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Komentáře • 273

  • @adam-uk9wp
    @adam-uk9wp Před 10 lety +173

    hardest part is just setting up this shit. finding the derivative is easy but getting the equation to differentiate is such a btich

    • @winterwraith8339
      @winterwraith8339 Před 7 lety +3

      Adam Resh just remeber the volume equation for shapes. practice those on your free time. do it like a hour a day for a week. once it's melted in your brain remeber you take the volume of the substance and BANG!! your golden. you can find all the pieces you need in the diagram n do the easy part. practice doing a few more problems like this and it will start getting easy ;]

    • @cosmiclens
      @cosmiclens Před 2 měsíci

      @@winterwraith8339 That's good advice man!

  • @tomatosteve3444
    @tomatosteve3444 Před 7 lety +493

    I too will use calculus to find how much water I have in my 4 cm tall conical shaped cup at 2 cm of water when water is running at 1 cm^3/sec

    • @johngddr5288
      @johngddr5288 Před 6 lety +18

      I do that all the time!

    • @Brandon-ms2uc
      @Brandon-ms2uc Před 4 lety +18

      Or when you’re pouring sand into conical piles.

    • @eliotwilliams4480
      @eliotwilliams4480 Před 3 lety +1

      I like the sound of that! Maybe I should practice doing it more often.

  • @abdulazizob
    @abdulazizob Před 9 lety +219

    the drawing is a masterpiece.

  • @Xrdnk
    @Xrdnk Před 8 lety +659

    I can understand when other people do it but when i do it i get wrecked

  • @kinza7549
    @kinza7549 Před 8 lety +214

    holy shit drawing skills on point tho

  • @ozzman1997
    @ozzman1997 Před 9 lety +250

    I was waiting for him to correct the pi / 2 thing, lol. Seems like an intentional mistake my calc teacher would make to see if the class was paying attention.

    • @joolee_ette
      @joolee_ette Před 6 lety +8

      I WAS SO CONFUSED

    • @sienan
      @sienan Před 5 lety +1

      lmaoo my teacher does the same thing..

  • @louisehsu8480
    @louisehsu8480 Před 8 lety +268

    god Im so fucked

    • @LR-ce9vp
      @LR-ce9vp Před 8 lety +4

      lmao, bro, honestly do a few easier ones to build confidences.

    • @ellieb8627
      @ellieb8627 Před 7 lety +15

      Louise Hsu quiz tomorrow.... rip AP calc grade

    • @lusamini
      @lusamini Před 6 lety

      Louise Hsu my thoughts exactly😂 I'm gonna fail this class! How'd you guys do?

    • @huntersmith6821
      @huntersmith6821 Před 5 měsíci

      NO

  • @forevereveryours
    @forevereveryours Před 9 lety +82

    Who knew Sal was an artist too, oh dang.

  • @ericm1839
    @ericm1839 Před 10 lety +95

    btw, this has a 50% chance of showing up on your AP calc exam (both AB and BC)

  • @RocksYourFace44
    @RocksYourFace44 Před 9 lety +231

    That diagram is very
    khanical.

  • @AkidsukiLeader
    @AkidsukiLeader Před 10 lety +58

    I give up!! If Khan Academy can't help me to understand it then, I. Give. Up.

    • @hawkeye2958
      @hawkeye2958 Před 9 lety +7

      I find the less you try to think about it theoretically, the easier it is

    • @aretwodeetwo1260
      @aretwodeetwo1260 Před 9 lety +7

      same thing here, it seems like all you do is toss a bunch of equations into a bowl and stir them all up. Makes no sense whatsoever.

    • @zanytooth
      @zanytooth Před 9 lety

      It is supposed to be 1=pi/12*3*2squaredh/dt

  • @philisdead4
    @philisdead4 Před 10 lety +78

    WHAT THE FUCK?

    • @Punjabispitta
      @Punjabispitta Před 9 lety

      hahahaha I literally just said too, "I wonder how many wtf's I'm going to see in the comments" lmfaooo

    • @JagjitBrawler
      @JagjitBrawler Před 8 lety

      +Harnoor Singh sat sri akal

  • @charlesluo3114
    @charlesluo3114 Před 9 lety +30

    Cool vid, for anyone confused, when you take the derivative of the rearranged volume formula, you can just tag on the dh/dt next to the new derivative of height you just found instead of elaborating with the h(t) part.

