players can utilize, it's just an interesting fact of game mechanic.
Here's vid with recoil stats experiments
czcams.com/video/GxJkGetr6Ro/video.html
it is not hidden, its the weapon recoil angle, with 90 being straight up, >90 being up and right , and
@@tpolkg Just use SPT mod and you can see all internal values and even edit them 🤷
Its my fallback gun when I got a bad time in tarkov. Cheap reliable and deadly. Love to use it with the pso ❤️
Great video, this is something i use often all throughout the wipe when no gun sounds fun. The SKS is always fun to get kills with.
I usually ignore it, been a pleasure!
@@Gigabeef always great to see people realize its constant viability throughout every stage of the wipe. Keep up the great content, I'm for sure enjoying the hell out of it.
7:15 Technically, the gun was designed for the use of chargers (or stripper clips, if you like), but they still aren't implemented in EfT for a somewhat puzzling reason. After all, it's far from groundbreaking and was done in a lot of shooters before.
8:42 Since we're basically talking about a DMR here, a rangefinder might be a very useful thing to put there.
9:42 I would argue that for a semiauto only gun much suited for a sort of DMR role the use of a suppressor is recommended when possible.
rangefinder only sounds good on paper, it's totally unnecessary when u should just get used to estimating range and compensating
Yeah you could use it there - I personally only find it useful enough to justify the 20k or so when playing Lighthouse for the rogue distances. Also yeah, suppressors are good but I wanted to take my lovely ADS speed on this occasion :)
Great video as always.
You still can topload sks even with an other mag in rig, if you have looses rounds too. Scroll mousewhell while pressing R for selecting mag or bullets ;)
Neat, never done that combo with a mag :)
This barter is one of my favorite low key options. So cheap for the performance you get
I like my SKS Dodgy Marksman's Rifle: Take an OP-SKS, put it in Tapco Intrafuse furniture, add a foregrip and suppressor. Mount two optics: a PSO scope (all of them work) and on the forward mount an EKP-8-18 (Don't forget the shade!) With my preferred stock and 35 round mag, it ends up at 91 recoil and 48 ergo, which is reasonable.
The PSO scopes are offset just enough, and the Kobra red dot just tall enough that they don't interfere with each other. It's good fun.
Love the jank, props to ya
Ahh, the moose knuckle. Btw, it's made like this on purpose so you can use the iron sight but in eft you can't. There's one game you can though but I don't remember
iLOVE your guids. i binge them when ever i cant really play eft. they keep me updated and hyped to play more eft
Awesome, cheers!
I really like sks a solo player because its cheap , always comes back from insurance , the suppresor is the most quiet one in the game i think and its only about 30k , you can topload BP rounds and it makes it a really good and economic gun.
Yup! I got every single one back the other day when I was using it :)
Speaking facts 🍻
Maybe this’ll be good to use while I get rid of my PvP anxiety
@@ZorillaMyrid181 Yes its very good. Always go with tapco body kit thing and then suporessor , cobra grip is good for ergo OR KAC GRIP , and i usually went with PSO scope and added a canted sight for more closer engager.
You can honestly do the same with VPO-136. It also skirts around some of the SKS issues with mounting sights/lights/lasers and reloading. (AK100 Handguard Prapor 1 / Bastion Skier 1)
It also has better recoil stats right out of the box for the same price, Skier 1.
The VPO-136 Will be cheaper to build out to the same stats for late-wipe builds too.
May as well just do 3x tushonka for an AKM tbh. The SKS is nice alternative for the same reason as I mentioned, better horizontal performance behind the scenes
@@Gigabeef That's a good point. However, I believe the direct Ruble purchase early wipe may be more convenient than having to farm 3x tushonka for every rifle you run. Not to mention locking one-self to semi-auto could also have its accuracy benefits.
The reload/attachment benefits outweigh the slight horizontal recoil increase I've tested/played with in my experience. Especially when needing to bring the rifle into closer engagements.
Yeah 30r is good especially when recoil is high early. I tend to use the basic Sks with irons super early on, and after that I think I skipped straight to the rfb when I got a chance - hard to remember back now!
you just taught me something new with my favorite weapon Thank You!
The drum mag is really fun on factory early wipe, i had a run with in on day 2 of this wipe where i killed 3x pmc's without having to think about reloading.
Love the SKS. always preferred tapping heads to spraying.
:)
I use two 20 round mags and if im not getting shot at I switch to my hatchet and top load the sks in my inventory. this allows you to get one extra round in the gun without dropping any ammo
Cunning! Especially when using BP 😂
I strongly suggest dumping the UAS and using the tapco intrafuse later in wipe, it can take great advantage of the more efficient stocks and foregrips that traders unlock.
this gun has been my fav for a long time. so damn good
OP-SKS is great. Can use it for entire wipe and as you progress you unlock extra parts and can make it even better.
