I love the trail boss but wish it came with an option to add the 120 v outlets in the bed and passenger area. The towing capacity and the off road wide stance is what I love most about it.
Right? The amount of times I see comments with guys saying they want 6f+ beds on midsize trucks. No wonder trucks are so huge... For the guys wanting bigger beds, get a fullsize. Keep the trucks sizes in their designated categories.
I would love to see a review were someone takes a 4x8 plywood sheet, to see what it looks like with the low wheel wells in the trunk and the new half tilt in the door latch in the back. My only issue with the mid size trucks. but it would be a nice thing to see how they sit before these trucks are released
Was looking at both the z71 and trailboss Colorado and ultimately ended up buying the Z71 as I eventually found a dealer that was willing to work on price. Love the truck
I gave last year's model and love it but I was wanting more modern tech and feel interior was rather cheap this new one has all I can think of besides like the power back window and powered steps. Digging the yellow color that will be the color I choose
Great comparison! It seems I would be a Trail Boss guy as rear seat amenities, leather and gloss black mean a lot less to me than money left in my pockets. The Z71 does have some nice options and equipment that I probably would have liked to been able to pick and choose for the Trail Boss like heated seats and a sunroof but those are not deal breakers if they're not available. I don't have either on my '21 Colorado now, so I wouldn't miss them. But the availability would still be nice without having to jump the $3K USD to have a bunch of stuff the Z71 offers that is superfluous to a Trail Boss buyer. Maybe next year.
like the TB color did you buy some bread from dodley's bakery next door ? I stoped there saw all the trucks in the parking lot and on the highway cant wait to drive one
Got one ready for order and you can NOT order one fully loaded. GM brags about the 360 cameras that you can’t even get. The cameras are part of the technology package and it is not available at this time and nobody knows when it will be for the ZR2 that I ordered. Unfortunately I canceled the order for it. GM needs to be fully honest with the promotions they are doing. I hope that information helps and thanks for the update on this platform
still can not belive they did not go with all led's for both models . also the z71 has less rims as far as the website . my z71 is on the way and the dealership is swapping the tires and putting on the black door handles that also was not on the build when i parted it out. cant wait. going to be like a hybrid of both of them
I really wanted a Trail Boss back in I think 2021/22 but I was too late. GM stopped making them for the 2nd gen.. so I bought a Colorado V6 base model.
Great vid!! Been wanting to see the interior! I have a 2021. Wish I waited for this one! Do you think the plastic on the trucks will eventually dry out and turn grey!??
Definitely looking closely at these. Currently have a full size trail boss but am interested when these come out for better gas mileage but I need to have a truck for my life style.
@@stevelawrie7270 I don’t think you’re gonna see a significant difference in fuel mileage tbh. To have the extra power, space, and towing capability I think your full size will still be a better option.
Get the Trail Boss, that’s what I did for 41,200,,it looks wider than the Z71 and it 2inches taller,,, it just looks better as you can see in this video!
Trailboss should come with a selectable rear locker standard! I’m sure GM will correct this in later upgrades for this generation. Big miss initially on their part
The lack of a Crew Cab Long Box is a Big NO for me. I’ll hold on to my 2018 LT Colorado 4x4 CCLB for a long time and trade eventually for a full size truck and it won’t be GM
The thing with the trailboss is it has the beefed up suspension and wider track like the ZR2. Its a work truck ZR2. Nothing nice, just built to off road. So to get Trailboss with heated seats, or to get a Z71 with the nice stuff witht he wider flares, you need the ZR2.
@@tomm1109 If think the Trailboss (2 inch lift) shares control arms and axles for the wider track, but suspension in the ZR2 sits higher and shocks are moved out in the rear. The Trailboss sits somewhere in between the Z71 (1 inch lift) and ZR2 (3 inch lift). (equal to the Canyon). I am thinking Z71 with 275/65R18 tires, 1.5 inch spacers, and TrailBoss fender flares will be pretty close.
I just don't understand why the z71 has more accessories that would be used off road than the trail boss, when the trail boss is supposed to be the more off road package. I don't get it.
@@ryanwindham2997 the problem is the zR2 doesn't give you everything you want either. If you want max towing capacity, you have to stay with the lower trims. Kinda pisses me off.
GM is allergic to power rear windows. In the midsized truck segment. It would make too much sense. Also, wireless charging in their 2nd generation was designed by a 3 year old as well.