    • @lasseokaty796
      @lasseokaty796 Před 4 měsíci

      Life saver thx made it way more confusing than it should be

  • @mozacchi
    @mozacchi Před 9 lety +57

    drawing tutorial link?

  • @arcadianproxy3730
    @arcadianproxy3730 Před 6 lety +21

    anyone else internally screaming when he wrote pi/2?

  • @lmfaowtfinghell
    @lmfaowtfinghell Před 9 lety +122

    Ugh... I understand it when he does it but I can't figure it out by myself :'(

  • @ellieb8627
    @ellieb8627 Před 7 lety +18

    "Let me make it clear" yes because writing it in some weird way makes everything so much clearer hahaha

  • @SoMoeYourToe32
    @SoMoeYourToe32 Před 7 lety +68

    Yeah, I hate this shit.

    • @ellieb8627
      @ellieb8627 Před 7 lety +6

      prettycoolshii quiz tomorrow... I still have no idea what I'm doing. Lol RIP second quarter AP calc grade

    • @Booger564
      @Booger564 Před 7 lety +1

      Ellie Burggraff I have a quiz in a couple hours!!! wish me luck

    • @ellieb8627
      @ellieb8627 Před 7 lety

      prettycoolshii update: I only got four wrong on my quiz simply because my teacher grades things nicely:)

  • @joy397
    @joy397 Před 7 lety +90

    i watched this whole video and absorbed nothing

    • @nibs991
      @nibs991 Před 5 lety +2

      Lmaoooo i took away a little bit but more power to ya

    • @saiyanbro
      @saiyanbro Před 5 lety +5

      He’s making this much more complicated than it needs to be. Other videos simplified it so you can actually learn

  • @uchihamadara6024
    @uchihamadara6024 Před 6 lety +4

    Got an exam tomorrow and this is the one thing I didnt understand. Thanks khan academy, for saving my ass year after year

  • @Wolfie020
    @Wolfie020 Před 11 lety +3

    Thanks so much for this video! Never quite got this concept, it will be very useful on my upcoming Calculus AP test.

  • @kr3wdog06
    @kr3wdog06 Před 7 lety +56

    He wrote pi/2 instead of pi/12......

    • @hswhite1
      @hswhite1 Před 7 lety +23

      you would think the amount of times he repeats stuff he would have wrote it lol

    • @Christianturner7
      @Christianturner7 Před 5 lety +2

      He corrects it at 10:28 relax.

  • @hunterdixon5845
    @hunterdixon5845 Před 8 lety +4

    I love this, it helped me understand how to take related rates. I couldn't have done it without ya ;D

  • @yooncho2112
    @yooncho2112 Před 9 lety +1

    Thank you so much!!! I finally got the answer for a similar problem I struggled for hours!!

  • @MrKushinator420
    @MrKushinator420 Před 9 lety +29

    No matter what i do, I can't understand all the random problems they throw at me. Neither one helps with any of the others. Think i'll just stop trying this bullshit.

    • @emlmm88
      @emlmm88 Před 8 lety +8

      Have you had the baseball one yet? Or the gradually deflating balloon? Fuck calculus.

    • @MrKushinator420
      @MrKushinator420 Před 8 lety +1

      I managed to get a C in calc 1 and a B in calc 2. After that, I took linear algebra and got a B+ (way easier). I don't think I'll ever be working with calculus though.

  • @hakalakalaka0.963
    @hakalakalaka0.963 Před 8 lety +18

    let my understanding of related rates=r. Find dr/dt.
    dr/dt=0

    • @milesweiss858
      @milesweiss858 Před 8 lety +14

      +Hakalakalaka1 so, your understanding of related rates is constant! better hope it's a high number.

  • @famine784
    @famine784 Před 10 lety

    Just the question i needed help with THANK YOU!

  • @Appl3Muncher
    @Appl3Muncher Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks khan academy has helped so much.

  • @k_______p
    @k_______p Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you very much!