I’ll never forget noob me. Using sks mostly. Then I killed a high level player on woods who had a fully kitted op sks with a vudu scope. The old one that filled up the screen. Blissful.
Yeah I got real old school vibes using it, been SO long since I used a kitted SKS :)
Top loading the 20 rounder is my go to early wipe
ERGO! You should build the SKS on max Ergo, and a laser/light on the Cobra mount for hip fire. Recoil is almost irrelevant for a semiauto. You need ergo!
OP-SKS with a Socom front, PSO, laser/flashlight, canted sight and suppressor still does wonders even at late wipe and the point fire feels way better than the ak IMO.
To be honest it's also good early wipe and mid wipe, one of my best budget weapon ! Also it's one of the quietest weapon of the game when used with a supressor. You can also combine a PSO and a flat cobra (ekp 8 18) when you use the SKS socom to have a early wipe deported scope (it ugly but they works together)
Thanks Giggerschmeef. :)
So I’ve seen a few mentions of the moe stock+pad. U can get it at a much lower price with the breacher exchange from mechanic. One powerbank or what ever the white one is and 1 weapons part, it’s easy all through the day to purchase those two items for around 15k mind u they do jump to 20k a piece which is still a deal. Buy the breacher and get yourself the moe stock + pad. Also gets u a very nice forgrip and holographic sight. Either way turn around sell the item after u take the stock n pad resells to mechanic for around 30k. Sometimes I make money in this process and get the forgrip+stock. I can’t remember if the breacher is from mechanic 2 or lvl 3.
Ok... that's amazing! I was not aware of the value here, had overlooked it - thanks for your service :)
I love the SKS! Still one of my favorite weapons. It gets the job done early wipe and late wipe it is the best weapon for money farm runs imo. And it always returns if insured.
I got so many back when I ran it for a bit!
Very thoughtful video! I've been running around for a few raids with an AK-74 w/ PBS suppressor, Primary Arms 2.5x and PP ammo-- that's been serving me pretty well being dirt cheap and having nice high-velocity rounds that make head-tapping a little easier (even though it takes multiple hits sometimes with 5.45's shitty damage). I might give SKS a try, though (but surely something more along the lines of the extreme budget build :D). My experience with 7.62 PS AKs / Veprs (historically my go-to weapons) has been pretty mediocre this wipe: OK for PvE, not really up to the task of PvP. Maybe I should give 7.62 BP a shot despite the cost.
BP is mental, just drops everyone if you hit your shots. The biggest issue is mitigating the amount you lose when you die! The primary arms scope I get crapped on every time I use it hahaha, people really hate it but I love the 2.5x! Tarkov has a real lack of 2-3x scopes imo :) was a big 3x user in pubg
@@Gigabeef I agree: those low magnification optics are a perfect match for Tarkov engagement distances (for me, the majority of my shots are under 100m and I'd reckon 98% of shots are under 200m). I really like that reticle despite the fact that it's a bit cluttered: the aiming dots are nice and clean and the inner horseshoe is good for snap-shooting at close range. Only thing I don't like about the PA 2.5x is how much screen real estate it takes up when you're not aimed down sights, largely due to those stupid flip-up scope caps.
I'm also a fan of the Eotech + magnifier combo-- I'd probably use that all the time if it weren't for the price being significantly higher. If I could get the HHS for ~20k I'd use it constantly (like I did a wipe or two ago, when people thought it was trash) but now it always seems to be like 40k+ on the flea.
Personally I go with the tapco barter, then swap the SKS for an Op-SKS for the scope mount, and sell the extra parts back to mechanic
The OP SKS is my go to gun for starting my wipes.
The issue with the SKS is mounting a sight, especially early wipe.
dude just get the cheaper sks and go iron sight it has the best iron sight in the game.
pso scope prapor lvl 1
Op sks has the dovetail mount, level 1 Jaeger you can get the axiom kobra mount and run both a sight and laser
Takes literally 1 good raid too unlock the OP SKS. Examine all your gear, get the Jaegar quest from Gunsmith, go Woods complete quest. Them just throw a PSO Scope from Prapor and chuck in some PS rounds and you have a decent weapon after 1 raid.
@@jonesdan85 1 raid assuming no one is camping the message, which people almost always do for the first week of wipe
bro i have played so many raid with sks i can can confirm that this gun is insane asf
SKS even with PS is a great gun early game. Its really spammable even with the most budget versions at level 1
I love the 7.62x39 round. AKs are fun rifles.
I've been absolutely destroying Timmy's in factory with the tapco sks conversion with fmjs its so good
the SKS is my goto gun when I am not running high level gear or want a run where I dont need to worry
I do wish there was an easier way to custom stack mags, Instead of just separating it out by hand lol
Ha yeah would be a nice little quality of life addition
hitting all the buttons for a video that pushed all my buttons... ;)
Cheers :)
@Gigabeef this video could REALLY benefit from some bookmarks/timestamps. I literally had to watch the whole thing twice cuz I couldn't find the part where you were talking about the build for the lowest recoil.
