The fastest bike brand you've never heard of
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- čas přidán 1. 05. 2024
- If you follow downhill racing, you already know Neko Mulally has been building and racing his own bike frames under the banner of "Frameworks", but for most of us, this would be unthinkable. For a downhill racer at Neko's level, a bike sponsor is a huge part of your income, your entry fees, and a whole lot more. By giving that up to build his own Frames, all of that is on Neko's plate. Today we're going to find out what would possess this man to do that.
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The amount Neko has learned developing these frames is unreal. A fascinating glimpse into what drives a world cup DH racer from a product perspective
Yup, like learning it's better to have carbon for weight savings so he's starting with the rear triangle. But he knows carbon is better for the rest of the bike too. The money just isn't there for a mold yet. Funny thing is that he says he put his favorite things into this bike which is how a lot of downhill bikes are built. They're simply built to the favorite characteristics of a brand's top downhill racers
@@veganpotterthevegan main reasoning is because you want as little unsprung weight as possible for optimal ride characteristics
@joebruggman great reason for a full carbon bike. This is a fun project that's obviously an investment into creating a real bike company. Understable that carbon isn't the first material he's using
@@veganpotterthevegan yes but the frame is sprung weight so it’s material is not going to affect the ride quality of the bike as much as making the rear triangle carbon, but yes carbon would be the “best”.
@joebruggman there is a lot more weight savings to be had in the frame than the rear triangle and much of it is higher up which definitely matters.
takes me back to the 90s when privateers were coming up with wild designs that helped shape mtbs into what we ride today...kudos to Neko for keeping that spirit alive!
Virtual Pivot Point! VPP and Remember AMP forks!
Definitely necessary when nobody knew what worked. This bike really doesn't have anything vastly different than other bikes on the market beyond it being made for one person. No vastly different pivot location, no extra pivots from the norm. No extreme geometry change etc. Maybe there's homemade magic in the fork but I have my doubts
@@veganpotterthevegan Biting into a nice juicy burger while reading your salty comment makes this burger taste so much better. Mmmmm beef.
Alex Morgan and Buffalo Composite Designs had a MASSIVE understated impact on the direction of bike design.
@ericcartmansstrengthandpow5960 yeah, definitely not smart enough to offend me. I hear that same thing from 4-5 morons a day. I'm not salty. I'm being logical dumbdumb
What a legend, didn't get what he wanted from the brands so he created his own.
He got what he wanted from other bike brands, but he knew what he needed was something they couldn’t make, so he did what they did, but way fucking better.
@@squiddysquidster802 the downhill market is pretty small. There are not many manufacturers. And amateurs can't ride professional's bike. They can have different shocks/linkages, bigger front triangle if the guy is really tall. But riding a make made for you must be better/more comfortable. And more expensive.
And he's not doing any better either. Definitely fun designing your own stuff though
@squiddysquidster802 why aren't his results measurably better if he's finally getting to build bikes "the right way"?
@@fpeter01a lot of high level downhillers are in my area(Park City and Salt Lake City). They don't need money when their parents have it. $15-20k is lost change in the couch to a lot of these folks.
My favourite thing about these videos is the colour grading. It just looks so damn good.
That's why I keep Curtis around!
@@BermPeakExpress seth your trek hardtail, P7 videos do have the similar quality 😊 I guess you are asking for the content just like us from cutis
you can tell especially from the lowers on those fox forks, the orange becomes pink, but everything else looks soo good
Id rather a Gopro Vivid colour or RAW. Over editing just equals no relevance.
@@MrSupermugen RAW doesn't mean natural and almost never looks good. It's just all the dynamic range mashed into a file and you're supposed to bring out the look you want from that, even the natural look.
I think Neko also created a grassroots DH race circuit in the south east USA that has become a feeder series to national & World Cup races that attracts top flight competitors. Guys a legend.
oh yeah. i race it every year. downhill southeast
@@denverlamb3456i race it too and it is so fun
Neko has done so much for the DH scene down here. There's a good episode on Redbull TV that goes into a little detail regarding that
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@@downhillsoutheast hello downhill southeast
Everytime i see a berm peak or berm peak express notification i instantly click on it, keep it up man!
Everytime I have to poop I shit
everyone says they can do something but actually doing it is what separates us. great work Neko!
Every chef's final lesson is to learn that art needs to make money. We're all artists, but if the art can't pay for itself, you're not going to be an artist for long.
I grew up racing BMX against Neko in York, PA in the early 2000’s. We would always go head to head with him usually winning but I stole a state champ one year. He’s been on bikes since he could walk and it’s awesome to see someone from your childhood rip it up on the big stage. Keep it up man!
These videos are so good!! The B-rolls and the music are absolutely perfect. And the calmness in the talking is so easy to listen to! Keep it up Seth.
I love how Neko's seat basically comes up to Seth's armpit 🤣
This is a great format. Loved this interview. Hopefully, this will continue. Good luck to Neko and his enterprise.