  • @Enigma758
    @Enigma758 Před 9 lety +2

    I think the problem is even simpler if you use the chain rule this way: dV/dt = dV/dh * dh/dt. Once you have the formula for V(h), take the derivative and replace dV/dh with that. You're given dV/dt so plug that in too, then all you have to do is then solve for dh/dt.

  • @he0k0n41095
    @he0k0n41095 Před 9 lety +10

    should fix it to pi over 12 man......

  • @ollera18
    @ollera18 Před 10 lety

    you are an artist!

  • @MrAlbashiri
    @MrAlbashiri Před 9 lety

    thank you very much for the video. helped a lot :)

  • @NightbladeNotty
    @NightbladeNotty Před 10 lety +13

    so can I just move in with u and study until I get my engineering degree? ur a lot more understandable than my professors haha

    • @kg7111
      @kg7111 Před 2 lety +1

      how'd it go

    • @NightbladeNotty
      @NightbladeNotty Před 2 lety +3

      @@kg7111 graduated finally before the pandemic lol so I got to walk at least 🤣

    • @cosmiclens
      @cosmiclens Před 2 měsíci

      @@NightbladeNottyThat's good to hear man. I have a looong way to go.

  • @djancak
    @djancak Před 11 lety

    great explanation, thanks

  • @zappist751
    @zappist751 Před rokem

    GREAT EXPLANATION SIR KHAN

  • @behnamasid
    @behnamasid Před 11 lety

    What an amazing answer.

  • @keotshepilemandona9882
    @keotshepilemandona9882 Před 6 lety +1

    the guy talks for 11: 31 minutes and change my whole life...and not only me and for millions and billions of people out there.....

    • @lil_yerrr
      @lil_yerrr Před 5 lety +1

      Keotshepile Mandona this video on related rates really changed your WHOLE life?

    • @gelatinocyte6270
      @gelatinocyte6270 Před 5 lety

      So far (at the time I reply this), there are only at least 600k views in this video.

  • @jimcar53
    @jimcar53 Před 3 lety

    As usual - Brilliant

  • @LeeJordanMusic
    @LeeJordanMusic Před 9 lety +10

    Why were you able to take the constants out at 5:36?

  • @kyuujuuwang
    @kyuujuuwang Před 10 lety

    that was magical

  • @Nike7548
    @Nike7548 Před 9 lety

    Thanks bro lots of help :)

  • @thoughtprocess-
    @thoughtprocess- Před 7 lety

    I love you videos. thank you

  • @Frances3654
    @Frances3654 Před 11 lety

    very interesting

  • @TheMONOPOLY123
    @TheMONOPOLY123 Před 10 lety +8

    that drawing O.o

  • @LadyHelenaRavenclaw
    @LadyHelenaRavenclaw Před 11 lety

    that diagram is a work of art

  • @creatureunderthebed7083

    Not sure about you guys but I was DEFINITELY getting a tingling feeling about the chain rule there...😃😯

  • @mtdeezy
    @mtdeezy Před 11 lety

    This could be done really easily, though. The rate of change of height is the rate of flow divided by the area at the height. In this case, the radius is 1/2 the height, and the area is pi times the radius squared. So the area as a function of height is 1/4pi*h^2. At 2cm high, the area then is exactly pi. And the rate of change of height is flow/area =(1cm^3/s)/picm^2 = 1/pi cm/s.

  • @yashuppot3214
    @yashuppot3214 Před 5 lety

    How would u solve for the deriviative of h with respect to t in general

  • @Lauderdalesfinest954754
    @Lauderdalesfinest954754 Před 11 lety

    Fluid Dymamics..! Cool..

  • @FlamingAlchemist7
    @FlamingAlchemist7 Před 11 lety

    Did this in Calculus not too long ago

  • @Sp0okeh
    @Sp0okeh Před 9 lety

    i love the drawing of the cone and faucet. unfortunately im still trying to figure out the problem...

  • @sarikasabnis2369
    @sarikasabnis2369 Před 11 lety

    Sal, you can teach me anything and your drawings are pure masterpieces.