Coming from selling these in the past… we would sell 10-1 short box vs. long box… I suppose that likely showed nationally as well which made their decision to only go with the one configuration. Maybe once they can ramp things up more you may see a longer variation… But not anytime soon, unfortunately
@@GeneralMotorsJeff I’m with ya! Haha I have a 2021 Tacoma and looking make the switch soon. Waiting to see the new Ford Ranger and Tacoma before pulling the trigger.
@@GeneralMotorsJeff yeah I had a ZR2 and Z71 in Maine with short beds, but a 6+ ft bed is so much more practical for everyday people. I'd rather go trail boss 1500 series today.
I like the stance of the Trail Boss, but the Z71 has the nicer interior. Looked at a Trail Boss & the interior is way too basic. Probably going Z71 and adding a 2” lift.
@@GeneralMotorsJeff camping, hunting, fishing stuff. Most people that go outdoors would overfill those beds quickly. Truck beds are getting ridiculously smaller and smaller each generation, but to not even have the option of a 6’ bed with an extended cab and not a crew cab is crazy. But my statement is true if a truck bed can’t fit a real shovel in it it’s small…
@@stephenryan2206 I agree with you about the lack of a long bed being offered. I had a new 96 Sonoma extended cab with the long bed . In 2009. I bought a canyon extended cab with a long bed and they were just right for size. I had noticed over the past year that I would see crew cab Colorado’s with the long box and I thought well this is great, when they come out with the 2023s I will order it that way and now I find out they only offer the 5 foot bed. It’s pretty bad when you have to buy a Ford to get what you want.😢
It would be cool if Chevy would let you option the winch and steel front bumper on the trail boss. Looks like Chevy went cheap no led lights on the trail boss and no push button rear locker. I don’t see a head light switch on the dash board.
Why in the hell would you degrade your upper level models? And why would you not offer a full 6 ft. bed and v6? I have 2022 Z71 v6 crew w/long bed. I am very pleased that I chose my 22 although the 23 had potential, the outer looks don't make up for the degrade of the whole package!
Don't understand some of the decisions. I bet most people would want the Trailboss with z71 interior/features. Shouldn't have to choose between the two. I like the look of the trail boss way more but want leather, etc. interior.
It's the towing capacity with the ZR2 for me. 1700 lbs less than the lower trims is ridiculous to me. I know you lose more because it being more off road capable but gosh.
@@coop4274 Go onto Chevy's website and build&price a 2023, click on the compare all trims. You'll see that only the ZR2 have the 11" driver information center. Or click the interior view of the ZR2, you will notice it has a larger gauge cluster than the Z71/LT/TB/WT. And GMC only has it on the AT4X and Denali, the AT4 and Elevation also have the 8" screen.
@@coop4274 have you looked at Chevy's site? It's right there in the spec that the 11 inch cluster is standard on the ZR2 (and not available on any other trim)
That dash is horrid, I love everything else but that dash might be the worst digital display I have ever seen put in a vehicle. The manual gauges would have looked better than whatever horrid shit that is. That looks like some half baked computer program, or like a monitor from the 80’s that’s used at some nuclear plant.
Now that's the shot of the height and width differences TFL didn't show us. Thanks Jeff
Thanks for watching Steve!
I love the trail boss but wish it came with an option to add the 120 v outlets in the bed and passenger area. The towing capacity and the off road wide stance is what I love most about it.
It’s a beauty for sure!
I would want a trail boss with heated seats, remote start and extra power outlets.
Really informative Jeff, buying my first one this year and this was the best video I’ve seen yet!
When the midsize turns into a full-size $40,000+ truck.
I paid less than $36k for my Silverado 1500 LTZ crew cab 4x new in ‘15. Goes for $60k+ at 6.5% today. I want a new one, but not at current prices.
@@oldproracing9360 What sad is people buy a vehicle that cost more than their mortgage.
Right? The amount of times I see comments with guys saying they want 6f+ beds on midsize trucks. No wonder trucks are so huge...
For the guys wanting bigger beds, get a fullsize. Keep the trucks sizes in their designated categories.
I would love to see a review were someone takes a 4x8 plywood sheet, to see what it looks like with the low wheel wells in the trunk and the new half tilt in the door latch in the back. My only issue with the mid size trucks. but it would be a nice thing to see how they sit before these trucks are released
Was looking at both the z71 and trailboss Colorado and ultimately ended up buying the Z71 as I eventually found a dealer that was willing to work on price. Love the truck
How much did you end up paying for the Z71? Thanks!
How much will the zr2 be with dealer markups? I haven’t noticed any in transit to dealerships in my area.
I gave last year's model and love it but I was wanting more modern tech and feel interior was rather cheap this new one has all I can think of besides like the power back window and powered steps.