Oh did I forget to put them on this one? I usually do these days, thanks for letting me know I'll do it later today :)
Done now, cheers!
You can also buy the OP-SKS body and put it on the base SKS and get the full effect that the OP-SKS gets. You can also get the dovetail mount for the OP-SKS sperate. I wanna say it's Jaeger 1 so early wipe may not be bad to keep the normal SKS's you find in boxes for slightly cheaper OP-SKS's when money is a bigger issue.
Unless I am mistaken you can't mount the dovetail to the regular SKS body, even if you change over the stock to the light wood version from the OP
@@Gigabeef I'm a few days late but you are right. I just double checked and it's different to previous wipes. It used to be that the OPSKS Dovetail mount was mounted on the wooden body and you could buy the mount and body from Jaeger 1, but that was changed to mounting on the OP SKS itself. That's my bad, thanks for letting me know!
Another great video.
SKS has always been my best performing gun. Idk what it is, but it just always lands on heads
High ergo with semi auto it is
First lol. Note you can top load the detachable mags even if you have several in your rig. Just hold your reload key, with loose rounds in your pockets, and use the mouse wheel to select the rounds. Useful if you've only fired a round or two and don't want to go through the whole animation, as it's pretty long. The weapon was never designed for detachable mags, and IRL I'd judge you for changing the magazine or furniture. Rifle is fine.
Oh that's cool actually, never tried the combo together + the reload select :)
Thank you for your great Tarkov content and helpful vids.
You sure helped me improve in tarkov as a newbie.
I personally love the OP-SKS, and i wondered, as it is a super silent gun when supressed, what happens if you run a supressor and 762x39mm US ammo?
Any hints on how to learn the trajectory and how much noise does it make from the target POV?
Thanks! I still need to confirm the subsonic sounds from both sides tbh so not sure yet - the trajectory is tough because of the way zeroing works currently. You have to go and try it out for each gun/round and do it trial and error, a bit painful!
My fav. Steal them from shturmans boys and then profit on reserve.
Surprisingly AKM has far more the horizontal recoil than the skis despite having much better recoil stats
I always do tapco, even though the other stock is sleeker
AKM for 3 cans of beef, unbeatable!
It might be interesting to compare the SKS to the 7.62 VPO, to see which one is a better bang for buck, since they are both budget semi auto BP firing guns.
Yeah, it's close but tbh the horizontal on the Sks can't be 'bought' so to speak with the other 762 guns (akm, vpo etc).
Outside of that the vpo is probably cheaper though, and the bastion is easier too use. Plus the mags are hyper cheap in comparison
@@Gigabeef It might be interesting to take the price of the top tier SKS build, and use that as a budget for a top tier VPO build, and see what stats you end up with
VPO definitely has a big advantage with the standard AK 30 rounders for cheap (and faster, less finicky reloads, no dropping a bullet to reload mid mag, etc.), and access to all the AK mods (handguards, stocks, Bastion like you said, etc) so it may be interesting to see how the performance per ruble measures up.
My guess is the closer you are to barebones, OP-SKS+PSO combo wins, but once heavier modding comes into play, the VPO will really start to shine
@@knightshousegames if you build both of them "top tier" the sks is objectively better cuz of the recoil
the sks has a MASSIVE downside that any sight basically blinds you on the right of the screen
The sks is expensive for a kinda bad gun 135k is kinda shit when you can build a 5.45 ak for like 50k and have the same stats..
the 7.62 vpo is cheap as shit easier to mod doesnt need jaeger to put a muzzle device on
SKS bone stock with a PSO is hands down the best mid/long range extreme budget option
vpo is better with some basic crap tossed on it
SKS full build is the best in a full meta style.
a 5.45 ak with an ak100 grip any 2% foregrip with a buttstock and basically any muzzle device with 45 rounders and usgs is almost 2x cheaper and gives you a full auto railgun
doesnt matter if BP kills faster if you hit the head or just railgun them you turn their screen off in shitkov...
Love the vids.
id love to be trying some different guns, but Prapor says I have to finish Punisher part 6 first. 4 kills to go, and then Epsilon. I have never had a bigger secure container than the beta lol. But God i am finding it hard work. I swear i will never touch an SVDS again.
I tried high ergo but could only make low recoil work in the end!
@@Gigabeef Finally got my Epsilon a few days ago Giga. As an older gamer i am pretty happy with myself. Coming back to this vid to check your SKS builds. Hope your full time gamer content creator gig is going well mate.