  • @FireVortex720
    @FireVortex720 Před 8 lety

    thnx man

  • @TheIkarus93
    @TheIkarus93 Před 11 lety

    sal you should make some modern physics vidoes; relativity, atom models, intro to quantum physics
    and stuff PLEASE

  • @luiscecenas6681
    @luiscecenas6681 Před 2 měsíci

    If learning math Khan explains it easier and better then all the teachers even college teachers😅

  • @johnnolen8338
    @johnnolen8338 Před 2 lety

    Hint: For a cone dV/dh = π r^2, in every case.
    For this case r/h = 2/4 => r/2 = 2/4. Therefore r = 2×2÷4 = 1.
    dV/dt = dV/dh·dh/dt = (π·1^2)dh/dt.
    Hence dh/dt = dV/dt ÷ π = 1 ÷ π centimetres per second. ◼

  • @kumis91
    @kumis91 Před 9 lety

    where you get v=(πh^3)/12 if you get the derivative of that then you have dv/dh and if you get the inverse of that you get dh/dv and then you can times dh/dv*dv/dt and you get dh/dt and then just sub in 2 for h, i find that less complicated, even though it'll look way more complex in this notation

  • @fieldHunter61
    @fieldHunter61 Před 7 lety +1

    Might as well embrace it kiddies. Got a degree in CS with 4 certifications but still can't find work. I thought I was done with this but here I am reviewing in case I have to become a math teacher. lol

    • @RamSharma-zp5fx
      @RamSharma-zp5fx Před 4 lety +1

      Have you found work yet

    • @fieldHunter61
      @fieldHunter61 Před 4 lety

      @@RamSharma-zp5fx Yes! and I love my job as a Java developer! After much perseverance and with the help of a specialized recruiter I didn't become a teacher. Now I'm pursuing a larger vision.

  • @trevordavis-dressner9913

    This is a function of time, that has respect to time, within the derivative of t, and the chain rule with respect to time

  • @raymond-reviews
    @raymond-reviews Před 6 lety

    Could you guys do related rates for troughs

  • @hardikguptaiit-k5028
    @hardikguptaiit-k5028 Před 3 lety

    Nice video

  • @vgoj
    @vgoj Před 11 lety

    Mistake at 9:35 . The h is a function of time. You can´t assume it's equal to 2cm. It's only equal to 2cm at the instant t=0s. To solve this problem one should use a simple ordinary differential equation (ODE) to find the function h(t) and V(t).

  • @xhelixshotx
    @xhelixshotx Před 5 lety +1

    The old video on rates of change provides a much shorter and time-saving method to solve this.

  • @RobbyBoy167
    @RobbyBoy167 Před 7 lety

    Hey Khan, i think it would be easier if you'd just go with the idea of implicit differentiation.

  • @jakeengel9377
    @jakeengel9377 Před 5 lety +1

    I think it would be better if you were to explain the mentality behind the concepts you are using in the actual problem, especially because every example is different. I think most people understand things best when they are given a reason as to why they’re doing something, such as just finding the derivative of both sides of the basic area of a cone in respect to time, then plugging in the values that are given; Always dumb things down as much as possible, it will make more sense later

  • @9starbrite3
    @9starbrite3 Před 10 lety

    He fixed it after a bit.

  • @emmabusby9067
    @emmabusby9067 Před 6 lety +1

    I could barely focus because I was so busy admiring the drawing

  • @lancelovecraft5913
    @lancelovecraft5913 Před 10 lety +2

    h=d the diameter 4=4 and 2=2. r is d/2 or h/2

  • @Crob56
    @Crob56 Před 9 lety

    Something with respect to something and the derivative of something.

  • @SnipeSniperNEW
    @SnipeSniperNEW Před 8 lety

    when you fill a cone with water, water height and radius increase if its rate of change of its volume is constant.
    the rate of change of the speed of increasing of the radius and height is decreasing (logically due to the cone shape) so how can we calculate this acceleration of in this case deceleration.

  • @ismaeeldasti2773
    @ismaeeldasti2773 Před 10 lety

    Pedro, no because when u differentiate that u get dr/DT and we can't have 2 unknowns in one equation

  • @RTRVII
    @RTRVII Před 11 lety

    No he is only interested in the momentarily change of h so what he does is correct. To get the complete function h(t) he must indeed solve a differential equation with a satisfactory boundary condition.

  • @zag5434
    @zag5434 Před rokem

    I have a question asking for the exact same thing with different numbers and I somehow still got it wrong following this exactly

  • @joshuacoleman714
    @joshuacoleman714 Před 10 lety

    he corrects himself if you watch all the way through.