Thanks for going outside of the norm, and creating content like this. Was a great watch
I mean, the fact that you can get custom carbon hollow layup molds for $25k is amazing by itself. that stuff used to be big corporate R&D team money
First video I've seen from this channel and loved it. Very concise. Straight to the point. Great colors, clips, and editing. Subbed
Love everything about the Frameworks project, I find Neko super Interesting to listen too and the fact he shares all the ups and downs is awesome! id love to be able to buy one some day !
A friend told me the other day, "the problem with engineers is that they love making the thing and making the thing well. They don't think about how to sell the thing."
Really digging this format, would love to see more interviews like this in the future
Ace video Seth and Neko. So refreshingly open and easy going. Good luck for the project. You deserve good fortune
Love this content! Bring us more of the engineering and design thought process. Not only from custom builders, but big brands too. Take us on tours of factories and warehouses. Thanks!
Sweet looking rides. Btw this channel has become my favorite go to for anything mountain biking. Keep the great videos coming
It's awesome to see Neko doing his own thing and offering so much back to the sport. At 3:23 "my teammate Asa"...Neko took Asa Vermette under his wing and has given one of the coolest most down to earth and extremely talented riders all the opportunities he deserves. I've ridden with Asa and his dad for many years and watching Neko show Asa the ropes has been one of the coolest things I've ever seen. Also super refreshing to see the anti "brand" mentality. Keep doing what you're doing Neko and thank you for giving so much back to a sport we love!!
This was awesome, great video. Neko rules!!
Yeah buddy! Neko is the man, and this was a FANTASTIC interview!
love what Neko has been doing. his frame works series kicks ass. he has always been great with the curious tinkering
This is awesome. I race downhill and got to meet Neko this year, Asa Vermette and his dad this year at snowshoe for DHSE Round 4 who also ride a frameworks. Such down to earth people who just truly love the sport.
Another great video Seth. Neko is the man. I love how experimental he's willing to get.
Maybe Neko should make a steel hardtail 👀
@@cra_55 haha, I think he's far too smart for that. We hardtailers are a special breed. Something's not quite right in our heads.
@@hardtailparty He's getting experiMENTAL.
I love following Neko and this project, he has so much passion for what he is doing. Its what we all say that we would love to do, and he is just doing it! So cool.
Wow finally. I've been waiting this moment that you will review a downhill bike. A big fan from Philippines ❤
I love this direction of your channel and to hear from someone who is really risking it all
Wow!
Let me say this , it’s this channel that brings new ideas & people together and share in the community of MTB. I am astonished and I’m a newbie. To this community.
Same! Newb also and loving what this channel does for the MTB crowd
I'm not at all a newbie and I too love it! I've been following Frameworks and it's fun to see Neko here where more folks can see it.
Finally some good content. Neko is the man. Thanks for getting this together with him
Loved the interview format! Nemo seems like such a humble, cool, guy
Love Neko and what he is doing. The bikes, the bike parks, the races. The future of American downhill will be a direct result of Neko' efforts to make everything better
Two great Men leading the way in there industry!!!! Excited for both of you and to where your paths will take you.
i love his project. glad to see it featured here.
Superb interview, Neko's project is a blast, I would love to see him win riding his own build mtb, that would be awesome.
Seth absolutely nails interviewing. Gotta have more of this type of thing coming up.
It's pretty cool to see you guys feed off of each other! Y'all made our area so much more fun with bike parks. I bet you guys have a freakin blast together!
Neko getting the recognition he deserves! It has been really awesome to watch the Frameworks series!
Congrats on the big 1M!! 🎉
he hit 7 year ago
On the second channel, it's quite new
I was sorta hoping you and Neko would eventually cross paths. Thanks for this insightful lil video!
Awesome collab video. Neko's video series is fantastic too.
Will always remember Neko launching out of the REEB Ranch barn at a Asheville Cyclocross race a few years ago. Great bike rider, great person , and now great builder. Thanks for sharing his story. Whoot!
Nicely done , you should do more interviews like that!
Great video! This reminds me of small bike company in my city called Zoceli,
Steel hand made frames made in Czech. It would be awesome to see their frame on berm peak!
Admire his curiosity. Really enjoyed Kanuga this past May. Thank you for being you, Neko.
So cool you finally got Neko on your channel. A perfect fit!
Awesome episode. So many pros have moved on to start their own bike companies, but I've never seen someone do it the way Neko has. He's truly passionate about his sport. 🤙🏽
Was not expecting this, great video!
Wow this is just astounding. This guy is doing it for all the right reasons. I wish more people were doing things like this. Thanks for shedding a light on this.
Awesome video. Neat to see the evolution and growth.
I love to watch episodes like this. super cool 👍
and love to watch Nico's YT channel. It's so cool to see how he develops his project!
1M... WOW! Congrats 👏
Love these designs, good old four bar - it just works. No marketing, no gimmicks, no instagramers shilling any free product they can get their hands on - this is just pure engineering.
Been keenly following Neko's fascinating bike project
Kudos to Neko for going out of his way to design bikes from a mountain biker's point of view, can't wait for Seth to try that trail bike😊
I love when two great mtb creators collide! Awesome!