Digging the yellow color that will be the color I choose
Great comparison! It seems I would be a Trail Boss guy as rear seat amenities, leather and gloss black mean a lot less to me than money left in my pockets. The Z71 does have some nice options and equipment that I probably would have liked to been able to pick and choose for the Trail Boss like heated seats and a sunroof but those are not deal breakers if they're not available. I don't have either on my '21 Colorado now, so I wouldn't miss them. But the availability would still be nice without having to jump the $3K USD to have a bunch of stuff the Z71 offers that is superfluous to a Trail Boss buyer. Maybe next year.
The nice part is.. between the trims WT, TrailBoss, LT, Z71, ZR2 and ZR2 Desert Boss… the almost have a trim for anyone and everyone!
Would love to know about the options for towing as it relates to shocks and transmission.
like the TB color did you buy some bread from dodley's bakery next door ? I stoped there saw all the trucks in the parking lot and on the highway cant wait to drive one
Got one ready for order and you can NOT order one fully loaded. GM brags about the 360 cameras that you can’t even get. The cameras are part of the technology package and it is not available at this time and nobody knows when it will be for the ZR2 that I ordered. Unfortunately I canceled the order for it. GM needs to be fully honest with the promotions they are doing. I hope that information helps and thanks for the update on this platform
still can not belive they did not go with all led's for both models . also the z71 has less rims as far as the website . my z71 is on the way and the dealership is swapping the tires and putting on the black door handles that also was not on the build when i parted it out. cant wait. going to be like a hybrid of both of them
Bought a trail boss over a month ago from a dealer that said it's "in transit". It's still in transit. Any word on how long this usually takes?
Is it possible to put the rims that are on the trailboss on the z71? I think the z71 would look nice with those wheels.
I really wanted a Trail Boss back in I think 2021/22 but I was too late. GM stopped making them for the 2nd gen.. so I bought a Colorado V6 base model.
Still a nice truck Herb!
I wanted to see the various settings available on the 8 inch gauge cluster.
Will you also be getting your hands on the Canyon too for review?
What trails did you hit while you were up in Julian?
Best looking mid size truck out there
Ok so every image I see if the z71 shows no black molding around the wheel openings. How is this z71 in the video spec'd to have them?
It’s a $100 option on build and price. Probably a dealer add.
Great vid!! Been wanting to see the interior!
I have a 2021. Wish I waited for this one! Do you think the plastic on the trucks will eventually dry out and turn grey!??
It doesn't, but if you're worried about it then use a UV vinyl protector every time you deep clean the interior.
You beat me to my reponse, Herb. Lol
The truck will die before that happens.
Did you get a chance to test out the Bose sound system? Curious to see how it performs against their standard system, great video!
Can’t comment on that, yet .
Maybe down the road they will offer the Z71 with the Trail Boss pkg. The ZR2 is the best value for what you get if you don't need max towing.
They already do. GMC Canyon AT4 is basically z71 with lift and wide body.
Great video, nice job!
Thanks Brian! 😀👍🏼
I'm looking forward to getting a ZR2 in red, can't wait to see these in the flesh!
Oooohhh that will look nice for sure
@@GeneralMotorsJeff Was hoping for a "KTM orange" to match my 890 ADV R (similar to the Jeep orange or even the new Bronco orange), but noooo....
Def digging that trail boss.
Definitely looking closely at these. Currently have a full size trail boss but am interested when these come out for better gas mileage but I need to have a truck for my life style.
What do you use it for that you think these may not be able to do? Just curious. 7,700 lbs towing on these! 😀👍🏼
@@GeneralMotorsJeff They will do the job, just want to compare the gas mileage of these between my full size. Leaning towards the Z71 or ZR2
@@stevelawrie7270 I don’t think you’re gonna see a significant difference in fuel mileage tbh. To have the extra power, space, and towing capability I think your full size will still be a better option.
@@ryanwindham2997 thanks for the comment
Get the Trail Boss, that’s what I did for 41,200,,it looks wider than the Z71 and it 2inches taller,,, it just looks better as you can see in this video!
Hey Jeff, great video.
Thanks so much for the kind words, and watching 😀😀
Hey Jeff... is the ZR2 Silverado meteor a truck that is coming to production? And I was wondering if you can do a video on it if so.
Unfortunately nothing I know enough about to comment on at this point
@@GeneralMotorsJeff okay thanks
Id love to see more of the rear seat area. Specifically if the seats lay down or flip up for storage.
Love the Trail Boss width, the tires and rims combination look great!