  • @shanebauer8091
    @shanebauer8091 Před 6 lety

    Why are you able to take the 3.14/12 out, if I may ask.

  • @ShaMan3D
    @ShaMan3D Před 11 lety

    How you convert linear motion into circular ???

  • @Xdrakemanx
    @Xdrakemanx Před 11 lety

    dank

  • @HenggaoCai
    @HenggaoCai Před 11 lety

    Sal,
    I challenge you to do this problem. I bet you can't do it.
    A) "Water runs into a spherical bowl of radius 10 ft at a rate of 25 pi ft^3/min. How fast is the water level rising when the water is 6 feet deep?"
    B) "Find the depth of the water when the bowl is filled to 2/3 capacity"

  • @TheIkarus93
    @TheIkarus93 Před 11 lety

    This is not fluid dynamics since there is no analysis of how the fluid behaves and what laws are behind it, this is just calculus.

  • @bobsmith5491
    @bobsmith5491 Před 9 lety +3

    why the fuck do you feel the need to repeat every sentence 5 times, super helpful vid tho thanks alot!

  • @17puttab
    @17puttab Před 5 lety +1

    You meant pi over 12 at 10:13

  • @hamonyqueso699
    @hamonyqueso699 Před 9 lety

    i have been staring at my question for good 3 hrs now, and now my head hurts. IM DONE

  • @Nikifuj908
    @Nikifuj908 Před 11 lety

    Is that an exact measurement? Does it corroborate with other results? What is your sample size? Are there any outliers that could skew the data? How did you test problem difficulty- with human subjects or using a metric?
    Also, did you know that the purpose of Sal's channel is to teach, NOT to do the world's hardest problems on a dare?

  • @HenggaoCai
    @HenggaoCai Před 11 lety

    These problems are so easy. You should see the problems my teacher gives us. They are 3 times harder than the AP exam

  • @nonchalantd
    @nonchalantd Před 11 lety

    I hated this problem when I was struggling to learn how to do it.

  • @ahnafkhan8115
    @ahnafkhan8115 Před 3 lety

    Can we use this rate at which the height is increasing to find when the height will be at its maximum? Any help guys?

  • @flowerpower__
    @flowerpower__ Před 9 lety

    👍👍👍

  • @mingyan1966
    @mingyan1966 Před 11 lety

    he corrects the mistake later at 10:23

  • @RogerKlauser
    @RogerKlauser Před 10 lety +13

    At 8:27 the you wrote pi/2 but it should be pi/12.

  • @TheWarfare07
    @TheWarfare07 Před 6 lety

    Setting it up always gets me. Reason why I failed the exam twice. Couldn't set it up. 🎃

  • @jacobturnblom573
    @jacobturnblom573 Před 9 lety

    Making diameter and height of the cone the same made simplifying too easy. None of the problems I am assigned use the same dimension like this example. How would you simplify and pull the derivative when you can't just substitute (h/2) for r?

  • @jessicaschwalb4430
    @jessicaschwalb4430 Před 4 lety

    im sorry but i just gotta say, you allow me to reach unforeseen heights in maf. youre a goddess

  • @TheFaisal00000
    @TheFaisal00000 Před 11 lety

    man give me the the answers. How can I know that if I'm correct or wrong? Answers will help me a bit too.

  • @OmarJoseph
    @OmarJoseph Před 6 lety

    h(t), cuz it just wasnt confusing enough already.

  • @005Turk
    @005Turk Před 10 lety

    Hard question!

  • @meng5495
    @meng5495 Před 7 lety

    did anyone else notice that he messed up the problem by saying it is pi/2 instead it should be pi/12

  • @lilmantothemax2
    @lilmantothemax2 Před 11 lety

    i love you

  • @adolfocarrillo248
    @adolfocarrillo248 Před 5 lety

    Here an interesting question is How much is the dH/dT changing each moment. its much more useful.

    • @yashuppot3214
      @yashuppot3214 Před 5 lety +1

      So the second deriviative of the height with respect to time?

  • @rewrew5762
    @rewrew5762 Před 6 lety

    He fixes pi/2 to pi/12 @10:29, don't trip guys LOL