This morning I thought berm peak hasn't had a video for more than a week. Well here is one. Keep up the good work Seth!
wow this video is really interesting, it also gives peapole a new perspective to worldcup racing where someone doesn't have a specific brand but does what we wants and what he loves!
I love the simplicity of these frames. Full sus frame designs are always needlessly complicated.
Wish he would sell some
so cool you got interview Neko and get a close look into the frameworks project (or projects) 🤘
The collab I've been dreaming of!
It's such a great project. So good to see it getting broader coverage 👍
Love this kind of stuff. I’m currently building an old blackcomb mongoose to be my BMX looking 8 speed do whatever I want bike. Ironically the rear suspension has the same design.
Great video!
I have followed his channel from the start and love what he is doing. Going outside the box and taking that chance. Would love to be able to get one of his downhill bikes.
great video really enjoying your content would like to see some trail building videos or some more bike hack videos you have got me into mountain biking and i really enjoy it so thanks for making great videos 👍👍👍👍
Something about these videos makes me focus on them the entire time. The colors look so damn good, it looks so crystal clear.
So cool you got your hands on his bikes. I’ve been following Neko
Ive been following Nikkos project for several months and it has been an absolute treat watching his progress with this project. If he ever sells enduro bikes or even downhill bikes ill be the first in line....even though im 60 years old!
Keep up the good work...both of you
Thanks for the content, Seth!
The in-depth vids are amazing.
I took a class in Oregon and learned how to make frames and bought a tig welder and I have been making my own bikes for a couple years. I make full suspension downhill fat bikes. The one I just made, rocks. With 203mm travel front and back and snowshoe 5.05 inch tires
Love what Neko is doing!!
This was a fun and interesting video to watch, even though I don't race downhill bikes (used to race motorcycles though). Thanks for this interview ... best wishes to Neko!
steve
I LOVE THE COLOR JOB ON YOUR VIDEOS! and also the content is great!
These things look sweet keep experimenting Neko!
brilliant content, thank you !!
Awesome Creation!!!!Awesome Video!!!!
Fooo sure found it entertaining, thank you Seth.
More with Neko, please! This just scratched the surface!
I like the idea of you doing mtb podcasts and stories with the pros
THANK YOU, Neko @3:09 !!!
I was at the Snowshoe WC DH this year, and bought some Handup gloves, unaware that they were also one of Neko's sponsors - I also drink Dale's beer too (and yes, I've bought stuff from WC too). Little did I know that I've helped Neko pursue his incredible project. While I doubt I'll ever buy one of his bikes, Its gratifying to support his sponsors so he can keep going.
Great interview with Neko.
Neko is one of the coolest guys I have ever met. I need to be on the lookout for when the limited run of frames for the trail bike become available.
An MTB video with two of my favorite MTB CZcamsrs. Great Day!!
Happy 1mil on berm peak express Seth!🎉
Neko is a wnc legend. When I was new to biking in high school I saw him out on the trail once and I’ve never been more excited
This dude is crazy because like he said he has all those different roles and how he balances that with other things like family Is crazy
Neko is awesome. Also insanely fast. I did an enduro race in 2017 or 2018 at Baileys and he was behind me at the starting gate, i obviously let him go first and by the time i got to the second turn i couldn't even see him anymore. I can only imagine what his actual race pace is like.
Seth, congratulations on 1M subs! Your content is always so entertaining. Congrats man
As a guy with an engineering aptitude (I was a commercial building engineer) it's usually how do we make this better. But also, how can we repair this faster or not repair it as often. Everything breaks. Knowing where they break and why saves a ton of money. Getting to play with materials was never an option for me, but I wish it had been! The empty paper with a design goal in your head and bringing that to reality is so satisfying!
Super cool, I wish more of the fine details were talked about here but it seems I can get that on his channel.
Oh man. I was at windrock when they were testing different springs and links on the DH bike. It's been a long time coming. Super pumped for him.
This reminds me of the early days of Transition Bikes. I bought the Bottlerocket largely because of the geometry. But it was also built of straight tubing. Nothing was hydroformed or shaped just for the sake of looking a certain way. It was built to function. And it came in raw aluminum with ZERO badges or stickers. I put the included transition logo on the bottom of the down tube because I thought it looked good down there. Consequently, most folks didn't ever see it. It looked completely home built and almost everyone that looked at the bike asked who made it. Loved that bike, primarily because of how it rode. But it was also a lot of fun talking to riders at the mountain about it. Good times!
No coincidence that this drops on the same day that Neko posts about interest in a production run of these bikes.
“I wonder if it’s not for performance, but the brand they’re racing for” such a cool question and statement about pushing the boundaries of design.
Great video Seth. Very interesting and entertaining.
WOW - much respect to this man, giving it up to do his own design. And who better to design & build them than a pro racer like himself?! This man will go very far in his ventures...
Neko is the people's champion. I believe he's played a huge role in the east coast of the US in mountain biking and great trail building growing, and even the World Cup being hosted at Snowshoe. From his awesome attitude, speed, and all the work he has done at Wind Rock and Kanuga (I'm sure others) its got a lot of good attention on the sport here.
Can you smell what Neko Mullally is cooking?