What size rims and tires are those?
275/65 R18 or 32ish on 18rim. With the 2inch lift on the trail boss you could probably go to 35 tires
Do you think you can get a regular sized quad bike in box with tailgate down
Yes
yeah the ones that my local dealers have... are all above 44k i dont want have the stuff they have in them.
Trailboss should come with a selectable rear locker standard! I’m sure GM will correct this in later upgrades for this generation. Big miss initially on their part
They charge extra for that.
G80 is fine.
Do you know what max tire size is for the Trail Boss?
I do not… but I will try to find out!
The lack of a Crew Cab Long Box is a Big NO for me. I’ll hold on to my 2018 LT Colorado 4x4 CCLB for a long time and trade eventually for a full size truck and it won’t be GM
Great job by GM but the Trail Boss needs Two trims, the base, and an LT with amenities, like its big brother....
I love the truck but I won't buy unless it comes with a 6 foot box some day.
What is the difference between the trail boss and the desert boss
The Trailboss looks awesome. How hard would it be to recreate the height and wider track on a Z71?
The thing with the trailboss is it has the beefed up suspension and wider track like the ZR2. Its a work truck ZR2. Nothing nice, just built to off road. So to get Trailboss with heated seats, or to get a Z71 with the nice stuff witht he wider flares, you need the ZR2.
@@tomm1109 If think the Trailboss (2 inch lift) shares control arms and axles for the wider track, but suspension in the ZR2 sits higher and shocks are moved out in the rear. The Trailboss sits somewhere in between the Z71 (1 inch lift) and ZR2 (3 inch lift). (equal to the Canyon). I am thinking Z71 with 275/65R18 tires, 1.5 inch spacers, and TrailBoss fender flares will be pretty close.
There is hardly any leg room in the back cab. Only a little oerson could set comfortably in the back seats.
Could you tell if the transmission issues were corrected.
Yes, they are
@@GeneralMotorsJeff Good to hear. Thanks.
I priced the Trail boss and it's 53K canadian. That expensive for a truck with halogen headlight's
Starting price**
Swapping out the headlights is cheap and easy. Not exactly a factor
Wasn't there a desert boss mentioned in the commercial reveal?
That’s a ZR2 package.
But why is the fuel economy so bad? These are smaller trucks with smaller turbos. They should be getting better mileage
There is a huge difference on trail boss and the Z71
I just don't understand why the z71 has more accessories that would be used off road than the trail boss, when the trail boss is supposed to be the more off road package. I don't get it.
Because they want you to ultimately purchase the zr2 to get everything you want. 😂
😂🤦🏼♂️
@@ryanwindham2997 the problem is the zR2 doesn't give you everything you want either. If you want max towing capacity, you have to stay with the lower trims. Kinda pisses me off.
Once again, these products prove GMs talent is in their exterior and interior designers.
What do you mean by that exactly?
They are practically twins that makes no sense only the grill is noticeably different
GM is allergic to power rear windows. In the midsized truck segment. It would make too much sense. Also, wireless charging in their 2nd generation was designed by a 3 year old as well.
But the price is much higher on zr2. But we'll worth it
Blind spot indicator is not standard on the Trail Boss.
Hard to wrap my arms around 5 ft beds in Tacoma Colorado Gladiator. Really limits all around use to just toy trucks. Otherwise nice truck.
Tacoma has an optional 6 foot bed.
Coming from selling these in the past… we would sell 10-1 short box vs. long box… I suppose that likely showed nationally as well which made their decision to only go with the one configuration. Maybe once they can ramp things up more you may see a longer variation… But not anytime soon, unfortunately
Yeah, but it’s a Tacoma… so .. 🤷🏼♂️😂 lol, jk
@@GeneralMotorsJeff I’m with ya! Haha I have a 2021 Tacoma and looking make the switch soon. Waiting to see the new Ford Ranger and Tacoma before pulling the trigger.
@@GeneralMotorsJeff yeah I had a ZR2 and Z71 in Maine with short beds, but a 6+ ft bed is so much more practical for everyday people. I'd rather go trail boss 1500 series today.
Do a video Canyon vs Colorado
I like the stance of the Trail Boss, but the Z71 has the nicer interior. Looked at a Trail Boss & the interior is way too basic. Probably going Z71 and adding a 2” lift.