I feel like those of us that don't focus on playing the 'meta', have always known the SKS is a great gun...my fear now is with mainliners starting to put it out there it's going to start getting considered a 'meta' and get nerfed....Really hope it doesn't cuz I've always loved the SKS, it's a good all wipe gun. It's not an early, mid, or late wipe gun, it's a all wipe gun. Best bang for your buck, PS rounds punch through lvl 4 easily, and can still put work in on T5 so unless your rocking tier 6 your still fair game against the PS. And if the shooter has BP yeah you can just hope they can't aim at that point...
This wipe I ditched sks+ps for mosin+sks, it's worth a try
Sks gang all dayyyyy
bring the drum! BEST sks! XD
Haha 😅
rfb is good out of the box , sks takes more modding , it might be good right now but its reliability relies on market prices for a bunch of mods
I would argue that the SKS works first, base model + PS ammo + PSO scope, then the RFB kicks in at Skier2, with M80 from Peacekeeper, and then the SKS comes back again once you can get BP in some form
Also its my favorite dmr because if you suppress it, it is insanely quiet
The SKS is good in every regard except reload speed. If you have to reload you're pretty much dead. Even with mags. For that reason, I always rock the Vepr KM
Gonna try this with a razor today now
Nice!
Hey you take back what you said about the 25mm scope
It has always been good ever since the BP buff many iterations ago.
SKS always been god tier
Is it just me or is it impossible to get the rail for the mount for the modern sks
beefcake!
Can you do a video of sks vs vpo-136 ? The barter trade of 136 of 2 horses makes me think it’s better for basically the same gun but no one ever talks about the 136 and I want to know why exactly
Just because if people wanna use something they usually grab the AKM for 3x Tushonka. The SKS does have better horizontal, so that makes it a better DMR - VPO is easier to mod though
So what your saying is the only cost effective/actually effective gun early wipe is an SKS with PS rounds, then around level 3 traders we finally unlock the ability to purchase other somewhat effective but extremely more expensive setups to try and lose and then late game we come full circle back to the $%&$ing SKS this time with BP rounds and a fancy stock.
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Let's see if I get it. You propose putting on a pic rail dovtail, for nutts height over bore, then a riser, **and** then the optic. What even is height over bore...
If you're planning on using it over range, like a DMR it shouldn't matter that much.
Doesn't really matter as you have to be aware of it not to shoot the environment anyway with the SKS, plus you're not supposed to be right up close :)
damnit now the fence 209s will be all gone
Everyone will forget after a day, always the way :)
SKS would be a godly weapon for me just if only you could change sighting range on iron sights. And as OP-SKS goes, I find 7.62 VPO better.
Yo giga do u know if top loading an sks will level the assault rifle skill?
Hmm I don't know. It is an assault carbine in game - never tested it! Give it a quick go in offline, it should be fairly obvious if you put the drum on and a full stack of PS in your pocket 😂
SKS w/ 75 rounds of BP in a drum was my go to for punisher kills wearing the scav vest
you can also topload into the 20 rounders even if you have spares by holding R and scrolling to the loose rounds. nice sometimes if you want to repack while moving
I will never bother with this. But thx for the video
How do I put a reflex on top of the scope how it’s done in the very beginning of the video?
You need one of the rings that supports it, like the recknagel or the JP enterprises
What's the name of the music in the video (00:30)
That one is "Sunrise Drive - South London HiFi"
@@Gigabeef thanks you very much.
whyyyyyyyyyyyy are sks strip clips not in the gameeeee
is it still up to date?
Or just buy SR25, sometime it is down to 60 on market, and destroy everything that moves:)
Yes... but nobody steals the SKS, unfortunately the SR-25 is often stolen.
SKS has never been underrated
vpo 136?? faster reload, use ak stuff, better, more profit?no?
Sks still a better dmr though, that horizontal recoil you can't do anything about on the vpo. Both good guns, different use cases - usually I just do 3x tushonka for an akm though rather than vpo
but the vpo 209 isn't that bad though.
I take joy in killing PMCs on woods with shotguns, it’s the only thing that seems fun to me anymore
at 0:28, which scope are you using? the one with x1 and x6 zoom?
Oh that's the Valday :)
@@Gigabeef thx! i just tried it in raid, that's a perfect scope for dmr,
long distance, but having the x1 zoom to closer range, that's perfect!
It's good for sure, although I tend to only use it on Lighthouse and maybe woods. Otherwise I stick to 4x :)
its underrated? I use this thing with the adar every other raid and I thought it was popular.
Do you always lose a bullet when reloading to another magazine?
Unfortunately yes
*Only if you don't empty the mag before reloading -- But who has the time for that lol
How does it compare to a vpo
Sks is better horizontal recoil but slightly harder to mod - depends what you wanna use it for really. Vpo better for close/medium range, but tbh I'd rather just trade 3x tushonka for an akm
why not use vpo
Same horizontal recoil as the akm
ok pip from south park