Be awesome if they let you get a larger bed. Those beds can’t even fit a shovel
They are actually pretty capable. What are you putting in the back of yours? Just curious, not being sarcastic
@@GeneralMotorsJeff camping, hunting, fishing stuff. Most people that go outdoors would overfill those beds quickly. Truck beds are getting ridiculously smaller and smaller each generation, but to not even have the option of a 6’ bed with an extended cab and not a crew cab is crazy. But my statement is true if a truck bed can’t fit a real shovel in it it’s small…
@@stephenryan2206 I agree with you about the lack of a long bed being offered. I had a new 96 Sonoma extended cab with the long bed . In 2009. I bought a canyon extended cab with a long bed and they were just right for size. I had noticed over the past year that I would see crew cab Colorado’s with the long box and I thought well this is great, when they come out with the 2023s I will order it that way and now I find out they only offer the 5 foot bed. It’s pretty bad when you have to buy a Ford to get what you want.😢
just buy the gmc canyon ya automatically get 2 inch lift on all levels and 310hp n 430 trq on all trim levels
mate the two together and combine the nice features...
GMC Canyon AT4
Why is there no test drive video?
In a few days
Scorpion and Subzero's truck
It would be cool if Chevy would let you option the winch and steel front bumper on the trail boss. Looks like Chevy went cheap no led lights on the trail boss and no push button rear locker. I don’t see a head light switch on the dash board.
There is no headlight switch because you control it from the screen…. Videos of that coming
Why in the hell would you degrade your upper level models? And why would you not offer a full 6 ft. bed and v6? I have 2022 Z71 v6 crew w/long bed. I am very pleased that I chose my 22 although the 23 had potential, the outer looks don't make up for the degrade of the whole package!
Don't understand some of the decisions. I bet most people would want the Trailboss with z71 interior/features. Shouldn't have to choose between the two. I like the look of the trail boss way more but want leather, etc. interior.
💢💯💢
Thxs for adding canadian $$ go figures more expensive 🙄
Where is the zr2 😭😭 that's the only one I'm interested in 😂
Check my older videos.. I’ve done a few on it
They aren't making those until April
Trail boss stance is so much better! Too bad the headlights suck and the interior is wt. might have to go at4
At4 is the same price as a zr2.
Why not go ZR2 then?
@@GeneralMotorsJeff exactly!
It's the towing capacity with the ZR2 for me. 1700 lbs less than the lower trims is ridiculous to me. I know you lose more because it being more off road capable but gosh.
No sound ??
Huh?
@@GeneralMotorsJeff when you post the video this morning it have no sound .. now its ok thanks
The difference is zr2. Which I have. Far more capable
A 6000 MAX towing capacity with the 2.7T. That's a 1000 lb loss from the 22 3.6 DOHC V6.
And 310 hp is suspect at best.
I think I can answer this, give me a minute. Okay, one truck is big and one truck is small 🤓
You didn't say anything about the engine....... why
Great truck, generally a great new offering by Chevy.. but that dash is fucking terrible.
You’re mistaken about the cluster. Chevy doesn’t offer an 11” cluster in any trim Colorado. If you want that you need to look at the gmc canyon hth.
I am not mistaken. The ZR2 comes with an 11” drivers information cluster.
@@GeneralMotorsJeff no it doesn’t. All models come with the 11” radio screen but the cluster is only 8”. The gmc has the 11” but not the Chevy.
@@coop4274 you might want to double check your facts 😂
@@coop4274 Go onto Chevy's website and build&price a 2023, click on the compare all trims. You'll see that only the ZR2 have the 11" driver information center. Or click the interior view of the ZR2, you will notice it has a larger gauge cluster than the Z71/LT/TB/WT.
And GMC only has it on the AT4X and Denali, the AT4 and Elevation also have the 8" screen.
@@coop4274 have you looked at Chevy's site? It's right there in the spec that the 11 inch cluster is standard on the ZR2 (and not available on any other trim)
That dash is horrid, I love everything else but that dash might be the worst digital display I have ever seen put in a vehicle. The manual gauges would have looked better than whatever horrid shit that is. That looks like some half baked computer program, or like a monitor from the 80’s that’s used at some nuclear plant.
You never spoke about the 2.7T. I will remove you
Ha I’d take the Z71 over the boss. Way nicer for only a few thousand more.
These car companies charging way too much for shit cars~
For how much that trail boss cost it looks really cheap on the interior it's sad
It has a lot of features/capability for the price actually. Want more features in an off-roader, get the ZR2
I was going to like your video, but then I saw your bag in the back. Unacceptable
Where is the EV? These are Gas Guzzlers and they can sell them to the public?
Huh?
You don’t need an iPhone 14 PM
Both are junk unless there's a manual transmission in them.
Dang too high
Too high for what?
No